Hey brothas I'm kind of still learning about the capabilities of our smartphones as far as performance goes but I am really curious as to why whenever your downloading an app or anything
The phone runs so crappy and becomes very unresponsive and slow...I've never seen this happen on my mytouch 4g or even my g1...but whatever its downloading, it downloads it super fast but I just don't understand this phone has a dual core processor you would think it would be able to download anything and still run smooth...I dunno guys I am just curious if anyone knows why or even has a fix...its like this for me on all roms and kernels..my thought is when your downloading something the CPU focuses all its power on that download therefore everything else is slow..but I dunno like I said I am kind of a noob and always looking to learn...appreciate some input..thanks brothas
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I was actually wondering about this myself. I get that slowdown too, and especially as it's installing the app or whatever it is I've downloaded.
Doesn't bother me TOO much, I just kind of chill out, while it installs... But a curiosity none-the-less.
Haven't noticed any slowdown while dl'ing. Just dl'ed a 3meg kernel in like 5 seconds.
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Haven't noticed any slowdown while dl'ing. Just dl'ed a 3meg kernel in like 5 seconds.
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He's saying the phone becomes unresponsive and slow. The downloads are incredibly fast...
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antfitts said:
Hey brothas I'm kind of still learning about the capabilities of our smartphones as far as performance goes but I am really curious as to why whenever your downloading an app or anything
The phone runs so crappy and becomes very unresponsive and slow...I've never seen this happen on my mytouch 4g or even my g1...but whatever its downloading, it downloads it super fast but I just don't understand this phone has a dual core processor you would think it would be able to download anything and still run smooth...I dunno guys I am just curious if anyone knows why or even has a fix...its like this for me on all roms and kernels..my thought is when your downloading something the CPU focuses all its power on that download therefore everything else is slow..but I dunno like I said I am kind of a noob and always looking to learn...appreciate some input..thanks brothas
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I can confirm this. I think the main issue is, is that we are using software that was never intended for a dual core processor so the end result is random reboots, lag when downloading apps, etc. Even the Sensation which has a dual core processor has its share of software glitches/issues. Let's hope that when Ice Cream Sandwich (Google's next update with dual core processor support) comes out that we'll either automatically get the update from LG/T-Mobile or LG/Nvidia will release the necessary drivers and/or files to the XDA community.
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I can confirm this. I think the main issue is, is that we are using software that was never intended for a dual core processor so the end result is random reboots, lag when downloading apps, etc. Even the Sensation which has a dual core processor has its share of software glitches/issues. Let's hope that when Ice Cream Sandwich (Google's next update with dual core processor support) comes out that we'll either automatically get the update from LG/T-Mobile or LG/Nvidia will release the necessary drivers and/or files to the XDA community.
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yea good luck with that lol, and my phone is fine when i download nightlys over my browser, cuz usually ill be on xda thru the stock browser and still be browsing while its downloading in the background, on wifi, and thats a big file, also fine when i just use the network to dl normal apps
No problem here. Stock rom runs great while downloading. No lag.
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yea good luck with that lol, and my phone is fine when i download nightlys over my browser, cuz usually ill be on xda thru the stock browser and still be browsing while its downloading in the background, on wifi, and thats a big file, also fine when i just use the network to dl normal apps
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Sorry for the misunderstanding the phone is fine when downloading, but whenever its doing an install for whatever reason it gets unresponsive or extremely laggy for a short second. Try downloading something from the market and then when it starts to install browse the web and see what it does. This is definitely not a major or a minor issue for me since it does this for only a quick second.
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Ok, so if you go to market and then go to myapps...and there's like 12 things that need to be updated...and you start clicking one by one, update, ok, update, ok, etc...you never feel any hiccup of lag when it's at the install phase of any of those?
I feel this all of the time. Especially when I use CM's market apps installer that defaults after installing a new nightly...when I have almost all of them checkmarked, then it takes me to the market page for each one of them individually. And it has nothing at all to do with internet connection or speed, because it's the same whether I'm using my 6MBps 4g, or my 36MBps wifi at home. Sometimes, the hiccup will even make me click the wrong button by accident.
my pc,6 core amd, 6 gigs ram, sometimes becomes sluggish while installing graphic card drivers etc. i wouldn't put too much thought into it. it usually takes about 5 seconds to install an app.
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my pc,6 core amd, 6 gigs ram, sometimes becomes sluggish while installing graphic card drivers etc. i wouldn't put too much thought into it. it usually takes about 5 seconds to install an app.
