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[Q] How can I watch 720p mkv video on Inspire 4G??

Wondering if anyone has a solution here, AVI and MKV have issues playing. The MKVs are 720p HD tv shows, and the audio is great, but the video is choppy\slow-mo. Has anyone managed to find a player or a method to resolve this? I know this has been discussed in other forums, but related to different phones, so curious if there's a specific fix to this phone, or if a 720p is just too much for the Inspire 4G to handle. I wouldn't think so since last year's iPhone 3G and 3GS and 4 can handle it just fine.... I'm thinking something is wrong or I'm using the wrong app.

I don't think the stock video player can do it, so you'll have to try some third party apps like VPlayer, RockPlayer, and Act 1. Let us know if any of those three get the job done. I'm curious too. Otherwise we may need to convert videos.

gtg465x said:
I don't think the stock video player can do it, so you'll have to try some third party apps like VPlayer, RockPlayer, and Act 1. Let us know if any of those three get the job done. I'm curious too. Otherwise we may need to convert videos.
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VPlayer - Same
RockPlayer - Same
Act 1 - Same
None of these seem to work. I wonder if it's the way my videos are encoded? I sure hope not, because all the MKV files I download from the torrents of tv shows I miss are formatted the same way. They always played fine on iPhone
Anyone else experience this issue and find a resolution?
Thanks!

maybe the class of your SD Card, for anything above 720p a class 6 card is needed

Wiingy said:
maybe the class of your SD Card, for anything above 720p a class 6 card is needed
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Oh really? I don't see any Class 6 or higher on Amazon. Mine is a class 4. Can the Inspire 4G even benefit from class 6? I'm able to watch them off the memory card on my class 4 when plugged into my computer just fine.

the desire hd can support all class cards including class 10, so i cant see why the inspire cant either.
Yea class 4 should be ok i would think? Have you tried different size files?
Is anybody else having trouble like this ?

Wiingy said:
the desire hd can support all class cards including class 10, so i cant see why the inspire cant either.
Yea class 4 should be ok i would think? Have you tried different size files?
Is anybody else having trouble like this ?
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I have 2 inspire 4g devices, and have tried both a Class 2 and a Class 4 card. I ordered a Class 10 from Amazon (they only had up to 16gb, not the 32GB like my class 4), so I'll report back tomorrow when it arrives.
The file I'm using is a 1.09GB MKV file.

I have yet to purchase the Inspire and this problem is one of the reasons that I am waiting. FWIW I have read many complaints from users having this problem.

I have the same issue
It happens on G1, Streak and Inspire. However, cheap Archos doesn't this issue. Isn't that ironic? I was trying to copy the Archos player but no success...

andycai said:
It happens on G1, Streak and Inspire. However, cheap Archos doesn't this issue. Isn't that ironic? I was trying to copy the Archos player but no success...
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Clearly it's either the way my video is encoded, or the lack of proper decoder on the android. I am at the end of my rope trying to resolve. I didn't like my iPhone because it's incompatibilities, and everyone with Android said "get an Android cause it'll decode anything" ... lol... wonder if we'll ever have a solution to decode a mkv properly.

You do realize that your phone is only capable of show video resolution up to 400p? MKV is mostly used for HD rips because it ends up having the best quality after compression, but your phone is not HD in the sense that it is over a standard definition television vertical wise (watching it in wide screen format).
Anything bigger will have to be scaled down by the player, sucking up battery life and you wont notice a quality difference. Aside from that, forcing your device to play something higher res will suck the battery life as well because it will be more intensive on the cpu. Why dont you just use xvid rips in avi format? Everything that's ripped in mkv is always ripped in xvid as well.

yareally said:
You do realize that your phone is only capable of show video resolution up to 400p? MKV is mostly used for HD rips because it ends up having the best quality after compression, but your phone is not HD in the sense that it is over a standard definition television vertical wise (watching it in wide screen format).
Anything bigger will have to be scaled down by the player, sucking up battery life and you wont notice a quality difference. Aside from that, forcing your device to play something higher res will suck the battery life as well because it will be more intensive on the cpu. Why dont you just use xvid rips in avi format? Everything that's ripped in mkv is always ripped in xvid as well.
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Yeah that's what I'm going to do is just rework the files. Any suggestion on an easy program for MAC to convert MKV to avi?
Thank you much!

