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Hi there,
Someone knows how to localize the TouchPal keyboard?
Regards,
Taguapire.
But why even bother with that?
You can use this keyboard from www.fingertouchpro.com that is much better and supports English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian or even Greek, and you can also define your own languages.
I think it's clear what you should use
www.cootek.com
You can find all the information you need about this great keyboard....
I think if I read one more post pushing fingertouchpro this morning, I am going to puke.
callmemoe said:
I think if I read one more post pushing fingertouchpro this morning, I am going to puke.
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I agree. Anyway, regardless of it's functionality I wouldn't use it because it looks disgusting. So they can post as much as they like, they won't sway me!
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I agree. Anyway, regardless of it's functionality I wouldn't use it because it looks disgusting. So they can post as much as they like, they won't sway me!
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Mate, you don't need any software on your device - a nice looking artwork set as background would be more then you need. So judging the looks is not enough for let's say (the least) - a competent opinion.
Ad-posts are not good - but everybody does them. Why? Because marketing is part of everyday life. Even the tea you drink is because of some marketing campaign.
So your preferences in matter of keyboards are questionable. They are just a measure of the advertising you've consumed.
Bottom line, use FTPRO, is better
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Mate, you don't need any software on your device - a nice looking artwork set as background would be more then you need. So judging the looks is not enough for let's say (the least) - a competent opinion.
Ad-posts are not good - but everybody does them. Why? Because marketing is part of everyday life. Even the tea you drink is because of some marketing campaign.
So your preferences in matter of keyboards are questionable. They are just a measure of the advertising you've consumed.
Bottom line, use FTPRO, is better
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And I just puked.
xda-addict said:
Mate, you don't need any software on your device - a nice looking artwork set as background would be more then you need. So judging the looks is not enough for let's say (the least) - a competent opinion.
Ad-posts are not good - but everybody does them. Why? Because marketing is part of everyday life. Even the tea you drink is because of some marketing campaign.
So your preferences in matter of keyboards are questionable. They are just a measure of the advertising you've consumed.
Bottom line, use FTPRO, is better
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1. TouchPal was not brought to my attention through any kind of advertising.
2. I chose to use TouchPal after trying many, many different SIPs as I found it fitted my needs the best
3. I don't drink tea
Oh and...if I'm persuaded by the type of advertising I see, then I would never touch the one you're pushing on people...
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1. TouchPal was not brought to my attention through any kind of advertising.
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I doubt this is true. It's not like you've seen a shop next to your house, selling touchpal. You've seen it somewhere, and that's advertising. Actually looking arround this forum I see it everywhere
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2. I chose to use TouchPal after trying many, many different SIPs as I found it fitted my needs the best
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Unfortunatelly it seems some of your choices where excluded randomly or on skin criteria. BTW, I need to inform you at this point that the skins are usually something that you can change.
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3. I don't drink tea
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Oh that's not a problem, I'm sure you got the idea.
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Oh and...if I'm persuaded by the type of advertising I see, then I would never touch the one you're pushing on people...
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This might be true, but usually to change this only takes more effort, to that point where even your friends tell you what you need to use.
This is getting to a philosophical level, so I'll stop now
Please do! Jees, I'm not usually one to get in an argument but you don't half force your product on people. I'm completely entitled to my opinion, and I don't want to use your keyboard..what's the problem?
Anyway, all I can say is you've guaranteed yourself one less customer, so congratulations
Hi. I'm tired of the Windows Mobile interface and am wanting to flash the ROM on my Kaiser. I've heard that there are some ROMs that will give my Kaiser more of the iPhone type of interface (including coverflow and all that jazz). How do I know which ROM to choose? Are there some ROMs that are more popular than others and so deemed better? How do I know how stable the different ROMs are? I'm looking for one that will need as few post flash fixes as possible. How will I know what the interface will even look like on my phone (so I can choose the ROM)? Thanks for any help and my apologies if this is the wrong forum on which to post.
Thanks,
thracker
Welcome
Look @ the threads look @ the images
No one can tell you what ROM you will like as it's personal preference, flash untill you find the ROM you like?
