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Humble vs gummy froyo

Title says most. I am going to be getting my charge on tuesday and have been doing some research about what rom to try, and gave it narrowed down to these two. which one do you like more and why? I have read the threads on both and they seem pretty even, just wondering which one you prefer and why...thanks for any and all responses!
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Perhaps you did not research enough, enjoy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171270&highlight=humble

they are both good but I prefer Humble because of the battery savings...Gummy is very snazzy looking though and works pretty much flawlessly and quick. Its a tough choice honestly but I personally want/need the battery to be as efficient as possible and for the Rom to do everything I need it to do.....Humble does that for me..as an example I have been unplugged for 9 hours---dropped 31% battery! I say thats a pretty nice win!
Of course your mileage may vary and everyones battery life is different...I think either way you will be happy...I say try both for a few days each and see

I will be trying both personally...but I have to flash one on both my daughters and wifes phones as well..and they hate it when I change their rom after they her their phone setup
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Heard that, thats why I never work on my familys phone anymore. Lol.

Why do you have to flash it on both of their phones? Just try it yourself and then give out the goods lol,
rand4ll said:
I will be trying both personally...but I have to flash one on both my daughters and wifes phones as well..and they hate it when I change their rom after they her their phone setup
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No one seems to get that battery life is 99 percentinfluenced by the kernel....most framework mods that claim battery savings are either placebo or stupidity
Humble gets good battery life because it packagesimnuts undervolt kernel in
Use the same kernel with gc and you will get virtually identical results

nitsuj17 said:
No one seems to get that battery life is 99 percentinfluenced by the kernel....most framework mods that claim battery savings are either placebo or stupidity
Humble gets good battery life because it packagesimnuts undervolt kernel in
Use the same kernel with gc and you will get virtually identical results
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I'm completely 100% as noob when it comes to this as my Charge is the first smartphone I've ever had and I really want gummyCHARGED but i want good battery life. So how do I do this?

nitsuj17 said:
No one seems to get that battery life is 99 percentinfluenced by the kernel....most framework mods that claim battery savings are either placebo or stupidity
Humble gets good battery life because it packagesimnuts undervolt kernel in
Use the same kernel with gc and you will get virtually identical results
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I used the same kernel on both..not the same battery consumption..sorry

chiahead52 said:
I used the same kernel on both..not the same battery consumption..sorry
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There is little to nothing in a rom that would impact battery life unless there is an app that is not letting the phone sleep if something

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There is little to nothing in a rom that would impact battery life unless there is an app that is not letting the phone sleep if something
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well at any rate it is a truth..I have tried gummy on 2 totally separate occasions and battery life on Humble(which I have also tried switched back and forth from) is a decent amount better..I dont know why but it is......I always flash the same exact kernel which is Imnuts non OC one

I was using imnuts pbj voodoo kernel and decided to try gummycharged and it just locked up the phone, sloooooow reaction to moving screens, scrolling, opening apps, etc and would lock up all the time... might've been my imagination but data (3G/4G) seemed flaky too, even after several wipes and reflashes. Guess my Charge doesn't like it Oh well I just loaded up the debloated EE4 and it flies with imnuts kernel
blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge

hockeybpr25 said:
I'm completely 100% as noob when it comes to this as my Charge is the first smartphone I've ever had and I really want gummyCHARGED but i want good battery life. So how do I do this?
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First smart phone u have ever had and you want to mod it before u even have it? How do u even know about smartphone mods without having a smartphone as a frame of reference?
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msticlaru said:
First smart phone u have ever had and you want to mod it before u even have it? How do u even know about smartphone mods without having a smartphone as a frame of reference?
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uhmmmm i want better battery life. i'm a CS major too so i'm fine with technology, i just never wanted to pay the 30 a month for data until now. and i've had the phone for a few weeks now.

Humble has great battery life, don't want to disregard what Nitsuj said but I swear I have much better battery life switching over to Humble then I did on GC. It might just be the battery gremlins but the battery life was noticeably different, maybe it's just my imagination since its advertised to be a low power ROM.
Humble has some cool animations, it's sort of a love hate thing. You may get incredibly sick of it after awhile but you can easily turn the option off.
Humble is updated very frequently, that might not be a good thing for you. It's very easy to flash the updated versions if you're already on Humble but you may not want to keep downloading new updates every few days, I personally love it. Keeps the ROM fresh.
Humble doesn't have that nasty freeze/reboot issue that happened about once every day or two on GC. Might have been a bad flash but I read about others saying it happened to them as well.

