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Definitive Battery Thread

Hello everyone!
I've spent the past week doing as much research as possible into what type of battery to buy for my G2 and i've come across alot of information to say the least. Alot of opinions, alot of useless data, and some useful data. I just wanted to summarize this info for everyone. And add any new information that people post in the thread below, including battery life data.
Popular Batteries:
- The Mugen 1800mAh - $45 (1400mAh in testing)
- The Senido 1750mAh - $50 (1400mAh in testing)
- The HTC 1500mAh 35H00123-11M (-00M).. Also known as the TP2/EVO battery - $7 (1500mAh in testing)
- The CHICHITEC 1800mAh - $20/each or $40 for 2 + Charger (untested)
Research:
- Mugen and Seido seem to have EXTREMELY inconsistent mAh ratings, HTC seems to be the most consistent.
- On the other hand, trying to compare these battery assuming constant maximum power draw is a little unfair.
The one thing that seems constant is that HTC's battery's perform as expected in every environment and over time, whereas the third partys seem to be able to pull values closer (somewhat) to what they advertise under certain conditions. Not to mention that we have no knowledge regarding the long-term affects of the 'tuning' that these third party companies have done.
We gotta realize that most battery's are using the same cell or the same knock-off cell, and we can't really expect to much of an increase in mAh in this battery form-factor.
Installation Issues:
A lot of these battery's will need to be modified to fit our phones in one way or another as they're meant for the EVO 4G/Incredible/TP2/MyTouch3gSlide/CDMAHero.. Even the ones that are labeled as "G2 Compatible" might not be as a lot of the 'higher capacity' cells have identical dimensions.
Removing the Wrapper around the battery might assist with door bulge
If you feel like you have to aggressively 'wedge' the battery in then you might want to remove/modify the little nub's at the bottom of the battery near the contacts using nail clippers/dremel/knife. Otherwise you run the risk of damaging the cell-side charging contacts.
Some of the hardcore guys in here have sanded down the battery to have a good fit
The 'fit' differs from phone to phone depending both on the dimensions of each specific battery (not the actual brand or company, but each individual battery seems to be a little bit different) and the G2 Door.
If you leave the door bulging indefinitely it might damage the door in some way, it's recommended that you remove the door and just use a case if it's a major problem for you.
Tips:
- After installing the new battery, remember to reset the battery calibration through your recovery. This affects how many times you feel the need to "cycle it through" before achieving optimal battery life.
- Don't believe the temperature sensor on 3rd Party batteries
- Individual "Before and After" stories are cool, but not that useful considering all the variables involved with the hardware, the radio & signal, the software, and the human being (placebo affect). Aggregating all the data together does give us some picture of whats going on.
- The best tell for battery quality is the weight of the battery compared to your stock one, although this is not a guaranteed method.
Conclusion
After reading through as many threads as I could find regarding this topic, It seems that the CHICHITEC batteries have come to be the most popular across all these HTC phones. While the 1500mAh HTC EVO battery seems like the best deal with the most consistent power output.
The average perceived benefit using these batteries seems to be between 30-20%.
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All Corrections Welcome, All Data Welcome!

Fantastic initiative. Unfortunately I only have the stock at the moment and I can't comment.
Did u mean Seidio or Sendio??
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Thanks, this really is usefull and spares us who are still trying to figure out wich battery they want, alot of time!

For CHICHITEC 1800mAh battery, is it safe to shave off the piece allowing the battery to be a perfect fit? Such as trying to use a nail clipper and clip it off.

Very good work on compiling all this information.
All I wanted to do was add my experience. I went out on a limb and bought the 2000mAh batteries from Galilio.
I took the wrapper off and trimmed the tabs and have been using them for about 3 months now.
My battery door does have a slight bulge to it but I can live with it.
The other day I decided to go back to my factory battery because I now have a charger by my bed, one in my truck and one at work. I have to say, I am spoiled now. My G2 is loaded up and running like crazy and my factory battery lasted like 2 hours where my Galilio battery goes for about 9 to 10 hours.
I text ALOT and facebook runs all day, I use the navigation on a daily basis and play tons of games.
Hope my 2 cents helped.

