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o2 uk and hello

Hello, my first post, awaiting delivery of the eagerly anticipated handset.
Just to let UK owners know, the HTC Sensation is now available to order on o2.
Thanks

I wonder how bad their branding is? I know they've got a later ROM than Vodafone

really, i didnt know that!!! what is missing or late about it?

Later as in newer. The Vodafone ROM is 1.27 whereas the o2 one is 1.34 so should have some bug fixes in it

ahh, i see, soryy for the confusing myself there.
any one out there who has a handset from o2? does it come with the S-OFF?
mine is at home charging whilst im at work

My 2p is to say it'll be S-ON but I might be wrong. Vodafone ones are S-ON

I've had my Sensation on pre-order since May through buymobilephones.net (21.50 pm contract) and £80 for the phone.
Mobiles are charging £220 for the phone on the same contract.
I just hope they deliver...

I'm getting mine tomorrow too (in theory at least!) - will update!

Evil-Dragon said:
I've had my Sensation on pre-order since May through buymobilephones.net (21.50 pm contract) and £80 for the phone.
Mobiles are charging £220 for the phone on the same contract.
I just hope they deliver...
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I quoted O2 the same deal over the phone and the best they could match without me bartering too much was £102 for the phone. Which to be honest, after 30 mins on hold I was ok with. It's been shipped, hopefully arrive tomorrow.

ran93r said:
I quoted O2 the same deal over the phone and the best they could match without me bartering too much was £102 for the phone. Which to be honest, after 30 mins on hold I was ok with. It's been shipped, hopefully arrive tomorrow.
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Good deal. I had no luck getting the price down at all! I had an extra 200 minutes added, but otherwise no cigar!

khani47 said:
ahh, i see, soryy for the confusing myself there.
any one out there who has a handset from o2? does it come with the S-OFF?
mine is at home charging whilst im at work
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Hi,
Is there any branding on the phone?
Thanks.

No branding at all.
So far, very impressed. Apart from when sense decides to 'not respond' so a quick 'on and off' does the trick.
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khani47 said:
No branding at all.
So far, very impressed. Apart from when sense decides to 'not respond' so a quick 'on and off' does the trick.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using Tapatalk
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Nice one, just ordered one from o2 CS.

khani47 said:
No branding at all.
So far, very impressed. Apart from when sense decides to 'not respond' so a quick 'on and off' does the trick.
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What ROM version you running?

I got my dispatch notice from buymobilephones.net today for my Sensation. Fingers crossed i get a good one and not one plagued with problems that i have been reading about over the last few days!

It's running the 1.34.206.1
Is that right?
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Yeah that's right, and I expected that. Nice!

What's different in the ROM my handset is running comapred to yours?
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It's a newer build so will have a few tweaks. As to what they are I've not a clue!

corny2007 said:
Good deal. I had no luck getting the price down at all! I had an extra 200 minutes added, but otherwise no cigar!
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Confirmed running 1.34.206.1.

[OTA]Vodafone UK OTA is now available 1.35.161.2

Just recieved a notification and the the OTA for Vodafone UK users is now available for download
update 1.35.161.2 Android 2.3 which is 27.32MB is size.
-application and system enhancements
- UK only: Vodafone Rescue application update.

Kurisu87 said:
Just recieved a notification and the the OTA for Vodafone UK users is now available for download
update 1.35.161.2 Android 2.3 which is 27.32MB is size.
-application and system enhancements
- UK only: Vodafone Rescue application update.
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any change after update ???
speed
lag
touch sensetivity
apps
????????

Im on voda UK and still not getting this... Says no update available. am i doing somthing wrong?!

