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[Q] HTC Desire S Wifi Drop Problem

Hi, may i ask you what is the solution for wifi connection dropping too easily/often problem on HTC desire S ?
I'm newby so could you please tell which rom to load or the utility to use?

djdigy5 said:
Hi, may i ask you what is the solution for wifi connection dropping too easily/often problem on HTC desire S ?
I'm newby so could you please tell which rom to load or the utility to use?
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Two solutions:
1) Don't hold the phone in landscape as problem is much worse when held like this..
2) Achieve S-OFF and install a custom ROM which should have a software fix.
If you need to know what S-OFF then you probably are S-ON. To see how to get S-OFF then use search within forum and google.
Look at other posts before creating a new thread......http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036357

i did a research on s-off but could'nt find any topic to show how to s-off the HTC Desire S.
Any resolution for that?

djdigy5 said:
i did a research on s-off but could'nt find any topic to show how to s-off the HTC Desire S.
Any resolution for that?
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There are two routes....
1) XTC Clip
this route invalidates your warranty...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076937&highlight=xtc
2) Software only method.....Although not released yet.....for our Device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136276

ben_pyett said:
There are two routes....
1) XTC Clip
this route invalidates your warranty...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076937&highlight=xtc
2) Software only method.....Although not released yet.....for our Device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136276
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Ah thank you so much.. Any clue when the software will be released? it worth to wait for the software thing right?

djdigy5 said:
Ah thank you so much.. Any clue when the software will be released? it worth to wait for the software thing right?
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No idea, I'm afraid. I'd also recommend that you don't ask that question in the thread as it will simply annoy the developers who are working on the solution as fast as they can.
It has been shown to work on the Desire S already, but isn't yet released. It's released for other devices which shows that its not vapour ware and is worth waiting for.
and yes I'd suggest waiting a fortnight to a month at least....before contemplating XTC
If I've provided you with assistance or help then please hit the THANKS button!

ben_pyett said:
No idea, I'm afraid. I'd also recommend that you don't ask that question in the thread as it will simply annoy the developers who are working on the solution as fast as they can.
It has been shown to work on the Desire S already, but isn't yet released. It's released for other devices which shows that its not vapour ware and is worth waiting for.
and yes I'd suggest waiting a fortnight to a month at least....before contemplating XTC
If I've provided you with assistance or help then please hit the THANKS button!
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Got it. is there any walktrough or a thread for noobs like me to see the whole process of installing a mod (ex: SAGA LBC MOD v0.5.2)
all i've learned till now is that i have to make the desire-S s-off and so?
what are the future steps to take? i'm very confused with rooting, radio images,clockworkmod recovery etc... What are all these stuff? ((
Thank you for your patience.

djdigy5 said:
Got it. is there any walktrough or a thread for noobs like me to see the whole process of installing a mod (ex: SAGA LBC MOD v0.5.2)
all i've learned till now is that i have to make the desire-S s-off and so?
what are the future steps to take? i'm very confused with rooting, radio images,clockworkmod recovery etc... What are all these stuff? ((
Thank you for your patience.
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there isn't one thread but dozens
Start with reading all the sticky threads in the android development section
Google clock work mod there are some good guides available
You shouldn't be in such a hurry, as you're weeks to wait until you're soff and therefore loads of time to research and read, this forum is a great place to start
This is my first android phone so we're all learning here
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA Premium App

[Q] what is custom ROMs?

hi htc desire s fans,
i just bought my device a month ago, and i got crazy when i saw the news that said that desire s will receive htc sense 3.0 and android 3.3.5,but i am sick of waiting, then i saw the guys here talking about installing thesis updates on there devices without waiting for the official update but i can't understand the steps they provide. so if any one can kindly explain in details how to install this updates or refer to a thread with the same topic will be great.
also a brief about the meaning of the custom ROM will be appropriated
thank you guys.

