Just curious: which Manila Mod do you like the most: Cookie's or MaxManila? It would be very nice if you give/describe your arguments for your choice. Thanks in advance.
regards, Kuzibri
I doubt many people will want to vote on this as a +ive vote for one seems like a -ive vote for the other, and they're both amazing mods.
I bet if you put an extra option of "I love them both" on there then you'd have loads of votes.
Besides, no-one on here has heard of NaxManila lol
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Just curious: which Manila Mod do you like the most: Cookie's or NaxManila?
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I doubt many people will want to vote on this as a +ive vote for one seems like a -ive vote for the other, and they're both amazing mods.
I bet if you put an extra option of "I love them both" on there then you'd have loads of votes.
Besides, no-one on here has heard of NaxManila lol
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you're very alert!!!
I'm mostly interested which one of the two is the most popular/practical/userfriendely, etc. Making a choice for either one does not mean a negative opinion/vote for the other one IMHO.
I'm willing to add the third option to the poll only don't know how to do/achieve that??
I don't think you can alter polls once you've made them, which makes sense really. Imagine doing a poll that says "which do you prefer" with the options "wm6.1" and "wm6.5" and you then add "iPhone" a month later lol. That would be funny actually
I've voted anyway. I like them both but have a preferred choice.
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I don't think you can alter polls once you've made them, which makes sense really. Imagine doing a poll that says "which do you prefer" with the options "wm6.1" and "wm6.5" and you then add "iPhone" a month later lol. That would be funny actually
I've voted anyway. I like them both but have a preferred choice.
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On second thought I do not think adding a third option (like them both) is necessary, because the mods cannnot coexist together on one device. So one has to make a choice between either Cookie or MaxManila.
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On second thought I do not think adding a third option (like them both) is necessary, because the mods cannnot coexist together on one device. So one has to make a choice between either Cookie or MaxManila.
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Which is why I made my point that lots of people won't want to vote. Just my thoughts mate. Good luck with your poll.
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Which is why I made my point that lots of people won't want to vote. Just my thoughts mate. Good luck with your poll.
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Thanks John, I really do not mind whether many people will vote or not, or even comment on their choice. I also do like both mods but, just like you, I have my preference. Just curious how the odds are between these two amazing mods!
IMO the voting goes pretty well, though I would like to have/see some more arguments/comments regarding the choice one has made. I know that both mods are amazing but people must have made a choice based on arguments pro/con cause the mods cannot coexist on the same device. This poll is not meant to judge either of the mods (and also not to offend the developers of these wonderful mods), but just based on my personal curiosity why people choose either Cookie or MaxManila for their device. No hidden reasons/agenda or whatever.
regards, Kuzibri
Vote one for MaxManila!
I thought I would add a few supporting points as to why I prefer MaxManila.
Cookies is great, there is no denying that and ultimately, IMHO the best option would be to have them compatible with each other. If MM and Cookies could coexist I would be in a happy la la land of joy!
As it stand though, I had to make a choice. My reasoning was that, when it came down to it, Cookies really only offered me lots and lots of pages icons. I don't really need this. It was annoying on the iPhone as it was, it is also much the same as how the start menu is now, just side-by-side and a little more flexible in customisation.
MaxManila offered more than that. It offered a combination of features I would otherwise have installed individually; background for all tabs (including panoramic), increase number of quicklinks, transparent slider, customisable history and calendar bars, among other things.
The one thing that probably sold it for me was the clock options. I prefer the digital/analog side-by-side clock look to the original Sense UI. With eight layout options and many alternative clock appearances there is something for everyone.
Overall MaxManila is easy, flexible and attractive... oh, and have you seen what's to come next? See here ... I can't wait!
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I thought I would add a few supporting points as to why I prefer MaxManila.
Cookies is great, there is no denying that and ultimately, IMHO the best option would be to have them compatible with each other. If MM and Cookies could coexist I would be in a happy la la land of joy!
As it stand though, I had to make a choice. My reasoning was that, when it came down to it, Cookies really only offered me lots and lots of pages icons. I don't really need this. It was annoying on the iPhone as it was, it is also much the same as how the start menu is now, just side-by-side and a little more flexible in customisation.
MaxManila offered more than that. It offered a combination of features I would otherwise have installed individually; background for all tabs (including panoramic), increase number of quicklinks, transparent slider, customisable history and calendar bars, among other things.
The one thing that probably sold it for me was the clock options. I prefer the digital/analog side-by-side clock look to the original Sense UI. With eight layout options and many alternative clock appearances there is something for everyone.
Overall MaxManila is easy, flexible and attractive... oh, and have you seen what's to come next? See here ... I can't wait!
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Franwella, thanks for your answer and arguments of choice. I also prefer MaxManila for almost the same reasons as you mention,plus the fact that it gives you the opportinuty to keep your homescreen as clean as possible. I know what is coming and it looks very promising. Awaiting the ETA.
regards, Kuzibri
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I also prefer MaxManila
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I was quite interested to see that there is such a difference in the numbers between MM and Cookie users. I initially thought the results would be fairly balanced.
Obviously the poll is still only covering a very small group, but it makes me wonder what the reason for the imbalance is. Is it just that people aren't as familiar with MM? Are people looking for the iPhone like icon overload?
