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[Q] Google Dev: Does Nexus S do 720p?

There are Google Devs that visit XDA right? Can one please confirm whether or not the Nexus S will do 720p. The specs say no, but I'm hoping its a typo. If not out of the box, then surely a software update will add it?

I would like to know this also

i'm not a google dev but it's confirmed that out of the box there is no 720p. Max resolution is 720x480.
However, the phone should support it since the Nexus one could and i'm pretty sure the galaxy s can as well. Hopefully within a few months (maybe weeks) of it being out with the source code people will be able to enable it.

the leaked nexus s sample video is 720p, so maybe it does have the feature.
here is the video and you can change the resolution to 720p: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM0n0H179jY&feature=player_embedded

Just throwing this out there, on the official nexus s page, it says it takes HD Video...

come on if you want to know info on a phone take at least do some HARD CORE researching lol. http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs

HTC HD2 MAN said:
come on if you want to know info on a phone take at least do some HARD CORE researching lol. http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs
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Yeah it's that 720x480 spec that throws me off. I'm hoping its a typo. I did see where it said HD video. That and the youtube video testing the quality are good signs that point to 720p I guess. A confirmation and/or correction to the specs would be nice though.

saint327 said:
Yeah it's that 720x480 spec that throws me off. I'm hoping its a typo. I did see where it said HD video. That and the youtube video testing the quality are good signs that point to 720p I guess. A confirmation and/or correction to the specs would be nice though.
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Don't worry about it, it DOES have it. What make you think a (google baby) high-end, 2.3 android, 2nd phone in the nexus line won't have 720p? haha all high-end phones will be having 720p.

On their features page they have mentioned this;
The rear-facing 5 megapixel camera is capable of taking stunning pictures and HD videos that you can share with friends and family. The front-facing camera can take VGA quality images and video.
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HTC HD2 MAN said:
come on if you want to know info on a phone take at least do some HARD CORE researching lol. http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs
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720 x 480 != 1280 x 720 != 720p
I'm hoping it's a typo, because I really want to like this phone.

Clearly the 720x480 video resolution is for the front facing camera.

ZeroSX said:
720 x 480 != 1280 x 720 != 720p
I'm hoping it's a typo, because I really want to like this phone.
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(Just to avoid total typ'o'fest... 1280x720 (non-interlaced) == 720p)
720 x 480 is not VGA quality... so it may, or may not refer to the camera on the back...
It would be a GLARING mistake not to mention a functioning 720p recording on the spec sheet...

rajendra82 said:
Clearly the 720x480 video resolution is for the front facing camera.
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Sadly, no:
Front-facing: VGA (640x480)
From: http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs

I Don't understand how this is even a question, we have established this is fundamentally the same phone as the current Galaxy S (I own one) which out of the box running 2.1 eclair had Full 720p support, both Video record (rear 5mp camera only) and playback, in fact it is so cool I am able to play the 720P .mkv High Def TV show downloads you see floating around on the net.
All this straight out of the box.

It will most likely be added later by google or a developer
Developers added 720p Recording to Nexus One
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6744172#post6744172
But yea kind of lame by default its not supported considering galaxy S does
rajendra82 said:
Clearly the 720x480 video resolution is for the front facing camera.
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no its not
ice_coffee said:
I Don't understand how this is even a question, we have established this is fundamentally the same phone as the current Galaxy S (I own one) which out of the box running 2.1 eclair had Full 720p support, both Video record (rear 5mp camera only) and playback, in fact it is so cool I am able to play the 720P .mkv High Def TV show downloads you see floating around on the net.
All this straight out of the box.
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Dont expect the same support on the NS those video codecs were supplied by samsung since this is Google only i wouldn't expect the same playback support the galaxy s line had .mkv...ect
Im really hoping im wrong though

ZeroSX said:
720 x 480 != 1280 x 720 != 720p
I'm hoping it's a typo, because I really want to like this phone.
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Actually its:
720 x 480 != 1280 x 720 = 720p

With Nexus S, however, an unexpected trick - in contrast to the Galaxy S, he writes not 720p video, but only 720x480. This is done so as not to create competition for their product. With the same purpose removed the expansion slot and FM-radio. At the Nexus S only built an array of 16 GB, and partly a desire to operators in other markets.
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Looks like a reviewer confirmed the missing 720p recording.
http://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/misc/Google_Nexus_S-rev.html (in Russian)

Even if the phone doesn't support it at the moment, I dont see why the devs here on XDA would'nt be able to add the feature considering it's essentially the same hardware as the Galaxy S..... and not to mention the devs here are awesome.

