What is the deal with some roms offering HTC modded kernal or an alternate? What benefit does HTC modded have if any? Ive also seen it called xda compliant? Just trying to understand the difference. Please be gentle with the sarcasm and flames...
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better memory efficiency, added features, better battery life/performance.
Thanks
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its the kernel from what many believe to be the official htc tbolt GB release that is in testing.
Problem is that the kernel is causing alot of reboots in ROMs that are using it.
By calling it XDA compliant, they probably mean GPL compliant, meaning the developer is compliant with the terms and conditions of the GPL. That means making the source freely available upon request. Also, XDA requires credit be given to contributors and the source of the code the developer started with.
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dl.zerocool said:
Hi there a good news for responsiveness.
A patch of 200 lines have been checked and approved by Linus, improving greatly responsiveness maybe it should be interesting to test it on our phones.
News and links available here.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1
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Found this one the nexus one forum though some people might want to have a look.
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I saw cyanogen had tweeted this earlier. good idea.
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I compiled my own kernel with those patches (partially) applied to the HTC default 2.6.32 kernel. At least the kernel still works but I am not sure how to prove an increasing responsiveness in numbers....
If you want to test it I have now build a CFS version with this patch
vorkKernel
Still not good as bfs
Hello I am here to give the email address of HTCs main developer for the thunderbolt. He is in charge of source code for kernel. Be polite when requesting it.
[email protected]
Credit to TeamAndIRC for releasing email address. I'm a messenger
Martin,
I am writing you in regards to the yet unreleased kernel source for the HTC Thunderbolt. I have emailed HTC's primary support address multiple times, and have received no satisfactory responses, other than the standard response of 90-120 days.
I understand that Android is mostly released under the Apache license, but we all know that the linux kernel still falls under the GPL license. The GPL license has no conditions in it allowing for a grace period to release the source code. This means that HTC has been in violation of the GPL license for the past week, as the kernel source code still remains unreleased.
There is a large enthusiast community behind the Thunderbolt, and it would be in HTC's best interest to comply with open source agreements.
If you could please facilitate the release of the kernel source code, it would be appreciated, and further complications from the open source community can easily be avoided.
Thank you,
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Great email. Let's keep it civil.
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Please post the responses you get from htc.
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Please do this. We need this as a community
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Comes off a little threatening to me but hope it helps get the source release
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Everyone should send an email. We need to get a kernel developer to email.
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Honestly, I truly wish I had the resources to truly threaten them with legal action. Companies should be taught that just because they're large companies, doesn't mean they have the right to abuse this kind of stuff like they do.
I know TeamAndIRC is trying to get someone who is a lawyer involved
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Just hold a gun to their head or send this email....not sure which is worse
Give them time and be patient...then always release the source code...usually a month or two after release...its how they work.
magneticzero said:
Give them time and be patient...then always release the source code...usually a month or two after release...its how they work.
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right, and lets let criminals steal because eventually they will stop.
Just because eventually they do the right thing, doesn't mean they shouldn't be punished.
what i dont get is how they are going to release the kernel source for the Incredible S, which has yet to be released, and not for current phones.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-releases-kernel-source-incredible-s-mytouch-3g-slide-wildfire
They won't release ours bc we got root already. There going to try and push and update to lock us in again
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papi92 said:
They won't release ours bc we got root already. There going to try and push and update to lock us in again
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This. Verizon's probably got a hand in trying to delay the source code as well.
Its new...get over it really. They will release it when they are ready.
Kernel source is suppose to be released the day of the device being released. Or before the release date. It's a legal term of using linux or any gpl code.
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But have they always followed this? And do they get in trouble? Nope. Wait it out...you guys make me laugh irl.
magneticzero said:
But have they always followed this? And do they get in trouble? Nope. Wait it out...you guys make me laugh irl.
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So it's wrong, but they do it all the time, so we should just ignore it? Really dude? I love your attitude.
This is why companies get away with so much BS, illegal stuff, unorthodox stuff... because so many people in the general public have your attitude.
GrdLock said:
So it's wrong, but they do it all the time, so we should just ignore it? Really dude? I love your attitude.
This is why companies get away with so much BS, illegal stuff, unorthodox stuff... because so many people in the general public have your attitude.
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Nah...i just like seeing people whine....you will get it when its ready.
So apparently faux's recognized developers status has been taken from him. Anybody no why, he seemed like a legit dev to me? In fact I know he was, any insight to tease my curiosity would be appreciated.
His bad ass rom and kernels had to many people leaving CM.
Actually I have no idea. But it wouldn't surprise me. XDA kinda suckles at the teet of CM. I'm sure some CM dev cried up a storm because faux did things better and xda folded and stripped him.
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Im with calamus. Or maybe something he did on one of his projects he wasnt 100% truthful. I have no idea. Im cyanogen for life but I love fauxs kernels.