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Hi. I'm tired of the Windows Mobile interface and am wanting to flash the ROM on my Kaiser. I've heard that there are some ROMs that will give my Kaiser more of the iPhone type of interface (including coverflow and all that jazz).
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iphone sucks
How do I know which ROM to choose? Are there some ROMs that are more popular than others and so deemed better?
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its a personal choice completely. all the chefs are doing an amazing job...
How do I know how stable the different ROMs are? I'm looking for one that will need as few post flash fixes as possible.
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usually i have seen that all of the new roms are pretty stable (except for some very minor bugs) so i think that should not be a big problem
How will I know what the interface will even look like on my phone (so I can choose the ROM)?
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usually all the rom threads will have their screenshots but the best way is to try them
Thanks for any help and my apologies if this is the wrong forum on which to post.
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not a problem.. instead of blaming... i will leave it to the mod...
still i will say start flashing and i can promise you my friend you can never get out of that addiction
choose what you think is best not let others select something for you
WM phones are more fun that iphones in my opinion! Being said that, there are lots of iphone looks alikes! Search using the link my sign and you will be amazed!
thracker said:
Hi. I'm tired of the Windows Mobile interface and am wanting to flash the ROM on my Kaiser. I've heard that there are some ROMs that will give my Kaiser more of the iPhone type of interface (including coverflow and all that jazz). How do I know which ROM to choose? Are there some ROMs that are more popular than others and so deemed better? How do I know how stable the different ROMs are? I'm looking for one that will need as few post flash fixes as possible. How will I know what the interface will even look like on my phone (so I can choose the ROM)? Thanks for any help and my apologies if this is the wrong forum on which to post.
Thanks,
thracker
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maybe you should just buy an iphone
LMAO, that's something I would've said
djquick said:
LMAO, that's something I would've said
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Dude, It is two o'clock in the morning, don't you have something to do today?
I just got home from the club when I posted that (hence my name)...lol
Have a look and see what looks best for you. There are also plenty of apps in the D&H forum for an iPhone looks and feelings.
Please search and read before starting a new thread.
Closed, not related to ROM development.
Dave
Just curious: which Manila Mod do you like the most: Cookie's or MaxManila? It would be very nice if you give/describe your arguments for your choice. Thanks in advance.
regards, Kuzibri
I doubt many people will want to vote on this as a +ive vote for one seems like a -ive vote for the other, and they're both amazing mods.
I bet if you put an extra option of "I love them both" on there then you'd have loads of votes.
Besides, no-one on here has heard of NaxManila lol
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Just curious: which Manila Mod do you like the most: Cookie's or NaxManila?
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I doubt many people will want to vote on this as a +ive vote for one seems like a -ive vote for the other, and they're both amazing mods.
I bet if you put an extra option of "I love them both" on there then you'd have loads of votes.
Besides, no-one on here has heard of NaxManila lol
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you're very alert!!!
I'm mostly interested which one of the two is the most popular/practical/userfriendely, etc. Making a choice for either one does not mean a negative opinion/vote for the other one IMHO.
I'm willing to add the third option to the poll only don't know how to do/achieve that??
I don't think you can alter polls once you've made them, which makes sense really. Imagine doing a poll that says "which do you prefer" with the options "wm6.1" and "wm6.5" and you then add "iPhone" a month later lol. That would be funny actually
I've voted anyway. I like them both but have a preferred choice.
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I don't think you can alter polls once you've made them, which makes sense really. Imagine doing a poll that says "which do you prefer" with the options "wm6.1" and "wm6.5" and you then add "iPhone" a month later lol. That would be funny actually
I've voted anyway. I like them both but have a preferred choice.
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On second thought I do not think adding a third option (like them both) is necessary, because the mods cannnot coexist together on one device. So one has to make a choice between either Cookie or MaxManila.
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On second thought I do not think adding a third option (like them both) is necessary, because the mods cannnot coexist together on one device. So one has to make a choice between either Cookie or MaxManila.