English translate
http://translate.google.com/transla...=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&prmd=iv

HTC HD2 MAN said:
Don't worry about it, it DOES have it. What make you think a (google baby) high-end, 2.3 android, 2nd phone in the nexus line won't have 720p? haha all high-end phones will be having 720p.
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the fact that they did not put in bt3, memory car slot, 3g+ and made the NFC read only meaning you can't use it to make payments\in the subway etc.?

So,...My girl is taking the NS back no zoom feature in the camera app?

So,...My girl is taking the NS back because it doesn't have a zoom feature in the camera app? I mean she is reaally upset about that...Share ur thoughts !
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Smilez_c said:
So,...My girl is taking the NS back because it doesn't have a zoom feature in the camera app? I mean she is reaally upset about that...Share ur thoughts !
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what are you expecting to be "shared"?
no zoom on the camera app is the deal breaker?
are you trolling?
what is the point of this post?

Smilez_c said:
So,...My girl is taking the NS back because it doesn't have a zoom feature in the camera app? I mean she is reaally upset about that...Share ur thoughts !
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
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Yes, as noted in the stickied FAQ, there is no digital zoom in the camera app like on other Android devices. As far as I know, and I'm sure someone will be quick to correct me, there hasn't been a real zoom on any phone.
Personally, this didn't bother me because the digital zoom always looked like crap lol.

Smilez_c said:
So,...My girl is taking the NS back because it doesn't have a zoom feature in the camera app?
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You should explain to her the difference between a mobile phone and a digital camera. And if she thinks that she can get the best of both (all) worlds in a single device, perhaps you should tell her about this thing called ... money?

shrivelfig said:
You should explain to her the difference between a mobile phone and a digital camera. And if she thinks that she can get the best of both (all) worlds in a single device, perhaps you should tell her about this thing called ... money?
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Bad idea, mate. Talk to a gal about money and all she hears is, "Let's go shopping!"

Smilez_c said:
So,...My girl is taking the NS back because it doesn't have a zoom feature in the camera app? I mean she is reaally upset about that...Share ur thoughts !
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Nearly all cell phone cameras lack "zoom".
What you see in cameras labeled "zoom" is actually cropping, so you end up with a lower quality crop.
Explain that and she'll be okay.

Please stop the arguing in this thread, or it will be closed and infractions/warning PMs will be sent. Thank you.
Edit: Thread cleaned from all the nonsense. Please, keep this on track.

Explain that all she's ever had on any phone is digital zoom which is not supported in the stock Android camera app. There are alternative camera apps in the Market if it's really important to her.

ekerazha said:
Nobody asked for your opinion, "go bith and moan" on another thread if you think it's all ok.
Like I've already explained: "maybe it's not so useful for pictures (because it's a digital zoom) but it could be useful for videos in order to move attention on a detail".
Lack of 720p is another issue, however, 720p recording (just like digital zooming) is usually interpolated on smartphones, so it's not a big one. Moreover, you know it doesn't record at 720p from specs.
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They down sample. There is no issue with downsampling. Upsampling (digital zoom) degrates the image.

JCopernicus said:
They down sample.
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Upsample. Usually on smartphones the sensor is not 720p capable but it has a lower resolution, so you get 720p recording by upsampling frames. However this is off-topic

its called crop it..done looks waaaaay better

I'm liking the responses
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werd theres not really a big use for zooming in anyway just take a pic and pinch to zoom it looks fine tbh. Not a good reason to return a good phone lmfao tell her to send it back get a free phone to make fone calls and text and buy a digital camera so she can take some ugly facebook pics

ekerazha said:
Upsample. Usually on smartphones the sensor is not 720p capable but it has a lower resolution, so you get 720p recording by upsampling frames. However this is off-topic
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Nope, video is downsampled from the sensor resolution.
720p frames = 1280×720
5MP sensor size = 2560×2048
The image captured by the sensor is downsized to the 720p size.
The reason cellphones aren't capable of 720p is because the hardware can't keep up with downsizing each frame that the camera is capturing.
Digital zoom in video means downsizing from the sensor resolution to the video resolution. Then upsampling the image information again to make it fit to the recording resolution. You're not gaining anything from digital other than introducing alot of noise.