I am using avi format xvid and it still can't play anything in hd. My captivate plays the same files fine wtf.
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Nevermind vplayer works for xvid avis I wonder why the stock player won't play any of them....
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laxwillsch said:
Nevermind vplayer works for xvid avis I wonder why the stock player won't play any of them....
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Yeah, the processing power is certainly there so I guess it's just an issue of improper codec execution :-(

Not sure on a player to watch them on android. I would just go through the top ones on the market place and do trial and error
I dont have a computer with osx on it currently, but VLC (the PC/OSX version) does convert file formats as well and it's free.

yareally said:
Not sure on a player to watch them on android. I would just go through the top ones on the market place and do trial and error
I dont have a computer with osx on it currently, but VLC (the PC/OSX version) does convert file formats as well and it's free.
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Yeah none worked. I think it's just the issue of the MKV file. They don't work on iPhone with any of the players either, I think it just takes more power and video processing to handle them.

Try xyflash, i used this on iphone. Android market has it also so i tried it. It plays 720p mkv bleach videos and sub titles work using mkv sub extractor. Not the best but it does the job i think

Did you guys try lower resolution files but coded in mkv?
Will the Atrix be capable of running 720p mkv files?

idanoclo said:
Try xyflash, i used this on iphone. Android market has it also so i tried it. It plays 720p mkv bleach videos and sub titles work using mkv sub extractor. Not the best but it does the job i think
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I don't even see an app by that name on the market. You realize that not everything for iPhone is for android, and vice versa, right?

Video player for MKV MP4 HD...

anyone know a decent video player for TF? wiht Tegra2 it even can play decent 720p MKV...

Haven't tried it for MKV containers but Buzz Player works perfectly with x264 encoded mp4 encodes.
Would love to find a player that dims the on screen Honeycomb buttons like the stock player though.

mobo player with codec
change the setting of mkv to software acc' in the setting

I use RockPlayer. Works perfect for me. Don't think its on the market though.
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Rosch89 said:
I use RockPlayer. Works perfect for me. Don't think its on the market though.
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https://market.android.com/details?...er.android.unified.lite&feature=search_result
Lite version is but not the full version. The watermark on the top left can be pretty annoying.

It's been mentioned in other forums- DICE Player works very well! The dev mentions in the app description that Tegra 2 might have some glitches, but so far it's been able to play most mkvs i throw at it- even those that mobo and mx (and others) play with no sound!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial&feature=more_from_developer

sadly tegra 2 is unable to fully decode HD using its hardware. dice so far has the smoothest frame rate in all the players out there, but it still lag at certain scenes where there is a lot of movement or fighting. hoping they be able to solve the problem.
anyway was wondering by increasing the processing speed of the tegra 2, will it be able to process mkv better?

gtsfrost said:
sadly tegra 2 is unable to fully decode HD using its hardware. dice so far has the smoothest frame rate in all the players out there, but it still lag at certain scenes where there is a lot of movement or fighting. hoping they be able to solve the problem.
anyway was wondering by increasing the processing speed of the tegra 2, will it be able to process mkv better?
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It has nothing to do with Tegra 2. Samsung's Galaxy S series are using Hummingbird and can fully decode 720p. It's all software and codecs.

You could always just convert your move to mp4, I've done it to loads of HD movies (LOTR and such) and they run great, even streaming through to the TV via HDMI.
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well mkv works the best in dice player atm. hopefully they can optimize it for tegra.

DICE Player is the answer to your problem concerning MKVs. Give it a try, the developer is VERY active on the XDA forums especially in the Transformer forum.
Converting something to another format is unacceptable in the hardware that we're getting. And honestly, it's a waste of time to convert. Just get DICE Player and you won't ever have to convert again.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16224858#
Go there. The developer is actively talking in that thread. Another new version was released today to fix some problems with subtitles and multiple audio streams in a single MKV. Honestly, it's the best player and well worth the $4US to the dev.

MX player is the best the guy above ^ is 100% right.

Mkv/720p or above movies

Hello, playing with my new toy. Have a DHD and quite experienced with rooting etc.
Im currently having some lag issues with mkv and or 720p or above movies. Tried mobo player and the normal one.
Currently have the revolver rom, feels quite good i like the update app which came with it. Going to try revHD rom later tonight to see if there is any improvements.
Whats a recomended video player or rom for movie stuff? Answers on a postcard, Thanks!
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Paid: Dice Player
Free: MX Video Player
Also, hd video is really difficult for the Tegra 2 that barely handles 720p. You can have 1080p, and smooth, but it will most likely need to be re-encoded so that the hardware will like it... you might want to try to overclock, often that solves the issue, even if not always.
If you go for the re-encode way, use h264 basic profile, that's the biggest deal.

