Wondering if anyone has a solution here, AVI and MKV have issues playing. The MKVs are 720p HD tv shows, and the audio is great, but the video is choppy\slow-mo. Has anyone managed to find a player or a method to resolve this? I know this has been discussed in other forums, but related to different phones, so curious if there's a specific fix to this phone, or if a 720p is just too much for the Inspire 4G to handle. I wouldn't think so since last year's iPhone 3G and 3GS and 4 can handle it just fine.... I'm thinking something is wrong or I'm using the wrong app.
I don't think the stock video player can do it, so you'll have to try some third party apps like VPlayer, RockPlayer, and Act 1. Let us know if any of those three get the job done. I'm curious too. Otherwise we may need to convert videos.
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I don't think the stock video player can do it, so you'll have to try some third party apps like VPlayer, RockPlayer, and Act 1. Let us know if any of those three get the job done. I'm curious too. Otherwise we may need to convert videos.
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VPlayer - Same
RockPlayer - Same
Act 1 - Same
None of these seem to work. I wonder if it's the way my videos are encoded? I sure hope not, because all the MKV files I download from the torrents of tv shows I miss are formatted the same way. They always played fine on iPhone
Anyone else experience this issue and find a resolution?
Thanks!
maybe the class of your SD Card, for anything above 720p a class 6 card is needed
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maybe the class of your SD Card, for anything above 720p a class 6 card is needed
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Oh really? I don't see any Class 6 or higher on Amazon. Mine is a class 4. Can the Inspire 4G even benefit from class 6? I'm able to watch them off the memory card on my class 4 when plugged into my computer just fine.
the desire hd can support all class cards including class 10, so i cant see why the inspire cant either.
Yea class 4 should be ok i would think? Have you tried different size files?
Is anybody else having trouble like this ?
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the desire hd can support all class cards including class 10, so i cant see why the inspire cant either.
Yea class 4 should be ok i would think? Have you tried different size files?
Is anybody else having trouble like this ?
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I have 2 inspire 4g devices, and have tried both a Class 2 and a Class 4 card. I ordered a Class 10 from Amazon (they only had up to 16gb, not the 32GB like my class 4), so I'll report back tomorrow when it arrives.
The file I'm using is a 1.09GB MKV file.
I have yet to purchase the Inspire and this problem is one of the reasons that I am waiting. FWIW I have read many complaints from users having this problem.
I have the same issue
It happens on G1, Streak and Inspire. However, cheap Archos doesn't this issue. Isn't that ironic? I was trying to copy the Archos player but no success...
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It happens on G1, Streak and Inspire. However, cheap Archos doesn't this issue. Isn't that ironic? I was trying to copy the Archos player but no success...
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Clearly it's either the way my video is encoded, or the lack of proper decoder on the android. I am at the end of my rope trying to resolve. I didn't like my iPhone because it's incompatibilities, and everyone with Android said "get an Android cause it'll decode anything" ... lol... wonder if we'll ever have a solution to decode a mkv properly.
You do realize that your phone is only capable of show video resolution up to 400p? MKV is mostly used for HD rips because it ends up having the best quality after compression, but your phone is not HD in the sense that it is over a standard definition television vertical wise (watching it in wide screen format).
Anything bigger will have to be scaled down by the player, sucking up battery life and you wont notice a quality difference. Aside from that, forcing your device to play something higher res will suck the battery life as well because it will be more intensive on the cpu. Why dont you just use xvid rips in avi format? Everything that's ripped in mkv is always ripped in xvid as well.
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You do realize that your phone is only capable of show video resolution up to 400p? MKV is mostly used for HD rips because it ends up having the best quality after compression, but your phone is not HD in the sense that it is over a standard definition television vertical wise (watching it in wide screen format).
Anything bigger will have to be scaled down by the player, sucking up battery life and you wont notice a quality difference. Aside from that, forcing your device to play something higher res will suck the battery life as well because it will be more intensive on the cpu. Why dont you just use xvid rips in avi format? Everything that's ripped in mkv is always ripped in xvid as well.
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Yeah that's what I'm going to do is just rework the files. Any suggestion on an easy program for MAC to convert MKV to avi?
Thank you much!
I am using avi format xvid and it still can't play anything in hd. My captivate plays the same files fine wtf.
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Nevermind vplayer works for xvid avis I wonder why the stock player won't play any of them....
