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internal memory?

I rooted my inspire 4G phone, and installed CoreDroid_Desire_HD_GB_2.3.3_V5.4.
Today I noticed
in Quadrant => System Information, it shows:
Memory
Total: 636132kB <== only 600MB internal memory !?
Free: 54728KB
Inactive 182592kB
In Setting=>SD and Phone Storage,
I see SD card of Total Space: 7.39GB
but, Internal storage available space is only 640MB
In Android Booster, it shows:
Memory available: 156/621MB
Since AT&T website says that this phone is supposed to have 4GB internal memory and 8GB miscroSD card. According to what it shows above, is it really the case? What happened to the 4GB internal memory? I don't know how it was before I rooted the phone. Can anyone help? Thanks!

people still ask that question by the way before root it came with one gig try formating
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Internal is 4gigs, but only 1 gig available.

where 3GB goes?

zstone123 said:
Memory
Total: 636132kB <== only 600MB internal memory !?
Free: 54728KB
Inactive 182592kB
In Setting=>SD and Phone Storage,
I see SD card of Total Space: 7.39GB
but, Internal storage available space is only 640MB
In Android Booster, it shows:
Memory available: 156/621MB
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You're mistaking ram for internal storage with these figures.

using root explorer:
cache: 290 mb
data: 1156,93 mb
system: 549,2 mb
Thats more than 1gb in use, but way less than 4gb.
where is the rest ? who knows
ps: ram MIGHT be reported as less than 768 because the GPU takes some for itself

cocchiararo said:
using root explorer:
cache: 290 mb
data: 1156,93 mb
system: 549,2 mb
Thats more than 1gb in use, but way less than 4gb.
where is the rest ? who knows
ps: ram MIGHT be reported as less than 768 because the GPU takes some for itself
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Gpu takes ram, radio some, plus a few others.
Quick answer since this has been gone over many times in this forum alone. The phone has 4 gigs of internal storage, its formatted single layer, which is faster and more stable, but cuts the size in half. Now were down to 2 gigs of storage, and the OS and some other partitions reside here so take away a little less than a gig, and your down to a little over 1 gig of usable storage, which is exactly what we have.
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cocchiararo said:
ps: ram MIGHT be reported as less than 768 because the GPU takes some for itself
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And, depending on which rom you're using, ram compression.

di11igaf said:
Gpu takes ram, radio some, plus a few others.
Quick answer since this has been gone over many times in this forum alone. The phone has 4 gigs of internal storage, its formatted single layer, which is faster and more stable, but cuts the size in half. Now were down to 2 gigs of storage, and the OS and some other partitions reside here so take away a little less than a gig, and your down to a little over 1 gig of usable storage, which is exactly what we have.
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did i miss any partition ?
either i did, or it has less than 2gb
and about the SLC thing, i had seen this before, but i had also fogoten XD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#The_Missing_2GB
(different phone, similar stuff)

[Q] Possible to unlock the extra 3Gb of storage RAM?

The EVO 3D is basically the same phone as the Sensation with the addition of 3 extra Gb of RAM. The spec sheet for the Sensation on HTCs site lists 4Gb of RAM with a note that only 1Gb is user accessible.
Internal Memory
768 MB RAM, 4 GB Internal Storage (1 GB user addressable)
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HTC Sensation tech spec page
I remember when T-Mobile's version of the HD2 came out and it had 768 Mb of RAM vs the 512 in the European HD2s and there was a way to unlock the remainder of the RAM with a hack for the Euro models.
I'm sure given HTCs track record that they've used the same hardware (makes sense) to cut down on costs so it's just a matter of a hack from the community to unlock the remaining 3Gb of RAM.
What say ye?
Cyph

I guess you mean ROM and not RAM...and I've read that it is not possible...

Sure just buy a couple of DDR3 sticks and jam 'em in the microSD slot.

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Sure just buy a couple of DDR3 sticks and jam 'em in the microSD slot.
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nirvana2506 said:
I guess you mean ROM and not RAM...and I've read that it is not possible...
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No, said RAM, meant RAM....
You can do the research, I was going by memory but it actually had 1Gb of RAM vs the 448 in standard HD2s. The Euro HD2s had an unlock that at least gave them 576 Mb, I'm guessing the same will be true here.
Cyph

