I have the 0.7 rom load with both patchs and the blue theme, I want to try out apps 2 SD i just didnt know the best route in doing so, for it to work correctly with your rom. If i use the format function in the recovery menue would it automatically save my apps on the SD and work properly or would i have to reinstall them?
BAttitude7689 said:
I have the 0.7 rom load with both patchs and the blue theme, I want to try out apps 2 SD i just didnt know the best route in doing so, for it to work correctly with your rom. If i use the format function in the recovery menue would it automatically save my apps on the SD and work properly or would i have to reinstall them?
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(I personally don't like apps2sd but if you really have that many apps...)
Yea. Backup your sd card (it will get wiped). Boot in to recovery and create swap+ext2+fat32 and then convert ext2 to ext3 (all are options in the recovery menu). It will move everything for you.
Why don't you like apps 2 sd? I just figure if you have that you won't have worry about internal memory if you wanted to have a lot o
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This is why he doesn't like it:
flipzmode said:
**My note about Apps2SD: I added support for it in this release of the rom because people who were using it in other roms that tried to install this rom were receiving errors. Here's my point of view on it.
I played with it for over 8 hours today between implementing it and then testing it to make sure this fix would work. I have personally come to not like apps2sd, but I am including it for those who use it.
The reason I don't like it is because it puts your phone at a huge risk of having problems once anything goes wrong. If you install a program that causes issues, a nandroid backup will not resolve the issue because the application is installed on your SD card not your phone. If your phone starts going crazy as reported here and here, then even just a restore possibly won't fix it. You might need to go as far as to wipe your SD card too. If you are lucky enough to have a restore fix your problems you will still need to reinstall every app, even if you didn't wipe your card. And on top of that when you try to reinstall any app it will think it's still installed, even though you restored your phone. But when you click "uninstall" it will just freeze half the time because there's nothing on the phone for it to actually install. I have also read many threads that say if you happen to boot the phone up without the SD card in then it will screw everything up.
So now maybe you are wondering why I would add Apps2SD support in this rom. In order for people who are currently using Apps2SD to upgrade to this rom I must support it or require them to do a hard reset before coming to fresh. Clearly I don't want you to have to reset so I have supported it. With that said: I personally recommend not using it. This rom will auto-use it if your SD card is formatted for it (fat32+ext2+swap partitions) but it won't use it if you are only partitioned as 1 fat32. My suggestion is to stick to the 1 partition and let your applications install on the phone. Linux is not like Windows in the sense that it will run the same whether you phone has 140 megs free of storage space or 10 megs free. So unless you plan on installing 100 apps, I don't see the practical purposes of using Apps2SD. But a lot of people like it.
Now with all of THAT said -- this rom officially has and supports Apps2SD. It is a program that I think has the possibility of being great, but has to work within the confines of the phone which means tricking Android in to thinking that the applications are installed on the phone when they aren't. That is what leads to all the problems mentioned above.
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If i have apps2sd already from the previous rom i don't have to re-do it for the new one correct?
no you dont.
using apps2sd2 problems
I followed all the instructions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5618439#post5618439 for apps2sd2 yet when I open the app, it STILL says Oops, you have to run through the tutorial to set it up. I've DONE THIS. I'm extermely frustrated. I have no idea what more to do. My sd card is partitioned correctly. I've run all the commands listed in that tutorial. PLS HELP! Also all my apps are showing in /system/sd/app AND data/app. Is this correct? Why won't Apps2sd2 work for me? I really need some troubleshooting help.
I have a rooted CMDA HTC Hero using the Fresh ROM. Also is there a way to still get Sprint TV using this ROM?
Fresh .7 doesn't support A2SD, only Fresh 1.0 & 1.1.