I believe Humble has an increased Dalvik cache which supposedly is the source of increased battery life. I have personally never used GC, but flashed Humble on day one and fell in love with it compared to the stock ROM.
Sent from my Droid Charge running Humble 1.4

chiahead52 said:
well at any rate it is a truth..I have tried gummy on 2 totally separate occasions and battery life on Humble(which I have also tried switched back and forth from) is a decent amount better..I dont know why but it is......I always flash the same exact kernel which is Imnuts non OC one
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I hate it when people that obviously have no clue as to what they are talking about start making BS up.. Especially ones who disagree with people who obviously know a ton more than them like nitsuj17....
I can tell you right here and now that there is no way that Humble has significantly better battery life the GC or vice versa..
I am not here to rip on Humble its fine rom (Its built on the GummyCharges base) and if people like it better than GC than that is fine. But people who spread BS piss me off.
I have been making ROM's for the better part of a year now across multiple Phone(three) and will tell you that any ROM especially ones built from the OTA (such as these) will never see an increase of more or less than 5 ~ 10% better battery life with any tweak you can apply. The increase they do get is from removing bloat and install custom Kernels..
If both ROM's were set side by side with the same kernel they would more or lass last the same amount time under the same utilization.
Making a change to the heap size in the build.prop will not change battery life, anyone who tells you that is full of $hit or obviously clueless..
Sorry gotta call FUD when I see FUD
To the OP I suggest yo try out all the ROM's and make the decision based on your own opinion.. Most ROM's will be a vast improvement over stock.

kejar31 said:
I hate it when people that obviously have no clue as to what they are talking about start making BS up.. Especially ones who disagree with people who obviously know a ton more than them like nitsuj17....
I can tell you right here and now that there is no way that Humble has significantly better battery life the GC or vice versa..
I am not here to rip on Humble its fine rom (Its built on the GummyCharges base) and if people like it better than GC than that is fine. But people who spread BS piss me off.
I have been making ROM's for the better part of a year now across multiple Phone(three) and will tell you that any ROM especially ones built from the OTA (such as these) will never see an increase of more or less than 5 ~ 10% better battery life with any tweak you can apply. The increase they do get is from removing bloat and install custom Kernels..
If both ROM's were set side by side with the same kernel they would more or lass last the same amount time under the same utilization.
Making a change to the heap size in the build.prop will not change battery life, anyone who tells you that is full of $hit or obviously clueless..
Sorry gotta call FUD when I see FUD
To the OP I suggest yo try out all the ROM's and make the decision based on your own opinion.. Most ROM's will be a vast improvement over stock.
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how is my personal experience making BS up? Like I stated I dont know why the battery life is better. I am not a dev or even super experienced in smart phones. but the fact is with the same Kernel and the exact same apps running that are restored from TB on all ROMs the battery life is different. I appreciate everything that everyone does here to improve and make these devices better than they originally came out. The things you guys do and the knowledge you have is crazy. Way more than I can ever understand personally.
Maybe it was an error on my part when I installed the other various ROM's. I dunno...but my own personal experience is not BS. Its upsetting to have someone claim that my honest experiences with my device are BS. I receive no benefit to claiming either is better or whatever. If you see post #3 I pretty much said what you said. try them out and form your own opinion.

chiahead52 said:
well at any rate it is a truth..I have tried gummy on 2 totally separate occasions and battery life on Humble(which I have also tried switched back and forth from) is a decent amount better..I dont know why but it is......I always flash the same exact kernel which is Imnuts non OC one
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chiahead52 said:
how is my personal experience making BS up? Like I stated I dont know why the battery life is better. I am not a dev or even super experienced in smart phones. but the fact is with the same Kernel and the exact same apps running that are restored from TB on all ROMs the battery life is different. I appreciate everything that everyone does here to improve and make these devices better than they originally came out. The things you guys do and the knowledge you have is crazy. Way more than I can ever understand personally.
Maybe it was an error on my part when I installed the other various ROM's. I dunno...but my own personal experience is not BS. Its upsetting to have someone claim that my honest experiences with my device are BS. I receive no benefit to claiming either is better or whatever. If you see post #3 I pretty much said what you said. try them out and form your own opinion.
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Because like it or not your opinion is based on perception and perception is easily fooled when it comes to battery life on these phones. I have seen it again and again. People believe that one ROM has better battery life than another bla bla bla.. Most if not all those people have no numbers to back up their assumption.. To top that off I am sure you did not recondition your battery stats before using each ROM.
And on top of all that its almost impossible to create an environment where you actually test each phone equally.
So what we have to go by is what is actually changed.. And I can tell you here and now... Its almost nothing, nothing under the hood is that much different at least in the modules and drivers and radio and kernel. And as someone who is a dev I can tell you that nothing about either ROM can make that much difference in battery life.