Well i have desire s and android at all one month too. From what i have learnt i can tell you in short: you must do S-off,root your phone and than flash new custom rom with new sence and android. Tutorials are here - forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186401
I am afraid i cant tell you more,because i am not expert on that,maybe somebody else could

thanks mmarekk11 for your help,
i hate reading but i have to, cuz this is the only way and it seems interesting

You should find all the answers here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186401
moh86fci said:
hi htc desire s fans,
i just bought my device a month ago, and i got crazy when i saw the news that said that desire s will receive htc sense 3.0 and android 3.3.5,but i am sick of waiting, then i saw the guys here talking about installing thesis updates on there devices without waiting for the official update but i can't understand the steps they provide. so if any one can kindly explain in details how to install this updates or refer to a thread with the same topic will be great.
also a brief about the meaning of the custom ROM will be appropriated
thank you guys.
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I am not so much advanced and that is why i want to ask if it is possible to do S-On after rootig and flashing new ROM - and of course root and custom ROM would stay. I want to know that for the case i fire eMMC chip on rooted device and in service i would want repair under warranty. You know maybe they just take a look at S-on and say warranty is ok.
So is it possible or is that a nonsence?

Custom rom explained as
Stock ROM
A stock ROM is the version of the phone's operating system that comes with your phone when you buy it.
Custom Rom
A custom ROM is a fully standalone version of the OS, including the kernel (which makes everything run), apps, services, etc - everything you need to operate the device, except it's customized by someone in some way.
So what does the "customized" part mean? Since Android is open source, developers are free to take stock ROMs, modify them, strip them of garbage, optimize them, add things, and pretty much do whatever their imagination and skills allow.

[Q] Replacing current ROM to ICS

Hello
I'm an owner of a Desire S with 2.3 Gingerbread Rom and I would like to upgrade it to 4.0 ICS.
I understood that HTC released only RUU update that requires booting my phone. I don't have the technical knowledge to do it, and I'm afraid to mess thing up.
HTC sense on android 2.3 doesn't support Hebrew and RTL text, so the networks in Israel aren't selling the device. I bought it from a private store, which booted it (I think) and installed its own ROM (it's actually just the same 2.3 HTC's ROM but with Hebrew and RTL support). So I wonder: if the phone is already been booted, will the installing procedure of the HTC official 4.0 ROM will be easier and won't require the complex process of booting?
What I'm actually asking is will I be able to do it myself without risks? Will it be simple as just installing something? If it is, please explain to me how to do it, from the basics, because I really have no knowledge at the subject.
Thanks you all from advance for your help!
p.s - sorry if I had some grammar mistakes.

Flashing RUU has been discussed just about a million times. Please bother searching.
If you can't find all the answers just by doing a simple search - you shouldn't be touching your phone. Otherwise you have good chances of ending up with a phone that doesn't boot, waiting for answers from the forum that might come - and might not. Because most of the people that are capable of answering these questions, got tired. I definitely did.
P.S. It's rooting, not booting.

Read the stickies...
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

Hello Desire People :)

As the title say Hello Desire People .
I have just changed my SE Xperia x10
to _>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
HTC Desire S.
1)_Ok so i obviously changed it becouse i liked its specs more, but as it is known specs are not all that matters so tell me what you think about this device and what i have gotten myself into, by getting one.
2)_I was with xda for over a year now with my x10, so i know basics (Such as what rom is, why y need to unlock bootloader, whats up with phone rooting , and generally all basics about flashing.) Please gimme some tips bout what Custom kitchenware you use to Flash whose fresh ROM's to your devises, and which rom would be best for starters (most stable compared to perfomance) (would be best ics if its complete on this device, couse its not on x10)
Please dont rage on me much couse i come with love. And i will be staying with this development section of Desire S for some time now

TeddyOFLove said:
As the title say Hello Desire People .
I have just changed my SE Xperia x10
to _>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
HTC Desire S.
1)_Ok so i obviously changed it becouse i liked its specs more, but as it is known specs are not all that matters so tell me what you think about this device and what i have gotten myself into, by getting one.
2)_I was with xda for over a year now with my x10, so i know basics (Such as what rom is, why y need to unlock bootloader, whats up with phone rooting , and generally all basics about flashing.) Please gimme some tips bout what Custom kitchenware you use to Flash whose fresh ROM's to your devises, and which rom would be best for starters (most stable compared to perfomance) (would be best ics if its complete on this device, couse its not on x10)
Please dont rage on me much couse i come with love. And i will be staying with this development section of Desire S for some time now
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Welcome :good: You need to read, read and read some more.
There are some great ROMs out there. If you want stability then stick with a GB-based one for the moment (Reaper for non-Sense and Endymion for Sense). If you want to be a bit more adventurous then try Fallout v5.0, based on the ICS RUU.
TO learn what you are doing - there are plenty of guides out there so make sure you read and understand exactly what you are doing and why before you risk doing anything to your phone.

