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internal memory?

I rooted my inspire 4G phone, and installed CoreDroid_Desire_HD_GB_2.3.3_V5.4.
Today I noticed
in Quadrant => System Information, it shows:
Memory
Total: 636132kB <== only 600MB internal memory !?
Free: 54728KB
Inactive 182592kB
In Setting=>SD and Phone Storage,
I see SD card of Total Space: 7.39GB
but, Internal storage available space is only 640MB
In Android Booster, it shows:
Memory available: 156/621MB
Since AT&T website says that this phone is supposed to have 4GB internal memory and 8GB miscroSD card. According to what it shows above, is it really the case? What happened to the 4GB internal memory? I don't know how it was before I rooted the phone. Can anyone help? Thanks!

people still ask that question by the way before root it came with one gig try formating
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Internal is 4gigs, but only 1 gig available.

where 3GB goes?

zstone123 said:
Memory
Total: 636132kB <== only 600MB internal memory !?
Free: 54728KB
Inactive 182592kB
In Setting=>SD and Phone Storage,
I see SD card of Total Space: 7.39GB
but, Internal storage available space is only 640MB
In Android Booster, it shows:
Memory available: 156/621MB
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You're mistaking ram for internal storage with these figures.

using root explorer:
cache: 290 mb
data: 1156,93 mb
system: 549,2 mb
Thats more than 1gb in use, but way less than 4gb.
where is the rest ? who knows
ps: ram MIGHT be reported as less than 768 because the GPU takes some for itself

cocchiararo said:
using root explorer:
cache: 290 mb
data: 1156,93 mb
system: 549,2 mb
Thats more than 1gb in use, but way less than 4gb.
where is the rest ? who knows
ps: ram MIGHT be reported as less than 768 because the GPU takes some for itself
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Gpu takes ram, radio some, plus a few others.
Quick answer since this has been gone over many times in this forum alone. The phone has 4 gigs of internal storage, its formatted single layer, which is faster and more stable, but cuts the size in half. Now were down to 2 gigs of storage, and the OS and some other partitions reside here so take away a little less than a gig, and your down to a little over 1 gig of usable storage, which is exactly what we have.
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cocchiararo said:
ps: ram MIGHT be reported as less than 768 because the GPU takes some for itself
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And, depending on which rom you're using, ram compression.

di11igaf said:
Gpu takes ram, radio some, plus a few others.
Quick answer since this has been gone over many times in this forum alone. The phone has 4 gigs of internal storage, its formatted single layer, which is faster and more stable, but cuts the size in half. Now were down to 2 gigs of storage, and the OS and some other partitions reside here so take away a little less than a gig, and your down to a little over 1 gig of usable storage, which is exactly what we have.
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did i miss any partition ?
either i did, or it has less than 2gb
and about the SLC thing, i had seen this before, but i had also fogoten XD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#The_Missing_2GB
(different phone, similar stuff)

[Q] available memory only showing less than 400m

How come my transformer onlyy show less than 400m memory available in the task killer?. I removed all the Widgets and haven't install any extra apps besides angry bird games. The available memory still showing less than 500M. Hows your transformer available memory show?

With 512 MB RAM you get 100-250 MB of free RAM, so >400MB is more than enough for everything !
And you have 1GB for USE not for FREE/USELESS ...
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But I thought it has 1gb of ram?

sic_lic1o1 said:
But I thought it has 1gb of ram?
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It is.. but the graphics and the OS take up a chunk of it don't forget.

I've seen this question pop up on ever forum for every 1GB device I've looked at so far. There's 1GB of RAM minus what the GPU uses minus what the OS uses. Should be an automatic sticky.

Amount of RAM

Everything I have seen on the internet (including HTC's own specs page) shows the EVO SHift having 512 MB of RAM. However, it seems as if my system only has 368 MB (as detected by V6 Supercharger and a couple hardware info apps I downloaded from the market). Does anybody know why this would be the case? My phone is newer (just got it a little over a month ago). Could HTC have lessened the amount of RAM in the new Shifts?

Also, I am running MikShifted-G v1.6 if that makes any difference.

Mine says I have 367,haha, i believe it might only show total available after all the system android stuff... I am probally wrong because I have AOSP which is so much smaller and less bloated that your sense and i have less.. Haha.. But idk... Just speculation
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mine shows,
internal 452/321 free
rom 410/91.9 free

This might help explain things better
]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023[/URL]
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Thanks for the link, but I'm just talking about total RAM, not amount free. Everything indicates I have 368 MB of RAM (not internal storage or ROM or anything, but actual RAM). The Evo Shift supposedly has 512 MB, but I know the HTC Merge has 368 MB, so I was wondering if they lowered the RAM on the newer Shifts.
To check the RAM, download the app Android System Info. It is not Internal Memory, but RAM. Mine says Max 368 MB.