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Yeah, I agree this isn't much of a big deal at least to me. I can live with it. I was just agreeing with the OP since I also noticed the short bit of lag.
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Its not the download that causes the phone to be slow. When you're installing an app, the processor is being used and it will slow down the phone, especially when you're updating/installing multiple apps. My g1, droid, captivate, and g2x have done this. My ipod touch did it too.
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I find that this only happens when installing an app from the google market. When installing apk's from any other source it seems to be fine.
Also as a note, after updating to the new google app i have noticed that it doesnt slow down anymore. It might be me, but i think its just the old market app.
I got this slow down on every Android phone I've owned except my Sensation. Maybe Gingerbread fixed it?
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Thanks for the input guys I kind of agree with the person who said it slows down because the software isn't optimized for dual cores yet..seems to make sense as with all the other issues caused by this crappy software and drivers LG gave us because like I said I never had this problem with mytouch 4g nor my g1..but thanks for the input brothas..godless u guys
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Thanks for the input guys I kind of agree with the person who said it slows down because the software isn't optimized for dual cores yet..seems to make sense as with all the other issues caused by this crappy software and drivers LG gave us because like I said I never had this problem with mytouch 4g nor my g1..but thanks for the input brothas..godless u guys
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Your welcome and check out the link below. Even Qualcomm, the company who has designed processor chips for phones such as the myTouch 4g, HTC Sensation, Evo 3d etc. also agrees with my statement about the software not being supported for dual core processors. That's why some of you may have noticed that your previous 1ghz single core phone was either just as fast as these dual core phones or even faster in day to day use. For instance my myTouch 4g (when rooted with Faux Aosp build clocked at stock 1ghz) and Stock Nexus felt just as fast as the G2x when opening and closing apps and even scrolling through the browser (the myTouch 4g scrolled through the browser just as smooth as the G2x, but the Nexus S did not).
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/not-even-qualcomm-thinks-dual-core-is-working-out-yet-20110715/
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I've never tried to do anything else while installing multiple apps. I usually put the phone down and let it do its thing.
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My Captivated is rooted and Im having a lot of performance issues. I unloaded some apps and its still having problems. The biggest issues is delayed response. This happen from messaging, to suing the touchscscrreen./----Im going to leave this typo because it happens of the screen freezing--/ . This happens way to frequently. Please tell me I can fix this myself, I don't want to send this off for a new one. I hate that process.
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Backup your apps with TITANIUM BACKUP and flash back to stock. Then I would install the sre.
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My Captivated is rooted and Im having a lot of performance issues. I unloaded some apps and its still having problems. The biggest issues is delayed response. This happen from messaging, to suing the touchscscrreen./----Im going to leave this typo because it happens of the screen freezing--/ . This happens way to frequently. Please tell me I can fix this myself, I don't want to send this off for a new one. I hate that process.
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you can follow all the steps to root your phone and reset and blablabla...
or you can wait for the software fix, which nobody knows when to come or nobody can guarantee to work.
or you can wait for 2.2, which is supposed to be faster but you never know.
or you can exchange for another phone and probably have the same problem.
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you can follow all the steps to root your phone and reset and blablabla...
or you can wait for the software fix, which nobody knows when to come or nobody can guarantee to work.
or you can wait for 2.2, which is supposed to be faster but you never know.
or you can exchange for another phone and probably have the same problem.
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I wouldn't mind playing the waiting game if just a couple of bugs. But what's a smart phone if it doesn't can't handled being used. I figured it was something I did cause the phone didn't always freeze like this. Is this the lag people are talking about?
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Do a reset. However don't use Titanium Backup to restore system data. It will funk stuff up a lot of the time.
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I had the same issues, first get rid off any task killer app you have. Second download the One Click Lag Fix app. These steps increased my phones speed drastically. You can also use a program called Autostarts to control which apps load at boot. To do the last to tips, I believe your phone had to be rooted.
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I had the same issues, first get rid off any task killer app you have. Second download the One Click Lag Fix app. These steps increased my phones speed drastically. You can also use a program called Autostarts to control which apps load at boot. To do the last to tips, I believe your phone had to be rooted.
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Thanks I will post after trying this out.
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I had the same issues, first get rid off any task killer app you have. Second download the One Click Lag Fix app. These steps increased my phones speed drastically. You can also use a program called Autostarts to control which apps load at boot. To do the last to tips, I believe your phone had to be rooted.
