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[Q] New Sensation owner

Hello, I am a new HTC Sensation owner and it's my first Android phone too!
I am very excited with the device but, before I screw up something, I would like to know a bit more.
I know there is the possibility, for Android phones, to flash the ROM and install a new one with improved features.
It is something that I will do, I'm sure, but, as mentioned, I would like to be sure of what I do!
So, how can I back-up the current ROM, in order to restore everything as it was when I purchased the phone?
I know about an app called Titanium backup, but it seems that it requires root permission...
Can you help me?
Thank you in advance!

rive-noob said:
Hello, I am a new HTC Sensation owner and it's my first Android phone too!
I am very excited with the device but, before I screw up something, I would like to know a bit more.
I know there is the possibility, for Android phones, to flash the ROM and install a new one with improved features.
It is something that I will do, I'm sure, but, as mentioned, I would like to be sure of what I do!
So, how can I back-up the current ROM, in order to restore everything as it was when I purchased the phone?
I know about an app called Titanium backup, but it seems that it requires root permission...
Can you help me?
Thank you in advance!
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Htc sensation has a locked builder (S-On), you can't install custom roms yet till it is unlocked by HTC or hacked by developers. keep an eye out in the development section. When it is unlocked. Word will spread there,
Also there will be guides of how to root, s off back up etc. once it is unlocked
In the mean time. Have you tried rom manager from the market to backup. download it. Enjoy your sensation
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

Hi, before opening a thread do some research. If you did do some, you would have found an answer to your question in the Sensation Android development forum. There is a thread about someone who gotva Sensation with unlocked bootloader. Read in this thread as much as you can and please, on the top right of every single page of this forum is the SEARCH box. Use it extensively, you'll save yourself a lot of time.
f.
Sent from the Dark Side using Sith knowledge (and a SGS 2)

Yep and last but not least rive-noob, here is the information you were looking for regarding your first post . everything you need to know is there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
Welcome to XDA - DEVELOPERS

Indeed. Please use the search button before posting. All of your questions could have been answered.

[Q] what is custom ROMs?

hi htc desire s fans,
i just bought my device a month ago, and i got crazy when i saw the news that said that desire s will receive htc sense 3.0 and android 3.3.5,but i am sick of waiting, then i saw the guys here talking about installing thesis updates on there devices without waiting for the official update but i can't understand the steps they provide. so if any one can kindly explain in details how to install this updates or refer to a thread with the same topic will be great.
also a brief about the meaning of the custom ROM will be appropriated
thank you guys.

Well i have desire s and android at all one month too. From what i have learnt i can tell you in short: you must do S-off,root your phone and than flash new custom rom with new sence and android. Tutorials are here - forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186401
I am afraid i cant tell you more,because i am not expert on that,maybe somebody else could

thanks mmarekk11 for your help,
i hate reading but i have to, cuz this is the only way and it seems interesting

You should find all the answers here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186401
moh86fci said:
hi htc desire s fans,
i just bought my device a month ago, and i got crazy when i saw the news that said that desire s will receive htc sense 3.0 and android 3.3.5,but i am sick of waiting, then i saw the guys here talking about installing thesis updates on there devices without waiting for the official update but i can't understand the steps they provide. so if any one can kindly explain in details how to install this updates or refer to a thread with the same topic will be great.
also a brief about the meaning of the custom ROM will be appropriated
thank you guys.
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I am not so much advanced and that is why i want to ask if it is possible to do S-On after rootig and flashing new ROM - and of course root and custom ROM would stay. I want to know that for the case i fire eMMC chip on rooted device and in service i would want repair under warranty. You know maybe they just take a look at S-on and say warranty is ok.
So is it possible or is that a nonsence?

Custom rom explained as
Stock ROM
A stock ROM is the version of the phone's operating system that comes with your phone when you buy it.
Custom Rom
A custom ROM is a fully standalone version of the OS, including the kernel (which makes everything run), apps, services, etc - everything you need to operate the device, except it's customized by someone in some way.
So what does the "customized" part mean? Since Android is open source, developers are free to take stock ROMs, modify them, strip them of garbage, optimize them, add things, and pretty much do whatever their imagination and skills allow.

[Q] Is it possible to install MIUI on official 2.3.5 (Sense 3.5) update?