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Which is why I made my point that lots of people won't want to vote. Just my thoughts mate. Good luck with your poll.
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Which is why I made my point that lots of people won't want to vote. Just my thoughts mate. Good luck with your poll.
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Thanks John, I really do not mind whether many people will vote or not, or even comment on their choice. I also do like both mods but, just like you, I have my preference. Just curious how the odds are between these two amazing mods!
IMO the voting goes pretty well, though I would like to have/see some more arguments/comments regarding the choice one has made. I know that both mods are amazing but people must have made a choice based on arguments pro/con cause the mods cannot coexist on the same device. This poll is not meant to judge either of the mods (and also not to offend the developers of these wonderful mods), but just based on my personal curiosity why people choose either Cookie or MaxManila for their device. No hidden reasons/agenda or whatever.
regards, Kuzibri
Vote one for MaxManila!
I thought I would add a few supporting points as to why I prefer MaxManila.
Cookies is great, there is no denying that and ultimately, IMHO the best option would be to have them compatible with each other. If MM and Cookies could coexist I would be in a happy la la land of joy!
As it stand though, I had to make a choice. My reasoning was that, when it came down to it, Cookies really only offered me lots and lots of pages icons. I don't really need this. It was annoying on the iPhone as it was, it is also much the same as how the start menu is now, just side-by-side and a little more flexible in customisation.
MaxManila offered more than that. It offered a combination of features I would otherwise have installed individually; background for all tabs (including panoramic), increase number of quicklinks, transparent slider, customisable history and calendar bars, among other things.
The one thing that probably sold it for me was the clock options. I prefer the digital/analog side-by-side clock look to the original Sense UI. With eight layout options and many alternative clock appearances there is something for everyone.
Overall MaxManila is easy, flexible and attractive... oh, and have you seen what's to come next? See here ... I can't wait!
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I thought I would add a few supporting points as to why I prefer MaxManila.
Cookies is great, there is no denying that and ultimately, IMHO the best option would be to have them compatible with each other. If MM and Cookies could coexist I would be in a happy la la land of joy!
As it stand though, I had to make a choice. My reasoning was that, when it came down to it, Cookies really only offered me lots and lots of pages icons. I don't really need this. It was annoying on the iPhone as it was, it is also much the same as how the start menu is now, just side-by-side and a little more flexible in customisation.
MaxManila offered more than that. It offered a combination of features I would otherwise have installed individually; background for all tabs (including panoramic), increase number of quicklinks, transparent slider, customisable history and calendar bars, among other things.
The one thing that probably sold it for me was the clock options. I prefer the digital/analog side-by-side clock look to the original Sense UI. With eight layout options and many alternative clock appearances there is something for everyone.
Overall MaxManila is easy, flexible and attractive... oh, and have you seen what's to come next? See here ... I can't wait!
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Franwella, thanks for your answer and arguments of choice. I also prefer MaxManila for almost the same reasons as you mention,plus the fact that it gives you the opportinuty to keep your homescreen as clean as possible. I know what is coming and it looks very promising. Awaiting the ETA.
regards, Kuzibri
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I also prefer MaxManila
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I was quite interested to see that there is such a difference in the numbers between MM and Cookie users. I initially thought the results would be fairly balanced.
Obviously the poll is still only covering a very small group, but it makes me wonder what the reason for the imbalance is. Is it just that people aren't as familiar with MM? Are people looking for the iPhone like icon overload?
Hmmmm, it will be interesting to follow this thread and see how the stats develop.
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I was quite interested to see that there is such a difference in the numbers between MM and Cookie users. I initially thought the results would be fairly balanced.
Obviously the poll is still only covering a very small group, but it makes me wonder what the reason for the imbalance is. Is it just that people aren't as familiar with MM? Are people looking for the iPhone like icon overload?
Hmmmm, it will be interesting to follow this thread and see how the stats develop.