Tell your girl to get an iphone.

JCopernicus said:
Nope, video is downsampled from the sensor resolution.
720p frames = 1280×720
5MP sensor size = 2560×2048
The image captured by the sensor is downsized to the 720p size.
The reason cellphones aren't capable of 720p is because the hardware can't keep up with downsizing each frame that the camera is capturing.
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So it can downsize to 480p but it can't downsize to 720p... interesting lol

tekkitan said:
Tell your girl to get an iphone.
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Lol ..
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tekkitan said:
Tell your girl to get an DSLR.
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There, I fixed it for you.

ekerazha said:
So it can downsize to 480p but it can't downsize to 720p... interesting lol
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Oops, I typed that out wrong. It can't keep up with processing the captured frames after downsizing.

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Oops, I typed that out wrong. It can't keep up with processing the captured frames after downsizing.
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Nope. There isn't any "downsizing", they are captured at lower resolution than the max resolution available (because of the bus width), usually the resolution is lower than 720p, then they are processed and upscaled to 720p.

[Q] Nexus S 720p HD hack?

I know it's not true HD but is there anyway to get the Nexus One HD hack on Nexus S?

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nop.....no way....cannot be done....not possible... and search the NS forum for 720,HD recording.. there were threads like this and it was concluded its not possible....if it was you would see roms with 720p on them or something.... try LG camera from market to record with MP4 if it gives you any satisfaction.
even i used to wonder the same thing when i got my nexus s first..

no... there are 10 other threads about this.

can you link me thread please?
I know 720p isn't possible but nexus one 720p hack isn't true HD
so is there how can I do this?
And I've talked to a person on youtube who've uploaded 720p Nexus S recording
and said he's using Oxygen ROM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDjsLV4JCUw&feature=channel_video_title
his video

He says right in the comments that it is 720x480. That's not 720p. 1280x720 is.

but youtube upscaled it to hd video like how they did it with the nexus one hack.
How was that possible?

Upscaled is the key word there. It isn't true 720p. I mean look at it. It looks like a scaled low res video.
Edit: I know you said you don't want true 720p, you just want the hack. But really if it looks like crappy upscaled video, what is the point?

lapalways05 said:
but youtube upscaled it to hd video like how they did it with the nexus one hack.
How was that possible?
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youtube does that for every video, it sets it in different p's but its not true 720p.
to find the thread, find it yourself

Best video converter?

Just wondering what video converter is best to use for the sensation. I want to fill whole screen, no black bars. I also don't want to wait 5 hrs for the video to convert. Any suggestions?

mikaeldalc said:
Just wondering what video converter is best to use for the sensation. I want to fill whole screen, no black bars. I also don't want to wait 5 hrs for the video to convert. Any suggestions?
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i have badaboom.. but it came with my nivida 460 gpu.. it only works with nividia graphic cards that i know of. but it works great otherwise.

mikaeldalc said:
Just wondering what video converter is best to use for the sensation. I want to fill whole screen, no black bars. I also don't want to wait 5 hrs for the video to convert. Any suggestions?
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Try Videora. You can find it just by googling it. I was really big on it back when I had a (don't everyone flame on me at once) iPod Video. It converted them fairly quickly and it allows you to pick the resolutions you want.