Gravityrat said:
Very good work on compiling all this information.
All I wanted to do was add my experience. I went out on a limb and bought the 2000mAh batteries from Galilio.
I took the wrapper off and trimmed the tabs and have been using them for about 3 months now.
My battery door does have a slight bulge to it but I can live with it.
The other day I decided to go back to my factory battery because I now have a charger by my bed, one in my truck and one at work. I have to say, I am spoiled now. My G2 is loaded up and running like crazy and my factory battery lasted like 2 hours where my Galilio battery goes for about 9 to 10 hours.
I text ALOT and facebook runs all day, I use the navigation on a daily basis and play tons of games.
Hope my 2 cents helped.
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sweet i am still breaking the battery in hopefully its good as urs, btw what rom are you running?

I'm thinking about getting Mugen 1800mAH, but people are having mixed results. Maybe one day we'll get HTC made OEM battery.

G1_enthusiast said:
sweet i am still breaking the battery in hopefully its good as urs, btw what rom are you running?
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It's in my signature. lol
CM 6.1.1 I absolutely love it. Tried the CM 7 but don't like it yet.

im on 10 hours of uncharge, so far its been light use, uncluding 1 hour and 30 min of GPS some texting, surfing and HTC updates

Thanks for compiling this info. I've had greatly improved life with the 1800mAh Mugen, but wasn't aware of the inconsistency some people are seeing.
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How did u test them?
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I would say that the Mugen 1800 performs like a 1400 is an exaggeration.

Nighte said:
I would say that the Mugen 1800 performs like a 1400 is an exaggeration.
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Are you saying that it is better than 1400 or worse than 1400?

vittogn said:
How did u test them?
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Please run the same tests on the stock HTC 1300 mAh battery for reference.

I've posted in a thread about a 1500 mAh battery for $8.70 with wall charger.
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Queue515 said:
Are you saying that it is better than 1400 or worse than 1400?
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It's better, my bad for the ambiguous statement!

Nighte said:
It's better, my bad for the ambiguous statement!
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Cool, Thanks. There's a Mugen somewhere between HK and USA with my name on it.
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demster said:
I've posted in a thread about a 1500 mAh battery for $8.70 with wall charger.
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Add the DX batteries.

Inspire 4G Batteries..

Thought I would start a battery thread just to see what everyone thinks. I have noticed the battery is 1230 mah and thats a little small for my taste. I have heard nothing bad about battery life, but thought I would start this thread to throw some options out there on where to buy hi-cap batteries. Also if anyone has experience with a site or certain make of battery, that is made for this phone POST IT UP. I haven't really been able to find anything.....

I guess I'll reply to the earliest thread.
You haven't heard anything bad about the battery? I have heard a whole bunch of bad things about the battery. I have also heard a whole bunch of decent things about the battery which leads me - and I'm sure many other android users - to believe that with SMART management and usage, there is no reason the battery shouldn't last one day.
If there was a proven extended battery greater than 1300mah on the market right now, I would have had one ordered and delivered to my doorstep already. However, because of the hardware design, this may prove difficult for manufacturers.
My plan is to get the phone, set it up, possibly root - and then evaluate if the battery is adequate - as many had said it is. If it is REALLY bad, I mean frustrating, leaving me stranded in a bad part of town with no cell phone... then I will return it.

acPIZZA said:
I guess I'll reply to the earliest thread.
You haven't heard anything bad about the battery? I have heard a whole bunch of bad things about the battery. I have also heard a whole bunch of decent things about the battery which leads me - and I'm sure many other android users - to believe that with SMART management and usage, there is no reason the battery shouldn't last one day.
If there was a proven extended battery greater than 1300mah on the market right now, I would have had one ordered and delivered to my doorstep already. However, because of the hardware design, this may prove difficult for manufacturers.
My plan is to get the phone, set it up, possibly root - and then evaluate if the battery is adequate - as many had said it is. If it is REALLY bad, I mean frustrating, leaving me stranded in a bad part of town with no cell phone... then I will return it.
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Thats kind of what I had planned as well. I may also put a rom on it if they start coming out soon enough, because they have obviously shown to drastically improve battery on many many devices. BTW did find a couple batteries on ebay, up to 1600mah but obviously there is no way to tell if they are worth a dang or not.

rwon said:
Thats kind of what I had planned as well. I may also put a rom on it if they start coming out soon enough, because they have obviously shown to drastically improve battery on many many devices. BTW did find a couple batteries on ebay, up to 1600mah but obviously there is no way to tell if they are worth a dang or not.
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They're not worth a dang from what I've read. Crap manufacturers label batteries as they'd like - good luck proving them wrong.
I'm looking out for a legitimate battery, not from ebay, that is over 1300mah. Will post if said battery is found.