So i am planing on selling my G1 to a friend, now I told him I will root his phone, but heres the thing, I want to unlock it for him since he uses at&t, that I can already do
But I wish to root his phone but not have a custom build, Since most Iv tryed crash more then the phone should and he has a 2gb sd card so he can't do apps on sd
is it possible, and once again ill state it,
1)unlocked
2)root w/ superuser
3)No custom build or if I have to,do a good non apps on sd thats very very very stable
4)Donut (latest android version)
it is very possible to do app2sd on a 2g card. it's not the best, but it is extremely possible. i ran my phone with a2sd on a 2g card for several months and it worked perfectly fine.
I dunno if this will work, and I might be totally just talking crazy, but if you didn't partition your sd card, i don't think it should use a2sd, since i guess to run it, it looks for that second partition? So just like a regular stock sd card without any other partitions should let him use just the regular memory. And on that note, enomther's roms are pretty close to stock, and i'm sure your friend wouldn't mind those extra little additions. Just a suggestion. Hope it helps!
eessel said:
I dunno if this will work, and I might be totally just talking crazy, but if you didn't partition your sd card, i don't think it should use a2sd, since i guess to run it, it looks for that second partition? So just like a regular stock sd card without any other partitions should let him use just the regular memory. And on that note, enomther's roms are pretty close to stock, and i'm sure your friend wouldn't mind those extra little additions. Just a suggestion. Hope it helps!
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sounds about right to me. if there's no ext partition on the card, it can't use apps2sd.
doesn't enomther have just a base donut with just root? no fancy stuff?
grandomegabosses said:
sounds about right to me. if there's no ext partition on the card, it can't use apps2sd.
doesn't enomther have just a base donut with just root? no fancy stuff?
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well, I think there's under the hood stuff to make it run a bit faster, but apart from that, it's pretty close to stock. And like I said, his friend shouldn't complain about the extras, or else maybe he doesn't deserve it. lol.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
These are standard OTA roms w/ root.
That should cover all you need.
tanner2007 said:
...he has a 2gb sd card so he can't do apps on sd
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And what is a problem to use app2sd on 2gb card? I use stock 1gb sd card for a2sd and everything is working fine.
Even if your friend only runs a 2gig card with just a 150meg ext partition still better than whats on the phone itself and is hardly a noticable loss.
As already mentioned on here Enomthers base rom and the 2.3.3 ext pack are pretty close to stock with a few improvements and I've been running it hard for over a month and never had any problems or issuse's and if you use Amon RA's 1.5.2 recovery image your blazing fella. I switch roms like my underwear at the moment and the nandroid + ext backup on the recovery image brings me back to exactly how is was before switching! Tis genius!
holysmokesbatty said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
These are standard OTA roms w/ root.
That should cover all you need.
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I need root, not without =] unless w/ means with? lol can someone clarify?
shadowch31 said:
Even if your friend only runs a 2gig card with just a 150meg ext partition still better than whats on the phone itself and is hardly a noticable loss.
As already mentioned on here Enomthers base rom and the 2.3.3 ext pack are pretty close to stock with a few improvements and I've been running it hard for over a month and never had any problems or issuse's and if you use Amon RA's 1.5.2 recovery image your blazing fella. I switch roms like my underwear at the moment and the nandroid + ext backup on the recovery image brings me back to exactly how is was before switching! Tis genius!
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I dont care about features, if it has root, and no crashing, im good apps2sd is a plus so tell me more about this?
and lets say if i restarted my root process, how would i do it? the guides all have JF old roms in the tuts, idk what to install first after the guide
for everyone else. thanks much
So, what rom should i use ? I use Khal V4 but it not so stable, it some time crack and some time can't not boot and it even sometime can't reconigize my SD card .
I just need a rom that stable and fast and can play game good. Any advise for me?
Thank you.
Don't know what to tell you. Khal's steel epic blue V4 is completely stable for me. Everything is fast and I don't get crashes... Even the camera app which used to jam up constantly and sometimes force me to do a battery pull after 3 pictures doesn't happen anymore (just fired off 10 shots in a row with no issues at all -though kind of slow rendering time sometimes).
You can try Dexter's 1.3 with Mioa7ae's patch, but I don't see why you should have any issues with Khal's rom.