Thats really a bummer since i thought the tegra 2 is well capable to display atleast 720p mkv videos having a hd screen. Is it the tegra Architektur which doesnt play nicely with hd mkv material or just software related?
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Really? The mkv videos I downloaded the other day works just fine.. but I guess it could be because I'm overclocking? I mean, it was 720 p and it was working way smoooth with Mobo so I don't know where your complaints come frmo..

It has to do with the type of encoding. You can get 1080p to play if you encode it right

just tried a 720p clip and it does play smoothly with HW encoding but can not play the sound back. Is it because of the sound track being dts 7.1 ch?
How long takes to convert a video with handbrake?
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Don't reencode the videos. Use a MKV -> MP4 Tool to reencode the audiostream to aac. It's way faster.

Have a look at my tests http://painfullyrandom.blogspot.com/2011/08/testing-android-video-decoding.html and/or search here on XDA for Tegra hd video. Sadly it's not the best choice for video play... It works but it's far from optimal.
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I've said it before, I'll say it again. Try Diceplayer. The only reason it won't playback ANY file well, is because the bit-rate is too high for Tegra 2. All the videos I download are 720P h264 and it plays them just fine. The only time it struggles is when there is fast panning (which results in a higher bitrate if it's a variable bitrate). All things said, I have no issues playing any videos, even those with 7.1 channel audio.
Also, use the search function. This is discussed at length in a few other threads in the transformer forums. I think it was specifically in the Themes/Apps forum.

darkhawkff said:
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Try Diceplayer. The only reason it won't playback ANY file well, is because the bit-rate is too high for Tegra 2. All the videos I download are 720P h264 and it plays them just fine. The only time it struggles is when there is fast panning (which results in a higher bitrate if it's a variable bitrate). All things said, I have no issues playing any videos, even those with 7.1 channel audio.
Also, use the search function. This is discussed at length in a few other threads in the transformer forums. I think it was specifically in the Themes/Apps forum.
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yes, Dice Player is the best so far. Playing videos is a hit / miss with the rest of the free players...

Paran0idAndr0id said:
just tried a 720p clip and it does play smoothly with HW encoding but can not play the sound back. Is it because of the sound track being dts 7.1 ch?
How long takes to convert a video with handbrake?
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same here but the audio is "only" AC3 5.1 the video is super smooth but there is no sound.

I don't know where you get your files, but I'm almost sure I don't want to go to that site.
Example:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/420077/Indiana Jones 4_HD 1080base.mp4
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/420077/Indiana Jones 4_HD 720main.mp4
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/420077/Indiana Jones 4_HD 480high.mp4
those are a few seconds from the trailer of Indiana Jones and the crystal skull grabbed from the PSN "some time" ago. Play them at 1ghz on the Transformer with Dice (or whatever you want), and see what works well... I encoded this stuff in a way that shows my point. Same bitrate for all of them.
The original file is main profile, full hd and slightly higher bitrate. Still plays at 1ghz.
Keep in mind that if you make the file hard to decode, the size could be quite small, once I've watched a reasonably good dvd rip that was 250mb. That's the whole point of h264 vs divx, same quality, smaller file. Or same size better quality, depending on your point of view

I just tried the dice player and it plays the test file without problems being 720p mkv. I think Asus should had intergrated such a mdiaplayer by default
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choppy 1080p flash video playback on ARHD ICS

Hi guys,
I am currently using Android Revolution HD 6.5.1 XE on my Sensation and I have several major problems:
1. I realize that 1080p mkv videos that my phone can play smoothly on Gingerbread (including Youtube HD 1080p) now become laggy. Even with SD videos (fully HW accelerated), sometimes the playback is choppy as well (I use MX player and Dice player). Can anyone help me confirm whether you have the same problems? I believe ARHD ICS does not have GPU overclocked as on Gingerbread, hence the choppy video playback.
2. On random occasions, I cannot get any sound on any applications, but notification sounds and stock music player are working normally. I can still listen to music through the stock player but cannot get any sound for videos. Everything will return to normal when I restart the phone.
3. Wifi randomly turns on by itself. The last time I check, this problem seems to be unsolved, but I may be wrong.
Any kind souls willing to give me some directions to solve the above problems? ARHD Gingerbread ROM does not have any of the problems above, but I don't want to go back to Gingerbread.

