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While I know that Apple has all of their information locked up tighter than Fort Knox, I was wondering if it would be feasible to create an application to "act like" an Ipod with other hardware. IE my head unit in my car that works wonderfully with Ipod but cannot even "see" my Android phones.
If that's not possible at all, is there a way to get my head unit to see my N1 as an actual jump drive (which is supported by the unit)?
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While I know that Apple has all of their information locked up tighter than Fort Knox, I was wondering if it would be feasible to create an application to "act like" an Ipod with other hardware. IE my head unit in my car that works wonderfully with Ipod but cannot even "see" my Android phones.
If that's not possible at all, is there a way to get my head unit to see my N1 as an actual jump drive (which is supported by the unit)?
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I hope I don't get beat up over this, but... "Head Unit"? I can assume you mean a Bluetooth stereo headset possibly?
My Kensington Bluetooth Stereo headset works fine with my nexus... But again, not sure if this is what you are referring to.
I think maybe he is referring to an audio in port that recognizes ipods, but not his nexus one maybe?
Im sure by head unit he means his car's stereo. and If you can get the nexus into USB drive mode your stereo should recognize it.
I am referring to a USB connection to my "car stereo". Not using Bluetooth.
When I am connected to my g/f's iPod, it works so seamlessly it's insane. Shows album art, all things are controlled directly from the head unit ....
I guess looking for an interface to communicate between the head unit and the N1. Would presume it's possible since the interface protocol is in the wild for devs. I just personally don't know a darned thing about it.
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Im sure by head unit he means his car's stereo. and If you can get the nexus into USB drive mode your stereo should recognize it.
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It doesn't... Not on mine or 3 other USB equipped head units I have tried it on.
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I am referring to a USB connection to my "car stereo". Not using Bluetooth.
When I am connected to my g/f's iPod, it works so seamlessly it's insane. Shows album art, all things are controlled directly from the head unit ....
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What head unit do you have, and how do you like it? (Offtopic, yes, but I'm looking for a new, good head unit for my car that has great iPod functionality. )
Well I have a double din and not sure what you require. I am running the Pioneer AVH-P3200DVD. It really has come a long way with integration. Just wish others would realize there is much more out there than Mac-n-Crap.
try and mount the phones sd card when it is plugd in to the Head Unit
and use bplayer or meridian as music app Works for me
The problem isn't the phone, it's the unit.
I have a Pioneer as well (http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Premi..._6?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1274031647&sr=1-6)
And it's the same ****. Won't recognize my Zune at all through the USB, and it sometimes recognizes the android phone when it's set to USB, but then it grabs every audio file in the phone, which is a bunch of crap i don't want.
But anyway, It's because Pioneer only made it support/look for apple devices. So anything else it just doesn't recognize. On mine the only thing that works perfectly is a USB flash drive. i have an 8GB unit pluged in with all my music and it works perfectly. but try anything else and it rarely works.
And unfortunately, just like you said, you'd need to make the phone look like an ipod and add all that software in, which just isn't possible.
So basically, your gonna have to get it to work by mounting the USB, or using another media player such as the ones jtz100 mentioned.
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While I know that Apple has all of their information locked up tighter than Fort Knox, I was wondering if it would be feasible to create an application to "act like" an Ipod with other hardware. IE my head unit in my car that works wonderfully with Ipod but cannot even "see" my Android phones.
If that's not possible at all, is there a way to get my head unit to see my N1 as an actual jump drive (which is supported by the unit)?
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Actually it used to work fine when android used 1.1 after they switched the way the usb connectivity worked it doesn't work well at all
get a usb mounting app and try
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Actually it used to work fine when android used 1.1 after they switched the way the usb connectivity worked it doesn't work well at all
get a usb mounting app and try
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A USB mounting app? As in the auto mount?
Going to test out Meridian in a few but I would love to see someone emulate the iPod interface so that our phones will work with any and all "Crapple" devices.
What tablet do I get?
I was wondering if anyone had any good suggestions for a tablet to install into my dash. The Archos 5 IMT looks like it has almost everything I want, but I would really like a 7".
It needs:
Built-in GPS (or enough ports for a dongle, and support for a dongle. I don't want bluetooth, because I don't want to have to worry about it losing power)
FM receiver (I know there are internet radio apps, but I want to be able to use this offline.. if it's possible)
Capacitive screen (Cause I want it) with a wide viewing angle.