Gratz on getting yourself the Ds, first if all!
1. First of all, by getting the mobile you just got into friendliest forum in xda!
2. And Secondly, before you start asking questions, there's some comprehensive guide about the specs, guides and tutorials, info, etc stickied in the general section
Edit : ah already see Simon has beat me to the welcoming committee

Vodka69er said:
Gratz on getting yourself the Ds, first if all!
1. First of all, by getting the mobile you just got into friendliest forum in xda!
2. And Secondly, before you start asking questions, there's some comprehensive guide about the specs, guides and tutorials, info, etc stickied in the general section
Edit : ah already see Simon has beat me to the welcoming committee
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Thx for kind words of welcome, and just so to let you know i am reading all the beginers guides (not done yet). And at the same time i saw that ICS is officially on this phone now. So i am trying to install it but as it seems i need adb drivers and i have some difficulty finding them on my windows8. I found some for windows 7 but is says unsuported os on win8
UPDATE: grabed my Moms laptop with win7 and started to install this official ICS, but i cant keep doing that every time i need to flash rom (mom would come and turn it off right in middle )

Welcome, see link in my signature for the INDEX thread that should hopefully contain links to all you seek.
I'll echo what is said above in read read and read some more
Enjoy and there is an OFF TOPIC thread for social chat etc
Sywepd form my DsereiS

Hello man)
ROM installed on my device is ICE_DS 5.0 with kernel Tweaked 7.1 (battery life is great!)
ROM on 4.0.4 version need update manualy.
p.s. its older to buy

hey there, welcome to the club! if you want great stability and also ICS experience, and don't want to experiment, you can also flash Ice Cream Saga v1. you get the latest HTC stock rom, rooted, with only the most basic tweaks. you can customise it if you wish with amidabudha's tweaked kernel or leave it as it is.

TeddyOFLove said:
As the title say Hello Desire People .
I have just changed my SE Xperia x10
to _>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
HTC Desire S.
1)_Ok so i obviously changed it becouse i liked its specs more, but as it is known specs are not all that matters so tell me what you think about this device and what i have gotten myself into, by getting one.
2)_I was with xda for over a year now with my x10, so i know basics (Such as what rom is, why y need to unlock bootloader, whats up with phone rooting , and generally all basics about flashing.) Please gimme some tips bout what Custom kitchenware you use to Flash whose fresh ROM's to your devises, and which rom would be best for starters (most stable compared to perfomance) (would be best ics if its complete on this device, couse its not on x10)
Please dont rage on me much couse i come with love. And i will be staying with this development section of Desire S for some time now
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i'd recomment this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1502508 for now as it is stable
and this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903496 in the near future after fixin some bugs (i hope)

kesh_33 said:
i'd recomment this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1502508 for now as it is stable
and this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903496 in the near future after fixin some bugs (i hope)
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Hi Kesh,
When you post a link, it gives you the option to change the text that appears 'above' the hyperlink . Well worth using the feature as it shows people exactly what you are linking to, rather than just the actual URL. :thumbup:

TeddyOFLove said:
As the title say Hello Desire People .
I have just changed my SE Xperia x10
to _>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
HTC Desire S.
1)_Ok so i obviously changed it becouse i liked its specs more, but as it is known specs are not all that matters so tell me what you think about this device and what i have gotten myself into, by getting one.
2)_I was with xda for over a year now with my x10, so i know basics (Such as what rom is, why y need to unlock bootloader, whats up with phone rooting , and generally all basics about flashing.) Please gimme some tips bout what Custom kitchenware you use to Flash whose fresh ROM's to your devises, and which rom would be best for starters (most stable compared to perfomance) (would be best ics if its complete on this device, couse its not on x10)
Please dont rage on me much couse i come with love. And i will be staying with this development section of Desire S for some time now
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hello, the desire s is a beautiful phone that will give you much satisfaction, I think that the best rom is the fallout 5 and ICE DS 5.0. But made ​​a little culture by reading the forum.

[Q] Updating my new Desire S

Hello,
First of all, thanks for this great forum, i'm new to android and being here is really helpful.
I've read some of the guides posted, still i'd like to have some tips and infos.
I'm from Italy and my Desire S is still working on Gingerbread (!). I would like to update the firmware, if not to Jelly Bean (since the custom one is still beta, but advise me here), at least to ICS, but i don't know the routine to follow (ROOT, then Flash one of the custom ROMS? Being in S-Off mode is needed i guess). Another thing i don't get is flashing radios..
Help would be really appreciated, THANKS.

