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[Q] Root without S-Off

Hello all,
Is there a way to root my device without having to first S-Off it?
Specs and info are on my signature.
Thank you all in advance ...

No, you must s-off first

Permanent root (Perm-ROOT) can only be attained when S-Offed..
While S-On can only have Temporary root (Temp-ROOT) using fre3vo or GingerBreak.. But that wouldn't take you anywhere you wanted unlike S-OFFed..

adazamim said:
Hello all,
Is there a way to root my device without having to first S-Off it?
Specs and info are on my signature.
Thank you all in advance ...
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There is no reason why you'd need root without S-off anyway?

[Q] Unlocking Bootloader

hi guys my sensation is s-off rooted and cwm recovery and now i wanna unlock the bootloader iv tryed htcdev bootloader unlocking with no joy any ideas thanks in advance

DanOMac said:
hi guys my sensation is s-off rooted and cwm recovery and now i wanna unlock the bootloader iv tryed htcdev bootloader unlocking with no joy any ideas thanks in advance
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Well since u went the revolutionary way ur all set to go as you got the best thing u can get, s-off. Plus I wouldn't even try goin the HTC route since I'm pretty sure it voids ur warranty(since they'll keep track of who uses it). And with the the revolutionary way, you can revert back to s-on if needed to send for warranty repair or sum
So go out and start flashing! (Well, roms ofcourse)
Sent by my feau gee

Thanks 4the info I only wanted it unlocked so I can change the splash image I will just have 2put up with the standard 1
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

You can change it anyway if you're S-OFF - you don't need to unlock the bootloader

Any ideas how cos iv tried a few ways now with no luck
Catch up apple!!! Android is leaving you behind

after revelutionary S-OFF my sensation,,, i have flashed this file ftom this link int the first post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122053&highlight=eng+S-off
but be sure to read everything,,,,

piimp said:
Well since u went the revolutionary way ur all set to go as you got the best thing u can get, s-off. Plus I wouldn't even try goin the HTC route since I'm pretty sure it voids ur warranty(since they'll keep track of who uses it). And with the the revolutionary way, you can revert back to s-on if needed to send for warranty repair or sum
So go out and start flashing! (Well, roms ofcourse)
Sent by my feau gee
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It only voids your warranty if that (unlocked bootloader) was what caused your phone to malfunction. All other warranties on the phone stay the same.

DanOMac said:
hi guys my sensation is s-off rooted and cwm recovery and now i wanna unlock the bootloader
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It's already S-OFF, which means the bootloader is unlocked. It's simply called two things - S-OFF and unlocking the bootloader are the same process/thing.

Cheers guys but I still can't change the dam splash screen
Catch up apple!!! Android is leaving you behind

Finally all sorted i went from s-off RL to ENG s-off RL which has sorted my problem
Thanks to all that helped !!!

[Q] installing stock RUU

Hello forum, this is my first post. I'm no pro and this is my 2nd android. my uncle brought it from UK to Bangladesh. may be it was in contract with Vodafone because I see a Vodafone splash screen and some Vodafone apps in application manager. I don't like them as because I'm not using Vodafone here. now can anyone please give some links where I can find way to install fresh OS without Vodafone (may be you call it unbranded RUU). I prefer Indian RUU to get local font support. I'll be very glad if someone answers. my "Volume down+Power button"
menu shows following:
*** LOCKED ***
SAGA PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.00.0002
RADIO-3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
Aug 22 2011, 15:22:13
*I'm not worried about warranty because i'm not getting it anyway,just want that my DS doesn't get bricked.

S.Nahid said:
Hello forum, this is my first post. I'm no pro and this is my 2nd android. my uncle brought it from UK to Bangladesh. may be it was in contract with Vodafone because I see a Vodafone splash screen and some Vodafone apps in application manager. I don't like them as because I'm not using Vodafone here. now can anyone please give some links where I can find way to install fresh OS without Vodafone (may be you call it unbranded RUU). I prefer Indian RUU to get local font support. I'll be very glad if someone answers. my "Volume down+Power button"
menu shows following:
*** LOCKED ***
SAGA PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.00.0002
RADIO-3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
Aug 22 2011, 15:22:13
*I'm not worried about warranty because i'm not getting it anyway,just want that my DS doesn't get bricked.
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If you're not worried about warranty, I would strongly recommend a custom ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146601
Use this to help you, it contains many guides and ask any questions if you need to.
However, if you do want to flash a RUU, here are a list of RUU's. I can see one for HTC India there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
Also I believe you would need to create a goldcard to flash an unbranded RUU for HTC India. Here is a good guide from Paul O Brien
http://android.modaco.com/topic/305672-creating-a-goldcard/