Updates tend to be staggered so keep trying. This is, of course, assuming you're on 1.27.161.1 at present

Yay!!
I'm downloading now
About time! Though having said that, the unbranded one was only rolled out last week, so not too long after I guess?
Umm... it's only 27.32 Mb???

xdafun4all said:
any change after update ???
speed
lag
touch sensetivity
apps
????????
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I have not yet installed the updade due to being at work (For some reason I cant bum off their wifi network) Hopfully some of the other users who have had a chance to update would be able to answer this question

charmz2k2 said:
Yay!!
I'm downloading now
About time! Though having said that, the unbranded one was only rolled out last week, so not too long after I guess?
Umm... it's only 27.32 Mb???
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It's only a small update, some bug fixes and the like. It's normal

Ah I see -
I'm not sure where I read, but for some reason I thought it was about 330 Mb!?
hmm...
Ok, well it's installed and now loading up
Will give you feedback in a few mins

Hmm....
Nothing spectacular at the moment...
Scrolling is smooth (it was smooth initially anyways though)...
Got a score of 1900 on Quadrant, whereas I was getting 1800 up till now...
Something is synchronising constantly for the last few minutes (the two arrows in a circle), that's about it at the moment
Really need to test this at home - hopefully the signal issue is fixed! (Kept dropping randomly)

charmz2k2 said:
Ah I see -
I'm not sure where I read, but for some reason I thought it was about 330 Mb!?
hmm...
Ok, well it's installed and now loading up
Will give you feedback in a few mins
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The full RUU is about 400MB but the OTA is small. The article was for a test OTA and was quite large though

Since update
360 voda music tab in music player. Can't remove it
Video player sound is fixed after testing avi file.
Feels more smother.
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360 voda music tab in music player
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Can this not be removed via root or editing the music apk?
vodafone are cheaky bast**ds

That signature looks strangely familiar
Does seem Operators are getting more involved with FW again - really wish they wouldn't!!

EddyOS said:
That signature looks strangely familiar
Does seem Operators are getting more involved with FW again - really wish they wouldn't!!
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You caught me Hope you don't mind , I though my sig looked a buit Naff with nothing in it, lol
but yea, I wish voda would let the OS be, yea ok maybe add an app thats of use, but messing about with stock apps, thats not what I am paying for. I am hoping that rooting s-off will get rid of this vodafone restriction.
I a ( and have asked in the QA section) if it was possible to do what you could do with the old nokias, and thats edit the phones product code so that it would install the offical OTA update (i.e the Eu standard) rather than the branded one.

Also for Ireland
Also now available for Vodafone Ireland. They're possibly the same version of firmware though.

Kurisu87 said:
You caught me Hope you don't mind , I though my sig looked a buit Naff with nothing in it, lol
but yea, I wish voda would let the OS be, yea ok maybe add an app thats of use, but messing about with stock apps, thats not what I am paying for. I am hoping that rooting s-off will get rid of this vodafone restriction.
I a ( and have asked in the QA section) if it was possible to do what you could do with the old nokias, and thats edit the phones product code so that it would install the offical OTA update (i.e the Eu standard) rather than the branded one.
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I don't mind at all mate!!
The gold card that worked on previous HTC handsets would've done the job here too but seems it doesn't with the Sensation at present (which worked in much the same way as old Nokia handsets in that it hid the phone real product code)

hopfully they are working on the gold card, I have seens ome threads regarding development and testing of the gold card, but I assume this is more likly to work when s-off has been achieved.

Once we have S-OFF we can go custom so stock RUUs will be pointless. Just use a custom ROM based on the stock ROM!

Have they done anything sneaky in it that will effect s-off later or is the H-Boot the same? I know the last update for the Legend from Vodafone made it a lot more awkward to root it and at the moment neither Htc nor Vodafone have said if Vodafone will allow s-off. Just a bit scared to update and be ****ed later.

well i asked this on the vodafone forum and the mods replied stating that they don't see why Vodafone would not allow the s-off update to go through. I guess its a good sign when you dont just get the generic 'We don't know at this time'
also I am guessing with a modded rom, this would be better than a stock rom, yet how would you go about getting updates for a modded rom? Just wait for a modder to release an update, also with a modded rom, do they just use the base rom i.e euro standard.