I saw a review of the seidio "extended" capacity battery for the dhd and results were not very good. The battery is listed as a 1600mah, but it's true capacity was only about 85% of what it was rated. That percentage fluctuated as well and was some times as low as 70%. The HTC batteries while only being 1230mah were close to 95% of it's rated. So it seems that the stock batteries are the best choice.

mentalcase said:
I saw a review of the seidio "extended" capacity battery for the dhd and results were not very good. The battery is listed as a 1600mah, but it's true capacity was only about 85% of what it was rated. That percentage fluctuated as well and was some times as low as 70%. The HTC batteries while only being 1230mah were close to 95% of it's rated. So it seems that the stock batteries are the best choice.
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Looks like I may be purchasing a stock battery, and a car charger.

well, I've read that the desire and inspire are basically the same phone, if that is the case than I know, personally, 4 people who own this battery and have said it adds about 2 hours of life with moderate to heavy usage.
www(dot)londonmagicstore(dot)co(dot)uk/Batteries/HTC/Desire/AIO+Extended+1500+mAh+Battery+for+HTC+Desire+HD.html?osCsid=be86d09457ce6d650eb205623ed98a23
If it doesn't have the same battery, then I'm sorry for the post.

driftkidd2323 said:
well, I've read that the desire and inspire are basically the same phone, if that is the case than I know, personally, 4 people who own this battery and have said it adds about 2 hours of life with moderate to heavy usage.
www(dot)londonmagicstore(dot)co(dot)uk/Batteries/HTC/Desire/AIO+Extended+1500+mAh+Battery+for+HTC+Desire+HD.html?osCsid=be86d09457ce6d650eb205623ed98a23
If it doesn't have the same battery, then I'm sorry for the post.
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Well i see they ship to the Us, but what about payment methods?

rwon said:
Well i see they ship to the Us, but what about payment methods?
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I think you just pay them... it will convert US to pounds.
I ordered a pair of jeans from France this year and you paid as you would anything else... it just converts the euro into US and thats what it takes from your bank.

I would invest in extra chargers. I picked up an inspire today and that battery door is almost impossible to get off. It would be an act in frustration to try to change that battery even once! From what I have seen the battery is holding up pretty well. I crushed the phone for a few hours and downloaded about 20 apps on wifi. The level dropped of course but it held up better than my Nexus one is holding up these days.

bmolloy said:
I would invest in extra chargers. I picked up an inspire today and that battery door is almost impossible to get off. It would be an act in frustration to try to change that battery even once! From what I have seen the battery is holding up pretty well. I crushed the phone for a few hours and downloaded about 20 apps on wifi. The level dropped of course but it held up better than my Nexus one is holding up these days.
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I bought a couple of extra micro USB cables and I"m thinking of getting one of those portable emergency batteries.

Naytwan said:
I bought a couple of extra micro USB cables and I"m thinking of getting one of those portable emergency batteries.
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^ That is one option I've used with good success. And the extrernal battery is just a USB connection so I can use it for lots of stuff. It recharges the internal battery at the same time, an added bonus.

I am thinking about switching to Inspire from HD2. Can anyone confirm that the Inspire 4g uses same batteries as HD2?

Do where can we buy the dhd batteries from?

chigrizund said:
I am thinking about switching to Inspire from HD2. Can anyone confirm that the Inspire 4g uses same batteries as HD2?
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no they are not the same.

So what's the biggest desire hd battery that we could use in the inspire?

man i need to get an extra battery

I ordered a spare from an AT&T corporate store today. The receipt lists it as 1400mah. I assume it's going to be the stock 1230 though. We shall see in a few days.

Link please?

davwman said:
So what's the biggest desire hd battery that we could use in the inspire?
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Your best bet would be mugen 1300mah battery. That's the one I am using and last 1-1.5hours more than stock.
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Extended Battery?