dan-fish said:
If you're not worried about warranty, I would strongly recommend a custom ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146601
Use this to help you, it contains many guides and ask any questions if you need to.
However, if you do want to flash a RUU, here are a list of RUU's. I can see one for HTC India there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
Also I believe you would need to create a goldcard to flash an unbranded RUU for HTC India. Here is a good guide from Paul O Brien
http://android.modaco.com/topic/305672-creating-a-goldcard/
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thank you.
about the 1st link:I'll install custom Rom after a few days because I'm still enjoying the shiny sense 3.0.
about the 2nd link:I've seen that sticky post but couldn't download Asia_India so I downloaded Asia_WWE. but the thing is what is the process. do I have to revolutionary s-off or root my phone? and most importantly will I get the official OTA updates after flashing the stock Rom? I'm more interested about flashing stock Rom. so if you please give the procedure.
about the 3rd link:I'll creat a goldcard ASAP.

With the goldcard use mmc2 not mmc1 as the guide suggested. I.e. change the 1 to a 2 in the adb command.
If you want to get ota's you have to be stock, if you attempted down the line to install an ota on a rooted/altered phone its your own stupidity to blame, and many have done it.
Good stuff on making the goldcard, can't stress it enough how important it can be especially for novices.

S.Nahid said:
about the 2nd link:I've seen that sticky post but couldn't download Asia_India so I downloaded Asia_WWE. but the thing is what is the process. do I have to revolutionary s-off or root my phone? and most importantly will I get the official OTA updates after flashing the stock Rom? I'm more interested about flashing stock Rom. so if you please give the procedure.
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You don't need S-OFF or root to flash a RUU. However, it doesn't matter if you do either.
The RUU is an .exe file so run it on your computer and it becomes pretty self explanatory. Also thanks to fox2delta for clarifying that.

foX2delta said:
If you want to get ota's you have to be stock, if you attempted down the line to install an ota on a rooted/altered phone its your own stupidity to blame, and many have done it.
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as per dan-fish's post I don't need rooting for installing stock ROM. will i get the OTAs if I do it without rooting? I know I'm being too much conservative,but as I'm out of warranty so I want to be sure before taking the step.

dan-fish said:
You don't need S-OFF or root to flash a RUU. However, it doesn't matter if you do either.
The RUU is an .exe file so run it on your computer and it becomes pretty self explanatory. Also thanks to fox2delta for clarifying that.
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thanks for confirming that I don't need s-off and rooting.my boot menu shows ***LOCKED***. do I need to make it UNLOCKED? if yes then which method? I've seen some alternative way other than HTCDev. as I'm not in warranty,will you suggest to do it from HTCDev?
and btw,same question to you too,if I install stock ROM without rooting then will I get OTA?

S.Nahid said:
thanks for confirming that I don't need s-off and rooting.my boot menu shows ***LOCKED***. do I need to make it UNLOCKED? if yes then which method? I've seen some alternative way other than HTCDev. as I'm not in warranty,will you suggest to do it from HTCDev?
and btw,same question to you too,if I install stock ROM without rooting then will I get OTA?
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If you're using the RUU then you should get OTA's and you'll want to keep your bootloader locked.
You can also go down the custom ROM road but i'm not sure about functionality with indian font.

[Q] One S Dev Phone with root issues

So I bought a One S from craigslist about 2 weeks ago. The guy said it was a dev phone. At the top on the case is a tag of numbers and letters printed on the phone. When I first boot the phone it has a HTC splash screen along with the text
"This build is for development purposes only. Do not distribute outside of HTC without HTC's permission. Failure to comply may lead to legal action."
Booting into the bootloader I get this:
*** LOCKED ***
VLE XC SHIP S-OFF RH
CID-11111111
HBOOT-0.90.0000
RADIO-0.14.31.22_2
OpenDSP-v10.1.0.31.0221
eMMC-boot
Feb 21 2012,14:27:31
HBOOT
<VOL UP> to previous item
<VOL DOWN> to next item
<POWER> to select item
FASTBOOT
RECOVERY
FACTORY RESET
CLEAR STORAGE
SIMLOCK
IMAGE CRC
SHOW BARCODE
Also it came with CWM 5.8.1.5 already installed. I tried to use Hasoon's tool to install a more recent CWM but it wouldn't work.
I tried to unlock the bootloader using the htcdev site and token and that didn't work.
I was able to flash it with the UTB ROM using the existing CWM and it works but I cannot gain root access even though supersu is installed and I add apps to its list.
Any ideas on how to get root access?