What's up with T-Mobile Sensation updates?!?

So there's already been one update for Euro and now today people are getting 2.3.4 on Euro Sensations? WTF? I paid $600 USD for my T-mobile Sensation 4G...I should have just bought the Euro one so I would get updates.
I don't understand why HTC hasn't even released a maintenance update for T-Mobile Sensation to fix some of the bugs. Frustrating.

Relax guy, you've had the phone for what, 6 weeks? The phone came out first in Europe so its perfectly reasonable that they'd get the updates first. Be patient.

T-Mobile is horrible at pushing updates.
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mobilehavoc said:
So there's already been one update for Euro and now today people are getting 2.3.4 on Euro Sensations? WTF? I paid $600 USD for my T-mobile Sensation 4G...I should have just bought the Euro one so I would get updates.
I don't understand why HTC hasn't even released a maintenance update for T-Mobile Sensation to fix some of the bugs. Frustrating.
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root your phone and you can get all the updates by flashing roms....

nccu_eagles said:
root your phone and you can get all the updates by flashing roms....
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I've been tempted - I've rooted all my previous phones including my G2X that I still have but the problem is I now have work email/calendar on my Sensation via Good For Enterprise. That has a root check that will disable it if you're rooted - there's ways to work around it but it's a bit of a pain. Also I'd rather not root or touch my Sensation if I can get the update from HTC - having done this with many phones, while it's not always as fast the stock ROM on phones is usually the most stable/reliable (big exception is the G2X )

mobilehavoc said:
I've been tempted - I've rooted all my previous phones including my G2X that I still have but the problem is I now have work email/calendar on my Sensation via Good For Enterprise. That has a root check that will disable it if you're rooted - there's ways to work around it but it's a bit of a pain. Also I'd rather not root or touch my Sensation if I can get the update from HTC - having done this with many phones, while it's not always as fast the stock ROM on phones is usually the most stable/reliable (big exception is the G2X )
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Good for Enterprise does not have root check. I have rooted Samsung Vibrant with CM7 on it and Good works no prob.

I had a great conversation with a lady named Monica at HTC call center in Indiana while processing my back cover exchange...She said they are indeed working on the update now and it is in a testing phase...She said that once it clears that then its up to T-mobile to push it out and we have like 3 updates she said. Why so many? IDK but she was very informative and nice.
So in theory she says they have a team that is ALWAYS working on every phones updates until that phone can no longer be supported anymore. So she said not to worry that it is coming and we should see at least 2 by September. Take it with a grain of salt, but I see no reason to not believe her.

Sounds more like a g2x forum with all the update stories
You guys should try baadnewz 2.1 rom which is based on the european 2.3.4. Sense is a pleasure to use on 2.3.4.
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mobilehavoc said:
So there's already been one update for Euro and now today people are getting 2.3.4 on Euro Sensations? WTF? I paid $600 USD for my T-mobile Sensation 4G...I should have just bought the Euro one so I would get updates.
I don't understand why HTC hasn't even released a maintenance update for T-Mobile Sensation to fix some of the bugs. Frustrating.
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enjoy your EDGE speeds

WTF? Pretty sure the Euro Sensation has AWS as well. So I'd be enjoying HSPA+

Any word on T-Mobile Sensation ICS OTA?

We are near the end of this month and still no word about ICS OTA. So, please share any information regarding this thread...thanks!
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Just entered internal testing phase at TMO. Won't come this month. HTC said they would release it by end of this month and THEY did! They released it to TMOBILE. It is now up to TMobile to verify, test, and push out, and I'm sorry to say they have promised nothing in the way of time frames. IF all goe well with internal testing, look for the release in the second half of April to first half of May.

jalyn02 said:
We are near the end of this month and still no word about ICS OTA. So, please share any information regarding this thread...thanks!
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What you have to remember is, when HTC promises a timeframe, that does notnjnclude the timeframe it takes the US carrier to release and update (phones that have the same model, but sold both internationally and in the US).
So as to when T-Mobile will push an ics update, well it's really impossible to tell.
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Don't hold your breath... Tmob USA works at a snails pace!

