Why does it seem like the galaxy tab gets more developer attention than the xoom? Is it easier or what? They have all kinds of roms whereas the xoom has like 2. Just a question.
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The car thing is some what right. The xoom came out as a "kit car", you'll need this and that BEFORE you can drive it. Where as the galaxy came complete. You can just drive it off the lot. So there is more interest in the galaxy.
That seems lame. I love my xoom. Just want to customize it more. I have no developing skills although I wish I had some. I used a adb for the first time with the xoom and it took a lot of trial and error. I have the galaxy s and flashing stuff is so easy on it(via Odin and cwm). Just wish the xoom would get more attention.
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The reason why we are not seeing ROM's is because the Honeycomb source code has not been release nor will it ever be. We will have to wait until Ice Cream Sandwich for ROM's to start popping up.
Thanks for the info gq. Seems pretty craptacular....hahaha. Well c'mon ICS. Can't wait for that release
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Also can't wait for Ice Cream Sandwich!
Need some rom for my xomm
last I heard, ICS isn't coming until Q3ish. Any updates?
Q3 Q4 who knows for sure. They just need to hurry up. It feels like tablets are kinda lacking in dev stuff.
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why in iconia tab they are able to have touchwiz and is not the same for us?
for you in the next future will be possible to mount web os3 on our xoom?
and that you know is there some new launcher dedicate to honeycomb? or u know if some one is developing it?
i love my xoom like it is, but i love play on it too.
andrea
I try to donate to all who develope for my devices, my way of letting them know its appriciated and to keep up the good work, if you cant spare much, no biggie, everyone likes to get donations, even if its a dollar or two.
On another note we could make it appear to be a rom, but would only be a theme, a sham. Its definatly source code realese that is the problem.
Ice cream sanwich is google bringing honeycomb to the phone right, i thought, ics on phones, but honeycomb on tablets(because of its tablet opimization). Someone please correct me if im wrong, still fuzzy on the part.
Last thing, still cant decode 3.2 apks with sdk, still getting brut error, anyone have any knowledge of when brut will be realeasing this fix?
ICS is supposed to be the best from gingerbread and the best from honeycomb mashed together with some other goodies included, hince the name it is also to be universal for both phones and tablets, that way making apps much more abundant.
I am also excited for what it will bring the demo at the google i/o conf was amazing to say the least and i am sure the just scratched the surface.
Don't forget that alot of developers were give a samsung Google I.O.
I'm sure it helped a bit not having to pay for one.
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DJ_Steve is the man! Got that Honeycomb 3.1 running on my streak thanks to him and Hellzya! This really makes the device much sexier. The density issue is small for me since I don't have a problem reading small print, but it doesn't work for my dad at all.. luckily most web browsers support a zoom feature as that is the primary reason we have the tab. I have no questions... I'm a noob yes... but only to these boards. Not to rooting or anything like that. I love android... hell even jailbroke a few ipods. I'm just not a programmer or anything like that. If I were I wouldn't hesitate to offer help for all this beautiful android hacking.
keith.valdez said:
DJ_Steve is the man! Got that Honeycomb 3.1 running on my streak thanks to him and Hellzya! This really makes the device much sexier. The density issue is small for me since I don't have a problem reading small print, but it doesn't work for my dad at all.. luckily most web browsers support a zoom feature as that is the primary reason we have the tab. I have no questions... I'm a noob yes... but only to these boards. Not to rooting or anything like that. I love android... hell even jailbroke a few ipods. I'm just not a programmer or anything like that. If I were I wouldn't hesitate to offer help for all this beautiful android hacking.
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I have a HoneycomB theme running on my HD2 and love it. It's actually a Gingerbread/CM7 ROM and CM7 is pure excellence. Android and CM7 is heaven
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I have a HoneycomB theme running on my HD2 and love it. It's actually a Gingerbread/CM7 ROM and CM7 is pure excellence. Android and CM7 is heaven
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I have CM7 on my Optimus v. I LOVE THIS THING. It's made everything about this phone, especially the battery life, better. Rooting is fun. lol. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKK OOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUTTTTTTT!!!
HoneyComb is awesome!!!!
Yeah,honeycomb is awesome.Only problem is that Google decided to become [email protected]*ckers on the matter and don't release the damn source code so that it could be ported to phones.Yes,Ice Cream Sandwich will have Honeycomb's features and is near to be released,but is it the spirit of XDA to wait for official stuff?Nah,I don't think so.