Does anyone know if HTC will create an extended battey for this phone?

Hardly. Case is solid, there's no space for it.

I found this 1800mAh one. It is not made by HTC but it should support Desire S.

tychodebrahe said:
I found this 1800mAh one. It is not made by HTC but it should support Desire S.
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doesnt look reliable.. but its mugen whi makes that battery. dont buy from tha website, go to the official mugen website.

are you having problems with the battery life for desire s?
experience says 3rd party batteries doesn't do justice... eventhough they have a higher rating, they perform more poorly than the orginal lower rated battery.

My battery seems pretty weak, one day of moderate usage, and it was gone, a little bit of everything, wi-fi (no more than 1 hour all day long), games, calls, camera, browsing through the menus, aprox 40-50% backlight only slightly above my average use...
how long should it keep the phone running for?
can't find reliable info on this, too few people have this device, I hope the comunity gets bigger

1.1800mah seen it's not reliable
2.there is one movable charger in markey

any ideea if there is an extended battery for the phone connector? for sos when you remain without battery and desparate need the phone

it will be good to upgrade the battery..very fast one to drain up.
found somewhere samsung gs2 already come up with 2100mAh battery which is very good

abu busyra said:
it will be good to upgrade the battery..very fast one to drain up.
found somewhere samsung gs2 already come up with 2100mAh battery which is very good
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Galaxy note, with a 2,500 mah battery!
But a huge 4.5" screen, Like HD amoled scrren, 1.4 dual core..
That will drain the large battry around the same as a standard phone!

radusy said:
any ideea if there is an extended battery for the phone connector? for sos when you remain without battery and desparate need the phone
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I use this one as an emergency battery pack. Can highly recommend it. There are cheaper ones out there, but they usually break or don't meet the claims of their capacity...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B003ZY9DWO/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/279-2788225-9789206
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I would love to have one of this. It drain to quick when playing games. I also hope that the extended battery comes beautifully in design
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i would love to have this one also. i do hope HTC will hear this

porporta looks good to me
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i bought this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/13055708044...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_2218wt_1140(2430 mAh) and for this time (1 week of using), its not seems to be better than original.
Maybe i've got to reset battery controller history?
and how to do this? ))

that's because it probably isn't as good as the original battery. it's from ebay and the fact that it's painted gold just makes it even more hard to believe.
You should always get a battery from a reliable company.
the mugen power is £30 from mobile fun.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/mugen-ht...edium=comparison&utm_campaign=google+products
1800mAh

dan-fish said:
that's because it probably isn't as good as the original battery. it's from ebay and the fact that it's painted gold just makes it even more hard to believe.
You should always get a battery from a reliable company.
the mugen power is £30 from mobile fun.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/mugen-ht...edium=comparison&utm_campaign=google+products
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nope, i dont think so ... people bought and checked this batt, they sad that its OK, better than original... i think that some problem is in controller, or ive done something wrong way at first time of using ((

What happened to the mugen thread?
Why did it get deleted??
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Its gone a long time ago.
I think because there were special codes for cheaper prize.

old.splatterhand said:
Its gone a long time ago.
I think because there were special codes for cheaper prize.
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ah :/ What is wrong with promoting cheaper prices?
why coudnt the mod just delete the posts? It was a good reference!

I dont know for sure, if this was the reason. It was special offers for limited persons, so this could be...
But i absolutly agree with you!
And as i was a mod in a german board some time ago i think it is a shame to delete a whole thread --> very, very sad...

dont buy!1800MAH battery Andida

I got it from ebay but it has only 1200mAh as I measured .it is not 1800mAh.in real life even giving worse performance then stock one.avoid it.it is only a big bluff

shihte said:
I got it from ebay but it has only 1200mAh as I measured .it is not 1800mAh.in real life even giving worse performance then stock one.avoid it.it is only a big bluff
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Thumbs up for the warning.
But...there is a saying that goes "if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is ".