I have gotten good results and battery life from humble. First time i used gc it didnt do well on my phone. Not sure why. Second time around it was much better.
I also used altered beast v4 and it was just awful on my phone. Exchanged my phone for a new one and installed the same v4 as before and it was like a totally different rom.
I have had similar experiences with blackberries as well and if i remember correctly people always said roms act differently with other same model phones
I always set my phone up the same way and with the same apps and widgets.

[Q] Rom Help

Hey people
I am getting the charge tomorrow after having the fascinate for 6 months..I used CWM and ran Evil Fasacination on that for most of the time and i wanted some help on seeing what everyone thought was the best rom or kernel was to go to after using thoes thing. Also i want to know how to do it with the charge and is it like the fascinate?
Thanks
King C

ballerfree said:
Hey people
I am getting the charge tomorrow after having the fascinate for 6 months..I used CWM and ran Evil Fasacination on that for most of the time and i wanted some help on seeing what everyone thought was the best rom or kernel was to go to after using thoes thing. Also i want to know how to do it with the charge and is it like the fascinate?
Thanks
King C
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don't mean to be rude but wrong section bro, mods move this to general...
anyways your best choices right now to get the Fassy experience are probably froyo roms with a voodoo kernel
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ballerfree said:
Hey people
I am getting the charge tomorrow after having the fascinate for 6 months..I used CWM and ran Evil Fasacination on that for most of the time and i wanted some help on seeing what everyone thought was the best rom or kernel was to go to after using thoes thing. Also i want to know how to do it with the charge and is it like the fascinate?
Thanks
King C
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Personally, and I have tried many of the Rom's, I ended up using the Debloated Ginger Bread Leak EP1F and Loaded the EE4 Radios from Kejar31 and here is why. On Froyo, which is what your phone will come with, the battery did not last that long. I loaded the EP1F G/B leak and noticed a huge difference. I tried the latest leak EP1H but noticed a few issues so I went back to EP1F. I was having an issue with 4G and running Barnicle as well as other issues on EP1H but since I went back and loaded the EE4 Radios things have been great.... Once you do you can download Launcher Pro from the market and rootexplorer and tweek anything else you need to tweek.
Hope it helps.

If you liked Evil Fascination, then the choice is obvious: Eclipse, which is Nitro's ROM for this phone and is basically EF+ for the Charge. Just had a big update today, too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144015
And FYI, the last poster's claims about Froyo battery life are just wrong. It's the kernel that really determines your battery life, and as for that, just like on the Fascinate, your best bet for great battery life is imnuts' undervolted PeanutButta Jelly Time:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104634

Falcyn said:
If you liked Evil Fascination, then the choice is obvious: Eclipse, which is Nitro's ROM for this phone and is basically EF+ for the Charge. Just had a big update today, too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144015
And FYI, the last poster's claims about Froyo battery life are just wrong. It's the kernel that really determines your battery life, and as for that, just like on the Fascinate, your best bet for great battery life is imnuts' undervolted PeanutButta Jelly Time:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104634
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Read the 1st word I wrote (Personally) Don't tell me I am wrong. I stated my experience and there is no way I am wrong. Also for your info, many people stated they are having better battery life on Ginger Bread then they did on Froyo. If you disagree you have your right to state your opinion but don't state I was wrong based on my experience. I have tried PB&J and tried both A/B and Gummy and I have not experienced as good battery life as I have on Ginger Bread.

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Unacceptable Battery Life

I flashed to the Infuse v2 beta 1 and now I'm only getting 14-16 hours per charge with heavy use.
Thanks gtg465x and all the dev's working on this.