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What he says is good. Also get AutoKiller. Set it to preset Extreme. Enjoy a fast phone.
Oh. Disable the upload settings features.
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My first impressions are saying that this definitly worked. Thanks! !!
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What did you backup your apps with... Titanium Backup?
Did you install Auto Killer?
Back before this nice app we had to use a script at boot to change the settings this app now does. Y'all got in on Android when it was getting easy to do everything. I had to root by cmd prompt and use a list of commands now we have one click rooters. I am kinda jealous.
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BTW what are the lag issues everyone talks about? My best friend has the Captivate which is why I am on the forums. I am trying to stay up to date with his phone. I have the Evo.
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I use astro. Then use app brain to keep them up to date.
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You definitely don't need an app killer. Eclair is set up to kill apps when memory is needed. I find things to be buggy when I use an app killer. Use launcher pro. Much smoother than touch whiz. Root with SRE. When all the att crap is gone the phone functions like it should have out of the box even if you disable the OC. Lagfix is optional but doing all these things really makes the phone fly
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After setting up SDK Manager and installing motorola 4.9.0 drivers, in device manager, I see that Mot composite adb interface has a warning. I checked the properties and it says it failed to initialize (code 37). Anyone ever come across this? I've uninstalled and reinstalled several times to no avail. Just hoping to root and need a little hand.
Dude, all the Cliq xt info on rooting can be found over at modmymobile.com forums, plus a good custom recovery, and quite a few Roms.... more rom's on simplyandroid forums also....
I practically lived there til I got rid of my Cliq xt
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I was there, couldn't quite find help for this, that and ive been a, long time reader here.
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After setting up SDK Manager and installing motorola 4.9.0 drivers, in device manager, I see that Mot composite adb interface has a warning. I checked the properties and it says it failed to initialize (code 37). Anyone ever come across this? I've uninstalled and reinstalled several times to no avail. Just hoping to root and need a little hand.
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Sounds like a driver issue. if you install the wrong driver for something thats the same error code you will get. not sure if thats the case but i thought id throw in my 2 cents haha
Thanks to both of you, I apologize for lack of forum etiquette. I'm sure i've got the right drivers though
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Iir I had to install the Motorola flashing program, the name of which eludes me at the moment .... to get the phones drivers set IP properly for it to be visible from adb ... if your on windows 7 one or the other of those apps have issues working right without launching it as administrator by holding shift, and right clicking and saying run as administrator then.answering yes to the dialog that pops up
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thank you, on vista. Ill look into that.
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Does SmartMoto by smart-clip sound right?
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Rsd lite is the proggy I had to install to get my Cliq xt drivers situated finally.... if your on 64 bit windows it is a little different also... cause u need the 64 bit drivers
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Rsd lite is the official moto tool.... be careful with it, you can brick your phone EASY with it... make sure you read Skirilax_CZ posts on momymoto forums thoroughly as well as the full details on the custom recovery ..... knowledge from reading the forums is free...bricking your phone beyond fix and having to buy another cause your warranty is voided isnt
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Cheers man. Thanks for the back & forth too. Ill check it, out after work.
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No problemo..... that was a great little phone....I was so disappointed when moto decided not to officially support it after 1.5 after saying the would get it to 2.1 for months...
I left T-Mobile over it, burned almost 400 bucks buying it o. Release day, and got no satisfaction on seeking an upgrade or replacement for less than the same.... sad little company...was with them almost 7 full years and they could do nothing useful for a "valued" customer....
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Thats vile dude. Im On rogers and I guess if im thoroughly unhappy with the phone and say its problematic there is a refurb program for 50 bucks. Sounds Decent and I may go down that venue. Ive been wanting to root for awhile because as a canadian rogers said no to the 2.1. Ive accepted it and am going about the "other options". Mostly for multitouch. I know its a little faux pas to compare roms, but do you have any good suggestions for a rom. Im thinking either barely blurred or adlxmod 2.1.54 consolidation as they appear to be the two that everything works for the most part.
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Most all of those roms work well...the only hiccup is the speaker toggle issue.....different ones are worse about it than others...
Basically when you get a call...you might have to switch the speakerphone off and on for the other party to hear you....iir same holds true if you make a call....