I don't care much about which version of Android it has, it will pretty much just be used for GPS and Music/video.
As a side note, I'm still doing research, but if anyone knows how to, or knows where there's a tutorial, I need to figure out how to hook the tablet to the speakers. I don't really want to have to use a head unit, though that would be the easy way. There must be some kind of small device I can use that has a volume knob and maybe fade/balance controls that I can install anywhere in the truck.
Thanks for reading!
I have installed the archos 5IT in my dash and love it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kUsui3-5Y0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nN-8Hrf0sM
Its not capacitive but it does not suffer from the glare that the glass screens have. As far as touch sensitivity its pretty acurate for a resistive device.
I dont have the gps signal issues most have as i have the flash version and not the hard drive based ones as most say the hdd must be blocking the gps. I paid for the one time map fee from Ndrive but also tether to my phone and use google maps as well.
I have over 100 youtube music video's in mp4 format ripped to the device and use those as my music and have it set to random play and it goes from one file to the next without having to select a new video once one is over.
Thanks!
Some good input there. I'll have to keep that in mind. I just really think a 7" would look a lot better. Especially in my F150 XLT. Seems like the 5" would look dinky, and I have room for a 7".
If archos put the 5's guts into the 7 form factor, I'd buy 2 right now. Rly.
Also, for anyone who stumbled on this, I think it won't be too hard to set this up without using a head unit. (I could be wrong on some of the technical info, but I think I have the right idea here.) Your amplifier has a 'plug' with like 20 wires attached coming out. Normally, your radio has a plug that fits this plug. You plug it in, and now the radio's attached to the amp, which is attached to the speakers. Good to go. So you buy a new plug (called a wire harness), one that fits your amplifier (assuming stock amplifier, I will just look up 2000 F150 wire harness on amazon, and that's it), and wire up your tablet to it instead of your radio.
The wire harness puts out a 12v (ignition on) wire. You can adapt this to a USB and use that to charge the device. Set it to display/wifi/gps/all other battery draining crap off while not charging. When you turn the car on, it's now "Charging" and everything will turn off. I think it should be able to 'sleep' for a few days, so it should be 'always on' as far as you can tell.
The harness also has a wire for each of the 4 speakers, maybe subwoofers too, I forget now. I'm sure someone makes a product that controls these easily, I'm going to have to go to a local car audio shop, and ask some questions. Hopefully I can put the audio out from the tablet into the audio in of this unknown device. Then I should be able to wire the unknown device to the wiring harness. If I can't find something, I think I'll just make my own circuit, 3 Pots for volume, fade and balance, some resistors or something.. we'll see if I can't just buy something. The rest of the EQ can be done on the tablet.
(If I do make my own, I want to use a slide-style pot for volume instead of a rotating one. I think that'd be the nuts.)
Wiring harness: Ignition on wire adapted to USB. Speaker wires wired to volume/fade/bal device.
Tablet: plug in USB, and connect audio out to volume/fade/bal device.
Easy cheesy.
I'll be updating.
This thing is starting to look like it'll be really easy to do.
I can't get started 'til I find my tablet though. I would love to hear some more ideas! THANKS!
they updated the 7" home with newer hardware but it does not have gps. I would look into the upcoming wifi only samsung galaxy tab and see if it will have gps.
your on the right track with the audio wiring however you would better off getting a cheap 4ch amp to do it as you need power to pump the speakers the way you are talking about wiring it up would basically have the android device trying to power door speakers from the headphone output amp. If you got a cheap 4 ch amp and wired it through the stock vehicle harness you would have all the hookups u need just get the headphone to rca cable and a set of splitters to power all 4 channels of the amp volume could be controlled from the android device. If the amp had external volume remote or if you wired one inline with the headphone output you could have better volume control however the turning on and off of the amp might send a pop to the speakers as the amp would always be turned up.
Hmm
I was under the impression that my vehicle came with a stock amp. Everything's stock (as far as I know, got it used and haven't tinkered with it yet.)
Just trying to understand better, as I have never dealt with car stereos before.
So my stereo was supplying power to the speakers before? There's not an amp in my truck right now between the stereo and the speakers?
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I'm almost thinking of getting something really cheap, as I plan on permanently mounting it in the dash. Something Chinese maybe?
I'm sure the Galaxy Tab would work really well, but it's a bit expensive for a GPS/radio/computer.. now that I'm typing this out, that's a ****ing deal! Maybe I will get something nice to pop in there.