There is nothing to tell you that you can't find by reading the stickies and understanding what to do.

SimonTS said:
There is nothing to tell you that you can't find by reading the stickies and understanding what to do.
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i know, im asking just because im new and not secure of the routine to follow. thanks anyway

el_d4rio said:
Hello,
First of all, thanks for this great forum, i'm new to android and being here is really helpful.
I've read some of the guides posted, still i'd like to have some tips and infos.
I'm from Italy and my Desire S is still working on Gingerbread (!). I would like to update the firmware, if not to Jelly Bean (since the custom one is still beta, but advise me here), at least to ICS, but i don't know the routine to follow (ROOT, then Flash one of the custom ROMS? Being in S-Off mode is needed i guess). Another thing i don't get is flashing radios..
Help would be really appreciated, THANKS.
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If you haven't messed with your phone, i.e. rooted it, flashed any fancy thirty party rom, etc, and the phone is running official HTC ROM and in the exact same state as you bought it, I'd suggest OTA and upgrade to official ICS since you are new to android. Go to setting - about phone then update from there.
If you'd like to try other ROMs then there's plenty guide in this forum already.

Imo official 4.0.4 is a bad idea.
1) It has bugs
2) hboot 2.02 cannot be downgraded without htcdev
Sent from my HTC Desire S

amidabuddha said:
Imo official 4.0.4 is a bad idea.
1) It has bugs
2) hboot 2.02 cannot be downgraded without htcdev
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My Desire S is new and "untouched". For what i had got, the official htc release is to be installed manually and has some issues, so I had thought a custom and more recent ROM would have been better.

el_d4rio said:
My Desire S is new and "untouched". For what i had got, the official htc release is to be installed manually and has some issues, so I had thought a custom and more recent ROM would have been better.
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Then use revolutionary (S-OFF) not unlock via htcdev.com, 4ext recovery and you are good to go
If you are on Sense 3 you will have to downgrade in order to use Revolutionary.io
And of course I concider the ROM in my signature as the best to date

amidabuddha said:
Then use revolutionary (S-OFF) not unlock via htcdev.com, 4ext recovery and you are good to go
If you are on Sense 3 you will have to downgrade in order to use Revolutionary.io
And of course I concider the ROM in my signature as the best to date
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Thanks, after revolutionary (i'm on sense 2) rooting? Is yours a JB ROM? Anyway, checking on updates from the phone, i got a client FOTA Update. Should i do it?

el_d4rio said:
Thanks, after revolutionary (i'm on sense 2) rooting? Is yours a JB ROM? Anyway, checking on updates from the phone, i got a client FOTA Update. Should i do it?
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If you are going custom better not use OTA
Revolutionary will install custom recovery so the next thing will be a backup of your stock ROM and installing the Rom.zip from the sdcard via the recovery. No rooting, because all custom ROMs are pre-rooted.
My ROM is ICS, there is no complete stable JB yet but once you have s-off you can try them all within minutes. And do not forget to sync/backup your data (contacts, etc) to Google or with some app from the Play Store. And read some guides before starting anything. I am just giving you directions not a tutorial
Sent from my HTC Desire S

amidabuddha said:
If you are going custom better not use OTA
Revolutionary will install custom recovery so the next thing will be a backup of your stock ROM and installing the Rom.zip from the sdcard via the recovery. No rooting, because all custom ROMs are pre-rooted.
My ROM is ICS, there is no complete stable JB yet but once you have s-off you can try them all within minutes. And do not forget to sync/backup your data (contacts, etc) to Google or with some app from the Play Store. And read some guides before starting anything. I am just giving you directions not a tutorial
Sent from my HTC Desire S
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So why do you "root"? Just to unlock the phone without touching the FW?
Going custom i guess it's the only way, because htc is not going to update anymore, so better learn how to.
Anyway THANKS A LOT, it's more clear now

el_d4rio said:
so why do you "root"? Just to unlock the phone without touching the FW?
Anyway THANKS A LOT, it's more clear now
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Yes you can root your current software (the stock one) if you need just root for an app or something specific without changing the software.
But going custom means to run Android and Sense version which you will never have officially. And they all come pre-rooted
Sent from my HTC Desire S