Bump, still waiting...

Imo bad flash, I never had those problems. Video playback even on flash has been buttery-smooth.
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And yes talking 1080p video.
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Yes, ARHD ICS does not have GPU overclocked. But that shouldn't be the reason for your video playback problem. Because of your other problems I also believe in a bad flash...Try a reinstall.

Bad Flash or using a wrong kernel.

I have tried flashing the ROM 3 times (also redownload the ROM, check md5), with both stock kernel and Sebastian's kernel (at 1.2, 1.5, 1.7 Ghz) and the video playback is still quite bad. I just flash the latest 6.5.2 on my Sensation and it is still the same problem with video playback. Just to confirm, can you guys watch 1080p youtube hd video without any problems?
The playback problem disappear straight away when I go back to GB.

Like I said, yes, I can. In both the app and on Browser with flash player.
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Video Choppy
Hey man, in MX player, are you hardware accelerating or software accelerating?
I noticed that HW accl is laggy, buy software accl is smooth

haq.abdul said:
Hey man, in MX player, are you hardware accelerating or software accelerating?
I noticed that HW accl is laggy, buy software accl is smooth
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Yes, I am sure that I play my videos with hardware acceleration, and about your observation, I beg to differ. The way I understand it is like this: with hardware acceleration, the task of video playback is offloaded to the GPU, hence better rendering, frame rate and better battery performance. If you use software rendering, the whole task is given to the CPU, which will need to run at full speed to decode, and there is no guarantee that it plays smoothly. For instance, on my Sensation, without hardware acceleration, 1080p videos are impossible to play.
I am still trying every possible solution to my video playback problem. Yesterday I also tried Sebastian's latest kernel, with GPU overclocked, the frame rate is getting better, but it is still not on par with Gingerbread's performance.
Any other suggestions?

I think my description was not clear enough. The correct word for my situation is actually micro-stuttering, it is similar to situations when you are playing computer games with either nVidia SLI or ATI Crossfire.

I officially give up, don't really know how to solve the problem now.

why dont you try flashing another rom?
you keep saying its ARHD fault so flash something else and see?

Even i am facing this problem on my XE. mkv high bit rate videos ( more than 10mbps) are having micro stuttering. Hell even 720p hight bitrate videos. I am coming from galaxy S2 and these high bitrate videos used to play buttery smooth. Cant adreno 220 handle 720p videos? this is shame. i can say 1080p mp4 videos are playing fine though.

astarman said:
why dont you try flashing another rom?
you keep saying its ARHD fault so flash something else and see?
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I will try other ROMs when I have enough free time, but someone told me that it is the same problem for all ICS ROM on the Sensation.

nickporwal said:
Even i am facing this problem on my XE. mkv high bit rate videos ( more than 10mbps) are having micro stuttering. Hell even 720p hight bitrate videos. I am coming from galaxy S2 and these high bitrate videos used to play buttery smooth. Cant adreno 220 handle 720p videos? this is shame. i can say 1080p mp4 videos are playing fine though.
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I just want to clarify with you: there is no problem with video playback on Gingerbread, only on ICS that the problem occurs, so it really ROM-dependent, you may want to give ARHD 4.1.13 a try instead of those latest ICS ROMs. Having said that, it is a known fact that Mali-400 MP has much higher performance than Adreno 220, even in terms of graphics and video playback. I think h.264 high profile videos with higher than 10mbps is too much the Sensation, it is a hardware limitation after all. If you want to watch any videos without problem, the ASUS Transformer Prime is the only choice.

Just for curiosity - why bother playing a 1080p file on a device with a (much) lower native res?

ymirsson said:
Just for curiosity - why bother playing a 1080p file on a device with a (much) lower native res?
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There are two important reasons:
1. There is no need for conversion. I can use the same files for my laptop and my phone.
2. Quality: It is all about the video quality, you just have to see it to believe, it is just like day and night. You can put 2 youtube videos with SD quality (say 480p) and full HD quality (1080p) on your phones (in this case, the Sensation) and compare them side-by-side. Image quality, colors, details are much better on full HD and the differences are obvious, regardless of your phone's native resolution. In a sense, it can be comparable to your laptop situation: should I buy a Blu-ray movie to watch on my 720p screen laptop? If you have watched Blu-ray movies before, you definitely will know the answer.