I found a tutorial online for making the 12v ignition into 2 USBs, so I am now considering a usb-powered bluetooth gps. Too bad it adds $50 to the cost.
Alright
Nope, no amp in the F-150 standard. It's in the head unit. So I will need to get an amp.
I figure I can move this whole system to my next car (Plan on getting a new truck in 3-4 years.. or sooner if this one decides to go on me), so the amp is an investment.
Truck has 4 speakers stock (no subwoofers)
I will hook those 4 speakers to the amp I buy. (I'll have to look up how to install an amp now.. geesh.)
I will put the audio out from my tablet into the amp.
Now I have to figure out how the 12v ignition on is gonna work, since I'm now going through a new amp. I found a tutorial on instructables titled "12v to USB adapter \ 12v to 5v transformer (great for cars)" I'm not allowed to post links yet, but I'm sure you can find it if you want it.
Yeah the amp any small 4ch or 2ch if you dont care about front rear fade will work..
As far as hooking up an amp they are pretty easy just need to run your own main power wire for the 12v constant for the amp. 8-10 gage should be fine for 400-600w 2 or 4 ch amp to power door speakers....
then use your red ignition wire from the harness u get to power the remote to the amp so its only on with the ignition. Extent the speaker wires to reach your amp you can mount under the passenger side dash or behind the center consol as trucks have plenty of room under there.
the wires from the harness you get to plug into your factory radio harness are easy to figure out as the colors have been standard for a while. Black is ground but you will need your own closest to the amp as possible any bare metal spot you can find that has a bolt to the frame or under dash should suffice. The black from the harness will power the usb fine. Yellow is constant + (always on) if you want the usb to always have power if not use the red as its only on with the ignition it will have enogh amps to power the remote for the amp and charge/power the tablet. green and purple are rear speakers, white/gray are front speakers. the remaining wire colors depend on the vehicle if they have them like blue is for power antenna or factory amp turn on. orange is to dim an after market head unit display when the head lights are on.
I was in best buy a few weeks ago and saw the archos 7 home tablet for $129 almost got one just because of the deal but dont need it as the 5it i have is fine and has the built in gps. but if using an external bluetooth gps is the route you go the 7 should be great. You will just need to find your own gps app or use google maps and have to terher to something like a smart phone for data.
http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_7/specs.html?country=us&lang=en
they show the gps icon on the home screen however it does not have built in gps. there are a ton of gps solutions you can side load or get from android market.
Damn...
Was just about to order the 7 home. Such a good deal.
No bluetooth...
The search continues.
i was searching ebay for something 7" that had gps or bluetooth and nothing cheap cought my eye so i took the 7" tag out and added 2.2 for froyo and gps...
I came up with this. http://goo.gl/hyNtC
All you would need to look like the soundman from youtube with his f150 ipad 2 install.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jr3_zLHTbY
May have found a contender.
a 10 inch would be nice, but I don't know how to do fiberglass, and for my first car mod, I'd prefer to keep it simple. a 7-inch should just fit in my double din.
Found this little gem.
http://www.dinodirect.com/tablet-pc...camera-android.html?ddse= gps&utm_source= gps
Gonna look at it more when I get home, will probably buy it. Only thing that's funky about it is that it charges with AC. We'll see...
A software to be written to tell it to go to sleep immediately when "ac" power is removed would be nice, also, that app to tell music/radio to resume on "wake" would be nice.
That way it plays the true car infotainment roll.
A device with USB host would almost be required before I dig into android platform for my infotainment system.
I have a custom built net-top based system built in my truck using a 7" touch screen, automatic power supply from mini-box.com, and a USB controller connected to my steering wheel control buttons. USB host is a must for me!
Sounds like a good setup. Honestly i'm fine with the stock radio in my truck, but I like to tinker.
Still haven't found the right device. I'm buying an Arnova 8 when they switch to the new model, and I'll give that a test fit.. see how it goes.
My plan is to set the device to have the display always on when plugged in. It's in settings or something. If it's wired to the ignition, should work right? We'll see.
I think if I get juice defender and set it to aggressive (no gps, no wifi, no bluetooth, no anything), it should stay on for a while in standby.
Well...
Seems like Android Tablets haven't matured enough for my project. I don't see a cheap 7" capacitive tablet with GPS coming out anytime soon. I'm going to go ahead and get a stereo with rear usb and aux ports, and make a mount for my phone. Should be fun. I'll make a new post with pictures and instructions, and link it here.