Hmmmm, it will be interesting to follow this thread and see how the stats develop.
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I was quite interested to see that there is such a difference in the numbers between MM and Cookie users. I initially thought the results would be fairly balanced.
Obviously the poll is still only covering a very small group, but it makes me wonder what the reason for the imbalance is. Is it just that people aren't as familiar with MM? Are people looking for the iPhone like icon overload?
Hmmmm, it will be interesting to follow this thread and see how the stats develop.
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I'm also a surprised in the difference between the two. Thanks for doing followup.
regards, Kuzibri
to be honest they both hav there on thing going which is cool...
but cookie is a solid mod app, max is a mod app that u can mod even more urself, so there is no one is better then the other , but me personaly i use max
wingtytn said:
to be honest they both hav there on thing going which is cool...
but cookie is a solid mod app, max is a mod app that u can mod even more urself, so there is no one is better then the other , but me personaly i use max
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Thank you very much for your reply and argumentation of your choice! The goal of the poll is just to know which of the two mods people are using and, if possible, why. It's not meant to be a better/worse poll.
regards, Kuzibri
Hmmm
I wonder if this poll will actually inform some people of MaxManila's existence? and will any one change from one to the other?
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I wonder if this poll will actually inform some people of MaxManila's existence? and will any one change from one to the other?
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Let's hope so, cause the difference is way too big now.
Sounds like a bias there to me
You're assuming that people have just take Co0kie's and don't know about MaxManila because of the poll results. That's a really unfair thing to say, and it sounds like you're assuming that the majority would want the one that you have.
I'm not getting into an argument about it, so I won't take this any further, but it does sound like you're trying to prove your own decision correct, rather than find out what people are actually using. That's all the poll tells us - nothing more.
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Sounds like a bias there to me
You're assuming that people have just take Co0kie's and don't know about MaxManila because of the poll results. That's a really unfair thing to say, and it sounds like you're assuming that the majority would want the one that you have.
I'm not getting into an argument about it, so I won't take this any further, but it does sound like you're trying to prove your own decision correct, rather than find out what people are actually using. That's all the poll tells us - nothing more.
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Are you referring to Franwella's post or mine? If you're referring to me, then you have misunderstood me. I really do want to find out what people want/use/choose, but the difference between these two marvelous mods is unexplainable for/to me, that's all. Everybody has his/hers own freedom of choice and I do not want anybody to convince to take a certain/other choice. I really do not mind which one of the two people choose/use, I made my choice and probably you made yours. Hope this explanation helps.
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I wonder if this poll will actually inform some people of MaxManila's existence? and will any one change from one to the other?
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Let's hope so, cause the difference is way too big now.
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I'm referring to that conversation.
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I'm referring to that conversation.
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OK, but nevertheless: see my last post to you.
On the other hand everyone is entitled to have its own opinion or express his/hers surprise/amazement/meaning of the huge difference between these two great mods without (having the intention to force) forcing anybody to change his/her mind. Personally I think, although I respect you and your work very much, that your reaction was a little harsh/negatively loaded (probably because you're a Cookie user and you are also the writer of CHT Editor) and I'm not pleased with the accusation of assumimg that people should choose what I want, unless you are just being sarcastic/cynical judged by the smiley you added to your post.
Because I respect you very much and do not intend to offend you, I would like to propose that we end this discussion by stating that we stand differently in this matter, but that neither of us, or if you prefer I, tries to convince people to make a certain choice.
kind regards, Kuzibri
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I have been using Slide2Unlock on my WM6 Hermes now for a while and have really gotten to like it, so much that I want the iPhone look and feel on my PPC.
I have seen a few around but then seem parts of the full package. Is there one particular one that seems the best all rounder?
I came across this one but haven't tried it yet:-
http://www.ozankilic.com/?p=31
I would like a version that has the iPhone dialler but needs to have the smart dialler functionality so that names come up when I type numbers etc..
I would also like to continue to use Slide2Unlock
Also, I would like the icons on the today screen etc...
Can you please point me in the direction of a good version.
Many Thanks
Mark
Can anyone offer any input into this topic? or pointers to different iPhone themes
Thanks
iLaunch for Pocket PC
You can check out this...looks like what you are looking for.
http://www.dvdtoiphone.com/
Scroll down to the PPC software...
anothersmith said:
You can check out this...looks like what you are looking for.
http://www.dvdtoiphone.com/
Scroll down to the PPC software...
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That looks good but doesn't appear to have the animations etc..
How do you think it compares to http://www.ozankilic.com/?p=31?
have also come across this one but also don't know how it compares to all the others:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308215&highlight=iphone
These seems to be so many, is there one particular good allrounder?
Regards
Mark
Wisbar Desktop
Check out
www.lakeridgesoftware.com
Its a program called wisbar advance and desktop. They are great programs and will let you design your UI any way you like. If you go to the forum and under skins, search for iphone. You will find people who have done plenty of iphone skins and have uploaded them so others can use them.
Right now there is no way for our phones to handle the transitions that they show the iphone do. It take my phone (Hermes) 5 seconds to do a transition that is fade to black. So until Windows Mobile upgrades the way the run graphics we are out of luck.