If you have a Mac I swear by Hand Brake. When I had a PC I uses Cucusoft, but that costs some dough.
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Blurry pixel screen when watching HD anime

Hello,
I'm new on this forum, so I will shortly introduce myself: My name is Ruben, I live in the Netherlands and I just bought a TF300t a week ago. Please, excuse me if I make some grammar mistakes.
I've got this weird problem: when I am watching my (downloaded) anime series, I sometimes get a blurry screen. This is mostly with dark colors, but sometimes with light colors too. There is no sign of any laggs. The "blurry pixels" just come and go. This might help you:
Using: MX player
Playing: HD anime (720p/1080p)
When does it occur: In H/W+ and H/W decoder enabled.
Let me tell you this, when I'm using S/W decoder, it's perfect. No blurry pixels but the problem then is that it is lagging.
I've tried a few other players, but neither of them worked. Just some little differences.
I've tried to change some settings in the MX player, but nothing worked out for me, unfortunately.
Watch the thumbnails for some examples.
I hope you can help me with this. It's very unfortunate I can't fully enjoy the HD-feeling on my new tablet.

It's certainly the video itself.. Possibly A bad conversion.
Definitely nothing to do with the tf300. Try other video players, like VLC and check if there's still the blurry pixels you say.
If it still persists, it's the video which is the guilty
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WIIstpM said:
It's certainly the video itself.. Possibly A bad conversion.
Definitely nothing to do with the tf300. Try other video players, like VLC and check if there's still the blurry pixels you say.
If it still persists, it's the video which is the guilty
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Well, it's with almost every video. Sw decoder works fibe. Is there a sollution for the lagg with sw decoder?
I am going to try VLC now.

VLC is working horrible. Cant even play a video. It's the beta in the Play Store.

Ruben Jb said:
VLC is working horrible. Cant even play a video. It's the beta in the Play Store.
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Try bs player mate it plays every thing for me, but when you get those blurry parts rewind the movie back to before it happens and if happens exactly the same every time its the video if it changes then it the player
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robgee789 said:
Try bs player mate it plays every thing for me, but when you get those blurry parts rewind the movie back to before it happens and if happens exactly the same every time its the video if it changes then it the player
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Both Bs player and Mx player show the same problems. EXACTLY the same. So the blurry parts come exactly the same time, every time. So you are saying it's the video, if this is the case? So what can I do? Download better quality, or lower quality? It's pretty sad, because I download the episodes when they just aired so I can watch them immediatly. It's always very good quality (720p or 1080p) and perfect on my desktop and for everybody else who are downloading the same torrent, but not for my tablet? I don't get why it's the video...
If the S/W decoder worked without laggs I would be satisfied already... Too bad it laggs. It doesn't show these blurry parts.

Ruben Jb said:
Both Bs player and Mx player show the same problems. EXACTLY the same. So the blurry parts come exactly the same time, every time. So you are saying it's the video, if this is the case? So what can I do? Download better quality, or lower quality? It's pretty sad, because I download the episodes when they just aired so I can watch them immediatly. It's always very good quality (720p or 1080p) and perfect on my desktop and for everybody else who are downloading the same torrent, but not for my tablet? I don't get why it's the video...
If the S/W decoder worked without laggs I would be satisfied already... Too bad it laggs. It doesn't show these blurry parts.
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I would say bigger is better (unless your streaming mate) ive had a few episodes of some programs that are 45 mins long and are 4GB in size and they play perfect,
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robgee789 said:
I would say bigger is better (unless your streaming mate) ive had a few episodes of some programs that are 45 mins long and are 4GB in size and they play perfect,
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I just sent you a private message. I'm not sure if you received it. My " sent folder " keeps telling me I didnt't sent anything to anyone.

I just tried 480p and the same video doesn't get blurry with 480p. But you can't possibly say I can't watch 1080p or even 720p with this tablet. Even my desktop which is way worse than the specs of this tablet can play 1080p anime series.

Ruben Jb said:
I just tried 480p and the same video doesn't get blurry with 480p. But you can't possibly say I can't watch 1080p or even 720p with this tablet. Even my desktop which is way worse than the specs of this tablet can play 1080p anime series.
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Try the hd anime files on a computer. I'm also certain it's the video file and not your device.
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elesbb said:
Try the hd anime files on a computer. I'm also certain it's the video file and not your device.
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Nope, my desktop plays it smoothly. Strange, isn´t it? :s

Robgee789 tried the same video's on the same tablet as me, and didn't get this problem. It's so strange.
I just downloaded a non-anime movie: Harry.Potter.And.The.Deathly.Hallows.Part.2.2011.BluRay.720p.H26
It didn't show any signs of blurry frames in H/W+ decoder. So I guess it's only my anime video's. But then again, Robgee789's same tablet doesn't have any problems with this.
Is it my tablet, or some settings?
EDIT:
Harry Potter was a MP4 file, all of my anime series are .MKV
But, I tried a 720p .MKV movie (also Harry Potter) and everything went fine too. I'm not sure, but the resolution of this video says 1280 x 544 (so not 720p??) and my anime series say 1280 x 720. But then also I got one anime serie which I can play without problems (720p, 1280x720) while other series with the same 720p, 1280x720 resolution are blurry. And I'm talking about .MKV files. So where lies the difference?