Oh well...
My 2 cents...
I've been looking to do the same thing. I've been digging around for a good table and this is the best I've got. Specs wise, it fits the bill. But I can't find any good reviews.
http://hotmid.com/wits-a81h-tablet-cortex-a8-7-capacitive-touchscreen-android-2-3-gps-wifi.html
Just in case that link doesn't work...
http://mp4nation.net/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=68&products_id=483
The big thing I'm looking for is a parts list. Amp, harnesses, etc. And a how-to would be the coolest as far as basic wiring for power and sound.
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concept after-market product
What appears to be lacking in the market currently is a ready-to-use 2DIN or double-din head unit that is basically a permanent in-dash universal docking system such that you can simply pop in a 5 or 7 inch tablet (or adaptable for say a minimum 4 inch or greater smartphone?) with the head unit's rear interface designed for plugging into the car's power, sound system, and steering wheel controls just like an aftermarket care stereo. Sorta like the currently available units that utilize removable electronic faceplates-- except here the tablet or smartphone itself is the "removable faceplate".
Spepper, I have seen one on Ebay. Looks a bit dodgy but might be good:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ES666MO-...153004?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item336b841f6c
ES666MO Car DVD/GPS/ANDROIT TABLET
http://ca-fi.com/en/ it's not a removable tablet, but it's an all-in-one Android-powered double-din radio, looks awesome, but it comes at a price because it has all the hardware built-in
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A software to be written to tell it to go to sleep immediately when "ac" power is removed would be nice, also, that app to tell music/radio to resume on "wake" would be nice.
That way it plays the true car infotainment roll.
A device with USB host would almost be required before I dig into android platform for my infotainment system.
I have a custom built net-top based system built in my truck using a 7" touch screen, automatic power supply from mini-box.com, and a USB controller connected to my steering wheel control buttons. USB host is a must for me!
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The wake-up is covered using plug in launcher from the market.
I am checking if it can be used for the sleep portion.
Is AVRCP (controlling the infuse with the car's audio controls) supported on the Infuse? So far, using BT, I have to use the phone itself to select songs, skip, etc.
I had an iPhone before this, and it at least allowed me to skip, if nothing else. I thought Android would do better than that.
**on another note, if I plug the Infuse to the USB port on the car, it prompts for USB storage mode, and the car doesn't seem to be able to handle that. (2011 Hyundai Sonata)
I have a fairly new Pioneer head unit and it only allows control over Bluetooth with the phone itself. Honestly, I have yet to plug it in via Usb; but I suspect the same thing. I also have an iPhone 4 that when plugged in can be controlled from the unit as well as the phone via Usb, but that is really because iPod functionality was built in since iPod has been around much longer than iPhones or Android. I also was one of those people who thought remotes for car stereos that were 1-2 feet away was idiotic, but now use mine like crazy, so I just think of the phone as my new remote.
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I have a fairly new Pioneer head unit and it only allows control over Bluetooth with the phone itself. Honestly, I have yet to plug it in via Usb; but I suspect the same thing. I also have an iPhone 4 that when plugged in can be controlled from the unit as well as the phone via Usb, but that is really because iPod functionality was built in since iPod has been around much longer than iPhones or Android. I also was one of those people who thought remotes for car stereos that were 1-2 feet away was idiotic, but now use mine like crazy, so I just think of the phone as my new remote.
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dont count on this with android for a while unless it is the reciever playing the songs. there is audio out throug usb or you can mount the sdcard as storage. unfortunately not all headunits will see storage on an android phone. i dont know if there is a universal standard for player controls, i think there is such a thing for phone calls but for audio players you will likely need to wait for proprietary software and accessory support. this is basically where the iphone/ipods rule. androidis too fractured and unless google comes up with some standards to follow and the radio manufacturers catch on it might not happen at all
This little adapter is really well-reviewed on Amazon. Satisfied users mention Droid, EVO 4G, Incredible, Nexus One, etc. but no Charge.
Seems reasonable to expect it to work given such widespread Android compatibility but does anyone have firsthand experience?
I have had that one for a while now. It worked great on my D1 and now I use it on my Charge. Streams music and it sounds great. It has a volume control on it also. You can charge your phone at the same time. One of the best buys I have made.
Thanks, mon. I'm off to order now.
Just so I understand, you use the headphone jack for audio, USB to charge.