For transitions, try iTask. There are actually a bunch out there right now;
Grumps' iPhone App (stable, fast, has animation of icons disappearing one after another when opening app, but no longer being developed)
iFonz (active developer, many features, but kinda slow startup, since it is written fully in .NET)
iTask (written completely in flash, if you can deal with that, it has iPhone-style animations and is fast, not much development lately)
In the end, it's all personal preference. From what I remember, Grumps' iPhone App is the lightest and fastest, but least featured (a straightforward launcher). iFonz aims the most to emulate the iPhone exactly, but iTask is pretty similar, and has built-in apps like Satellite.
This thread seems to be advertising in every post...
Ads on xda?
Good lordy, ban that person!
Anyway, I'm a sucker who goes through iPhone envy every now and then. I've actually tried most of the ones mentioned above, spending WAY too much money for the one using wisbar. To be honest, my favorite was iFonz, which, oddly enough, doesn't cost a dime.
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JUST ADDED...
Hi Guys,
I added a video so you can see www.iphoneforppc.com in action!
Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyb-KKI2d2s
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Thats slide to unlock and other FREE Apps from XDA..
Don't shoot me for advertising, but it's relevant and helps the user, so here goes...
touch innovation is all about windows mobile programs that are LIKE the iPhone. All the programs with the iPhone feel and transitions etc.
If you're interested go here:
Touch Innovation website URL
Napbree said:
Don't shoot me for advertising, but it's relevant and helps the user, so here goes...
touch innovation is all about windows mobile programs that are LIKE the iPhone. All the programs with the iPhone feel and transitions etc.
If you're interested go here:
Touch Innovation website URL
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dude, i think you ought to advertise it even more... maybe we should have a sticky for this website.. it's great.
if you want an iphone - buy an iphone!
Napbree said:
Don't shoot me for advertising, but it's relevant and helps the user, so here goes...
touch innovation is all about windows mobile programs that are LIKE the iPhone. All the programs with the iPhone feel and transitions etc.
If you're interested go here:
Touch Innovation website URL
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Great site, good way to track all the wonderful apps people are creating here
iFonz is free. Why would anyone pay $9.95 for that one?
nir36 said:
dude, i think you ought to advertise it even more... maybe we should have a sticky for this website.. it's great.
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You just made my day! Thanks alot, good to know my hard work is being appreciated! I would love to get a sticky for my website - but I don't think they would allow it.
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Great site, good way to track all the wonderful apps people are creating here
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Thank you again
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P.S I just tested the iLaunch, and it's really bad :/
tjex said:
Great site, good way to track all the wonderful apps people are creating here
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I agree. I started using it a few days ago and it's great so far. I'm like most people who likes a 1 stop shop.....
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I can't believe this is my first post!?!?!
ifonz is the best and its free. Try is first before you buy anything else. i promise you will like it. also the new update is available.
cabayboy831 said:
ifonz is the best and its free. Try is first before you buy anything else. i promise you will like it. also the new update is available.
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I tried a lot of iphone lookalike tools, but ifonz is far away from beeing the best!
Maybe its the best for you...
Best iClone
So far, Torx's theme has been the best for me. It allowed me the iPhone look, but WAD/WA3 allowed me to customize it even more to suit my preferences.
That's just my 2 cents, which may not even be worth that.
Hi there,
Someone knows how to localize the TouchPal keyboard?
Regards,
Taguapire.
But why even bother with that?
You can use this keyboard from www.fingertouchpro.com that is much better and supports English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian or even Greek, and you can also define your own languages.
I think it's clear what you should use
www.cootek.com
You can find all the information you need about this great keyboard....
I think if I read one more post pushing fingertouchpro this morning, I am going to puke.
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I think if I read one more post pushing fingertouchpro this morning, I am going to puke.
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I agree. Anyway, regardless of it's functionality I wouldn't use it because it looks disgusting. So they can post as much as they like, they won't sway me!
oseven said:
I agree. Anyway, regardless of it's functionality I wouldn't use it because it looks disgusting. So they can post as much as they like, they won't sway me!
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Mate, you don't need any software on your device - a nice looking artwork set as background would be more then you need. So judging the looks is not enough for let's say (the least) - a competent opinion.
Ad-posts are not good - but everybody does them. Why? Because marketing is part of everyday life. Even the tea you drink is because of some marketing campaign.
So your preferences in matter of keyboards are questionable. They are just a measure of the advertising you've consumed.
Bottom line, use FTPRO, is better
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Mate, you don't need any software on your device - a nice looking artwork set as background would be more then you need. So judging the looks is not enough for let's say (the least) - a competent opinion.
Ad-posts are not good - but everybody does them. Why? Because marketing is part of everyday life. Even the tea you drink is because of some marketing campaign.
So your preferences in matter of keyboards are questionable. They are just a measure of the advertising you've consumed.
Bottom line, use FTPRO, is better
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And I just puked.
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Mate, you don't need any software on your device - a nice looking artwork set as background would be more then you need. So judging the looks is not enough for let's say (the least) - a competent opinion.
Ad-posts are not good - but everybody does them. Why? Because marketing is part of everyday life. Even the tea you drink is because of some marketing campaign.