Looking at your HBOOT version it seems like the device is on early software. You're already S-OFF, so you can try flashing the official TMO release ROM and follow the guides on XDA to root.

hammondnav said:
Looking at your HBOOT version it seems like the device is on early software. You're already S-OFF, so you can try flashing the official TMO release ROM and follow the guides on XDA to root.
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I don't see the official release. There is a thread here that says T-Mobile USA Complete Rom but there's no link to the actual ROM.

I thought reselling of these phones can land u into trouble ?
I mean the development phones

what about busybox? there's an app to install that if you don't have it
Sent from my Kindle Fire using xda premium

dude thats awesome
post us some pictures of the phone and the HBOOT menu
If you are S-OFF and supercid, the possibilities are endless... flash an ruu, that should bring you upto date with the latest firmware and software..

azzledazzle said:
dude thats awesome
post us some pictures of the phone and the HBOOT menu
If you are S-OFF and supercid, the possibilities are endless... flash an ruu, that should bring you upto date with the latest firmware and software..
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it wont let me post my photo album because i am still new so i am pm'ing you the link. what are some things i can do with this phone? i'm still a noob but a quick learner. so far i've only flashed a couple of roms. currently using black dragon's. still haven't gotten root access though.

dannyy2200 said:
it wont let me post my photo album because i am still new so i am pm'ing you the link. what are some things i can do with this phone? i'm still a noob but a quick learner. so far i've only flashed a couple of roms. currently using black dragon's. still haven't gotten root access though.
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You could talk to the devs in the development section (as soon as you have your 10 posts) und help them to get s-off with providing informations maybe.

yeah man that would be a great idea, PM some and see if you can help them as for getting the bootloader unlocked, Unless HTCdev isnt working, there isnt much else yet.
why does it not work ? what errors does it give ?

hmm seems that I'm lacking some knowledge ^^
Is there any necessesity for unlocking the bootlaoder if the device already has s-off? Thouht that s-off would mean no security and full system access.

S-OFF means the NAND partition is writeable, When its S-ON this partition is locked (Security ON ), so with S-OFF we can customise even further, Flashing Radio.IMGs and lots more,
With unlocked bootloader we can do things like install a recovery and flash Root.
the perfect scenario would to have S-OFF AND Unlocked Bootloader.

azzledazzle said:
S-OFF means the NAND partition is writeable, When its S-ON this partition is locked (Security ON ), so with S-OFF we can customise even further, Flashing Radio.IMGs and lots more,
With unlocked bootloader we can do things like install a recovery and flash Root.
the perfect scenario would to have S-OFF AND Unlocked Bootloader.
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Ah alright, I thought S-OFF would already allow to flash root.

nope usually when using an S-OFF tool, such as revolutionary, It will unlock bootloader at the same time..
surely theres someone out there can can do something really awesome with this developer phone !!

azzledazzle said:
yeah man that would be a great idea, PM some and see if you can help them as for getting the bootloader unlocked, Unless HTCdev isnt working, there isnt much else yet.
why does it not work ? what errors does it give ?
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well it doesn't give me any errors, and says unlock successful, and just acts as if it went ahead and unlocked, but when i boot into the loader it still says locked. weird.

hmmmm..
maybe theres a command you can use in adb ? Im not sure..
I know the command to relock is ''fastboot oem lock'' maybe ''fastboot oem unlock'' might do something lol.
i have no idea as with most things in my life

What is S-OFF

Hey guys,
I didn't want to post this on the official S-OFF thread cause I didn't want to distract from the dev talk, but I was wondering what S-OFF means. I am coming from a Moto Atrix 4G where S-OFF wasn't a thing, just bootloader unlock and rooting, so if someone could explain it to me that would be awesome. Thanks in advance.

r3xx3r said:
Hey guys,
I didn't want to post this on the official S-OFF thread cause I didn't want to distract from the dev talk, but I was wondering what S-OFF means. I am coming from a Moto Atrix 4G where S-OFF wasn't a thing, just bootloader unlock and rooting, so if someone could explain it to me that would be awesome. Thanks in advance.
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http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...on-htc-android-phones-with-unrevoked-forever/
That page isn't 100% correct since with S-on we can still flash custom recovery, radios, roms, kernel but the general message is correct

Well simply put, s-off allows you to write to partitions we can't normally. It will allow you to downgrade your bootloader and other things of the sort. It doesn't void your warranty, in fact it helps keep it. Once you have unlocked your bootloader when you lock it again it says relocked, with s-off you can change it back to locked. There is more to it but that is basically what it is

thanks for the responses.