shihte said:
I got it from ebay but it has only 1200mAh as I measured .it is not 1800mAh.in real life even giving worse performance then stock one.avoid it.it is only a big bluff
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I understand the battery capacity number is hardcoded in the HD, so even if it were higgher capacity, it would still show that.
If you have a multimeter or other specialised equipment, that's the best way. Also, you'll need to run a few charging cycles to get a good comparison.
But anyway, cheap ebay batteries are just that. If you search this section, you will see tens of threads about fake batteries offering high capacity.
The only geniune high capacity battery is Mugen's, there are a couple of threads already about this battery.
(or buy a power-pack/recharger, eg 5000mah for €25-30)

today shows 1176mAh but i will visit tv repair centre.they have better tools then me.i let u know

shihte said:
today shows 1176mAh but i will visit tv repair centre.they have better tools then me.i let u know
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wow thats real ****...thanks for the warning...Ive heard issue on all the brands that make aftermarket battery...only the original HTC seems to be actually the best performing units.

Not only the stock battery is probably the best performing one, but also the safest. Always be aware of the expansion and the heat that cheap batteries produce. It can damage your phone easily.
As for the capacity measurement, if you drain/charge the battery with higher current, it will show less capacity. Still the measured 1176mAh is probably closer to the truth than the printed 1800mAh.

thanks man for the warning

bad results
after 4th charging still giving shorter performance then stock battery.i will stop at tv repair centre early in next week then post here their measurement.personally i won't expect more like 1200mAh

shihte said:
after 4th charging still giving shorter performance then stock battery.i will stop at tv repair centre early in next week then post here their measurement.personally i won't expect more like 1200mAh
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To compare the two batteries you should rate them in the same conditions. So if you can leave the stock battery with them to test them both and post the results I would be grateful.
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kelany said:
thanks man for the warning
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There was a thread for a third party battery expanding in the phone and pressing on the screen... scary
I can't understand why would someone put a 10 euro battery in 500 euro phone!
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Hi,
is there any other seriuos alternative on the market?
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Agreed, I bought one of these Andida batteries from eBay as well, had it in for a couple of months & i've now gone back to the original battery. In my opinion, it doesnt last as long as the stock HTC battery.

I´ve bought this battery last week over ebay and at the 1st day i was pleased, because the operating time with it seems better than with the original battery. But after five daily loading sessions the battery drain gets faster and faster. Yesterday, after 1,5 hours Angry Birds and a little time listening music it runs from 100 to 38%. Today i´ve installed the original battery back and i was surprised. After five days in the drawer of my desk it shows 99% accu state. I will stay at the original.

not 1800mAh
It has only 1170mAh

anyone find a good replacement with higher cap ?

Thanks for warning.

As far as i know there's nothing better then mugen's 1500 =(

Don't look just mAh's, they will not tell all. Also, if HTC's factory battery costs ~30€, who believe that the battery which costs 10 euros, can be better than the original..?
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Hi, always replace a battery with that recommended by the manufacturer ...

I have a replacement desire hd battery. It lasts about 25% less the the original one, and it is set "to be" 1600mAh strong lol

Question about Mugen Battery 1500mah

I'm very curous about this battery for Desire HD. From my experience, 3rd party batteries are generally frowned upon because they usually either
1) Does not contain the advertised charge (mah) amount
2) Does contain the advertised amount of charge but the battery spoils fast, and would be unable to hold charge properly after a few months of usage
3) Heat issues, etc, safety issues in general
It seems like many people in this forum have already got the battery and would like to know whats it like so far. my current original DHD battery has already semi gave way after a year+ of usage, it no longer hold the charge proper and I can only charge up till 60+% before it jumps straight to 100%, as well as battery level jumps erratically.
I went to check, seems like the mugen 1500mah battery http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...ery-for-for-htc-desire-hd-softbank-001ht.html cost around $45 US which translates to roughly $56SGD whereas locally the original DHD battery costs $59SGD. Adding a couple of bucks for shipping and all, it definitely works out to be a better battery to purchase if it actually works well (e.g. refer to above criterias).
So I would like to know whether the battery suffer from the problem of holding charge and also any heat/security issues. Considering I've read that many people claim that they get a lot more battery life out of it in their initial usage.

you can find plenty of user comments in these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818794
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=997060
Between the 2 threads, there are about 700 comments

If you can live with a modified battery cover then this is superior to the mugen battery and cheaper too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344761
Big advantage here is you can use an original sensation/evo3d battery from HTC and don't have to have rely on 3rd party batteries.
On the other hand you can get as much as 1900mAh instead of the 1500mAh mugen offers.

paul c said:
you can find plenty of user comments in these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818794
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=997060
Between the 2 threads, there are about 700 comments
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As a matter of fact I have skimmed through that threads and I don't find anyone talking about how the battery life performs after months to a year of usage. This is a common concern because many 3rd party batteries lose their ability to hold charge very quickly after a short period of time. Of course it can be argued that no one complained about it in the thread but thats not substantial enough. The uesr reviews thats stated in those thread that you have linked are mostly by new users who were "wow"ed by the battery and then stop coming over to the thread altogether.