T-mob tech support
T-mob tech support referred me to HTC's tech support number.

I called the other day about being sent to the teathering web site every time I use my browser, and they told me it's a known issue and tech is currently having issues with ics on their network. So they are probably trying to make everything compatible still
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T-Mobile ICS upgrade
My suspicion is it's going to be a long time, if ever, before we see an official T-Mobile USA ICS upgrade for our Sensations.
Reasons being:
An ICS OTA upgrade will result in a huge bump in calls to T-Mobiles support lines. Having worked in a call center the last thing they want is more calls as more calls mean more $$ going out the door.
An ICS upgrade for the Sensation might undercut sales of the upcoming HTC One, which T-Mobile definitely doesn't want to do.
It would not surprise if the upgrade doesn't come before the fall or even if they blow it off completely. Just my opinion.

greatgoogly said:
My suspicion is it's going to be a long time, if ever, before we see an official T-Mobile USA ICS upgrade for our Sensations.
Reasons being:
An ICS OTA upgrade will result in a huge bump in calls to T-Mobiles support lines. Having worked in a call center the last thing they want is more calls as more calls mean more $$ going out the door.
An ICS upgrade for the Sensation might undercut sales of the upcoming HTC One, which T-Mobile definitely doesn't want to do.
It would not surprise if the upgrade doesn't come before the fall or even if they blow it off completely. Just my opinion.
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Yeah, what you said is not gonna happen. T-mobile upgrades phones all the time. They upgraded the mytouch from froyo to gingerbread, so why would they not upgrade the sensation from gingerbread to ics. They will get more calls to cs for not upgrading it than If they upgrade and have problems. But it will take a little longer, because they gotta get their bloatware working with it.
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Go to manage your apps and clear the internet data and force stop it then try using your browser..I had same issue which fixed my problem
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clr822 said:
Go to manage your apps and clear the internet data and force stop it then try using your browser..I had same issue which fixed my problem
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Um.... Wrong thread?
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geoffcorey said:
Um.... Wrong thread?
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I think he was just referring to the other guy above, no quote just a bit confusing!

You people are so positive! I think that they are simply working to make their bloatware compatible with ics. The first thing I would do is delete that junk.

The tricky thing might be getting Wifi calling to work on ICS. I know some of the Rom developers were having trouble getting this working.
HTC Confirmed that the "Sensation 4G", which is T-mobile's branded version will get ICS, so I certainly think it is coming.
I am just worried their marketing team will push it off till after HTC One and Galaxy SIII launch so they get a bunch of people upgrading/renewing for pre-installed ICS phones...

a4ol said:
You people are so positive! I think that they are simply working to make their bloatware compatible with ics. The first thing I would do is delete that junk.
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Yep, my Sensation just updated to the newest Play store - v.3.5.15 along with a slew of apps that needed to be updated - some good, some bloated; among them Flash player 11 and slacker radio. So maybe these updated apps push may have something to do with ICS incompatibility.
Regardless, T-MO will eventually send out an ICS update. I'm hoping next week, but realistically, sometime in April. May would be a complete joke.

No ICS anytime soon...
Today T-Mobile started replying on Facebook to inquiries regarding ICS on the Sensation with variations of the following "T-Mobile USA Oh you're sporting the sensation, nice! right now we have done some tests with what HTC has provided us for ICS on the Sensation and the results were not exactly what we needed so HTC is currently working on fixing the bugs so we can roll that out. ^KM" In short they are saying they've run into problems and sent it back to HTC for review. Don't see this coming out anytime before the second half of the year.