My mistake

trsix said:
Has anyone added more ram? Ive seen 1 gig sticks for$38. I might have to try if noone else has. Curious if it might speed the shift up.?
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They're talking about internal memory on the phone. Are you talking about an sdcard?

Its possible the gpu has an amount dedicated to it that will not be shown. Sort of like checking the ram on a laptop will show less than the stated specs

[Q] How much RAM has Xperia miro?

On GSMarena (and everywhere on internet) I saw that Xperia Miro has 512 MB of RAM, but every app (like Watchdog, Go Launcher) that I used shows 401 MB of RAM. I have STOCK Android, no root. Is 111MB of RAM used by OS or it's something else?

Croatoan® said:
On GSMarena (and everywhere on internet) I saw that Xperia Miro has 512 MB of RAM, but every app (like Watchdog, Go Launcher) that I used shows 401 MB of RAM. I have STOCK Android, no root. Is 111MB of RAM used by OS or it's something else?
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The memory figure for anything (RAM, HDD, SSD and what not), is only an approximation. During production of these memory devices, the actual value is almost always less than the figure given by the OEM. Having said that, the OS may have certain uses of the RAM but are not displayed on the task manager.

The carrier may limit the ram, I know the HTC dream was limited to 384mb by tmobile
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jay_r95 said:
The memory figure for anything (RAM, HDD, SSD and what not), is only an approximation. During production of these memory devices, the actual value is almost always less than the figure given by the OEM. Having said that, the OS may have certain uses of the RAM but are not displayed on the task manager.
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Approximation of by 10% is very lousy approximation. On PC if you have 3GB of RAM you have ~3GB of RAM, not 2.7GB of RAM but memory figure for HDD and SSD are shown in TB but they are really in TiB (TB=1024 GB and TiB=1000 GB, ...). Does on your phone, your RAM memory figure is smaller in task manager because of OS?

Why does it say I only have 1794 mb of RaM?

When I go to Antutu or Ram Booster they say I only have 1794 mb of ram what happen to the other 250 mb?

fleen said:
When I go to Antutu or Ram Booster they say I only have 1794 mb of ram what happen to the other 250 mb?
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Hi,
Nothing wrong, the rest is for system, GPU (in short)... Not all the RAM is available for the userspace.

Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
Hi,
Nothing wrong, the rest is for system, GPU (in short)... Not all the RAM is available for the userspace.
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Thanks for the quick reply, does this happen to all phones or just the nexus 5?
I feel like it should be better implemented like have 250mb of its own ram or use at it is needed not just take away from me 250 mb of ram.

fleen said:
Thanks for the quick reply, does this happen to all phones or just the nexus 5?
I feel like it should be better implemented like have 250mb of its own ram or use at it is needed not just take away from me 250 mb of ram.
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As far as I know, at least for all devices I owned, it's always the same thing (some devices with 1Gb RAM had something like 768 Mb available stock)...
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the available RAM detected from Antutu or RAM Booster or another apps.

fleen said:
Thanks for the quick reply, does this happen to all phones or just the nexus 5?
I feel like it should be better implemented like have 250mb of its own ram or use at it is needed not just take away from me 250 mb of ram.
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It is like that for absolutely everything. PCs/Notebooks, Tablets, Phones, etc. It's normal.

Just remember one thing that with a build.prop edit (by adding a line) you can fake the available RAM in Settings/About phone (like you can show some CPU info), but I don't know if some apps detect it (I think but... not sure ).
Maybe something like "ro.product.************" .
Maybe a Google search will give you the trick, just a cosmetic thing since the real available RAM is "hardcoded"

mmmmBACON said:
It is like that for absolutely everything. PCs/Notebooks, Tablets, Phones, etc. It's normal.
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Don't pc graphic cards have dedicated memory?
So they don't take "my" memory

fleen said:
Don't pc graphic cards have dedicated memory?
So they don't take "my" memory
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Yes, but those are dedicated "add-on" cards and are generally limited to PCs and gaming notebooks. The OS would still be using the main system memory. If you had 16GB RAM, the OS and any other processes would be using it regardless. You would never have 16GB available to you. Also, even if you had dedicated memory on the graphics card some of it will also be used regardless without your knowledge.
Any SoC uses the systems main memory.
If you want the full 2GB available to you, have fun never turning on your phone. If you want 2GB only for you, then the system has nothing to run on.
Memory is there to be used. Having a separate section for the OS and 2GB only for your choosing is pointless and inefficient.