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I'm also a surprised in the difference between the two. Thanks for doing followup.
regards, Kuzibri
to be honest they both hav there on thing going which is cool...
but cookie is a solid mod app, max is a mod app that u can mod even more urself, so there is no one is better then the other , but me personaly i use max
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to be honest they both hav there on thing going which is cool...
but cookie is a solid mod app, max is a mod app that u can mod even more urself, so there is no one is better then the other , but me personaly i use max
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Thank you very much for your reply and argumentation of your choice! The goal of the poll is just to know which of the two mods people are using and, if possible, why. It's not meant to be a better/worse poll.
regards, Kuzibri
Hmmm
I wonder if this poll will actually inform some people of MaxManila's existence? and will any one change from one to the other?
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I wonder if this poll will actually inform some people of MaxManila's existence? and will any one change from one to the other?
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Let's hope so, cause the difference is way too big now.
Sounds like a bias there to me
You're assuming that people have just take Co0kie's and don't know about MaxManila because of the poll results. That's a really unfair thing to say, and it sounds like you're assuming that the majority would want the one that you have.
I'm not getting into an argument about it, so I won't take this any further, but it does sound like you're trying to prove your own decision correct, rather than find out what people are actually using. That's all the poll tells us - nothing more.
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Sounds like a bias there to me
You're assuming that people have just take Co0kie's and don't know about MaxManila because of the poll results. That's a really unfair thing to say, and it sounds like you're assuming that the majority would want the one that you have.
I'm not getting into an argument about it, so I won't take this any further, but it does sound like you're trying to prove your own decision correct, rather than find out what people are actually using. That's all the poll tells us - nothing more.
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Are you referring to Franwella's post or mine? If you're referring to me, then you have misunderstood me. I really do want to find out what people want/use/choose, but the difference between these two marvelous mods is unexplainable for/to me, that's all. Everybody has his/hers own freedom of choice and I do not want anybody to convince to take a certain/other choice. I really do not mind which one of the two people choose/use, I made my choice and probably you made yours. Hope this explanation helps.
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I wonder if this poll will actually inform some people of MaxManila's existence? and will any one change from one to the other?
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Let's hope so, cause the difference is way too big now.
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I'm referring to that conversation.
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I'm referring to that conversation.
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OK, but nevertheless: see my last post to you.
On the other hand everyone is entitled to have its own opinion or express his/hers surprise/amazement/meaning of the huge difference between these two great mods without (having the intention to force) forcing anybody to change his/her mind. Personally I think, although I respect you and your work very much, that your reaction was a little harsh/negatively loaded (probably because you're a Cookie user and you are also the writer of CHT Editor) and I'm not pleased with the accusation of assumimg that people should choose what I want, unless you are just being sarcastic/cynical judged by the smiley you added to your post.
Because I respect you very much and do not intend to offend you, I would like to propose that we end this discussion by stating that we stand differently in this matter, but that neither of us, or if you prefer I, tries to convince people to make a certain choice.
kind regards, Kuzibri
So Swiftkey is pretty excellent.
The previous beta release sent to me was GOOD, but definitely not good enough to take over swype.
However, yesterday I received the latest APK and man, it's awesome.
It's incredibly fast and the text prediction is simply brilliant, the video is too conservative at the speed you can type.
It reminds me a LOT of touchpal, and I would love to see the swipe symbols implemented like they were in WinMo.
I recommend you guys head on over to their website here and try to sign up for the beta.
I used to be a huge Swype junkie, but I truly find this faster.
Check it out, you may like it.
Android Central's Keyboard Roundup featuring Swype/Swiftkey among others, here.
Ehh, IMHO I think they both suck.
VinceOB said:
Ehh, IMHO I think they both suck.
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Way to explain why, great constructive post, really.
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Way to explain why, great constructive post, really.
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welcome to internet
also, one could consider this whole thread an opinion piece
intx said:
Way to explain why, great constructive post, really.
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I know huh....
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welcome to internet
also, one could consider this whole thread an opinion piece
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In response to the bolded part: and? Does that preclude the need for supporting information? If anything it emphasizes the necessity; opinions aren't facts, they cannot stand without support.