So your preferences in matter of keyboards are questionable. They are just a measure of the advertising you've consumed.
Bottom line, use FTPRO, is better
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1. TouchPal was not brought to my attention through any kind of advertising.
2. I chose to use TouchPal after trying many, many different SIPs as I found it fitted my needs the best
3. I don't drink tea
Oh and...if I'm persuaded by the type of advertising I see, then I would never touch the one you're pushing on people...
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1. TouchPal was not brought to my attention through any kind of advertising.
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I doubt this is true. It's not like you've seen a shop next to your house, selling touchpal. You've seen it somewhere, and that's advertising. Actually looking arround this forum I see it everywhere
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2. I chose to use TouchPal after trying many, many different SIPs as I found it fitted my needs the best
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Unfortunatelly it seems some of your choices where excluded randomly or on skin criteria. BTW, I need to inform you at this point that the skins are usually something that you can change.
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3. I don't drink tea
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Oh that's not a problem, I'm sure you got the idea.
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Oh and...if I'm persuaded by the type of advertising I see, then I would never touch the one you're pushing on people...
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This might be true, but usually to change this only takes more effort, to that point where even your friends tell you what you need to use.
This is getting to a philosophical level, so I'll stop now
Please do! Jees, I'm not usually one to get in an argument but you don't half force your product on people. I'm completely entitled to my opinion, and I don't want to use your keyboard..what's the problem?
Anyway, all I can say is you've guaranteed yourself one less customer, so congratulations
Hi,
I see that we have many many roms and 2 types of Sapphire (32B and 32A)
Now I have an idea to help users to install and change rom easierly.
Please read all idea before replying. Some ideas relate to others.
1. All developer should make 2 choices : 32A rom or 32B rom
2. 32B rom have data/app_s. Running system application on flash memory is more stable and faster than running on ext partition sdcard
3. Recovery should have new feature : Wipe data except data/app_s
Amon_RA should add this feature in his recovery.
4. Developers should remove his own theme, 3rd application (which can download from market), moded application ... from rom, rom will be more stable and smaller
5. If developer want share his theme or moded application or add new feature, he should share extend update in an update_extend.zip on his topic. I suggest him to use 1 folder on sdcard and command *.sh file
If you used iPhone, you will see that moded FW of iPhone OS doesn't include theme, extend application (which can download from Appstore). Why can't we do that? I think almost people just want to find a stable rom without theme, without extend application
Some good ideas
+1 from me
Moar standardization pleez
Sounds like the OP is ill-informed, and wants an iPhone.
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4. Developers should remove his own theme, 3rd application (which can download from market), moded application ... from rom, rom will be more stable and smaller
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i've seen a few of these in the dream forum.
the developer releases the rom as a base package. ie. rom only, no (or very few customisations).
then add on packs are released to add 3rd party apps and customisations.
eg. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
this developer has released 4 different roms. each one comes as a base rom that is rooted, and each rom also then has an expansion pack.
themes are then installed as separate downloads.
the post is also very clearly laid out. i wish more developers took the time to create such understandable threads.
Isn't this request cramping developer's style?
Yes that is what you may want. But at the end of the day, they are doing it out of their enjoyment. It's their project and they have free reign on what they do and when they do it. Out of shear good will developers share. Its not up to us to make requests on how things should be. Our roles is to be supportive and grateful for their contributions.
That's not to say your ideas aren't valid... perhaps just not entirely feasible.
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Isn't this request cramping developer's style?
Yes that is what you may want. But at the end of the day, they are doing it out of their enjoyment. It's their project and they have free reign on what they do and when they do it. Out of shear good will developers share. Its not up to us to make requests on how things should be. Our roles is to be supportive and grateful for their contributions.
That's not to say your ideas aren't valid... perhaps just not entirely feasible.
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Good Say My friend
seems like a pretty simple request. but what was said earlier has merit as well, since it is really the developer's choice since its done for free.
but yeah, some sort of options like Enthomer is nice. But then again those updates made by AmonRa and Cyanogen is awesome as well. Fast, stable and useful.
Oh, and I strongly support the part on the way the threads are made. some are really easy to follow up on for change logs and stuff, some are messy.
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If you used iPhone, you will see that moded FW of iPhone OS doesn't include theme, extend application (which can download from Appstore). Why can't we do that? I think almost people just want to find a stable rom without theme, without extend application[/B]
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Search the board (and the Android Market) for MetaMorph which does exactly that.
+1
well, although 'm not a dev, but as users this idea is pretty workable. at least we had lesser unneccesary thread and will look more neat and tidy. thats what make xda more professional and classy. way to go devs. +1 to the idea.
thanks.
OP, good idea, but not everyone may think like you, including the DEVs. There is nothing wrong with what you are stating, but it has been mentioned before that different DEVs want to work on different things; some people want to be unique.
One more thing, can you please not use the word should so much, please?
My wife uses it all the time..."you should clean this" " you should go here" " you should say this". thanks.
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Isn't this request cramping developer's style?
Yes that is what you may want. But at the end of the day, they are doing it out of their enjoyment. It's their project and they have free reign on what they do and when they do it. Out of shear good will developers share. Its not up to us to make requests on how things should be. Our roles is to be supportive and grateful for their contributions.