FWIW, before I passed it to my brother, I was using the latest official Motorola motoblur release, still based on 1.5, but I had manually gone thru and stripped out a lot of the bloat....mostly stuff I'd never use, including the Amazon mp3 store that ALWAYS runs in the background eating mass resources. I'm actually kinda fond of the happenings widget, and how motoblur integrates all the contacts so well across social networks....the downside is if u move off of a motoblur device, you loose all your motoblur contacts...so if you haven't been keeping your Gmail contacts updated, well.you'll spend a few hours like I did keying them over manually.
Happenings is cool, cause it shows every status posted by every friend on Facebook, so you don't miss anything, and always know where you left off last time you were there.
I enjoyed being that connected, YMMV...
I think overall, the fastest fully functional rom I ran was the vanilla one based on 1.5.... basically makes the device function exactly like a stock mt3g or g1....just with more ram and app storage.
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Nice. Thanks. I got the adb interface working last night. Installed on a different pc. Ill let you know how it goes.
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Cool!
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Got it!
Rooted and Flashed a 2.1 rom with motoblur features still in it. ADLXmod 2.1.54-2 Consolidation was the name I think. It's sweet. Thanks again for the back and forth and help. I agree the XT is a deadly little beast, underrated and now unleashed.
Yeah, very solidly built, 256mb ram....why it never took off is beyond me.
Gratz on the new Tom. That sounds awesome.
How're the issues with making voice calls. Does it work right now?
Might need to try that rom on the one I gave my brother.
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voice calls are no problem, there was a speakerfix by a dude named @firesnatch included in the rom itself. you can hear it automatically turn the speaker on then back off. I often use the 3.5mm jack into my car stereo so voice calls on that have been 100% normal/flawless. I highly suggest it as it's got some sweet stuff built in like wi-fi tether, titanium backup, and clockwork's Rom Manager. Loving the launcherPro as well, because adlxmod also uses the motoblur HOME ui (dialer on left/apps in middle/contacts on right) but with the launcherpro UI I've got 5 shortcuts instead of those three, and at that - those shortcuts are customizable.
Sweet! Ill have to set that up for my bro. How well does Tom Manager play with jr0dd's recovery
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I recently installed system tuner pro, and it appears that my second code is not automatically running.
Is this true?
Do we need to activate the second core in order for it to work?
Sorry if this is a stupid question...
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I recently installed system tuner pro, and it appears that my second code is not automatically running.
Is this true?
Do we need to activate the second core in order for it to work?
Sorry if this is a stupid question...
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Thats weird. I just downloaded the free version on the market and Im gettin the same thing. Its not recognizing the 2nd core at all. I went to phone info in system tuner's settings and its not showing either. It must be some glitch in the latest version of the app because I used to have that app about 1-2 months ago and it showed 2 running cores. But when I go to CPU Master Pro and my phones main settings about phone info it shows 2 cores. After I rebooted, of course. Before I rebooted though in CPU Master Pro it only showed 1 core, so for sure the apps messed up.
This should help http://www.tested.com/news/dual-core-vs-single-core-arm-what-does-an-extra-core-really-get-you/2337/
What ROM you running? Did you reboot your phone? Did you reinstall the app after you rebooted your phone? And why do you use/need System Tuner? Personally I didnt like the UI and I didnt really see the need for it. Not at all hating, just my 2 cents.
Actually...I had used system tuner on my wife's sensation when ics first leaked, the forums for her phone advised to use it to force the 2nd core online. So, early today I was bored and just thought I would install it on my g2x just to see if my second core was running, and it said it wasn't.
I am on cm7 latest Lang from baldguy or whatever.....when I enables the second core, I didn't notice any difference, so I uninstalled the app. Then posted here...lol
Thanks for the info
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Ya until ICS or CM9 with the hardware acceleration, which actually utilizes both cores like it should, only when playing 3D games the dual cores makes a difference. And that's mostly using the GPU anyway.
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Just wondering, since iOS is a much more closed echosystem. Do they get forcecloses (or whatever they call them) with their apps.
Recently I've gotten a few forceclose when trying to use the Navigate app. It annoyed me, since this is a google product running on a google phone. Just had me wondering if iPhone has same issues?
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Just wondering, since iOS is a much more closed echosystem. Do they get forcecloses (or whatever they call them) with their apps.
Recently I've gotten a few forceclose when trying to use the Navigate app. It annoyed me, since this is a google product running on a google phone. Just had me wondering if iPhone has same issues?
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Really? I think your Navigate app sent you to the wrong forum?