One last thing amida... What's the difference between the various Sense versions? Just the theme? Will it be updated along with the installation of a custom ROM?
THANKS AGAIN

el_d4rio said:
One last thing amida... What's the difference between the various Sense versions? Just the theme? Will it be updated along with the installation of a custom ROM?
THANKS AGAIN
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They have different versions, because they are ported from different devices and there are difference between them. Not only visual but also performance.
More info about each ROM you will find in the first post of its thread.
Sent from my HTC Desire S

hello amida, i'm starting to update now... so im gonna do: s-off, recovery, 4ext choosing one of the customs. Which step should i do an image of my stock ROM in (so i can go back if needed) and how? Can you also recommend me an application for my datas backup?
THANKS

el_d4rio said:
hello amida, i'm starting to update now... so im gonna do: s-off, recovery, 4ext choosing one of the customs. Which step should i do an image of my stock ROM in (so i can go back if needed) and how? Can you also recommend me an application for my datas backup?
THANKS
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The best app for applications and data backup is titanium backup. It also allows you to make a flashable update zip you can flash after installing a new rom
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun

jugg1es said:
The best app for applications and data backup is titanium backup. It also allows you to make a flashable update zip you can flash after installing a new rom
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
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Ok, and for saving an image of my stock ROM, just in case i need to go back?

Nandroid backup is a part of the recovery and not an app.
Start reading instead of asking, please. The procedure is covered a million times in a million places.
To the answering guys, (almost) off-topic:
I have a riddle for you, or actually, a somewhat sad observation to share and see your opinions. Since this thread is one of the examples for what I'm going to talk about, and it's useless anyway, I won't feel any remorse diverting it.
I've seen several threads during the last couple of weeks where a random noob got the best out of one of the knowledgeable members of the community - in this and other forums - and they helped him instead of sending him to read stuff that he was supposed to be reading to know the answer.
In absolutely all of those threads, noob questions continued and deteriorated to the most basic ones. There wasn't even one thread where the noob wouldn't continue with flood of basic FAQ-sort of questions.
I've wrote in a couple of them more or less what I wrote here - an unpleasant message to stop the flood of baby questions.
All of the noobs were offended.
All of the noobs actually searched and found their answer after that message, and stopped the flood (with a message that here, they were so great they actually found everything themselves).
It's kinda sad, don't you think? Quite a few times bad treatment seems the most efficient way to achieve the best results... Guess there's no miraculous other way I'm missing, or maybe there is?
(P.S. I'm also moderating a local motorcyclists forum, and keeping the same harsh line in technical sub-forum. Works 100% for >5 years already. But sometimes it gets you wondering about human nature...)

Jack_R1 said:
Nandroid backup is a part of the recovery and not an app.
Start reading instead of asking, please. The procedure is covered a million times in a million places.
To the answering guys, (almost) off-topic:
I have a riddle for you, or actually, a somewhat sad observation to share and see your opinions. Since this thread is one of the examples for what I'm going to talk about, and it's useless anyway, I won't feel any remorse diverting it.
I've seen several threads during the last couple of weeks where a random noob got the best out of one of the knowledgeable members of the community - in this and other forums - and they helped him instead of sending him to read stuff that he was supposed to be reading to know the answer.
In absolutely all of those threads, noob questions continued and deteriorated to the most basic ones. There wasn't even one thread where the noob wouldn't continue with flood of basic FAQ-sort of questions.
I've wrote in a couple of them more or less what I wrote here - an unpleasant message to stop the flood of baby questions.
All of the noobs were offended.
All of the noobs actually searched and found their answer after that message, and stopped the flood (with a message that here, they were so great they actually found everything themselves).
It's kinda sad, don't you think? Quite a few times bad treatment seems the most efficient way to achieve the best results... Guess there's no miraculous other way I'm missing, or maybe there is?
(P.S. I'm also moderating a local motorcyclists forum, and keeping the same harsh line in technical sub-forum. Works 100% for >5 years already. But sometimes it gets you wondering about human nature...)
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don't worry i'm not offended... i read most of the stuff and guides out here, not taking just a minute to post the thread and having everyhting done by someone else.. i just needed directions! Anyway, if you don't want this kinda stuff in the forum, just put it in the registration form, newbies not accepted, and the prolem is solved

There is another thing that's floating around
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA

yup