That's not to say your ideas aren't valid... perhaps just not entirely feasible.
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Agreed. Although some of the requests are somewhat reasonable, it's up to the devs to decide what they want to do with their free time and they are dedicating so much of it to making such great contributions to begin with.
We're not paying for the dev's services, so i dont think we have much pull on how they design their ROMS (nor should we)
I think if you want a specific ROM a specific way. YOU should be learning how to code and cook ROMS for yourself.
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Sounds like the OP is ill-informed, and wants an iPhone.
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Read and lol'd. This is probably pretty close to the truth.
Well I for one salute the OP for finally taking a stand and telling the devs what we really want. After all it is all about ME and what I want and they should bloody well be grateful that I even bother to tell them what is wrong with their work, and they should fix it faster. I am a busy guy and can't be bothered to figure out this stuff for myself....
If any of that even vaguely resonates with you... here is a very small clue, completely free of charge...
The devs do this work for their own reasons. Some do it for the challenge, some do it for fun, some do it because they want something different, some do it for the glory. However, they all share it and make the results of their hard work available for the benefit of us end user types. Many even provide free support and hand holding, answering the same questions over and over.
You can politely ask for things to change. If you structure your request well enough and it makes sense, some devs may see the benefit and change. Others will not. Trying to dictate standards of documentation, presentation, features, or packaging just is not going to work, and quite frankly why should it. They are not doing it for you, you are just benefiting as a side effect of them being willing to release their work.
I am sure if you were willing to pay regular software developer rates for a particular feature set, you could find folks willing to accommodate you. Unless you are willing to do that, consider that you already get far more than you pay for.
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OP, good idea, but not everyone may think like you, including the DEVs. There is nothing wrong with what you are stating, but it has been mentioned before that different DEVs want to work on different things; some people want to be unique.
One more thing, can you please not use the word should so much, please?
My wife uses it all the time..."you should clean this" " you should go here" " you should say this". thanks.
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I'm Vietnamese and my English is not good. I just know saying " you should do something" is better than saying "you have to do something" or "you must to do something"
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Isn't this request cramping developer's style?
Yes that is what you may want. But at the end of the day, they are doing it out of their enjoyment. It's their project and they have free reign on what they do and when they do it. Out of shear good will developers share. Its not up to us to make requests on how things should be. Our roles is to be supportive and grateful for their contributions.
That's not to say your ideas aren't valid... perhaps just not entirely feasible.
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So I guess we should also stop giving developers suggestions and bug reports, because who wants to fix bugs for enjoyment? I disagree quite a lot with your post; it is in fact our role to make requests. How are ROMs supposed to get better without the input of its users? You completely contradict yourself by saying that we should not "make requests" but we should "be supportive," because by making requests, you are being supportive. By trying to better the project, you are being far more supportive than a silent user.
It's not like funbacon's suggestion has malicious intent. Neither is he trying to dictate what devs should and should not do. You don't have to agree with all of his points, but dismissing the whole thing because of one point, or the fact that he referenced the iPhone, is stupid. It's a suggestion, which most of you have said is a good idea, yet don't think it should be incorporated because... of the vocabulary used? Or maybe it's some other reason, but I have yet to see another valid reason.
Will this work in practice? That's another discussion. But I believe having some standards and general guidelines will be immensely helpful and make it simpler to try different ROMs.
Rydr1, you need counseling. Or a divorce.
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Well I for one salute the OP for finally taking a stand and telling the devs what we really want. After all it is all about ME and what I want and they should bloody well be grateful that I even bother to tell them what is wrong with their work, and they should fix it faster. I am a busy guy and can't be bothered to figure out this stuff for myself....
If any of that even vaguely resonates with you... here is a very small clue, completely free of charge...
The devs do this work for their own reasons. Some do it for the challenge, some do it for fun, some do it because they want something different, some do it for the glory. However, they all share it and make the results of their hard work available for the benefit of us end user types. Many even provide free support and hand holding, answering the same questions over and over.
You can politely ask for things to change. If you structure your request well enough and it makes sense, some devs may see the benefit and change. Others will not. Trying to dictate standards of documentation, presentation, features, or packaging just is not going to work, and quite frankly why should it. They are not doing it for you, you are just benefiting as a side effect of them being willing to release their work.
I am sure if you were willing to pay regular software developer rates for a particular feature set, you could find folks willing to accommodate you. Unless you are willing to do that, consider that you already get far more than you pay for.
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So... all the developers here make ROMs for themselves, but are nice enough to post it for everyone else to use?
Wow, haha. What a distorted view you have there. (Most?) developers aren't as selfish as you think they are. Developers make ROMs so the people who visit this forum can benefit from them, or at least that's the general reason. Why do you think they release updates often to fix bugs or add new functionality, or address issues and suggestions brought up by users?
Or, if I were to look at it from your point of view: users are just tools that devs use to make their ROM better.
Yeah, no. You shouldn't think so lowly of devs here. They should be appreciated, you know.
1.I will say that i've had android since day 1 and funbacon was around at that time to. helping and making changes himself to certain roms and apks etc...and helped other people, so he shouldnt be treated as a noob that doesnt know what he is talking about or that he is whining because that is not the case.