Even if they would reply, you wouldn't be able to use their statements because you don't know how they treated the battery so far.
I received my Mugen battery lately and I will be handling it the way I learned from here:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

Ratix0 said:
As a matter of fact I have skimmed through that threads and I don't find anyone talking about how the battery life performs after months to a year of usage. This is a common concern because many 3rd party batteries lose their ability to hold charge very quickly after a short period of time. Of course it can be argued that no one complained about it in the thread but thats not substantial enough. The uesr reviews thats stated in those thread that you have linked are mostly by new users who were "wow"ed by the battery and then stop coming over to the thread altogether.
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I have been using the Mugen battery for about a month now, following their instructions on how to handle the battery during the initial charges.
First, you say "3rd party batteries lose their charge.... after months to a year". Well, my original HTC battery after one year, is - I estimate - about 50% of the new Mugen.
OK, a new battery will outperform an old one, but it's not just 3rd party batteries.
When I changed batteries, the OEM one had actually expanded slightly and it did not slide out of its compartment easily. So the OEM is not a perfect guarantee of a lifetime of high power and good behaviour
And, I spent the extra € on Mugen and not the 2000mAh cons from eBay - Mugen has built a reputation over time, it is built to a similar (or higher?) standard as the OEM's.
btw look for a coupon that is valid for 10 or 20% I recall off the standard Mugen price.

test1800mAh
Many businesses will pretend to be the large capacity, we choose the best choice in the factory, so the quality guaranteed some. I bought a nominal capacity is 2300 mAh, I test the actual can reach 1800 mAh.

does it give you much better battery life?

So if im charghing my battery and it jumps to 100 from 74pct it shows that my battery is in bad condition?

msellars2450 said:
does it give you much better battery life?
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Yes, about 22 % (1500:1230= 1,219...)

No because it's physically impossible.

Hunt3r.j2 said:
No because it's physically impossible.
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I've measured my battery and, as stated before, it has 1523 mAh.

Zeitraffer said:
I've measured my battery and, as stated before, it has 1523 mAh.
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I can confirm this too.

Zeitraffer said:
I've measured my battery and, as stated before, it has 1523 mAh.
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Give me a screenshot of a true test of the battery using external monitoring. Batteryboss.org is my proof, where is yours?

Hunt3r.j2 said:
where is yours?
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I can confirm this too.
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Also I'm not here to battle myself with others about stats.
There's a lot of people that are satisfied with Mugen, even here on the board.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=12986796
I personally don't care if you don't believe that.

I used a battery testing widget when I first got the mugen battery about 2 months back...
It was around 1300mAh with maximum 15% deviation, stayed around that value for the charge cycles done during that period, for about a couple of weeks.
I'd say its definitely pretty close. My HTC battery was at 800mAh with maximum of 20% deviation by the end of 1 year.
(Deviation comes from the limitation of calculating the mAh if I'm not wrong. Because it takes value of the actual consumption / charging once every minute or so, it kind of either interpolates between values, or just assume the whole 1 minute being the recorded value. Hence the possible variation.)

Zeitraffer said:
Also I'm not here to battle myself with others about stats.
There's a lot of people that are satisfied with Mugen, even here on the board.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=12986796
I personally don't care if you don't believe that.
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Of course you don't, but no, ignorance is not a replacement for knowledge.
Actual testing (250 mA drain until shutoff voltage) shows Mugen to be wrong. Where is proof that you're right?
For the OP: http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Univ...able-Packaging/dp/B00486MH80/ref=pd_sim_cps_6
That should give one full charge of the Desire HD from 0% to 100%. It's about the size of the phone, but thinner.
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-SlimTal..._1_6?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1334818005&sr=1-6
This should give around two to 1.75 full charges.
I would highly suggest going with genuine OEM batteries to get the maximum you can get. Always ask yourself: If it was so easy to get more battery capacity into the phone, why didn't HTC do it?