Come on Google,Android is supposed to be open.I don't want to buy a tablet.Not yet at least,I don't like the Tegra 2(The Exynos on my Galaxy S II makes Tegra 2 devices look like cheap toys,that's why ).And when the Tegra 3 will be out,Ice Cream Sandwich will be out too.
tolis626 said:
Yeah,honeycomb is awesome.Only problem is that Google decided to become [email protected]*ckers on the matter and don't release the damn source code so that it could be ported to phones.Yes,Ice Cream Sandwich will have Honeycomb's features and is near to be released,but is it the spirit of XDA to wait for official stuff?Nah,I don't think so.
Come on Google,Android is supposed to be open.I don't want to buy a tablet.Not yet at least,I don't like the Tegra 2(The Exynos on my Galaxy S II makes Tegra 2 devices look like cheap toys,that's why ).And when the Tegra 3 will be out,Ice Cream Sandwich will be out too.
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Why wait? Have some HC goodness with a GB-CM7 HC themed ROM.
I love the way youtube looks on HC. I just wish more apps worked on it. I many of my favorite apps crash on me in HC, but they aren't things I can't live without. Besides, whatever doesn't run there typically does on the phone so I still get my apps one way or another. One day we will have android installed in our brains and I will have to root myself.
Am I the only one thinking/hoping that we are getting Ice Cream Sandwich??? I mean it releases on October 11124 and we still don't have gingerbread you know? This is just hopeful thinking... it would be nice to have the absolute latest OS and features though
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Doubt it. We'll probably get Ginger in a week or two and come next year sometime, we'll get icecream.maybe.
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Nah... ATT is just slow.
Thumb rule: We are always a release behind
I don't mean to be pessimistic but that sounds very unlikely.
Maybe in the long run, but even that seems unlikely since new phones are coming out all the time.
Also, Samsung hasn't expressed much love for the Infuse so I doubt they would spend much time making an official ICS ROM for it.
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I don't mean to be pessimistic but that sounds very unlikely.
Maybe in the long run, but even that seems unlikely since new phones are coming out all the time.
Also, Samsung hasn't expressed much love for the Infuse so I doubt they would spend much time making an official ICS ROM for it.
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Yea I see what you're saying but I mean something should click in there heads to update a great phone with great firmware, jus makes it better...
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Chances of ICS on the Infuse - extremely slim.
They're pretty good for the GSII though.
Just hope for a leak.
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Yea I see what you're saying but I mean something should click in there heads to update a great phone with great firmware, jus makes it better...
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It's all about marketing man. Update a phone less, spend money advertising for a better phone (SGSII) and finally get a higher return in $.
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Hell no...
Ex captivate owners will tell you...
People forget that the captivate came with eclair and that gingerbread was released before the captivate even got froyo...
No we will not get ice cream sandwich before gingerbread ...
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I read a lot of places, sorry i do not have the links, that once they have it, it should work with anything, just the software mods itself when it is installed on the phone/tablet/computer (if they make any). It sounds pretty out there, but it is nice to dream. If it would work, then the only updates that the phones would need from the carriers/manufacturers are the modems and kernels.
I would say yes way down the line but the sgs2 is gonna get all the love
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I took the OP as are we gonna see 4.0 before 2.3.....and that answer is a big fat no....
Are we gonna get ICS at some point? Probably ...
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im probably wrong, but im for sure i read somewhere saying that ICS was gunna be an operating system that was like for all android phones? what i mean is that ICS is gunna be one platform for all android phones like iOS for the iphone. idk
Who cares..., am I the only one who thinks that AAAALLLLL the OS's look the freaking Sam with a different number? Its like with my infuse when we went from froyo to "gingerbread" the only real advantage I noticed was a couple of features added, like tthe FRONT facing camera working with Skype, and other silly stuff like that. For instance, MIUI is a whole new beast on its own but speed dial option is eluding me lol
I guess I'm more or less rudely asking for a bonus feature list from ICS.
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The Infuse is the new Optimus, aka poor mans smart phone. I had a customer tell me today he wouldnt give 2 squirts of piss for the Infuse, that pretty much sums it up.
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im probably wrong, but im for sure i read somewhere saying that ICS was gunna be an operating system that was like for all android phones? what i mean is that ICS is gunna be one platform for all android phones like iOS for the iphone. idk
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"all" in the generic sense - instead of having 2.x for phones and 3.x for tablets, 4.0 will support both phones and tablets.