2. He made a suggestion that has to do with development and posted in the correct spot and he still hears **** from it? when there are people posting in deveoplment forums that has nothing to do it " what rom is the best, or what phone should i buy" and they dont get as much **** as your handing to someone that made a DEVELOPMENT suggestion and a good one. in the correct section. so people shouldnt be downing him for his work/suggestions
p.s funbacon...nice to see you around again
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I'm Vietnamese and my English is not good. I just know saying " you should do something" is better than saying "you have to do something" or "you must to do something"
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No, funbacon, you took it wrong. Im just kidding about using that word. there is nothing wrong with you using it, there is something wrong with my wife using it.
I was just adding a little fun to the thread.
Can anybody tell me where can I find Dink's and DJC full Anastiasia Theme?
This is great looking theme and unfortunetaly it's no longer avilable.
If anybody has is I would be very greateful if you could send it to me..
my adress sebasbox (here you know what) wp.pl
thanks
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=646282
Unfortunately no longer available.
I would also enjoy the full theme 50%.
Here is the theme for you .
Marcdu81, thank you.
I am too. Thank you
Here you can find also the complete bunch of single files: http://www.pocketpc.ch/htc-hd2-inte...iniks-djcs-anastasia-theme-v1-0-download.html
So what is the difference between the "full theme 100%" & the "full theme 50%"? Thanks for the link in PM de Wolfe
Any link for single files? The ones from above post have been deleted.
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So what is the difference between the "full theme 100%" & the "full theme 50%"? Thanks for the link in PM de Wolfe
Any link for single files? The ones from above post have been deleted.
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I'd like to know aswell.
one more
http://download812.mediafire.com/v3...+&+DJC+-+Anastasia+-+Full+Theme+100%+v1.0.cab
100%-version means that the background of the clock e.g. is not transparent. 50%-version means that it is transparent 50%. Just try both and compare.
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100%-version means that the background of the clock e.g. is not transparent. 50%-version means that it is transparent 50%. Just try both and compare.
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Will do.
The only thing left is to find single files.
Closing the thread because of a fallout over who has rights to which dialer graphics is extremely poor form.
I dont even use the theme but find this situation absolutely ridiculous.
Previously there was drama over someone creating a template for anastasia icons and again that thread was shut down.
This whole community on XDA is supposed to be about helping each other improve our devices.
The sort of Prima Donna attitude that is being displayed by certain people here is quite simply... pathetic.
Just to re-iterate... i dont use any component of the anastasia theme at all and never plan to do so.
I just feel that i needed to comment on these situations as it really is a very bad attitude for any designers/creators to take.
Imitation is the greatest form of flattery and everyone knows who is the original inspiration behind the anastasia concept. But to go and pull down all of your work over petty differences regarding where credit is due really does show people who you truly are.
This sort of attitude only hurts yourself in the long run as people will probably stop using any of your works entirely because at any minute there is a possibility you will throw a hissy fit and do the same thing again. I know i myself will certainly steer clear.
I do not wish to offend anyone with this post but simply wanted to make my feelings clear with situations like this.
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Closing the thread because of a fallout over who has rights to which dialer graphics is extremely poor form.
I dont even use the theme but find this situation absolutely ridiculous.
Previously there was drama over someone creating a template for anastasia icons and again that thread was shut down.
This whole community on XDA is supposed to be about helping each other improve our devices.
The sort of Prima Donna attitude that is being displayed by certain people here is quite simply... pathetic.
Just to re-iterate... i dont use any component of the anastasia theme at all and never plan to do so.
I just feel that i needed to comment on these situations as it really is a very bad attitude for any designers/creators to take.
Imitation is the greatest form of flattery and everyone knows who is the original inspiration behind the anastasia concept. But to go and pull down all of your work over petty differences regarding where credit is due really does show people who you truly are.
This sort of attitude only hurts yourself in the long run as people will probably stop using any of your works entirely because at any minute there is a possibility you will throw a hissy fit and do the same thing again. I know i myself will certainly steer clear.
I do not wish to offend anyone with this post but simply wanted to make my feelings clear with situations like this.
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I gotta say, I agree with you 100%. I didn't want to start this debate first, but I'm glad that you've let this out of yourself.
The XDA itself is a community which exists for helping and sharing, but some people do not understand that concept at all.
When I saw the reason for pulling the whole "project", I couldn't help myself sayin': "What the f***?" I'm surely a lot of people reacted the same way, but if you decide to open this debate, you gotta take sides in this case, considering the fact that there are two devs in this project.
I'm not going to say on which side I am on, but one thing is for certain: Canceling the whole project for the reason that we have seen is absolutely & utterly ridiculous!
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I didn't want to start this debate first
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Neither did i to be honest but it had to be said. I was going to create a new thread with my ramblings but opted to post here instead.
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I was going to create a new thread with my ramblings but opted to post here instead.
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It's better you didn't. Such ridiculousness doesn't deserve a new thread
I agree with the posts above. The tension around anything Anastasia is ridiculous. Clearly that's a lot of work for one person, if people are happy to help let them as long as they give you credit for it. I also find it against what XDA is about to start with but to each their mind I guess.