I am using the Epic Blue also and after the first few days of tweaking, it runs stable and haven't had any real problems. The first few days were really hard and frustating to get everything running well and together.
I am using Full Fat32 with a 513swap and native froyo app2sd (with move2sd enabler) and this SD Speed Increase which ups that cache settings of your SD card through /System. Have to wipe Dalvik evey once in awhile but all-in-all faster than 2.1 and way more stable that Personared was. Could flash Galaxyxt4 though. Kept getting Md5 checksum error.
Good luck
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sometime can't reconigize my SD card
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It seems to be very common for the SD card to cause trouble.
I think I would look into fixing your SD card. First try copying all the files off and reformatting it and copying them back. I recommend doing this after removing the card from the phone and inserting it directly into a computer. (If you're using the ext2/3 or swap partition you could get rid of them and reformat the entire card as fat). If you're still having problems, maybe your card has gone physically bad.
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I do not know how to use this mod who can help me ?
I do not know how to use this mod who can help me ?
Encryption Unsuccessful Message
I tried both mod1, 2, and 3. Each time I load my rom, load the BOOT-MOD-3.zip, and then my apps (PA Gapps).
I keep getting a Encryption unsuccessful message. Also to note, during the initial boot, it only preps/installs 12-14 apps and not the 70+ that usually need to be done when I don't run the move mod.
Any ideas?
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I do not know how to use this mod who can help me ?
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Use google to find how to create a sd-ext, there are many guides.
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I tried both mod1, 2, and 3. Each time I load my rom, load the BOOT-MOD-3.zip, and then my apps (PA Gapps).
I keep getting a Encryption unsuccessful message. Also to note, during the initial boot, it only preps/installs 12-14 apps and not the 70+ that usually need to be done when I don't run the move mod.
Any ideas?
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You need to wipe all partitions except sdcard in recovery, flash rom, gapps, then mod.
When you update rom, flash rom then mod again, that's it.
SD-ext needs to be a second primary partition formatted in ext4 (or f2fs if using cm12/cm12.1).
Note: New versions uploaded. Now supports all ivanich's ROMs (cm11,cm12,cm12.1).
@hinxnz: great mod, thx!
Working great for me, but I got 2 questions:
1) I flashed the newest cm12.1 two days ago and flashed your mod (all in SD except dalvic) afterwards. Now you uploaded a New Version compatible with all ivanich Roms. Does your update make any differences for me with cm12.1? Should I reflash?
2) You just said that the mod should be flashed after gapps, I did it the other way round. Does it matter? Got no problems so far.
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@hinxnz : great mod, thx!
Working great for me, but I got 2 questions:
1) I flashed the newest cm12.1 two days ago and flashed your mod (all in SD except dalvic) afterwards. Now you uploaded a New Version compatible with all ivanich Roms. Does your update make any differences for me with cm12.1? Should I reflash?
2) You just said that the mod should be flashed after gapps, I did it the other way round. Does it matter? Got no problems so far.
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It doesn't matter in what order, as long as the mod is flashed after ROM because it edits ramdisk in the kernel.
Your fine with the version you have, it will act the same. You can flash the newer version when you update your ROM.
Problem with storage size
Thanks very much for the mod.
I wanted to use "All Data excl. Dalvik-Cache" and ivanichs cm 12.1 with 4ext recovery.
I was using delta-roh method on my previous installation.
I wiped all partitions except SD card. clean install the rom, then pico gapps and then this mod. Then i install my backups with titanium backup and it started to say storage is full.
When I checked the storage it was still showin 1.15gb and it was full. But installed app size was showing 2gb. I wast able to get sms because of the storage was full.
Am I missing something with the installation method?
Thanks is advance for the replies.
How can I check free/used space on idata?
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Same problem
Hey guys, I'm having the same problem than AKAndrew41. It gives me encryption unsuccessful screen after reboot. It keeps loading at bootloop and can't enter recovery neither. Can you help me?
Thank you!
sicko40 said:
Hey guys, I'm having the same problem than AKAndrew41. It gives me encryption unsuccessful screen after reboot. It keeps loading at bootloop and can't enter recovery neither. Can you help me?