Hello,
first of all, sorry for being a noob, I hope this question wasn't asked anywhere else (I checked but couldn't find anything about it)
I bought the DS about 4 Months ago and really, I love it. Still, I would like to tweak it a little bit and give MIUI a try! BUT I'm reaaaally afraid of screwing my phone up! (I had a HTC Magic which I rooted and flashed several times but here it seems to be a totally different operation).
Here are my questions:
1) Is MIUI installable on UPDATED (Android 2.3.5 and Sense 3.5) HTC Desire S with OFFICIAL HTC OTA update yet?
2) Is it possible to backup my files and fallback to my old settings easily?
3) Is the battery life convincing on MIUI? (I feel great with 2 days of middle-intensity use.)
4) Could someone guide me through every different steps? There are so much links everywhere I dunno where to look and I'm afraid to miss important things etc. etc. This would really be so much appreciated and after that I could do a toppic (if needed) with every information concentrated for noobs like me ;-)
Thanks in advance!
Thomas
PS: sorry for my english!

1.MIUI is completely different rom and u can install whatever Sense rom u have.
2.yes.Use nandroid backup or Titanium backup for apps
3.battery life is good on miui.
4.for this one u need to use search.i'll just give u this link to start http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146601

Thanks a lot for that fast answer, iI'll take a look at that and come back if there are things I'm hesitating about!
Little question: I know it's a different rom, I meant, is it possible to S-Off and root Updated HTC Desire S and then Flahs MIUI yet? Considering it's been updated the official way ^^
EDIT:
Okay so, if I get it right: I need
1) to S-Off (if my updated device doesn't fit the conditions it should be refused on revolutionary website)
2) to ROOT (Gingerbreak or Superoneclick APKs)
3) Do I need to install a custom recovery? for example ClockWorkMod? (it's written in OUTDATED on the tutorial, is it a problem?)
4) Then I should be able to flash MIUI
Right?
Thanks a lot

Yep, you've got it
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

Thanks a lot!
I'd like to try rooting and flashing today but on Revolutionary page they say we need HTC Drivers for fastboot: they provide a download link which is dead, do you know where I can find them? To be sure not to download the wrong files?
EDIT: Files are back on, sorry!

Updated HTC Desire S is HBOOT 2.00.0002 which isn't supported by revolutionnary :-( can't root for now...

Then you need to downgrade first.
Sent from my Desire S using XDA App

Oh I think i'm starting to get it hehe
Is downgrading a simple operation or is it difficult? Shouldn't I wait for revolutionary to support my HBOOT? Will it take long? Sorry for being a noob but I really wanna do things well.
Thanks a lot for your answers!

its simple but please search and read all instructions.it takes 10 sec

Roger that !
Thanks a lot for your help !

I'm pretty sure that htcdev.com will be able to s-off your device. It's not listed in the official devices, but many people reported its working. It seems much easier, as you won't need to downgrade.

[Q] HOW TO REVERT TO GINGERBREAD FROM official ICS on AMAZE

Hi, i am a complete noob in this... so could someone please provide a step by step guide to revert back to gingerbread from ICS...i got the official update and i think my AMAZE doesnt have the hardware to handle it...its very slow now and i'd like to revert back to the gingerbread...so please..i have no clue whatsoever...i found some threads with regards to this but they were for someone with a little knowledge of these things and i was lost..help please

Can't offer specific downgrade help. Search of the forum or with Google should turn up something.
However, downgrading is not the answer. The Amaze hardware is certainly quite capable of running ICS very well. If not an official OTA would not have been released. And I've been running ICS on my Amaze since well before the OTA update with no problems at all. Runs very nice.
So...you need to identify the real problem. Could be a bad app or upgrade gone wrong - a number of things. Good place to start would be to see if something is hogging CPU cycles.
Registered Linux user #266531. Android user since v1.0.

Ics has a brick issue and it will require plenty of reading on the subject. You essentially would use pc odin to reflash the old software.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA

[Q] Updating my new Desire S

Hello,
First of all, thanks for this great forum, i'm new to android and being here is really helpful.
I've read some of the guides posted, still i'd like to have some tips and infos.
I'm from Italy and my Desire S is still working on Gingerbread (!). I would like to update the firmware, if not to Jelly Bean (since the custom one is still beta, but advise me here), at least to ICS, but i don't know the routine to follow (ROOT, then Flash one of the custom ROMS? Being in S-Off mode is needed i guess). Another thing i don't get is flashing radios..
Help would be really appreciated, THANKS.