Edit: To the OP, i'm gonna check out swiftkey, although I can't imagine it being better than swype. Could you have not just shared an apk?
I struggle with Swype but I see potential in the concept. I signed up for the beta. Thanks OP.
I'd be interested in seeing the super prediction done by Swiftkey, but I don't know... I'm getting better with and liking Swype more and more every day.
The learning system in Swype I think is what I like best. Some word isn't in the dictionary? Just type it in and it's added. No asking, no popup window, it's just there next time you use it.
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welcome to internet
also, one could consider this whole thread an opinion piece
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-_-. welcome to the internet, really? Guess I have no idea what I'm doing here, thanks for the welcome though.
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In response to the bolded part: and? Does that preclude the need for supporting information? If anything it emphasizes the necessity; opinions aren't facts, they cannot stand without support.
Edit: To the OP, i'm gonna check out swiftkey, although I can't imagine it being better than swype. Could you have not just shared an apk?
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Would if I could. Attached to every release is a software release licensing stating that it is not to be handed out.
Android Central featured both Swype and Swiftkey in a review here:
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-centrals-keyboard-roundup
He seemed to prefer Swiftkey as well.
What version is swiftkey up to now? The last one I used was 0.9.3 I think..
I received an email and downloaded the latest version (.9.13) but I am unable to get it to install on DC. I am very impressed with the prediction but it is a litle laggy. Glad to hear the update is faster (if I can get it to work).
Waiting for me email
Just signed up for swiftkey.. Swype still hasn't emailed me yet and I'm using SlideIT now.. SlideIT is working pretty well.. I tried shapewriter, but didn't like it very much. SlideIT will suffice until I get an invite to swype or swiftkey
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I am loving swype... very fast at it now.
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Just signed up for swiftkey.. Swype still hasn't emailed me yet and I'm using SlideIT now.. SlideIT is working pretty well.. I tried shapewriter, but didn't like it very much. SlideIT will suffice until I get an invite to swype or swiftkey
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PM me if you want the swype or swiftkey apk.
i have tried both and only wish swiftkey would do a better pridiction for surrounding letters. swype imo is faster for typing and more accurate. i would love to see swiftkey guess the words better with more choices of guess words. that would make me switch.
swiftkey v0.9.14
I'm on SwiftKey .9.15. It is excellent, but I have two MAJOR complaints:
1. No custom dictionary. Really? What is this, a 2004 Nokia phone? I thought these were called SMART phones
2. It cannot for the life of it figure out verb tense. If I write a future-tense sentece, it'll suggest a past-tense verb and a present-tense verb, but I have to type the future-tense verb out. It's ridiculous.
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PM me if you want the swype or swiftkey apk.
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pm'd you - thanks!
Really are the other ones better then ShapeWriter? I just started using it and its not laggy what so ever. I love it and works with my fat fingers.
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Hi.
I don't post much, I know, but I've been a lurker for quite a while. Anyway, long story short, I had a SGS for a while and by then (when it was new and shiny and the best thing of the world) every (or almost every) custom rom had something that distinguished it from the others (even with all the locked and closed source stuff). Either a new launcher, supercharged scripts, themes... you probably know what I mean. Fast-forward to 2014 and here I am with a brand new Nexus 5 with readily available source and binaries... I mean it's the or one of the most open phones in the world.
But, every custom ROM, be it stock or CM based, looks the same to me. Sure, names differ a lot (Dark UI, Black Carbon Fibers or whatever it is) but the overall functionality is the same. Innovation (or Imagination?) is near null values.
Apart from a few (SlimKat comes to mind even tho it has much of the functionality of the others, it's quite small in size compared) every rom looks the same. Not to mention there is quite less roms available for the device than for others.
Note that by saying this I mean no disrespect to the cookers or kitchen teams. Their work is highly appreciated.
Is it just me? Am I missing something?
Because every dev is building their ROMs using the same source.
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Hi.