Madcypher said:
No, said RAM, meant RAM....
You can do the research, I was going by memory but it actually had 1Gb of RAM vs the 448 in standard HD2s. The Euro HD2s had an unlock that at least gave them 576 Mb, I'm guessing the same will be true here.
Cyph
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As you said in your first post, the Sensation is listed with 768 MB RAM, 4 GB Internal Storage (1 GB user addressable). Some of the 768 is then used for Android and Sense, with the remainder being open to run other applications. The 4 GB with 1 GB user addressable is NOT RAM. RAM is volatile (non-permanent) memory that is VERY fast and used to store the data for a currently running process. The user addressable space is non-volatile and is used for permanent storage of applications, contacts, photos, etc. It is not possible to use this as RAM as it is flash memory instead of using capacitors like the RAM found in cell phones (which provides the speed needed).
Some of the remaining 3 GB might be open in the future after the bootloader is unlocked and custom ROMs are flashed as they would be less memory intrusive than Sense. This might also free up some extra RAM from system use, but there is no possible way to increase it beyond 768 - whatever vanilla android requires to run.

Clarification regarding specs

Hello All,
I have started this thread as I couldn't find relevant info anywhere else. I purchased a Galaxy R 2 days back. As mentioned in the specifications on the box, the device has 1gb RAM and 8 gb internal storage along with 2gb ROM. However, when I check my device, it shows only 768 MB of RAM. Again internal storage shows to be only 3.75 GB and not 8 GB. Please comment.
If a similar thread exists, please merge, I couldn't find one.
Rituraj

yep I don't know how it should be (of cours beside RAM becouse its ok) but I have just like you in mine...

yep same like mine also..
8gb internal storage and u'll get 3.75gb..
if u wanna check again.. try it on SGSII 16gb.. only 12gb is usable for user..
so meaning almost 4gb of storage will be used up by android or samsung touchwiz? not sure though.. maybe some1 can explain better than me.
and the ram also the same. hope this help!

A lot of space is reserved/used by Android. You do not see it because an unrooted device does not have access to that area. Buy a cheap 32 gb sd card.

I think mrsaccess won't be mad if I link his post, where he explains that in a great, simple way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19756984&postcount=131

The SAMSUNG Specs for HK is User Memory: 8GB (ROM: 512MB ; RAM: 1GB)
The user memory includes RAM and ROM as well.
Internal USB Storage 3.75GB+ Internal Device Storage 1.5 GB+ RAM 1 GB. max (256 MB for GPU)+ ROM 512MB Usable (Max 2GB)
Can it be like above case? I saw some reviews and posts around the web saying like this. I am not sure, and someone can give more deep insights.
http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/consum...dex.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification

I don't think so.

Galaxy R specifications:
- 1GB of RAM (256MB for the GPU, 768MB are free).
- 8GB of internal storage (2GB ROM, 2GB for applications and 4GB as mass storage).

Fulgente said:
Galaxy R specifications:
- 1GB of RAM (256MB for the GPU, 768MB are free).
- 8GB of internal storage (2GB ROM, 2GB for applications and 4GB as mass storage).
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i see 724MB of RAM on my device right from the first day...

ofabhishek said:
i see 724MB of RAM on my device right from the first day...
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I assure you that everybody does!

Internal memory 9gb

Hey guys, my brand new out of the box htc one x shows 9gb free storage.., do you guys have the same?
i understand with the software comes out to be about 13gb but 9gb? is there something wrong with mine?

dorksturhh said:
Hey guys, my brand new out of the box htc one x shows 9gb free storage.., do you guys have the same?
i understand with the software comes out to be about 13gb but 9gb? is there something wrong with mine?
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Normal.

stnguyen09 said:
Normal.
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thanks, but now i feel ripped off!
first i saw 32gb ads, then expects atleast 16gb, found out to be 9gb..

dorksturhh said:
thanks, but now i feel ripped off!
first i saw 32gb ads, then expects atleast 16gb, found out to be 9gb..
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It's 16gb total on the att version, international is 32. I believe it's about 2gb for apps and 5 for os and system junk that is allocated.

dorksturhh said:
thanks, but now i feel ripped off!
first i saw 32gb ads, then expects atleast 16gb, found out to be 9gb..
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32 is for the international HOX. You still have 16gb of internal memory, but obviously that's not all accessible, which should've been obvious from the get-go. The system takes up space and I believe 2gb is reserved for apps and there are other partitions too that take up space.

The One X does seem to allocate a lot more storage to the OS, Apps, and System than previous HTC Android phones.
My HOX shows 2.21 GB total internal storage and 9.93 GB phone storage. That adds up to 12.14 GB. That means the OS, Apps, and System take up almost 4 GB. My older HTC Inspire 4G used about half of that.
A 16 GB iPhone or iPad has about 14 GB useable. It really sounds like they have allocated some extra storage for future expansion on some of the partitions.

Titanium Backup shows:
System ROM: 1.05
Internal: 2.37
SD Card: 10.6
I'm not sure where the remaining 2GB are. Does Android have a swap partition?