jrslims67 said:
Yep, my Sensation just updated to the newest Play store - v.3.5.15 along with a slew of apps that needed to be updated - some good, some bloated; among them Flash player 11 and slacker radio. So maybe these updated apps push may have something to do with ICS incompatibility.
Regardless, T-MO will eventually send out an ICS update. I'm hoping next week, but realistically, sometime in April. May would be a complete joke.
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You know you might just be on to somethinng there, the part about the T-Mobile apps updating. I had noticed that like all of my T-Mobile apps updated within the last couple of days, and I do mean all of them. Maybe this is in preparation for the ICS update.

greatgoogly said:
Today T-Mobile started replying on Facebook to inquiries regarding ICS on the Sensation with variations of the following "T-Mobile USA Oh you're sporting the sensation, nice! right now we have done some tests with what HTC has provided us for ICS on the Sensation and the results were not exactly what we needed so HTC is currently working on fixing the bugs so we can roll that out. ^KM" In short they are saying they've run into problems and sent it back to HTC for review. Don't see this coming out anytime before the second half of the year.
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In this case, something tells me that I will not buy a phone from HTC and T-Mobile if it is true.

This video sums it up
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=/watch?v=J3sOBielgjk&v=J3sOBielgjk&gl=US

ridingonfumes said:
This video sums it up
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=/watch?v=J3sOBielgjk&v=J3sOBielgjk&gl=US
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Ha ha ha ha that says it all, it really does..

Contacted T-Mobile tec support....said that ice update is being prepared for ota distribution...I think that tmobilebis just trying to flood it with even more bloatware..

T-Mobile Sensation 4G ICS --RELEASED--

I was speaking with a HTC customer service today with a basic support issue and while i was on the phone with them i asked about android 4.0. I take most claims like this with a grain of salt but being that this is from HTC tech support I assume that it is a reliable source. According to HTC, the ICS update for the T-Mobile Sensation
4G was released to be pushed YESTERDAY with the initial push starting today through April 1st with a schedualed upgrade completion by the end of april. I know there are a lot of naah sayers that will want to attack this post because they believe that it will be summer time or never or after the release og the HTC One S and to counter those comments before they happen i want to say very blatantly "I DONT CARE".

Man I hope whoever told you that was not BSing you. That would be great cause I want to wait for the official update before I S-off, flash a custom recovery and then a custom ICS ROM to my current Sensation.

I believe you,but what they said about it being pushed yesterday.... Does that mean it should be showing at any time today or tommrow?
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fireflamesniper said:
I believe you,but what they said about it being pushed yesterday.... Does that mean it should be showing at any time today or tommrow?
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IF they really did push it yesterday, it should show up SOON. From what I know, the carries have the say if they want it released or not.

T-Macgnolia said:
Man I hope whoever told you that was not BSing you. That would be great cause I want to wait for the official update before I S-off, flash a custom recovery and then a custom ICS ROM to my current Sensation.
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what difference does it make if u that now.....none at all.
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Couple of days ago someone said OTA servers will push updates in the batches of 30,000 , so yeah update is definitely on its way. Though it would be crazy if T-mobile devices get ICS before unbranded devices lol

asesino said:
what difference does it make if u that now.....none at all.
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Well to be honest it does make a difference, the difference being that I want to wait for the OTA. I have that right right you know. Not to mention I rather like the Visual Voice Mail app.
Don't get me wrong I tried several of the very first alpha and Beta ICS ROMs on my original Sensation. It was S-off and Super CID with a custom boot animation that I had made for myself. But it crapped out on me with total shutdown, it would not charge or turn on. And it did this very suddenly. So I had to get a replacement from T-Mobile and I want to keep this one stock until I get to try out the Official OTA for the T-Mobile HTC Sensation 4G. I am doing this just in case I want to request another replacement for any reason, oh and did I mention my replacement had bad dust under the screen so I am really considering replacing it anyway. That is another difference it makes. So as you can see you did not know all the variables and really should not have said something so arrogant. And it does make a difference.

Last night around 10:00 pm T-mobile sent a text and it said OTA UP three times, so I believe something is up......