Same here, I flashed yesterday. So far I have 14 hours and I am barely at 70%.
Luis

Most people say that Beta 2 has a much better battery performance, so it might be best to try that for size
EDIT: oh, I get it

I had terrible battery results on the Infused ROMs... I keep hoping it'll improve, but have essentially given up. People always say "battery is better" but it's simply wishful thinking. Nothing is better than stock, but some ROMs are better than others. I was running 10% an hour drain on Infused even from clean install. Blehh.

bella92108 said:
I had terrible battery results on the Infused ROMs... I keep hoping it'll improve, but have essentially given up. People always say "battery is better" but it's simply wishful thinking. Nothing is better than stock, but some ROMs are better than others. I was running 10% an hour drain on Infused even from clean install. Blehh.
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Is there a thread that talks about improving battery life on stock? Would installing this task manager ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...postcount=3398 help?

evaporic said:
Is there a thread that talks about improving battery life on stock? Would installing this task manager ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...postcount=3398 help?
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Battery life on stock? Never heard anyone complain about it except when on a non-stock ROM

I only got about 5-6 hours on stock rom. Today I was at 6% after 17 1/2 hours of fairly heavy use.

Truckerglenn said:
I only got about 5-6 hours on stock rom. Today I was at 6% after 17 1/2 hours of fairly heavy use.
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Werid, I get 2 days EASY out of the stock. I've had Infused (1.0, 1.5.2, 1.5.3) and Refused, and both of them lost 5-10% per hour, so I couldn't get through the business day. Many people have reported the same... :-(

evaporic said:
Is there a thread that talks about improving battery life on stock? Would installing this task manager ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...postcount=3398 help?
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when my battery dies quickly, i restart the phone... that usually takes care of the draining issue.

It sucks that you are having such a problem with ROMs, I have been running infused 1.5.3(kernel that comes with that) for about 2 weeks and I can get 2 days out of my battery pretty easy. although I'm not a real heavy user I still think this is good. I was getting about the same battery life with stock. with the screen off I drop about .5% an hour. only thing I can think of is that I was at 100% charge when I flashed Infused, I also kept phone on the charger for about 8 hours after flash then let it drain all the way b4 charging again.

I get very bad battery life with infused v1. I can drain the battery in about 3 hours of use, plus it takes hours to charge with a 2 amp charger . My GPS is pretty much worthless as well. Even after the agps source fix
Very dissapointed with this rom so far.

hsc123 said:
when my battery dies quickly, i restart the phone... that usually takes care of the draining issue.
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No logical reason that would fix it, but okay.

bella92108 said:
No logical reason that would fix it, but okay.
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Yea Bella on gb logically there is a drain issue where the os. Runs constantly a battery pull or reeboot fixes this
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bella92108 said:
No logical reason that would fix it, but okay.
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tyshemi said:
Yea Bella on gb logically there is a drain issue where the os. Runs constantly a battery pull or reeboot fixes this
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The user said they're on infused v1, not GB

Um either way if your os Is higher than brightness that's a fix. But never had that issue infused was great but too each there own.
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I personally get 14+ he's on all rom's and GPS is great. I can depend how good your signal is and if a towers down or just a bad unit. I can help u with GPS pm me
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bella92108 said:
The user said they're on infused v1, not GB
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Do you have something against GTG and his roms? Why don't you go flash another rom and complain about there shhhhtuff too. Quit bashing on GTGs work, his roms have and do work great for me with only minimal issues with recent beta release but that's beta for ya. Battery has been Great by the way. Maybe you should go through your apps to find that ghost battery thief or just plain stick to stock and shut it!!
Big dog Infuse I997 running Infused v2 beta3 Gingerbread, Gingerbread OP kernel

bignate78 said:
Do you have something against GTG and his roms? Why don't you go flash another rom and complain about there shhhhtuff too. Quit bashing on GTGs work, his roms have and do work great for me with only minimal issues with recent beta release but that's beta for ya. Battery has been Great by the way. Maybe you should go through your apps to find that ghost battery thief or just plain stick to stock and shut it!!
Big dog Infuse I997 running Infused v2 beta3 Gingerbread, Gingerbread OP kernel
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Wow bitter much? Its okay to discuss problems. Obviously I am not the only one who has battery issues ... you need to troll elsewhere. You're like the apple fanboys that bash anyone who has a legitimate problem.

bella92108 said:
Wow bitter much? Its okay to discuss problems. Obviously I am not the only one who has battery issues ... you need to troll elsewhere. You're like the apple fanboys that bash anyone who has a legitimate problem.
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Troll? Lol doubtful, but whatever helps you sleep at night sweetheart. Have fun never getting out of stock!
Big dog Infuse I997 running Infused v2 beta3 Gingerbread, Gingerbread OP kernel

[Q] What are the best ROMS for battery life?

Which roms are the best for improving battery life, which is my main challenge and issue with this device, as I am finding pretty much everything else great?