However, every device that Android runs on needs customizations specific to the hardware. In many cases, those hardware drivers/libraries are closed source so it's not easy to port them unless the manufacturer does.
"all" in this case means a manufacturer can do a device bringup of 4.x on a tablet or a phone. But someone still needs to do the device bringup, and on a device with lots of closed-source proprietary bits, device bringup can be difficult if not impossible. Look at the state of CM7 for example - it didn't really get off the ground until Rogers released Gingerbread because the Froyo libraries weren't compatible with Gingerbread, and even with the Rogers proprietary bits, some things still don't work.
If it comes to the Infuse it won't be before May. Probably closer to a year from now.
The joys of fragmentation.
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Icecream Sandwick
I want icecream but For now I think i am going to stick to dlev rom cause it runs great.
Patience...it's coming
Alot of people don't really understand the process of releasing an OS update for an android. From what I can gather, Google releases the OS to the manufacturers which then tailor it to the individual phones. Then they release it to the providers (AT&T, Sprint etc.) which tailor it to their network and pollute it with bloatware. When they're sure it's somewhat error free, they release it to us.
AT&T for example, is frantically trying to finish their version, but they obviously have an issue or two...or twenty...who knows. They have to finish it, compile it, then do test updates, then test the updates and pray it worked. It takes time. I am far from patient so I already installed the GB 2.3.5 leak and can honestly say it's a major improvement. Bluetooth works better, everything is faster, and those annoying lags whenever you do a level 2 memory clear or detach the USB are fixed. But the leak has its issues, so I'm giving AT&T the benefit of the doubt and waiting to see if the mid October release actually happens. But since they lied and failed to deliver in September, I'm not holding my breath.
As far as ICS is concerned, I doubt AT&T has even had a chance to look at it yet. I would be amazed if we saw it this time next year. But we will get it. LOTS of people have the Infuse so it's not going to be left out or treated like a forgotten step-child like some people claim. It's a great phone with one of the nicest, biggest displays you can get, and it runs anything you throw at it even with its single core processor. What makes the Infuse bad is forcing it to run on AT&T.
So seeing as google just had their conference as well as the release of the ICS SDK, will we be able to see some ROMS come to our device? I don't know anything about coding or any of this stuff, but ICS does look tasty.
SDK is for app develop... not for Rom developing =(
Ics source code has to be released for custom roms
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We have to wait for the system
dump onto the Android source site it will probably be a week it two after the nexus is released. That's the usual way it had worked in the past.
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Oh gotcha. I didn't know that. Well either way I'm excited for ICS.
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I am interested to see if CM will make use of this now! I have CM7.1 on my phone right now and love it over ASOP 2.3.4. Any one know if they will work on moving to the 4.0 source now?
Well, a off-topic comment on AndroidCentral said that XDA already has it's hands on the Nexus system dump.
I have a viewsonic gTablet too, and I have tried some ROMs based on Honeycomb "dumps" from the Xoom, I was very unimpressed (by no fault of the developers, they did amazing work on porting things) so I think I will wait on roms built from source rather than a dump from phone with different hardware.
CyanogenMod 9 (yes, that's right: 9) will be based on ICS. Hopefully it's just a matter of time before we see it on the DHD/Inspire.
I was more interested in the 4.65" 1280x720 display. The pixel density is almost the same as a iPhone 4
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CyanogenMod 9 (yes, that's right: 9) will be based on ICS. Hopefully it's just a matter of time before we see it on the DHD/Inspire.
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Why not 8? Is the CM team going to skip 8 in favor of 9?
Also, from all the information I've read, nobody still makes a clear statement on this: Is Ice Cream Sandwich hardware accelerated? Because if it's not, that's a huge shame.
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Why not 8? Is the CM team going to skip 8 in favor of 9?
Also, from all the information I've read, nobody still makes a clear statement on this: Is Ice Cream Sandwich hardware accelerated? Because if it's not, that's a huge shame.
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CM8 will be honeycomb (3.0) if the source ever gets released... which would make ICS (4.0) CM9.
Let me google that 2nd question for you
Ha - not being a ****, just always wanted to use a lmgtfy link
They could technically make something based on the SDK (something DeeperBlue did for the Nook Color with Honeycomb), but since we expect a soon-ish source release for ICS, putting all of that work into it would be kind of ridiculous
Yes it will be hardware accelerated
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...am-sandwich-to-feature-hardware-acceleration/
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Why not 8? Is the CM team going to skip 8 in favor of 9?