Last nite I did the *#*#checkin#*#* thing and it came back with updates for almost all of The tmobile branded preinstalled apps.

T-Macgnolia said:
Man I hope whoever told you that was not BSing you. That would be great cause I want to wait for the official update before I S-off, flash a custom recovery and then a custom ICS ROM to my current Sensation.
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If I were you I'll do the S-OFF NOW...once the update been push there's no way to get s-off with hboot 1.27,
Robocik just got his phone back and can't get soff,so he brick his phone
To all US T-Mobile remember if you want S-OFF do it now.
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I just got an OTA but it is NOT ICS OTA.
I got a simple update for Gingerbread. My software number is now 1.50.531.1 before OTA it was 1.45.531.1.. Perhaps it's a prerequisite update ahead of the ICS OTA?

a4ol said:
I just got an OTA but it is NOT ICS OTA.
I got a simple update for Gingerbread. My software number is now 1.50.531.1 before OTA it was 1.45.531.1.. Perhaps it's a prerequisite update ahead of the ICS OTA?
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The 1.50 update was from December.

a4ol said:
I just got an OTA but it is NOT ICS OTA.
I got a simple update for Gingerbread. My software number is now 1.50.531.1 before OTA it was 1.45.531.1.. Perhaps it's a prerequisite update ahead of the ICS OTA?
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A little late to the party I see.
HTC Sensation 4G w/ Beats Audio

Doubt it
On their Facebook page the last couple days T-Mobile has been responding to inquiries about ICS on the Sensation with variations on the following theme "we are currently testing ICS on the Sensation but it isn't the experience we are looking for so HTC is working on our feedback before we send it out and we don't have a time yet. " Doesn't sound like it will be out anytime in the next few weeks. It sounds like T-Mobile and HTC will end up pointing fingers at each other leaving us waiting till at least the second half of the year for our ICS.

T-Macgnolia said:
Well to be honest it does make a difference, the difference being that I want to wait for the OTA. I have that right right you know. Not to mention I rather like the Visual Voice Mail app.
Don't get me wrong I tried several of the very first alpha and Beta ICS ROMs on my original Sensation. It was S-off and Super CID with a custom boot animation that I had made for myself. But it crapped out on me with total shutdown, it would not charge or turn on. And it did this very suddenly. So I had to get a replacement from T-Mobile and I want to keep this one stock until I get to try out the Official OTA for the T-Mobile HTC Sensation 4G. I am doing this just in case I want to request another replacement for any reason, oh and did I mention my replacement had bad dust under the screen so I am really considering replacing it anyway. That is another difference it makes. So as you can see you did not know all the variables and really should not have said something so arrogant. And it does make a difference.
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Well when you make a vague statement that doesn't really make sense to anyone but you.. You kind of invite people to say something...

I for one, feel invited.
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T-Macgnolia said:
Man I hope whoever told you that was not BSing you. That would be great cause I want to wait for the official update before I S-off, flash a custom recovery and then a custom ICS ROM to my current Sensation.
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How does that not make sense? I did say say current Sensation", I have stated many times in my post here about my Sensation dieing on me, I even started a thread
EricDET said:
Well when you make a vague statement that doesn't really make sense to anyone but you.. You kind of invite people to say something...
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enserio said:
I for one, feel invited.
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Really, I mean really! Was any of that necessary, no it is just something to feed ones ego with. I think that XDA senior member kingston73 has it right, XDA " Could be even better without the egos...".

It will get here when it gets here. To be honest, I don't think tmobile is in any rush.
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Idk why everyone is so impatient for T-Mobile to release ics ..I have T-Mobile USA and for example....gingerbread (stock from T-Mobile) was terrible
..wait...horrific! compared to what our friends here at XDA did. ..what makes u think ICS from T-Mobile extra inflated with all the bloat T-Mobile adds in is going to be any where close to the ics roms we have on xda already?
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I just want ICS compatible wifi calling... Hope it's soon.
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