I used to have an iPhone. I had about the same number of force closes on it as I have my skyrocket which is to say very few.
My android tablet however gets a ton of force closes. I suppose it depends on which android device.
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Really? I think your Navigate app sent you to the wrong forum?
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bhahahaha... Okay nicely done.
I didn't know where else to post this.
IPhone apps just close. You do not get an error message.
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Ask em in the apple forums.....sorry I couldn't resist.:thumbup:
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Obviously being on a ICS leak the past month one would expect more FC but I will say my iPhone did have less issues with apps crashing on a whole. But some apps would have issues. I would say apple tends to have issues more with individual apps than general issues like I get with Droid. One is really not better than the other in this case. As usual, its more of the app programmers than the OS that will cause these issues.
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I had a iphone 4 that I got pissed off at and force closed it in a door.
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I had a iphone 4 that I got pissed off at and force closed it in a door.
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I wish I could +1000 that... but I can't. So here's a thanks.
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The apps crash every now and then, but I attributed it to jailbreak tweaks. I can't remember it ever really crashing when it was stock. Maybe once or twice.
A good deal of force closes are caused by the user. No properly knowing how to use the device. And there are ways to fix force closes. Unless its an actuall problem with an app. Just invloves some reading
I had a friend whose first gen iphone froze up completely and he had to wait for the battery to die before he could use it again.
I'm on stock Rogers ROM (I'm not even rooted). And I've gotten forcecloses for trying to go to the home screen (home.android), navigate app, the dialer once or twice force closed, the SMS app. These are suppose to be the stable core apps, I was just surprised that they forceclosed.
I was just curious if iOS had the same problems for their core apps?
iOS apps don't throw an error on the screen when they have a problem, they simply close. Apple likes a polite crash instead of supplying a useful message stating the app you have might be a pile of crap.
You would be shocked at how many iPhone users don't realize just how often their apps die.
I hear a lot of them brush it off as them accidentally hitting the home button or something similar. That's when I give my signature response... "It crashed you moron."
My wife has an iPhone 4 and she was shocked when I pointed out that her apps had in fact crashed.
Sheep will be sheep I guess.
On Android developers also have to make their apps work on several operating systems and hundreds of phones. Apple has to make work on one phone...
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On Android developers also have to make their apps work on several operating systems and hundreds of phones. Apple has to make work on one phone...
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More like 4 phones (3G, 3GS, 4 and 4S), two different screen resolutions and 3 major versions of iOS.
Some people still use a 3G and a lot of people still have a 3GS, myself included.
Apps are not 100% compatible between them and the 3G only supports iOS 3.1.3 and below.
The 3GS runs 5.1, but it's slow as mud.
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On Android developers also have to make their apps work on several operating systems and hundreds of phones. Apple has to make work on one phone...
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This is not my first Android phone, but I'm just surprised that some of the core apps (mentioned in my previous post, dialer, home screen, stock SMS) forceclosed.
I knew foreclosing was a huge issue but didn't know it was hitting phones!!!!
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More like 4 phones (3G, 3GS, 4 and 4S), two different screen resolutions and 3 major versions of iOS.
Some people still use a 3G and a lot of people still have a 3GS, myself included.
Apps are not 100% compatible between them and the 3G only supports iOS 3.1.3 and below.
The 3GS runs 5.1, but it's slow as mud.
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One phone or four phones. I was being sarcastic saying one. They are still closed source crap operating systems. My point is that its harder to make an app on android than apple, because of the variations of Android devices.
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I'm wondering if rebooting the phone once in a while is good because it clears some memory etc.?
Though I must say I don't do much on my phone besides calling, texting and listening to music...
I have Froyo on my phone.
There's no point rebooting once a while!!..If you're worried about memory just clear the RAM once a while if u get slow!!.
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I'm wondering if rebooting the phone once in a while is good because it clears some memory etc.?
Though I must say I don't do much on my phone besides calling, texting and listening to music...
I have Froyo on my phone.
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It really doesn't make a difference unless there is something wrong on your phones apps normally a reboot should fix that.
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rebooting
funny this is asked because certain devices behave differently when rebooting. with idevices I found that rebooting does fix glitches more than say an android device, because mainly there arent many free mem apps for a jailbroken iDevice, whereas android natively lets you free mem within it's OS. Ive always felt its like flushing a toilet and cant hurt! lol!
You don't have to unless there's a Problem.
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