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I gotta say, I agree with you 100%. I didn't want to start this debate first, but I'm glad that you've let this out of yourself.
The XDA itself is a community which exists for helping and sharing, but some people do not understand that concept at all.
When I saw the reason for pulling the whole "project", I couldn't help myself sayin': "What the f***?" I'm surely a lot of people reacted the same way, but if you decide to open this debate, you gotta take sides in this case, considering the fact that there are two devs in this project.
I'm not going to say on which side I am on, but one thing is for certain: Canceling the whole project for the reason that we have seen is absolutely & utterly ridiculous!
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I agree with the posts above. The tension around anything Anastasia is ridiculous. Clearly that's a lot of work for one person, if people are happy to help let them as long as they give you credit for it. I also find it against what XDA is about to start with but to each their mind I guess.
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this is exact what im think about this and thats the reason why i have handel like this!Thanks.
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if people are happy to help let them as long as they give you credit for it.
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The whole agrument is about giving credit to begin with.
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The whole agrument is about giving credit to begin with.
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I'm pretty sure the argument is about using a design made by someone else. Anyway, if people want to help that's supposed to be good, he has lots of projects going on at the same time (theme, dialer, keyboard, slider, icons, etc.)
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I'm pretty sure the argument is about using a design made by someone else.
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Yes, which doesn't contradicts to what I've said.
i was looking though the touch wiz sys dump and i liked the keyboard so i put it in an update format. Just flash it, i gurantee youll like it. If not just remove it. I included the lwp as well that were posted earlier the lwp from it too, they work great on the phone though, I need someone to test it for me, cus swype is a pain to remove w/o wiping, and i already have all this on my phone. you just need to flash it like a rom. It contains 4lwp and 1keyboard app and their libs...dl the new lwp and kb HERE
Any chance of just getting the KB?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Screen shot?
installed and i opens but will not work, as in i can swype but no words show up in the box. oh well
it also installs like 5 live wallpapers
Yeah only regular tap input works.
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Any chance of just getting the KB?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
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just rip it out of the zip
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no time, sorry. you can rip them out and just install though, just make sure you take the lib files that go with them in your libs folder and the apps in your sys/app or data/app folder.
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installed and i opens but will not work, as in i can swype but no words show up in the box. oh well
it also installs like 5 live wallpapers
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thanks for testing it and the quick feedback. i stated that it included the lwps in the op. they are from the new touch wiz dump. Ill check to see whats up with swype, just figured id throw it out there for those that didnt see this stuff yet....also, did you remove your old swype completely? or did you not have it? cus its VERY hard to get rid of.....just wondering so i can fix if something wrong.
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Yeah only regular tap input works.
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sorry about that, and thanks.ok, soon as i get home ill post a link to a really sweet htc skinned swype mod. i use the red one in my newest rom, but the green one is slick too. im going to hang out for a little bit, when i get back ill put it up, and just take it out of the other one and ill mess with it, since its a full version.....
Let me see if I can accurately decipher this thread:
You saw something you liked, but didn't test it because its too much work to uninstall what you already have but that's ok because you already have it installed so you need someone else to take a blind leap of faith and install something you "gurantee" they'll like but if they don't that's ok too because they can just uninstall it (which really they can't do easily) but if you want to see what it is in the first place tough luck because you're out and about and have no time to post a screenshot for your own quasi-release?
If I were Canadian, I'd add "Eh?" at the end of that.
I strongly recommend that if you want to be taken seriously, you put a little more thought into your release posts. I applaud you for taking the time to share with the community, but frivolous posting of root-level patches without some form of quality control on your part could lead to a dangerous precedent of buggy and/or malicious code being introduced in the same channels.
I know you probably have the communities best interest at heart, but holding yourself to a higher standard keeps the bar high for the rest of those issuing releases to demonstrate an aptitude for solid documentation so people know precisely what to expect from dedicated contributors.
Good Luck!
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Let me see if I can accurately decipher this thread:
You saw something you liked, but didn't test it because its too much work to uninstall what you already have but that's ok because you already have it installed so you need someone else to take a blind leap of faith and install something you "gurantee" they'll like but if they don't that's ok too because they can just uninstall it (which really they can't do easily) but if you want to see what it is in the first place tough luck because you're out and about and have no time to post a screenshot for your own quasi-release?
If I were Canadian, I'd add "Eh?" at the end of that.
I strongly recommend that if you want to be taken seriously, you put a little more thought into your release posts. I applaud you for taking the time to share with the community, but frivolous posting of root-level patches without some form of quality control on your part could lead to a dangerous precedent of buggy and/or malicious code being introduced in the same channels.
I know you probably have the communities best interest at heart, but holding yourself to a higher standard keeps the bar high for the rest of those issuing releases to demonstrate an aptitude for solid documentation so people know precisely what to expect from dedicated contributors.
Good Luck!