Rather than playing through the USB alone?
If I had an easy way to connect in my car, I'd go ahead and sub to spotify. This could be it.
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Actually I only use the bluetooth connection for sound. That way I can stream music and if I get a call I can hear it over the car speakers. I use the USB to keep the phone charged. I have never used the audio cable. Have you received it yet and if so how do you like it?
I'm thinking of picking this up, I'd probably wanna use a cig splitter since I don't particularly care that the usb port on this is only 650mah. Is it strong enough to run music and nav and keep the phone charged? or recommend a cig splitter so we can use the official cig charger from verizon?
I can't answer that question yet. I should get my car dock today and I haven't used it for nav yet. I have used it to stream music and voice.
Received mine yesterday but haven't had a chance to mess with it. I'm really hoping it charges effectively, I'm getting ready to search and/or post here about how HUGELY I'm disappointed in the Charge's battery life.
let us know hehe, thinking of either this or getting a new head unit for my car with bluetooth built in. Right now I use the aux jack on my radio, but I want to get rid up as much excess cabling as possible. Any fan of cable tidyness would agree hehe.
lol I am a total nutcase....was going to get this accessory but figured...why not just upgrade my head unit to one with bluetooth......and while at it picked up new speakers to replace the stock ones......ARGH, coulda just spent the ~$50 and been done with it instead of the $478 for the new HU, speakers, and install (which is tomorrow ^.^)
Don't follow in my tracks, save your money and get this LOL
Now that is one approach to a problem I am not sure I would have even thought of, lol.
Let's see... spend $50 or 10 times that??????
I can see your dilemma.
ya but spending 10 times as much nets me a much nicer audio systems with integrated awesomeness.....hehe I get it installed in an hour I'll report back.
Anyways to keep this post on target...we need more testers for that fm transmitter! Get on it folk!
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ya but spending 10 times as much nets me a much nicer audio systems with integrated awesomeness.....hehe I get it installed in an hour I'll report back.
Anyways to keep this post on target...we need more testers for that fm transmitter! Get on it folk!
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where are you getting it installed? im thinking of getting a headunit too but i dont know how to install it and im really bad with cars.
ya, get the professionals on that one...even if it is best buy...at least if they **** up its on them. After using my new stereo for 2 days, I have to say this....nothing beats the aux input cord.....bluetooth streaming is too poor, wicked hissy. still nice to have the bluetooth only for phone calls though.
Funny, I have never had the hissy sound over bluetooth. My streaming with the GOgroove Flexsmart X2 has always sounded as good as the radio and I have the Bose system in my Trailblazer.
thats weird. it may be the bluetooth adapter I have *shrugs* it sounds beauuuutiful through the line out on the car dock into the aux in on my HU, but if I only use it for calls oh well, it works hehehe
I'll chime in to say that bluetooth streaming in a rental Ford was superb. No static or hissing, full Spotify goodness.
I'd take my unit it back, if I were you. Shouldn't be problematic.
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ive been using this one from walmart
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Scosche-FM-Transmitter/16652629
its inexpensive and works really well. I bought a few others from bestbuy and they always sucked and had poor sound quality for double the price, i saw this at walmart one day and said "what the hell" and picked it up, i was very surprised at how well it worked. It has a small profile, and even plays mp3s off an SD card if you want, though I have never used that feature. It has a remote as well.
I just bought a 2nd one for my wife, and ive been using mine for about a year now, its rock solid.
highly recommended. Also... its walmart, if it ever breaks just bring it back
It looks like that one from WalMart is a FM Transmitter only. The one we are talking about in this thread is not only a FM Transmitter but also a Bluetooth connector to our Phones so we can hold a conversation and hear it over the vehicles radio system. So it looks to me that it does everything the WalMart one does, except for the memory card slot, and much more.
Wondering if any of you fine folk could recommend a Bluetooth aux receiver for use in an automobile. I've been on Amazon briefly looking at a few but I haven't found any serious standouts.
I bought this one and am very happy with it especially since it doesn't require a ground loop isolator to stop the background buzz I used to hear with other solutions.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RSZWK1W/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_GLyOwbZFXV18R
I've used this one with past phones and it worked well:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RH29CJO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
I only tested it a little bit with the V10 because it seemed like such a waste to have a phone with a HiFi DAC and just bypass it completely, so I've switch back to AUX
Thanks for the suggestions, each one looks exactly like what I need.