Thank you!
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Hi, I flashed boot.img (this file I unzipped from ivanich ROM 18.04.2015 ROM) from the computer with adb and flashed ivanich ROM 18.04.2015 from TWRP ivanich. It's helped.
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How can I check free/used space on idata?
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You could use a root file explorer and check the properties of /idata or just enter code below into a terminal emulator. To enable terminal in cm12, goto developer options and enable local terminal.
Code:
df /idata
sicko40 said:
Hey guys, I'm having the same problem than AKAndrew41. It gives me encryption unsuccessful screen after reboot. It keeps loading at bootloop and can't enter recovery neither. Can you help me?
Thank you!
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To enter recovery pull battery out, then reinsert it. Hold down volume down button while powering up device and it will enter bootloader, which then you can enter recovery by selecting recovery.
You must have a second primary partition (sd-ext) of your sdcard formatted as ext4 (or you can choose to use f2fs if using cm12 or cm12.1).
If your formatting your whole sdcard instead of shrinking your fat32 partition, then you need to create the first partition (fat32) first and then the second (ext4 or f2fs), otherwise they will be labelled wrong.
CM11 doesn't support f2fs, so if you format it as f2fs on CM11, you will get an encryption error and same goes I guess if you format a partition in ext2 or ext3 because it's not configured in fstab.
Did you try flashing ROM and then mod again, maybe it was a bad flash, it can happen.
I'm using your MOD Plus V3 with 2 f2fs partitions at the moment, which I created with GParted.
What does TWRP do when wiping sd-ext in recovery? If I need to wipe both is there any posibility without using GParted?
And similar, what is backuped by TWRP when doing a backup of sd-ext?
Multi swap
Hi there,
I love the work you've been doing on the sensation and I'm glad to still be using it 4 years on with the latest CM12.1. I have a problem with lagginess after multiple attempts to install CM12.1 and your boot mod v1.2. It seems to be an issue relating to the memory and swap, and I noticed running the cat /proc/swaps shows BOTH /dev/block/zram0 AND the data partition. Removing the zram0 by using the swapoff command speeds the phone up loads. Is there a permanent fix though to persist after reboots?
Thanks,
Keith
geekshow said:
Hi there,
I love the work you've been doing on the sensation and I'm glad to still be using it 4 years on with the latest CM12.1. I have a problem with lagginess after multiple attempts to install CM12.1 and your boot mod v1.2. It seems to be an issue relating to the memory and swap, and I noticed running the cat /proc/swaps shows BOTH /dev/block/zram0 AND the data partition. Removing the zram0 by using the swapoff command speeds the phone up loads. Is there a permanent fix though to persist after reboots?
Thanks,
Keith
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Hi Keith, zram shouldn't be active, my mod disables it in fstab.pyramid, found in the root directory.
I don't know why it's activated on your side, maybe an app or init.d script.
To disable it, you could use an init.d script.
Code:
#!/sbin/sh
# Disable ZRAM
swapoff /dev/block/zram0
ZRAM sorted
Thanks for the reply mate. I installed TWRP (from 4ext) and used it to reformat everything and start from scratch which sorted out the ZRAM0 issue.
After reinstalling ivanich's CM12.1 and your boot mod v1.2 it was much better. I'm still having intermittent lag and slow network speeds so I reverted to CM11 this morning (with your boot mod) to see if it was any quicker. Seems to be much quicker but the lag persists. Weirdly I get the lag most in the settings, and it bombs out sometimes. I'm wondering if it could be to do with my SD card partitions which were created in GParted, not TWRP.
If you've got any ideas of things to check I'm all ears.
Thanks for the kind support!
geekshow said:
Thanks for the reply mate. I installed TWRP (from 4ext) and used it to reformat everything and start from scratch which sorted out the ZRAM0 issue.