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Do you really think i need YOU or ANYONE else to take ME seriously? my work speaks for itself, i could care less what you think of me, but just dont be disrespectful or snotty about it when you obviously have no clue as to what i do, if you say " which really they can't do easily" when you are speaking about removing a single app.I take it youve never been to dev? cus thats what ive been doing for the past 3 days, is working on my last rom. Then when i finish something that takes more than a day i take a break. I am not a developer nor have i ever claimed to be one.i have many contributions to the site,and taken a **** ton of time making sure my theads for them are maintained and everything i work on i support. Not a blind leap of faith, i have many pps that ASK to test for me because i dont have time to when im working. I have a 8mo old and fiance to take care of as well, this cannot be my ENTIRE life(though i might enjoy that)ive been asked permission to port 4 of my roms to other devices, and about 100 pps i talk to on a regular basis,you can talk to that will tell you another story about what I can DO. ? is what can YOU do? and WHY would you be ragging on someone who makes regular contributions to the site to help members enjoy their newest hardware just a little bit more? you want to see more go to hero-cdma and tell me some more about quality control. Search my name, check out a few of my mod threads both visually and contextually and then read what you just wrote one more time.....by the way, your a very good writer. You should be a reporter for national enquirer if you feel compelled to post again, can you please remain a little more on topic and a little less on me.....thanks
Thanks for this magnusragnarok! Any chance you could try to get an update zip with the t9 ime in the i9000 dump? I'm curious to see how the Sammy virtual keyboard looks. Also, that guy apparently doesn't realize how big of an asset you've been to the hero and evo communities. Keep up the great work!
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Do you really think i need YOU or ANYONE else to take ME seriously? my work speaks for itself, i could care less what you think of me, but just dont be disrespectful or snotty about it when you obviously have no clue as to what i do, if you say " which really they can't do easily" when you are speaking about removing a single app.I take it youve never been to dev? cus thats what ive been doing for the past 3 days, is working on my last rom. Then when i finish something that takes more than a day i take a break. I am not a developer nor have i ever claimed to be one.i have many contributions to the site,and taken a **** ton of time making sure my theads for them are maintained and everything i work on i support. Not a blind leap of faith, i have many pps that ASK to test for me because i dont have time to when im working. I have a 8mo old and fiance to take care of as well, this cannot be my ENTIRE life(though i might enjoy that)ive been asked permission to port 4 of my roms to other devices, and about 100 pps i talk to on a regular basis,you can talk to that will tell you another story about what I can DO. ? is what can YOU do? and WHY would you be ragging on someone who makes regular contributions to the site to help members enjoy their newest hardware just a little bit more? you want to see more go to hero-cdma and tell me some more about quality control. Search my name, check out a few of my mod threads both visually and contextually and then read what you just wrote one more time.....by the way, your a very good writer. You should be a reporter for national enquirer if you feel compelled to post again, can you please remain a little more on topic and a little less on me.....thanks
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GAHHHHHH MY EYEEESSS!!!!!
Comic sans?! Seriously?
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Thanks for this magnusragnarok! Any chance you could try to get an update zip with the t9 ime in the i9000 dump? I'm curious to see how the Sammy virtual keyboard looks. Also, that guy apparently doesn't realize how big of an asset you've been to the hero and evo communities. Keep up the great work!
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lemme check that out. i completely overlooked it. pretty sure i can. i can use all the practice i can get, i just have to rm it from the dump and find the libs that go with it, should be just like ours though. Ill pm you once i get it, then ill put it up if anyone else wants it. You have any screenies? just wondering what im workin for
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GAHHHHHH MY EYEEESSS!!!!!
Comic sans?! Seriously?
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SERIOUSLY, why whould you make it 2wice as bad by requoting the entire post in ITALICS? GOOD JOB. PLEASE try to remain on topic, this is a thread about a kb and the touch wiz lwp i put together in one update for everyones convenience, not about my choice of font and color. If we were not allowed the choice we would not have it available to us.
If you took a moment to actually absorb what I posted, you would recognize I did not besmirch your contributions, but was offering a point of constructive criticism.
Regardless of the quality or lack thereof of your "releases", your posts are plagued with you getting into flame wars with people because you feel like you have to defend yourself against any form of critique you don't agree with.
But hey, if you have five people who think your work is on par with some of those that I have donated to, by all means cater to that denominator. I'll gladly keep my feedback to myself and save it for someone who can handle dialogue with a little more class.
PS: Geocities is dead. You should let the single-paragraph-don't-have-time-to-run-auto-spellcheck-let's-use-teal-this-time-on-large-comic-sans-font-smash-your-forehead-on-the-keyboard-to-select-punctation diatribes die with it.
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If you took a moment to actually absorb what I posted, you would recognize I did not besmirch your contributions, but was offering a point of constructive criticism.
Regardless of the quality or lack thereof of your "releases", your posts are plagued with you getting into flame wars with people because you feel like you have to defend yourself against any form of critique you don't agree with.
But hey, if you have five people who think your work is on par with some of those that I have donated to, by all means cater to that denominator. I'll gladly keep my feedback to myself and save it for someone who can handle dialogue with a little more class.
PS: Geocities is dead. You should let the single-paragraph-don't-have-time-to-run-auto-spellcheck-let's-use-teal-this-time-on-large-comic-sans-font-smash-your-forehead-on-the-keyboard-to-select-punctation diatribes die with it.
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7posts? are you trying to offend me or make me laugh?not sure why youre so quick to bash strangers.please remain on topic or avoid posting. this is not a debate, merely a thread for another one of my contributions. Thank you