I don't post much, I know, but I've been a lurker for quite a while. Anyway, long story short, I had a SGS for a while and by then (when it was new and shiny and the best thing of the world) every (or almost every) custom rom had something that distinguished it from the others (even with all the locked and closed source stuff). Either a new launcher, supercharged scripts, themes... you probably know what I mean. Fast-forward to 2014 and here I am with a brand new Nexus 5 with readily available source and binaries... I mean it's the or one of the most open phones in the world.
But, every custom ROM, be it stock or CM based, looks the same to me. Sure, names differ a lot (Dark UI, Black Carbon Fibers or whatever it is) but the overall functionality is the same. Innovation (or Imagination?) is near null values.
Apart from a few (SlimKat comes to mind even tho it has much of the functionality of the others, it's quite small in size compared) every rom looks the same. Not to mention there is quite less roms available for the device than for others.
Note that by saying this I mean no disrespect to the cookers or kitchen teams. Their work is highly appreciated.
Is it just me? Am I missing something?
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by look the same, you mean theming? you can do your own theming. nexus devices are lucky, they have access to source and the binaries, the other devices dont. from what i see, most other devices try to get aosp working on them, but dont fully or in a non hacky way. so they try other stuff with their roms, like more theming. people mostly buy nexus devices because they lack all the oem thrown in stuff and run pure android. the developers buy nexus devices for the same reason. generally, there isnt much demand for theming a nexus rom. nexus people like the basic android ui, as well as the developers. plus, id say that the over all age of nexus users is a little older than other android phones, and theming is more prefered by children and teenagers.
oh, and btw, nexus developers only use open source code, as its illegal to publish anything public using closed sourced code. anyways, nexus is all ooen source code, except for the binaries.
While all my examples were about theming, I didn't want to focus just on theming. I don't see roms using custom launchers or even a custom theme or kernel.. Nor do they integrate apps from other devices or from the market/devs here on XDA. Every cm11 based rom is pretty much the same functionality wise and I don't even want to talk about the stock based ones.
I thought that nexus owners being them users or developers bought the devices because it would be easier to use or create custom roms for them due to the openness of the system.
Also if it is illegal to post stuff with closed source code (and I know it is) why do all the other devices have a ****load of roms with proprietary stuff in them?? They're still pretty much available here (I'm thinking of the live with Walkman forum)..
Most roms there have stuff from newer and better devices which do actually work and that phone is really poor on terms of hardware specs.
It seems to me that most cookers for the nexus 5 are cooking the same dish but calling it different names because they might plate it In a different way.
It's a bit late now for me now, but I guess sooner or later I'm going to create a deviation of the rom list available as a Google document here and try every rom and compare them feature wise. So I can know for sure if I'm right with what I say here or if it's just a product of my imagination.
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While all my examples were about theming, I didn't want to focus just on theming. I don't see roms using custom launchers or even a custom theme or kernel.. Nor do they integrate apps from other devices or from the market/devs here on XDA. Every cm11 based rom is pretty much the same functionality wise and I don't even want to talk about the stock based ones.
I thought that nexus owners being them users or developers bought the devices because it would be easier to use or create custom roms for them due to the openness of the system.
Also if it is illegal to post stuff with closed source code (and I know it is) why do all the other devices have a ****load of roms with proprietary stuff in them?? They're still pretty much available here (I'm thinking of the live with Walkman forum)..
Most roms there have stuff from newer and better devices which do actually work and that phone is really poor on terms of hardware specs.
It seems to me that most cookers for the nexus 5 are cooking the same dish but calling it different names because they might plate it In a different way.
It's a bit late now for me now, but I guess sooner or later I'm going to create a deviation of the rom list available as a Google document here and try every rom and compare them feature wise. So I can know for sure if I'm right with what I say here or if it's just a product of my imagination.