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Nevermind vplayer works for xvid avis I wonder why the stock player won't play any of them....
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Yeah, the processing power is certainly there so I guess it's just an issue of improper codec execution :-(
Not sure on a player to watch them on android. I would just go through the top ones on the market place and do trial and error
I dont have a computer with osx on it currently, but VLC (the PC/OSX version) does convert file formats as well and it's free.
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Not sure on a player to watch them on android. I would just go through the top ones on the market place and do trial and error
I dont have a computer with osx on it currently, but VLC (the PC/OSX version) does convert file formats as well and it's free.
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Yeah none worked. I think it's just the issue of the MKV file. They don't work on iPhone with any of the players either, I think it just takes more power and video processing to handle them.
Try xyflash, i used this on iphone. Android market has it also so i tried it. It plays 720p mkv bleach videos and sub titles work using mkv sub extractor. Not the best but it does the job i think
Did you guys try lower resolution files but coded in mkv?
Will the Atrix be capable of running 720p mkv files?
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Try xyflash, i used this on iphone. Android market has it also so i tried it. It plays 720p mkv bleach videos and sub titles work using mkv sub extractor. Not the best but it does the job i think
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I don't even see an app by that name on the market. You realize that not everything for iPhone is for android, and vice versa, right?
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AT&T has posted a new spec sheet on the Captivate here.
Couple of things stood out in contrast to information (speculation?) that has been posted on this forum and elsewhere, so wanted to mention them and see if any of the early purchasers can check and confirm.
Wi-Fi (WLAN)
Wi-Fi (WLAN) enabled YES
WLAN support 802.11g
WLAN security methods WEP, PSK, EAP, & WPA
Multimedia capabilities
NOTE: The storage capacity is limited by the remaining flash memory and expandable memory.
Audio/Graphic/Video Multimedia Messaging (MMS) Size Limit 300KB
Audio Player YES
Audio Formats SP Midi, Standard MIDI, WAV, MP3
Graphic Formats GIF87a, GIF89, PNG, WBMP & JPG
Video Player YES
Video Formats MPEG4 Part 2 Simple Profile, H.263 (.avi, .mov, .3gp, .mp4)
Memory
Flash (device) Memory 16 GB flash memory
Expandable Memory Supports MicroSD cards with up to 16GB of memory
I point these out since some people have assumed that the base specs of the SGS were carried over to the Captivate (e.g., 802.11n, FLAC support, max 32GB MicroSD cards supported). Has anyone checked these on their phones yet?
Yea, those specs are missing quite a few things.
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Yea, those specs are missing quite a few things.
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Missing a few things that are actually on the device, or the device is missing quite a few things?
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Samsung-Captivate-phone-pa_4676.html
Also missing some of the supported media codecs like Xvid & Mkv
This is really upsetting.
This is android is not IOS4.... the N wifi protocol can be unlock with a custom kernel, Xvid can be played using rock player form the market, and about the 16gb SD limit, all manufactures say that but the SD controllers always support the max GB available wich is 32gb, so nothing to be worried about.
IMHO Rockplayer sucks , its only software solution can only playback low bitrate under 1000kbs, player in Galaxy S can playback High profile h264 30fps no problem with real hardware acceleration .
In contrast rockplayer will get you ~5fps, atleast on Nexus one it sucks.
Anyway back on topic , if AT&T crippled Captivate to this extend its really sad for media enthusiast like me. I can only hope they posted basic spec for Android in general. As samsung phones should come with mkv,xvid ect. and NEON hardware acceleration.
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This is android is not IOS4.... the N wifi protocol can be unlock with a custom kernel, Xvid can be played using rock player form the market, and about the 16gb SD limit, all manufactures say that but the SD controllers always support the max GB available wich is 32gb, so nothing to be worried about.
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so are you saying we will be able to have a max of 48gigs? 16gigs onboard and then 32gig SD card?
Not even AAC? Thats BS. I was about to buy this phone tomorrow. Now after see ing all this gimping just to make sure its not better than the iphone 4 on paper, I'm not so sure. I might go to sprint for the epic like I was originally thinking.
I'm hoping someone will stuff a 32GB mSDHC into a Captivate and see whether it's fully addressable. Ditto the wi-fi radio for 802.11n capability (I find it odd that none of the dozen or so reviewers have commented on that). Any takers???