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I dont think its just Faux...correct me if Im wrong but I think other devs have lost their status just look through the development section, the majority of them have been ripped
What the hell! I would like to know also. I do love CM but faux is fantastic
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what about the dev teampockerface?! LOL <3
brianphanz0r said:
what about the dev teampockerface?! LOL <3
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Hahaha that actually made me lol -_-
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This can't be true.... ?
I believe faux is qualified, ive seen others devs who have done less with the status, making me think something else is wrong. Maybe he needs to be a dev longer for the status.
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His status is under review as a result of an incident on the forums, which he is aware of and co-operating regarding.
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faux123 said:
Quick Announcement:
CyanogenMod Team has added Apache License 2.0 to many of their files which I have borrowed and modified for my Nexus ROM, so they have kindly asked those who used their code to display their license notices.
I have modified and incorporated their updates to Settings.apk to display all the CyanogenMod licenses in order to comply and give credit to CyanogenMod team's effort and contribution.
Here's a screenshot of the updates.. This is still work in progress (for version 1.2.7 and beyond), once CyanogenMod has completed their license updates to their own releases, my ROM will also display all the appropriate licenses.
BTW, I am taking a break from android for a while, I am going to pick up my guitar lesson again. Android has taken up quite a bit of my free time and I want to get back to my practice (I really suck at playing guitar, but I still want to learn it).
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Here just in case people missed it. Now lets let him enjoy his vacation. He haas given so much to us, he deserves some peace
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This is from his Twitter Account.
lol android is def an addiction that is tough to overcome..
wow perhaps we all should start up a new AA group (ANDROID's Anonymous) but take it easy Faux, enjoy your break man. hope you start shreddin like Slash lol
I don't even have programming knowledge and I can't put my freaking phone down. I can't even imagine how bad it must be for someone with "mad skillz" like faux.
We do hope to see you back soon though faux. And thank you for your fantastic kernels and roms.
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Many people was talking about it and i jsut read this post about kernal source got released to the att htc one x
I really don't mean to be rude, but you honestly just spent more effort making that post than googling it.
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Best I ca describe and someone correct me if I am wrong.
It holds a lot of the hardware specific code. Without it we are unable to look at problems that may be specific to our device. It is at the heart of every os.
From what I have learned ... its like a bridge between software and the hardware ..
Read the first post of this thread ... faux123 is one of the best kernel developer I have ever known ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647993
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I'm mostly answering this to move towards getting the restrictions off my new account but the kernel source is essentially an oldish set of code that just got released which like has been said ferries info between the hardware and software. This code can be altered to create custom kernels that introduce new overclock speeds gpu overclocks under volting and a variety of other tweaks/enhancements.
Think of it as hardware drivers on your computer. A lot of the hardware cannot be fully utilized or is really buggy if the software does not recognize all the hardware.
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pantmunu said:
From what I have learned ... its like a bridge between software and the hardware ..
Read the first post of this thread ... faux123 is one of the best kernel developer I have ever known ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647993
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ethantarheels123 said:
Think of it as hardware drivers on your computer. A lot of the hardware cannot be fully utilized or is really buggy if the software does not recognize all the hardware.
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Yeah, think of a kernel as a bridge. You click something on the screen (hardware) and the kernel tells your software the screen was tapped. You press the power button and the kernel tells your phone to shut off the screen. The source code is basically the instructions or the "recipe" of how HTC made the kernel. It's useful because developers can tinker easier and add more customisations into the kernel.
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I'm wondering if there is some type of reference that simplifies all the things that these kernel devs talk about.
Like all the OC/UV ZRAM etc. like what is all of this.
I know I need to learn this stuff cause this phone should not have me waiting to switch apps or for the screen to rotate. I don't want memories of my HD2.
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Go into Android Development and look for Elemental kernel. The dev did a great job of explaining each aspect of a kernel. Most of your questions and then some will be answered. First page of his thread is the location of the info.
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Thanks for the tip but I can't help but assume that the details the dev Included were kinda geared toward people who have more knowledge about this than I do
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ceo4eva said:
Thanks for the tip but I can't help but assume that the details the dev Included were kinda geared toward people who have more knowledge about this than I do
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You need to keep in mind that many of the things you're requesting to learn are all very much general. It becomes subjective when you start building your phones settings with the kernel of your choice. Sometimes a souped up kernel isn't the answer. Sometimes changing settings backfires with poorer performance and worse battery life. You need to experiment as not all phones (even though we have One Xs) aren't built 100% equally.
I truly recommend flashing one and starting out slow. When you change things, remember what the default values are and increment minimally. Overclocking is great but beware it can be unstable, just like underclocking. Also, the same goes for voltage. I personally leave it default. Always have. On Viper3.1 and Elemental kernel (currently 2.1), I've had massive success with battery life. Not all roms are the same though.
Again, I would search around more, get more opinions but realistically, just try for yourself. Don't get too extreme with settings and you WILL be fine.
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