After reinstalling ivanich's CM12.1 and your boot mod v1.2 it was much better. I'm still having intermittent lag and slow network speeds so I reverted to CM11 this morning (with your boot mod) to see if it was any quicker. Seems to be much quicker but the lag persists. Weirdly I get the lag most in the settings, and it bombs out sometimes. I'm wondering if it could be to do with my SD card partitions which were created in GParted, not TWRP.
If you've got any ideas of things to check I'm all ears.
Thanks for the kind support!
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No worries, first try a lower swappiness value by lowering value in /cache/swap.conf, save it and then reboot.
Try 30 or 40, default is 60. See how it goes.
If you still have lag then your memory could be running very low, use an app or init.d script to raise minfree values slighty higher.
I don't think it has to do with your sd partitions, could be your sdcard is a little slow maybe.
You could probably check the partitions in twrp or gparted though.
If you sort it, post what you did :good:
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No worries, first try a lower swappiness value by lowering value in /cache/swap.conf, save it and then reboot.
Try 30 or 40, default is 60. See how it goes.
If you still have lag then your memory could be running very low, use an app or init.d script to raise minfree values slighty higher.
I don't think it has to do with your sd partitions, could be your sdcard is a little slow maybe.
You could probably check the partitions in twrp or gparted though.
If you sort it, post what you did :good:
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Update: Blew everything away again and installed cm12.1 fresh without the SD-EXT mod and it runs fast and lag-free. Installed the sd-ext and lagginess came back. :-/
I had previously tried a fresh install with another SD partitioned by TWRP, made no difference to lagginess. Lower swappiness values seemed to have a minor difference but still laggy.
The lagginess seemed to be mostly when loading from disk. Applications in RAM seemed to run fine until they needed to load something. Downloads very slow on WiFi or 3g, titanium backup very slow too. Strange...
It would be nice to get it working but this is a tad baffling. Thanks for your kind support!
Keith
geekshow said:
Update: Blew everything away again and installed cm12.1 fresh without the SD-EXT mod and it runs fast and lag-free. Installed the sd-ext and lagginess came back. :-/
I had previously tried a fresh install with another SD partitioned by TWRP, made no difference to lagginess. Lower swappiness values seemed to have a minor difference but still laggy.
The lagginess seemed to be mostly when loading from disk. Applications in RAM seemed to run fine until they needed to load something. Downloads very slow on WiFi or 3g, titanium backup very slow too. Strange...
It would be nice to get it working but this is a tad baffling. Thanks for your kind support!
Keith
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Seems to me that your sdcard is not fast enough, what make and kind of card do you have?
SDHC or SDXC and UHS-I or UHS-II
I have a Sandisk Ultra SDHC UHS-I and it's only just fast enough for this mod, I need a faster one really.
I have no issues with download speeds with wifi, not really related to mod though, could be slow at writing to sdcard.
Titanium could be slow due to slower writing speeds on sdcard too as it has to build dalvik-caches on sdcard when restoring apps.
Edit: Can you try BOOT-MOD-1.1.zip, it's the non-plus version. It would be good to know if you still experience lags with it, if you do, then sdcard is not fast enough, otherwise could be something to do with the plus version, cheers.
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Seems to me that your sdcard is not fast enough, what make and kind of card do you have?
SDHC or SDXC and UHS-I or UHS-II
I have a Sandisk Ultra SDHC UHS-I and it's only just fast enough for this mod, I need a faster one really.
I have no issues with download speeds with wifi, not really related to mod though, could be slow at writing to sdcard.
Titanium could be slow due to slower writing speeds on sdcard too as it has to build dalvik-caches on sdcard when restoring apps.
Edit: Can you try BOOT-MOD-1.1.zip, it's the non-plus version. It would be good to know if you still experience lags with it, if you do, then sdcard is not fast enough, otherwise could be something to do with the plus version, cheers.
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I'm using a Lexar 32GB class 10 SDHC, had no issues with it. I ran the A1 SD card benchmarking tool and it measured reads of 17 and writes of 11 MB/s. The internal flash reported speeds of 25MB/s read and 7MB/s write by comparison.
I'll try the BOOT-MOD v1.1 and report back...