There is nothing to tell you that you can't find by reading the stickies and understanding what to do.

SimonTS said:
There is nothing to tell you that you can't find by reading the stickies and understanding what to do.
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i know, im asking just because im new and not secure of the routine to follow. thanks anyway

el_d4rio said:
Hello,
First of all, thanks for this great forum, i'm new to android and being here is really helpful.
I've read some of the guides posted, still i'd like to have some tips and infos.
I'm from Italy and my Desire S is still working on Gingerbread (!). I would like to update the firmware, if not to Jelly Bean (since the custom one is still beta, but advise me here), at least to ICS, but i don't know the routine to follow (ROOT, then Flash one of the custom ROMS? Being in S-Off mode is needed i guess). Another thing i don't get is flashing radios..
Help would be really appreciated, THANKS.
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If you haven't messed with your phone, i.e. rooted it, flashed any fancy thirty party rom, etc, and the phone is running official HTC ROM and in the exact same state as you bought it, I'd suggest OTA and upgrade to official ICS since you are new to android. Go to setting - about phone then update from there.
If you'd like to try other ROMs then there's plenty guide in this forum already.

Imo official 4.0.4 is a bad idea.
1) It has bugs
2) hboot 2.02 cannot be downgraded without htcdev
Sent from my HTC Desire S

amidabuddha said:
Imo official 4.0.4 is a bad idea.
1) It has bugs
2) hboot 2.02 cannot be downgraded without htcdev
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My Desire S is new and "untouched". For what i had got, the official htc release is to be installed manually and has some issues, so I had thought a custom and more recent ROM would have been better.

el_d4rio said:
My Desire S is new and "untouched". For what i had got, the official htc release is to be installed manually and has some issues, so I had thought a custom and more recent ROM would have been better.
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Then use revolutionary (S-OFF) not unlock via htcdev.com, 4ext recovery and you are good to go
If you are on Sense 3 you will have to downgrade in order to use Revolutionary.io
And of course I concider the ROM in my signature as the best to date

amidabuddha said:
Then use revolutionary (S-OFF) not unlock via htcdev.com, 4ext recovery and you are good to go
If you are on Sense 3 you will have to downgrade in order to use Revolutionary.io
And of course I concider the ROM in my signature as the best to date
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Thanks, after revolutionary (i'm on sense 2) rooting? Is yours a JB ROM? Anyway, checking on updates from the phone, i got a client FOTA Update. Should i do it?

el_d4rio said:
Thanks, after revolutionary (i'm on sense 2) rooting? Is yours a JB ROM? Anyway, checking on updates from the phone, i got a client FOTA Update. Should i do it?
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If you are going custom better not use OTA
Revolutionary will install custom recovery so the next thing will be a backup of your stock ROM and installing the Rom.zip from the sdcard via the recovery. No rooting, because all custom ROMs are pre-rooted.
My ROM is ICS, there is no complete stable JB yet but once you have s-off you can try them all within minutes. And do not forget to sync/backup your data (contacts, etc) to Google or with some app from the Play Store. And read some guides before starting anything. I am just giving you directions not a tutorial
Sent from my HTC Desire S

amidabuddha said:
If you are going custom better not use OTA
Revolutionary will install custom recovery so the next thing will be a backup of your stock ROM and installing the Rom.zip from the sdcard via the recovery. No rooting, because all custom ROMs are pre-rooted.
My ROM is ICS, there is no complete stable JB yet but once you have s-off you can try them all within minutes. And do not forget to sync/backup your data (contacts, etc) to Google or with some app from the Play Store. And read some guides before starting anything. I am just giving you directions not a tutorial
Sent from my HTC Desire S
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So why do you "root"? Just to unlock the phone without touching the FW?
Going custom i guess it's the only way, because htc is not going to update anymore, so better learn how to.
Anyway THANKS A LOT, it's more clear now

el_d4rio said:
so why do you "root"? Just to unlock the phone without touching the FW?
Anyway THANKS A LOT, it's more clear now
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Yes you can root your current software (the stock one) if you need just root for an app or something specific without changing the software.
But going custom means to run Android and Sense version which you will never have officially. And they all come pre-rooted
Sent from my HTC Desire S