Ruben Jb said:
Robgee789 tried the same video's on the same tablet as me, and didn't get this problem. It's so strange.
I just downloaded a non-anime movie: Harry.Potter.And.The.Deathly.Hallows.Part.2.2011.BluRay.720p.H26
It didn't show any signs of blurry frames in H/W+ decoder. So I guess it's only my anime video's. But then again, Robgee789's same tablet doesn't have any problems with this.
Is it my tablet, or some settings?
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Harry Potter was a MP4 file, all of my anime series are .MKV
But, I tried a 720p .MKV movie (also Harry Potter) and everything went fine too. I'm not sure, but the resolution of this video says 1280 x 544 (so not 720p??) and my anime series say 1280 x 720. But then also I got one anime serie which I can play without problems (720p, 1280x720) while other series with the same 720p, 1280x720 resolution are blurry. And I'm talking about .MKV files. So where lies the difference?
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It could be and most likely is the render that was used. If other formats are not giving issues my money is on it being the video file. I've already watched non HD movies and had the pixel faults. But, those same pixel faults were on my laptop as well.
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elesbb said:
It could be and most likely is the render that was used. If other formats are not giving issues my money is on it being the video file. I've already watched non HD movies and had the pixel faults. But, those same pixel faults were on my laptop as well.
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But how can you explain this:
My tablet shows these blurry parts, but my desktop doesn't.
And above all, this:
Robgee789's tablet (also TF300t) doesn't have this problems with the exact same file (I sent him the download link in private message).
Is my tablet broken? Maybe a full reset is needed?

Ruben Jb said:
But how can you explain this:
My tablet shows these blurry parts, but my desktop doesn't.
And above all, this:
Robgee789's tablet (also TF300t) doesn't have this problems with the exact same file (I sent him the download link in private message).
Is my tablet broken? Maybe a full reset is needed?
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this may sound stupid but try changing the file to .avi, just change the name it will it may corrupt the data but it will be fine and see if that works
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robgee789 said:
this may sound stupid but try changing the file to .avi, just change the name it will it may corrupt the data but it will be fine and see if that works
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Didn't work. But hey, watch your private message please, I think I found "something". I can explain it here too after you confirmed me something.

Take a close look at this picture.
Green: These files can be watched flawlessly. Great!
Red: Every file gives a blurry screen. Mind the different subbers (People who give subtitles to the episodes, so different uploaders).
Yellow: This is why I think I get a blurry screen.
Blue: The files which are working are all from the same subber: "HorribleSubs"
I now want to confirm if you dowloaded files from "Commie" or from "Horrible Subs". I forgot the link I sent you. It could be I changed by accident the links because either Horrible Subs as well as Commie both do upload the same series. If you downloaded from Commie, you "SHOULD" get a blurry screen too. If you downloaded from Horrible Subs, you shouldn't.

Actually this problem is caused by both device and video
I'm assuming that that video is an .mkv right? and the size is below 200MB?
okay, mkv is famous among pirated videos, in this case Anime (I don't stream, just download)
furthermore to avoid large sized videos (300 and sometime 400MB in 720) people encode them whether it's hVEC, h.264 or h.265... and that's where decoders barge in.
and due to android devices having weak capabilities of processing graphical memory (except snapdragon 830, that **** is godlike) in any form, u get that fuzzy blurry output using hw dec and lag using sw dec.
I haven't solved this issue yet so I try to stick to 480p if available

Hi,
does the problem still exist?
Can you check your files with MediaInfo?
I would like to know if the Format is
[email protected] or High [email protected] or something.
Cheers