The system ROM is in EEPROM storage and doesn't use the flash memory.

GT-P3110 8gb shows me 4.5 gb ??

Hi guys got my device a week ago,flashed it with CM9 and its still showing me 4.5 gb instead of the 8gb
I paid for.
Is there a solution to fix this?
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That's normal. Should say you get whatever is left from the 8GB when we are finished.

Where does that 4gb been used then? Rom itself is around 150mb
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Even i am baffled with this. My P3100 is supposed to have 16GB but actually it is 11.89GB only. It is misrepresentation on Samsung part. They are cheating customers. User storage means pure user available storage.

I feel ripped of by this 8gb is nog much so 4.5 gigs is Just dissapointing...
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May be we all should collectively complaint to Samsung. Afterall we paid for it.

that 8 GB is used for your rom, cache, apps(pre-installed and user apps), app data, and whatever you put in your /mnt/sdcard folder.
and you already lose some space in the math. (no 8GB storage device is ever 8GB)

thedicemaster said:
that 8 GB is used for your rom, cache, apps(pre-installed and user apps), app data, and whatever you put in your /mnt/sdcard folder.
and you already lose some space in the math. (no 8GB storage device is ever 8GB)
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Then companies need to either tell Customers honestly that they will get only 4.5GB or put 12.5GB to give promised 8GB to customers. Why misrepresentation ? It amounts to cheating, technically.

silentvisitor said:
Then companies need to either tell Customers honestly that they will get only 4.5GB or put 12.5GB to give promised 8GB to customers. Why misrepresentation ? It amounts to cheating, technically.
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It's the same when you purchase a laptop with Windows preloaded . The catalog says that you have 120GB harddisk storage and 4GB system memory. But when you open your laptop and check the system information, you only have 120x1000MB/1024MB = 117GB and 20GB reserved by Win7 & NTFS default allocation size. And 512MB system memory reserved by VGA.... This is exactly the current presentation for any device.

@cfygeorge
Thanks for valuable info but what this Xx1000/1024 calculation is?
But RAM is still just 678mb out of said 1gb
Tab 2 P3100

I total agree with your logic, but On the Spec page Samsung does state 8gb User Memory. It doesn't say system memory.
I really wish they wouldn't use the memory term, It's storage not memory.
Dang IT!
cyfgeorge said:
It's the same when you purchase a laptop with Windows preloaded . The catalog says that you have 120GB harddisk storage and 4GB system memory. But when you open your laptop and check the system information, you only have 120x1000MB/1024MB = 117GB and 20GB reserved by Win7 & NTFS default allocation size. And 512MB system memory reserved by VGA.... This is exactly the current presentation for any device.
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@cfygeorge
Thanks for valuable info but what this Xx1000/1024 calculation is?
But RAM is still just 678mb out of said 1gb
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Dead simple. Hardware manifacturers usually calculate 1 GB as 1000 MB. That's not correct as 1GB is 1024 MB.
About RAM: There is 1 GB on board. Some of it is reserved for OS operations and some is reserved for the GPU. So user RAM is 678 MB. We has this RAM discussions ever since the HD2 :laugh:

Oh...me ignorant child...
I never knew RAM too can be reserved.
Thanks for info
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Now I even strongly believe manufacturers (Samsung in this case) should give net figures available to the user like 12gb of Storage and 678mb of user available RAM.
Current arrangement is not acceptable. Will write to Samsung for sure.

cyfgeorge said:
It's the same when you purchase a laptop with Windows preloaded . The catalog says that you have 120GB harddisk storage and 4GB system memory. But when you open your laptop and check the system information, you only have 120x1000MB/1024MB = 117GB and 20GB reserved by Win7 & NTFS default allocation size. And 512MB system memory reserved by VGA.... This is exactly the current presentation for any device.
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The thing is i flashed it from original to cm9 because i thougt custom roms are faster,use less storage,..it is faster but 4.5 GB is nothing most smartphones have more space then this tablet. There must be a way to increase the storage or this device should not be on the market imo or at least for half price so we Get what we pay for.

n1t0h said:
The thing is i flashed it from original to cm9 because i thougt custom roms are faster,use less storage,..it is faster but 4.5 GB is nothing most smartphones have more space then this tablet. There must be a way to increase the storage or this device should not be on the market imo or at least for half price so we Get what we pay for.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vz3H3vbAwk&feature=related
this guy had the same issue as me with the storage and he sais he got rid of the bloatware and now he has the 8gb he paid for.
is it not possible to wipe the whole tablet and flash it with cm9 so i have more storage space then i do now?