One last thing amida... What's the difference between the various Sense versions? Just the theme? Will it be updated along with the installation of a custom ROM?
THANKS AGAIN

el_d4rio said:
One last thing amida... What's the difference between the various Sense versions? Just the theme? Will it be updated along with the installation of a custom ROM?
THANKS AGAIN
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They have different versions, because they are ported from different devices and there are difference between them. Not only visual but also performance.
More info about each ROM you will find in the first post of its thread.
Sent from my HTC Desire S

hello amida, i'm starting to update now... so im gonna do: s-off, recovery, 4ext choosing one of the customs. Which step should i do an image of my stock ROM in (so i can go back if needed) and how? Can you also recommend me an application for my datas backup?
THANKS

el_d4rio said:
hello amida, i'm starting to update now... so im gonna do: s-off, recovery, 4ext choosing one of the customs. Which step should i do an image of my stock ROM in (so i can go back if needed) and how? Can you also recommend me an application for my datas backup?
THANKS
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The best app for applications and data backup is titanium backup. It also allows you to make a flashable update zip you can flash after installing a new rom
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun

jugg1es said:
The best app for applications and data backup is titanium backup. It also allows you to make a flashable update zip you can flash after installing a new rom
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
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Ok, and for saving an image of my stock ROM, just in case i need to go back?

Nandroid backup is a part of the recovery and not an app.
Start reading instead of asking, please. The procedure is covered a million times in a million places.
To the answering guys, (almost) off-topic:
I have a riddle for you, or actually, a somewhat sad observation to share and see your opinions. Since this thread is one of the examples for what I'm going to talk about, and it's useless anyway, I won't feel any remorse diverting it.
I've seen several threads during the last couple of weeks where a random noob got the best out of one of the knowledgeable members of the community - in this and other forums - and they helped him instead of sending him to read stuff that he was supposed to be reading to know the answer.
In absolutely all of those threads, noob questions continued and deteriorated to the most basic ones. There wasn't even one thread where the noob wouldn't continue with flood of basic FAQ-sort of questions.
I've wrote in a couple of them more or less what I wrote here - an unpleasant message to stop the flood of baby questions.
All of the noobs were offended.
All of the noobs actually searched and found their answer after that message, and stopped the flood (with a message that here, they were so great they actually found everything themselves).
It's kinda sad, don't you think? Quite a few times bad treatment seems the most efficient way to achieve the best results... Guess there's no miraculous other way I'm missing, or maybe there is?
(P.S. I'm also moderating a local motorcyclists forum, and keeping the same harsh line in technical sub-forum. Works 100% for >5 years already. But sometimes it gets you wondering about human nature...)

Jack_R1 said:
Nandroid backup is a part of the recovery and not an app.
Start reading instead of asking, please. The procedure is covered a million times in a million places.
To the answering guys, (almost) off-topic:
I have a riddle for you, or actually, a somewhat sad observation to share and see your opinions. Since this thread is one of the examples for what I'm going to talk about, and it's useless anyway, I won't feel any remorse diverting it.
I've seen several threads during the last couple of weeks where a random noob got the best out of one of the knowledgeable members of the community - in this and other forums - and they helped him instead of sending him to read stuff that he was supposed to be reading to know the answer.
In absolutely all of those threads, noob questions continued and deteriorated to the most basic ones. There wasn't even one thread where the noob wouldn't continue with flood of basic FAQ-sort of questions.
I've wrote in a couple of them more or less what I wrote here - an unpleasant message to stop the flood of baby questions.
All of the noobs were offended.
All of the noobs actually searched and found their answer after that message, and stopped the flood (with a message that here, they were so great they actually found everything themselves).
It's kinda sad, don't you think? Quite a few times bad treatment seems the most efficient way to achieve the best results... Guess there's no miraculous other way I'm missing, or maybe there is?
(P.S. I'm also moderating a local motorcyclists forum, and keeping the same harsh line in technical sub-forum. Works 100% for >5 years already. But sometimes it gets you wondering about human nature...)
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don't worry i'm not offended... i read most of the stuff and guides out here, not taking just a minute to post the thread and having everyhting done by someone else.. i just needed directions! Anyway, if you don't want this kinda stuff in the forum, just put it in the registration form, newbies not accepted, and the prolem is solved

There is another thing that's floating around
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA

yup