It's quite possible even AT&T's spec sheet is incorrect (and it won't be the first time recently they've screwed up...).
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Not even AAC? Thats BS. I was about to buy this phone tomorrow. Now after see ing all this gimping just to make sure its not better than the iphone 4 on paper, I'm not so sure. I might go to sprint for the epic like I was originally thinking.
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Now here's what AT&T lists under the browser functionality:
File Formats Supported 3.0 (A2DP / AVRCP / DUN / HFP / HSP / OPP / SPP/ MP3 / AAC / AAC+ / eAAC+ / WMA / DivX / MPEG-4 / H.263 / WMV3 / YouTube / GIF87a / GIF89 / PNG / WBMP / JPG)
Seems to me a browser wouldn't be able to support all those formats without the accompanying codecs available via the OS. Again, someone needs to run a set of comprehensive tests on this device -- not the Reader's Digest-style technical evaluations we've seen up until now.
I'm fine with no wireless-n, it eats battery too quickly, but Xvid? CMON NOW!! Anyone can confirm this???
I was able to play an Xvid avi no problem.
Has anyone tried playing a FLAC file yet?
Well I can definitely tell you tomorrow, I did watch h264 on it in the store, as for wireless N I'll know tomorrow.
I remember when they posted the Aria specs those were incorrect as well... Lets not jump to conclusions.
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I was able to play an Xvid avi no problem.
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Thanks for the update. I was hoping it was just at&t's lazy spec writing. They do it with most of their phones.
do you have any *mkv files you could try?
I just tried a FLAC file as well... Played just fine.
Just watched an mkv 720p episode of the office on rockplayer ARMv7
It worked surprisingly well. Not perfect but with some optimizations it could be flawless. Maybe if there is ever an armv8 version (what the hummingbird is) that would be all it would take
So far the cpu power of this thing has exceeded my expectations
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Just watched an mkv 720p episode of the office on rockplayer ARMv7
It worked surprisingly well. Not perfect but with some optimizations it could be flawless. Maybe if there is ever an armv8 version (what the hummingbird is) that would be all it would take
So far the cpu power of this thing has exceeded my expectations
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Can you try playing mkv with captivate ,with its default player not third party ?
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Just watched an mkv 720p episode of the office on rockplayer ARMv7
It worked surprisingly well. Not perfect but with some optimizations it could be flawless. Maybe if there is ever an armv8 version (what the hummingbird is) that would be all it would take
So far the cpu power of this thing has exceeded my expectations
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Did you try an MKV with the default player to see if there really is lack of support on the captivate or if at&t is pulling some bs?
Can Xoom play .mkv video files?
I have a lot of 720p .mkv movies. I was wondering if I can watch 720p .mkv movies on the Xoom.
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Can Xoom play .mkv video files?
I have a lot of 720p .mkv movies. I was wondering if I can watch 720p .mkv movies on the Xoom.
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i doubt the native player can but i wouldnt be surprised to see some to some support for it later in the app market. most players out of box dont support mkv i believe
http://androidforums.com/android-applications/221011-app-play-avi-mkv-files.html
Rockplayer, arcMedia, VPlayer, yxplayer just to name a few.
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I just tested Rockplayer and yxplayer on my CM7 Galaxy S and I can play my avi's now. It COULD work on honeycomb.
Prob not....
I doubt that the xoom will be able to play .mkv files right out of the box. But Im sure that there are other players in the market that will be able to. I used to have an iPad (but sold it to get the xoom) and that was one of my main problems, not being able to play .mkv, but the VLC app worked perfectly for me, the only problem was that the iPad wasn't powerful enough to run a 720p or an 1080p .mkv file. Kept lagging and the audio was out of sync. Hopefull with the tegra 2 processor and the 1080p support the xoom will be able to play my files.
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http://androidforums.com/android-applications/221011-app-play-avi-mkv-files.html
I just tested Rockplayer and yxplayer on my CM7 Galaxy S and I can play my avi's now. It COULD work on honeycomb.
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I tested all of them on Dell Streak 5, Nexus One and Inspire 4G, they can play but with lags. Ironically, the cheap Archos can play the same file fine. Go figure.
just make sure theyre not more than 4gbs. damn android file size limitation.
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http://androidforums.com/android-applications/221011-app-play-avi-mkv-files.html
I just tested Rockplayer and yxplayer on my CM7 Galaxy S and I can play my avi's now. It COULD work on honeycomb.