Hunt3r.j2 said:
Batteryboss.org is my proof
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No it's not, because batteryboss.org did not test the Mugen 1500 mAh battery for the HTC Desire HD this thread is about. If they did, please provide a link.
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Tests of batteries being sold for HTC's Nexus One, Incredible, EVO 4G, Hero, Desire and Touch Pro2/Tilt 2.
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Hunt3r.j2 said:
where is yours?
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Hunt3r.j2 said:
Where is proof that you're right?
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I have posted a screenshot of BatteryMonitorWidgetPro below, showing 1526 mAh of in-use value as complete capacity after 100% complete / 0% discharge cycles.
Also showing 1214 mAh with +- 41% deviation while on daily use, with no complete charge/discharge cycles that I made in the beginning, after I had received the battery on March 13th 2012.
So this is not the complete capacity; the upper value is.
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Actual testing (250 mA drain until shutoff voltage) shows Mugen to be wrong.
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Where? Please provide a link to the test of the Mugen 1500 mAh for HTC Desire HD.
Of course I might be wrong, for I am no technician, but the one test app that I used showed me these values. I haven't read anything about Mugen selling batteries with fake values, so I'd really like to know more about it, if there is

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No it's not, because batteryboss.org did not test the Mugen 1500 mAh battery for the HTC Desire HD this thread is about. If they did, please provide a link.
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They tested a Mugen battery, which consistently shows that they overrate batteries. By default, the rating of the battery is in serious doubt.
Zeitraffer said:
I have posted a screenshot of BatteryMonitorWidgetPro below, showing 1526 mAh of in-use value as complete capacity after 100% complete / 0% discharge cycles.
Also showing 1214 mAh with +- 41% deviation while on daily use, with no complete charge/discharge cycles that I made in the beginning, after I had received the battery on March 13th 2012.
So this is not the complete capacity; the upper value is.
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Your own phone is telling you that you're getting exactly OEM capacity, maybe less. Battery Monitor Widget extrapolates what it thinks your mAh rating of the battery is based upon the voltage and the mA consumed to get to that voltage. So far it looks like your battery is either OEM capacity or slightly less. The top 1526 mAh number is what the battery claims to have, not what it really has.
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Where? Please provide a link to the test of the Mugen 1500 mAh for HTC Desire HD.
Of course I might be wrong, for I am no technician, but the one test app that I used showed me these values. I haven't read anything about Mugen selling batteries with fake values, so I'd really like to know more about it, if there is
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1. Your test app is proving you wrong.
2. Phone based test applications are a horrible idea, proper testing should be done with the battery charged outside the phone to 4.2v then discharged to 3.4v at constant mA drain. Multiply the time that it took to drain by the mA drain used to get your accurate capacity.

Hunt3r.j2 said:
They tested a Mugen battery, which consistently shows that they overrate batteries. By default, the rating of the battery is in serious doubt.
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1 battery doesn't prove anything.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
Battery Monitor Widget extrapolates what it thinks your mAh rating of the battery is
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No, it uses historical data (logs) to measure the battery. It doesn't think, it measures.
Please provide a link or anything else for such statements.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw.pro&hl=de said:
Measures real battery capacity using historical data
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So far it looks like your battery is either OEM capacity or slightly less.
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No. This is how the app works: This value (1214 mAh) was measured by not draining the battery completely anymore. If I don't drain the pack to 0%, the app cannot measure all the capacity. Simple logic.
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The top 1526 mAh number is what the battery claims to have, not what it really has.
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No, the battery was measured all the way from 100% to 0%, and that's what came out after several complete cycles. The log is accessible inside the program.
How should it claim another value?
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Your test app is proving you wrong.
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Please prove that statement.
HTC Desire HD is a supported device
http://www.3c71.com/android/?q=node/102
Hunt3r.j2 said:
2. Phone based test applications are a horrible idea, proper testing should be done with the battery charged outside the phone to 4.2v then discharged to 3.4v at constant mA drain. Multiply the time that it took to drain by the mA drain used to get your accurate capacity.
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That is just your opinion.