mmmmBACON said:
Yes, but those are dedicated "add-on" cards and are generally limited to PCs and gaming notebooks. The OS would still be using the main system memory. If you had 16GB RAM, the OS and any other processes would be using it regardless. You would never have 16GB available to you. Also, even if you had dedicated memory on the graphics card some of it will also be used regardless without your knowledge.
Any SoC uses the systems main memory.
If you want the full 2GB available to you, have fun never turning on your phone. If you want 2GB only for you, then the system has nothing to run on.
Memory is there to be used. Having a separate section for the OS and 2GB only for your choosing is pointless and inefficient.
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I think what the OP is trying to ask is why is the hardware only detecting 1794mb of total actual RAM? Not how much ram the OS utilizes.
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mmmmBACON said:
Yes, but those are dedicated "add-on" cards and are generally limited to PCs and gaming notebooks. The OS would still be using the main system memory. If you had 16GB RAM, the OS and any other processes would be using it regardless. You would never have 16GB available to you. Also, even if you had dedicated memory on the graphics card some of it will also be used regardless without your knowledge.
Any SoC uses the systems main memory.
If you want the full 2GB available to you, have fun never turning on your phone. If you want 2GB only for you, then the system has nothing to run on.
Memory is there to be used. Having a separate section for the OS and 2GB only for your choosing is pointless and inefficient.
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I don't have a problem (well I do but not as much) with the OS and GPU use the 2GB of ram I have available but it should be something like like 300mb out of 2048mb (300/2048) of available ram not just cut my 2Gb of ram to 1794. What if the OS only needs 200 I still would not have 1894mb my max available ram is always 1794.

fleen said:
I don't have a problem (well I do but not as much) with the OS and GPU use the 2GB of ram I have available but it should be something like like 300mb out of 2048mb (300/2048) of available ram not just cut my 2Gb of ram to 1794. What if the OS only needs 200 I still would not have 1894mb my max available ram is always 1794.
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its not out of 2048MB for one
its 2GiB, not 2GB
from wikipedia
Although most manufacturers of hard disk drives and flash-memory disk devicesdefine 1 gigabyte as 1000000000bytes, software like Microsoft Windows reports size in gigabytes by dividing the total capacity in bytes by 1073741824 (230 = 1 gibibyte), while still reporting the result with the symbol "GB". This practice causes confusion, as a hard disk with an advertised capacity of, for example, "400 GB" (meaning 400000000000bytes) might be reported by the operating system as only "372 GB" (meaning 372 GiB). Other software, like Mac OS X 10.6[5] and some components of the Linux kernel[6] measure using the decimal units. The JEDEC memory standards uses the IEEE 100 nomenclatures which defines a gigabyte as 1073741824bytes (or 230 bytes).
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Zepius said:
its not out of 2048MB for one
its 2GiB, not 2GB
from wikipedia
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2 GiB is 1024x1024x1024. HDD / MMC / SSD use GB (1000x1000x1000) not GiB, however this is for storage. RAM is usually binary 1024... so it most likely is out of 2048.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte
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fleen said:
I don't have a problem (well I do but not as much) with the OS and GPU use the 2GB of ram I have available but it should be something like like 300mb out of 2048mb (300/2048) of available ram not just cut my 2Gb of ram to 1794. What if the OS only needs 200 I still would not have 1894mb my max available ram is always 1794.
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Oh, well don't worry, you have 2GB RAM. It might just be the way it is displayed in Antutu. CPU-Z displays the total amount of RAM as 1855MB. Not exactly consistent between programs.

mmmmBACON said:
Oh, well don't worry, you have 2GB RAM. It might just be the way it is displayed in Antutu. CPU-Z displays the total amount of RAM as 1855MB. Not exactly consistent between programs.
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I will just try to ignore this and I will be happier I guess, my cpu-z still says 1794MB total ram.

The device has 2GB of RAM but you the "BIOS" or whatever controller is in there allocates some for itself and the hardware in the phone (mainly GPU) and the rest is left to the OS.
Sharing RAM is good in general but many systems require X amount of RAM whether it's actively being used or not as it's designed to be able to use it. if it were to call on that memory address and it's full the system would crash (or a STOP error).
So instead of sharing it and allocating it as needed, it's locked off totally from the OS in the event it's ever needed by the hardware.

rootSU said:
2 GiB is 1024x1024x1024. HDD / MMC / SSD use GB (1000x1000x1000) not GiB, however this is for storage. RAM is usually binary 1024... so it most likely is out of 2048.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte
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And that's why they make 512MB RAM modules instead of 500MB

fleen said:
Thanks for the quick reply, does this happen to all phones or just the nexus 5?
I feel like it should be better implemented like have 250mb of its own ram or use at it is needed not just take away from me 250 mb of ram.
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Happens to all phones.

Ok guys i get the gist of it now, thank you all.