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Galaxy S has native Divx support and can play AVI and MKV through the built in video player. No need for any third party players. I doubt the Xoom will have divx certification, but it certainly should be able to decode 720P MKV files using a software solution through Rockplayer.
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I tested all of them on Dell Streak 5, Nexus One and Inspire 4G, they can play but with lags. Ironically, the cheap Archos can play the same file fine. Go figure.
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none of these have dual core either so the xoom will be able to handle high def mkvs, we probably just have to wait for a player that take advantage of dual core to smooth out playback.
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none of these have dual core either so the xoom will be able to handle high def mkvs, we probably just have to wait for a player that take advantage of dual core to smooth out playback.
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I don't think it has anything to do with CPU as Archos doesn't have that issue (although it has many other issues)...
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just make sure theyre not more than 4gbs. damn android file size limitation.
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what does it use FAT32??
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Galaxy S has native Divx support and can play AVI and MKV through the built in video player. No need for any third party players. I doubt the Xoom will have divx certification, but it certainly should be able to decode 720P MKV files using a software solution through Rockplayer.
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Not if you are running CM7 (as I stated in my post). CM7 = AOSP based.
OR u can use Handbrake to help u convert mkv to mp4 for playback on your xoom
Beware, that's not true. Xoom has limitation for what kind of video files it can play:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/45753?tstart=0
This has been discussed many times, all the forum threads are still alive.
You can search and join the talk.
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I doubt that the xoom will be able to play .mkv files right out of the box. But Im sure that there are other players in the market that will be able to. I used to have an iPad (but sold it to get the xoom) and that was one of my main problems, not being able to play .mkv, but the VLC app worked perfectly for me, the only problem was that the iPad wasn't powerful enough to run a 720p or an 1080p .mkv file. Kept lagging and the audio was out of sync. Hopefull with the tegra 2 processor and the 1080p support the xoom will be able to play my files.
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none of these have dual core either so the xoom will be able to handle high def mkvs, we probably just have to wait for a player that take advantage of dual core to smooth out playback.
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But it will still be limited by the FAT32 file system. You can't play full length 1080p simply because the files are too big.
please stop spreading this nonsense. its not true. this is a horrible false news being spread way to much. i just dont get people.
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But it will still be limited by the FAT32 file system. You can't play full length 1080p simply because the files are too big.
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Isn't the whole 32Gb formated in EXT4? Why would there me any use of FAT32!?
What nonsense?
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please stop spreading this nonsense. its not true. this is a horrible false news being spread way to much. i just dont get people.
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I tested all of them on Dell Streak 5, Nexus One and Inspire 4G, they can play but with lags. Ironically, the cheap Archos can play the same file fine. Go figure.
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my sentiments exactly, my Archos 101 can play every video file I thro w at it, I did purchase the $12 Cinema Plugin, the inability of the xoom to play some video files is what is keeping me from buying one, among other things
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Isn't the whole 32Gb formated in EXT4? Why would there me any use of FAT32!?
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Oh, I have an Evo and I think the file system on the SD card is FAT32. Can Windows 7 read EXT4?
Motorola's official word is to use <15MBps video on 720 and it will be fine.
Check the sticky faq here, it has the link to full Moto article.
Why are all my videos jerky? I've tried some of the guides out there for converting video, but they all look kinda jerky, regardless of the codec, and regardless which app I use to play. I even tried replacing the SD card with a faster class 10, and same result... anyone else have similar experience, and how did you resolve?
That's hard to say. I have some 720p mp4's on my Inspire that were converted with Xillisoft and they play great, which kind of surprised me coming from the Captivate, with its better graphics chip, that had some issues with the same videos.
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That's hard to say. I have some 720p mp4's on my Inspire that were converted with Xillisoft and they play great, which kind of surprised me coming from the Captivate, with its better graphics chip, that had some issues with the same videos.
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What settings and format you convert using?
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What settings and format you convert using?
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I believe that those videos were converted using the Apple TV H.264 720p preset, down-converted from a 1080p WMV source. I'm also using a Class 2 16GB Sd card...that Class 10 would be awesome.
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I believe that those videos were converted using the Apple TV H.264 720p preset, down-converted from a 1080p WMV source. I'm also using a Class 2 16GB Sd card...that Class 10 would be awesome.