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well, then nexus romming wont be right for you.
on second thought, the nexus 5 is definitely not right for you.
there are many roms that include custom kernels. and, there is a large number of custom kernels that you yourself can CHOOSE to flash on your own.
and the thing about nexus devices, all of them, is that they dont include bloat. which is another reason people buy them. the far majority of people here dont want roms to add more apps. again, you can do that on your own. it gives you choice of what you want, and you dont. many here like roms debloated.
and you talk about cm as its something big. cm isnt big for the nexus 5, its aosp. thats what people want. they want the pureness. not the over-hacked bloated of a rom. and again, thats what people buy nexus devices. we have full source. no over hackery needed, its clean and pure.
the proprietary stuff comes with the phones already, so people that buy those phones have a right to it. anyways, people that arent part of open source steal it. sometimes they get in trouble, sometimes they dont. legally, they can get in trouble if they distribute it. people that are part of open source respect others rights, and adhere to the rules and practices.
and there are two kinds of developer forums here, if you haven't noticed. android development and original development. in original development, they create an original piece of work. in android development, they take whats already out there, and do what they want with it.
it also seems as you think of the same and original works are about features. well, they are not. most of it is going to be inside the rom itself. like things that add speed, smoothness, and efficiency. most of the features are just added into the roms later, what its users like.
there are so many ways that you can make a rom your own, original. there are multitudes of ways you can mod what you are running. be creative, set it up as you personally like. make it yours.
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I'm going to create a deviation of the rom list available as a Google document here and try every rom and compare them feature wise. So I can know for sure if I'm right with what I say here or if it's just a product of my imagination.
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Don't post it here. It will be against the rules.
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Whatever you say we all love our Nexus 5 and what it offers..
shadowdevil said:
Whatever you say we all love our Nexus 5 and what it offers..
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I do love mine as well.
rootSU said:
Don't post it here. It will be against the rules.
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Really? There's one already available here (even tho it's outdated), that I found out in the OP of this Stickied Thread
simms22 said:
well, then nexus romming wont be right for you.
on second thought, the nexus 5 is definitely not right for you.
there are many roms that include custom kernels. and, there is a large number of custom kernels that you yourself can CHOOSE to flash on your own.
and the thing about nexus devices, all of them, is that they dont include bloat. which is another reason people buy them. the far majority of people here dont want roms to add more apps. again, you can do that on your own. it gives you choice of what you want, and you dont. many here like roms debloated.
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Well, I never meant to say that I wanted bloated roms. I understand the Nexus thing with AOSP, I really do. But while I agree that it having AOSP with full source and absolutely no bloat is its greater selling point (and one of the reasons I bought it), I'd think that if people with "closed devices" are tinkering with their devices in order to make them faster/nicer/prettier/<insert adjective here>, that a device for which there is full source and binary blobs compatible with every android version released after the device's released date, people would be more inclined to make custom roms that differ a bit more/offer more functionaly than AOSP. One of the things with open-source is freedom of choice, and sure, if you want pureness by all means go AOSP, but what if you don't? While AOSP is pure, it's lacking quite some features we've come to love on other phones...
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and you talk about cm as its something big. cm isnt big for the nexus 5, its aosp. thats what people want. they want the pureness. not the over-hacked bloated of a rom. and again, thats what people buy nexus devices. we have full source. no over hackery needed, its clean and pure.
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Again, see my previous point. If we have full source, we should have less issues while creating something more functional, prettier than people with closed devices.
simms22 said:
the proprietary stuff comes with the phones already, so people that buy those phones have a right to it. anyways, people that arent part of open source steal it. sometimes they get in trouble, sometimes they dont. legally, they can get in trouble if they distribute it. people that are part of open source respect others rights, and adhere to the rules and practices.
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Sure they have rights to it, as long as it is from the same device. Having a Xperia Z1 or T lockscreen or system UI on a LWW rom tho? I know it's illegal (on most countries) yet it is "accepted" here. I don't want stuff from another phone in my Nexus, but in the market there are so many good alternatives to AOSP/CM defaults that I find it strange that everyone is using either the AOSP Launcher (which has almost nil features and settings) or Launcher3 (or whatever it's called, which has like 1 or 2 more features than the AOSP launcher) and this is just a simple example.