huy_lonewolf said:
There are two important reasons:
1. There is no need for conversion. I can use the same files for my laptop and my phone.
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Understandable, even though cheap storage and batched rips minimalize the effort.
huy_lonewolf said:
2. Quality: It is all about the video quality, you just have to see it to believe, it is just like day and night.[..]
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Yeah, because you compare apples and oranges.
Obviously a downscaled 1080p looks better than an upscaled 480p.
Also, the used color space is not bound to the resolution.
And yes, a BR will look better on your 720p screen. Obviously. DVDs are 576 mpeg-2 encoded ^^
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If you have watched Blu-ray movies before, you definitely will know the answer.
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I have, and i agree. But one should think trough why, and when it makes sense.
No offense, one should do whatever he wants to do.
I (but that may be me) would rather have a 540 movie with high bitrate than a 1080p with a lousy one, just to say "hey, it's HD"

huy_lonewolf said:
Hi guys,
I am currently using Android Revolution HD 6.5.1 XE on my Sensation and I have several major problems:
1. I realize that 1080p mkv videos that my phone can play smoothly on Gingerbread (including Youtube HD 1080p) now become laggy. Even with SD videos (fully HW accelerated), sometimes the playback is choppy as well (I use MX player and Dice player). Can anyone help me confirm whether you have the same problems? I believe ARHD ICS does not have GPU overclocked as on Gingerbread, hence the choppy video playback.
2. On random occasions, I cannot get any sound on any applications, but notification sounds and stock music player are working normally. I can still listen to music through the stock player but cannot get any sound for videos. Everything will return to normal when I restart the phone.
3. Wifi randomly turns on by itself. The last time I check, this problem seems to be unsolved, but I may be wrong.
Any kind souls willing to give me some directions to solve the above problems? ARHD Gingerbread ROM does not have any of the problems above, but I don't want to go back to Gingerbread.
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Did u try stock ICS ROM?

720p Video Quality

I'm trying to decide between the TF300 & TF700. I'm definitely going to watch a lot of videos (it's my primary purpose for buying a table). I'm hoping someone could help me out with something. This would be my first tablet.
On my Windows Desktop, I have a 27" monitor and my resolution is also 1980x1200. 1080p stuff looks great. But, when I play a 720p video in full screen mode, there is a very noticeable loss in clarity.
I also have a portable blu-ray player (10.1" display; 1024x600 res.). It downscales both 1080p & 720p videos. However, reducing the video's size doesn't appear to affect the quality. It still looks awesome.
Two questions:
1. Since the TF700 has a 1980x1200 display, does anyone know if there would be a noticeable quality loss when upscaling a 720p so that it fits on the entire display?
2. On the TF700, would it be possible to temporarily change the settings to a lower resolution when I want to watch a 720p video (something like 1280x800)?

I can see a difference while watching the same series episode in 720p and in 1080p on my Infinity, but I notice it much more on my 21,5" LCD. Anyway, the difference is not huge, I still intend to download mainly 720p movies, but you should probably see it yourself, as these things tend to be very user-dependent. Just go to some store with the Infinity on the shelf and try 1) watching YouTube videos in 720p and 1080p, 2) take microSD card with you, install BSPlayer Free and try watching some .mkv files prepared in advance (hope they won't bite you for that or won't cover the slot). You can format the card in exFAT.
And no, you can not change the resolution on your Infinity, it's just not how things work here.

What video apps are you using? Playing mkvs with Google Video Player and MX Player I have perfect picture but no audio, while using VLC I have audio but the video is spoiled, at least at 1080p...

Its strange... many of my 720p mkv´s wont play anymore on my tf700 with dice-player.
On my tf201... no probs.
For me... the picture looks better - the colors are much better now, but i see a differnce due to the upscaling between the Full-HD and the native res. of the TF201 when watching HD-Videos (720p).

Try BSPlayer Free, guys. Just remember to use H/W rendering (it has its own engine).
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d14b0ll0s said:
Try BSPlayer Free, guys. Just remember to use H/W rendering (it has its own engine).
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whats the diff. between the free and paid version?
Can i access my nas-server over smb/ftp etc. on it?
THX

Don't know, read the description in Google Play.
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Super-S said:
whats the diff. between the free and paid version?
Can i access my nas-server over smb/ftp etc. on it?
THX
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You can access your nas either way free or paid, paid just gets rid of the annoying ads.

thongaxp said:
You can access your nas either way free or paid, paid just gets rid of the annoying ads.
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So should AdAway.

Try this with diceplayer 2.0.8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769799