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Nice... ended up using the handbrake Apple TV settings you recommended and it worked great, thank you!
it is a HUGE inconvenience and i was wondering if it will be ever possible to play and maybe even record hd movies on the NS? if not, i am really considering to go back to the captivate
Moboplayer? I use that for all my movies in random formats. Haven't tried HD movies yet however. Nexus S screen resolution isn't HD anyways.
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You wont be able to record at 720p it lacks the hardware
As for movies ever since 2.3.3 nexus s has been able to play 720p (x264) movies but still lack proper audio codecs so no sound hopefully more audio codecs get introduced in 2.4 update when ever that comes out but dont hold your breath
If you check in dev section there is a ROM in that includes new hardware codecs but the video player that is required is not 100%
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Moboplayer? I use that for all my movies in random formats. Haven't tried HD movies yet however. Nexus S screen resolution isn't HD anyways.
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exactly you haven't played high quality HD movies on your phone experience what we are talking about
also im pretty sure he is talking about hardware support Mobo or any other player does software only for the codecs that are not supported by the OS
And ask anyone who had or has a galaxy S image quality is outstanding
Also doesn't matter if the phone is not 720p you dont having to spend time properly converting
This is a big let down for me, its true a few media players can play via software decoding but the nexus s out the box has limited media support.
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You can try the hardware multi-codec thread in the dev section. You need to flash the customized ROM though, and install ho player from Market.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052318
I just recommend that you go back to your Captivate. I've had the Vibrant and sometimes I miss that my Nexus S doesn't have the hardware support to play other media files without converting, but I don't use it for media much so it wasn't a priority in the phone for me. Reading from your first post, it sounds like you use the phone a lot for watching media and somewhat use HD video recording. So that's why I recommend that you stay with the Captivate and perhaps wait for Galaxy S II if you're looking for an upgrade. Nothing can really beat the media capabilities that the Galaxy S offers.
What codec are you trying to play? I have HD videos on my Mac downloaded directly from YouTube. With no transcoding, they work fine on my Nexus S in the Gallery app using stock firmware.
H.264 has many different encoding profiles, and mobile devices (even the iPhone and iPad, along with scores of Android and Nokia devices) have limits on both the profile and the bit-rate that they can handle.
With regards to recording, the Nexus S does not do HD recording, and that's fine with me. If I want to record some video (which I do like 4-5 times a year), I'll whip out my Flip. You know why? Because recording video drains a lot of battery, and I need my Nexus S to last all day.
i have tested MKV @ 1080p playback the phone plays them without any problems my question to the everyone is dose it even matter because the phones resolution is only 800 x 480 whats the point what is everyone converting there HD content to and what is the best software recommended ? also which player offers the best Hardware decoding playing on the skyrocket
im doing straight mkv files their native everything.
the same ones i play on my computer i play on my phone.
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My phone trips up when playing 1080p stuff, especially from my Canon DSLR
What player are you guys using?
I was using the one that comes stock. I just flashed my phone to um, alien 4.
Just played one with the stock player that comes in alien 4.. i watched a 1080p southpark episode, no problems
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My phone trips up when playing 1080p stuff, especially from my Canon DSLR
What player are you guys using?
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MX player is awsome it supports HW playback which means it takes full advantage over the andrino 220 chipset . i have have had poor luck trying to find other players that play videos as well as that one the stock video player provided with the phone works good but can not decode all videos/sound
how are you guys putting files greater than 4gb on your memory card? all 1080p movies i have are like 10-12 gigs
all mine goes on a 32gb card
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all mine goes on a 32gb card
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i couldn't format my sd card to be ntfs so i can't put files larger than 4gb's on my sd card. can you?
i have a sandisk 32gb card
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i couldn't format my sd card to be ntfs so i can't put files larger than 4gb's on my sd card. can you?
i have a sandisk 32gb card
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hmm just looked at it and I'm fat32 also. I've only been playing tv shows and none of them are more then 3gb.
tokoam said:
MX player is awsome it supports HW playback which means it takes full advantage over the andrino 220 chipset . i have have had poor luck trying to find other players that play videos as well as that one the stock video player provided with the phone works good but can not decode all videos/sound
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+1 on MX Player.
The only player I know of that takes advantage of the multi-core processor.
mx player is good i like it as well. just wish we could format the cards ntfs