Also, from all the information I've read, nobody still makes a clear statement on this: Is Ice Cream Sandwich hardware accelerated? Because if it's not, that's a huge shame.
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CM8 will be honeycomb (3.0) if the source ever gets released... which would make ICS (4.0) CM9.
Let me google that 2nd question for you
Ha - not being a ****, just always wanted to use a lmgtfy link
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Just read this article it doesn't give an eta but its promising.
http://phandroid.com/2011/10/19/goo...-cream-sandwich-source-code-to-the-aosp-soon/
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So seeing as google just had their conference as well as the release of the ICS SDK, will we be able to see some ROMS come to our device? I don't know anything about coding or any of this stuff, but ICS does look tasty.
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I've been out of the game since I first rooted my phone, so you're thinking the Inspire will be able to run the new ICS phone OS?
I may have to start reading up on how to do this stuff again, this one looks awesome.
Galaxy Nexus system dump
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18547878
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310943
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I've been out of the game since I first rooted my phone, so you're thinking the Inspire will be able to run the new ICS phone OS?
I may have to start reading up on how to do this stuff again, this one looks awesome.
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yes it will be able to run it, seeing as we saw it being tested on a nexus s, which has less ram and what in my opinion is a crappier processor(still pretty good though), so im pretty sure itlll run it just fine
i have my fingers crossed that di11igaf will make another amazing rom (sandwichbeast? icecreambeast? icemonster? abominablesnowman?)!!! If not, then i'll be waiting for cm9 to hit!
There is a nice ICS ADW theme out there right now. No functionality, but the look and feel is cool.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/09/hp-webos-to-live-on-through-open-source-hardware-lineup-still/
Hey guys,
From what I've read on the forums I think most of us nexus users used to have a Palm Pre running webOS. I just have a quick question for the awesome devs in this community.
Now that webOS has gone completely open source, do you guys thinks there is a way to port a rom for the NS4G or NS?
Thanks
... that is a possbility, but a utterly pointless direction for the Nexus S where Ice Cream Sandwich is far more superior than the state of webOS
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... that is a possbility, but a utterly pointless direction for the Nexus S where Ice Cream Sandwich is far more superior than the state of webOS
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Lots of things on WebOS run another than Android buy at this point it is pointless with ICS. Prior it would have been great but I would love the card implementation
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I cant wait to give it a try. Even if a lot of users see no point, it sounds like fun.
Yeah, just for fun would be great and with the speed of the nexus it would be a great dual boot option.
I really miss the cards and notifications on webos, even the ICS still don't compare on how they worked.
Once they realease the source code let's hope someone would help. I would gladly do it but i have no idea on how to compile Roms.
If someone has a 101 or a tutorial to read, would be great.
I'd like to see a webos style launcher with theme support come from this.
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Yes, Ice Cream Sandwich is great and all but that doesn't mean it isn't worth giving it a shot. Hell I miss WebOS like crazy.
And ironically I had came here to post if someone could try and port it. Nice to see I wasn't the only one thinking this.
Love the first comment
xda + WebOS = FTW
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Nuff said.
A port for us would be amazing
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Would be nice to see this
I would love to see this happen. WebOS is awesome
So Ubuntu announced some new stuff for us yesterday.....
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
22 min video http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cpWHJDLsqTU
At the 21 minute mark he says if your phone works with Android then it will work with Ubuntu.... I wonder how that process will work. I also am interested in how to get all our awesome Android apps working too. Another problem will be the lack of video out for us... Anyways, discuss!!
I myself am getting pretty excited about this, I wasn't planning on getting a new phone til the flexible phones came out but this is big news! I might even trade for a Nexus if the dock is small and portable. I wonder how quick it will be ported to our phone?
I'm very excited myself. However in a few months I leave on a LDS mission and will be out with no tech. For 2 years. So I'll only hope this gets put on our phone
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ZDNet had a nice article on it but it sounds like it will be an option for the manufactures to offer than a ROM to port.. Ubuntu offers an arm version that you can install and run from within android and that works great, it already works WITH android, this would basicly be an option for the carrier to provide, at Ubuntu there is a link to get their assistance in building ubuntu for specific devices if someone with more time wants to chase it a little. it would be pretty awesome tho.
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Yea I think they chose the galaxy nexus because there is full source release instead of the nexus 4. I am hoping that wont be too much of a problem and we can just mod the original release and it wont be too much of a problem. I'm pretty sure android stuff will work with it too, just we will have to download an emulator or some sort. I'll be keeping an eye on this one...