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Really? There's one already available here (even tho it's outdated), that I found out in the OP of this Stickied Thread
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Thats a list of roms, kernels and mods. It just gives people links. It does not seek to compare. Its comparison that is not allowed
rootSU said:
Thats a list of roms, kernels and mods. It just gives people links. It does not seek to compare. Its comparison that is not allowed
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he's talking about the google excel spreadsheet that compares the features. its a link in the thread.
Zepius said:
he's talking about the google excel spreadsheet that compares the features. its a link in the thread.
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I guess it's been missed by the moderators then as any comparison is against the rules.
rootSU said:
I guess it's been missed by the moderators then as any comparison is against the rules.
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Is this an xda-wide rule? I've seen posts such as this one for quite a while now.
source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-s/general/war-obscurity-enter-risk-t2551028
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If we have full source, we should have less issues while creating something more functional, prettier than people with closed devices.
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You mean you expect devs here to build a rom that is quite similar to touchwiz, sense, and miui?
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Again, see my previous point. If we have full source, we should have less issues while creating something more functional, prettier than people with closed devices.
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prettier.. you do realized pretty is in the eye of the beholder? whats pretty to you is ugly as sin to me.
anyways, about creating something new and more functional.. the devs here work for free, on their own time. they have full time jobs, families, kids, and so on. they dont get paid for their efforts, or otberwise rewarded. where are they supposed to get the time for it? by the time they cteate something new, a new version of android will come out, and what they made will be looked past, among other things. maybe if we had full time xda devs.
what you need to do is create a rom yourself, or "shut up". as what you are posting is very disrespectful to the developers that we do have here.
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I guess it's been missed by the moderators then as any comparison is against the rules.
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The forum rules don't say anything about this. The only thing that seems similar is the "no best rom threads," but there's nothing about not being allowed to create a comparison thread.
Anyway, I think there are a few reasons for what the OP is saying.
The SGS ran a custom manufacturer skin, so you would have an assortment of TouchWiz ROMs and AOSP ROMs that would seem to lead to more variety.
Although it has always been possible to run a custom launcher, Google has made it much easier/more seamlessly integrated with the addition of the Home settings. There's no real reason to integrate a custom launcher unless you're building your own, which CM does still include.
With the Theme Engine you don't see too many ROMs integrating their own themes. SlimKat does still have TRDS which is basically a custom theme.
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The forum rules don't say anything about this. The only thing that seems similar is the "no best rom threads," but there's nothing about not being allowed to create a comparison thread.
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It's right up there in the general forum. It's a STICKIE! I don't know how you missed it.
Anyways here's the thread made by a moderator where it's clearly written that any kind of comparison threads aren't allowed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/message-moderators-users-please-read-t2500184
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ej8989 said:
Is this an xda-wide rule?
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Yes it is. Comparison threads are frowned upon everywhere.
vin4yak said:
It's right up there in the general forum. It's a STICKIE! I don't know how you missed it.
Anyways here's the thread made by a moderator where it's clearly written that any kind of comparison threads aren't allowed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/message-moderators-users-please-read-t2500184
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Yes it is. Comparison threads are frowned upon everywhere.
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IMHO, the list about OP is talking about is much more a "feature list" than a "comparison list".
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IMHO, the list about OP is talking about is much more a "feature list" than a "comparison list".
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I didn't quote the OP, did I?? I was replying to the other two.
vfmmeo said:
IMHO, the list about OP is talking about is much more a "feature list" than a "comparison list".
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lol, the op is NOT talking features. he wants to compare Roms for oiriginality, that isn't a feature list.
vin4yak said:
It's right up there in the general forum. It's a STICKIE! I don't know how you missed it.
Anyways here's the thread made by a moderator where it's clearly written that any kind of comparison threads aren't allowed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/message-moderators-users-please-read-t2500184
I missed it because we're in the Q&A forum not the general forum
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lol, the op is NOT talking features. he wants to compare Roms for oiriginality, that isn't a feature list.
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It's a bit late now for me now, but I guess sooner or later I'm going to create a deviation of the rom list available as a Google document here and try every rom and compare them feature wise. So I can know for sure if I'm right with what I say here or if it's just a product of my imagination.
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