I don't want to sound harsh but what is the point of these threads?
People use phones in different ways. I use mine only to make calls and send txt msges and my battery lasts 2-3 days without a single charge, on froyo, gb, faux rom and miui
while for others who constantly browse web with 4g or play games expect the device to last a week without a charge...
oh well
/end rant

I think any stock speed kernal will save battery if you put brightness on auto
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besthijacker said:
I don't want to sound harsh but what is the point of these threads?
People use phones in different ways. I use mine only to make calls and send txt msges and my battery lasts 2-3 days without a single charge, on froyo, gb, faux rom and miui
while for others who constantly browse web with 4g or play games expect the device to last a week without a charge...
oh well
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Why do you have a smartphone then?
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All of the 2.3.3 ROM
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moshe22 said:
All of the 2.3.3 ROM
Sent From My G2x Running Weapon
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EaglesBlood 2.3.3 , Xboarder's Stock Tweaked, and Weapon G2x all give me much better battery life than the stock 2.3.3 OTA did.

XBoarders tweaked ROM has breathed new life into my battery life. I was remarking yesterday that I got 16+ hours and was still above 60% at the end of the day.

I've been on CM7 - Nightly 99 and the battery life has been fantastic. Was at 45% left last night after 17 hours off charge.
This was moderate use, with WiFi / WiFi calling on for about 60% of the day (which obviously helps).
Everything (mostly) keeps getting better with this phone.

I prefer EaglesBlood 2.3.3 OTA ROM. It's very stable, and if you use SetCPU, you can easily get through an entire day with it. I lasted 10 hours with moderate to heavy usage, and that's really good for me.

i had the best battery life with Ultimate ROM and faux kernel.
im on CM7(101) with Fauxs Stock voltage Kernel with set cpu at 389/389 on screen off and i get 8+ hours using the phone all day on "4G" web and a lot of texting. i calibrate the battery every time i do a nightly update. once you go CM7 you wont go back to anything else ill tell you that much

[Q] Humble or GUmmy gingerbread

I have been running GUmmyCharged 1.9.1 froyo for a while now and looking to upgrade to gingerbread. I have been very happy with gummycharged, although battery life could be better. Would you all recommend switching to Humble 3.1 gingerbread or sticking with GummyCharged 2.0 RC?
is there anything special i need to know if i decided to flash from gummy to humble?
Thanks in advance. THis is the best forum for android users. hands down.

I was on Gummy 1.9.1 for months and absolutely loved it.
I got bored one day at work however & decided to try a GB ROM. The TBH leak had just come out, so I decided to try that. I flashed to that with the latest imoseyon kernel. Other than the colors being kinda ugly, it worked super.
A few days ago, I odined the latest Humble GB ROM just for kicks. Other than the fact that it's better looking, I can tell almost no difference whatever between the two setups.
~John

Stay with gummycharged. To my experience, gummycharged does not have as good a battery life as humble but there are subtle things that keep me with gummycharged.

I prefer imnut's TW4 build of EP1W over either Gummy or Humble, at the moment, though I'll probably try Humble again when he gets the full battery notification removed.
TW4 is very, very lean, and very quick.

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there are subtle things that keep me with gummycharged.
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Like what??
I'm not disagreeing, I'm just curious??
~John

I refuse to use Humble for personal reasons.
The claims that Humble has better battery life are completely unfounded. All in all, they are the same speed and battery life, it's just a matter of what interface you like best.
Sent from my Droid Charge running GummyCharged 2.0

Thank you all for the response. I will probably stick with Gummy.

I have used both..Humble 3.1 is very stable, battery life is excellent Quadrant scores were consistently in the 2000 range, and I have experienced no issues so far.
Gummycharged 2.0RC1.5 was very quick also, very smooth but had syncing issues and I had some random fc's..its a matter of preference
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shrike1978 said:
I prefer imnut's TW4 build of EP1W over either Gummy or Humble, at the moment, though I'll probably try Humble again when he gets the full battery notification removed.
TW4 is very, very lean, and very quick.
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where can i find that link? i looked in development section but didn't find it.

jager420 said:
where can i find that link? i looked in development section but didn't find it.
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http://rootzwiki.com/forumdisplay.php?295-Teamsbrissenmod-charge

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I would recommend trying both out for a week. That's what I did with humble 3.0. 2 days ago I switched to gummy 2.0 RC 1.5.
So far I prefer humble, I did a have very noticeably improved battery life over gummy, it also was alot smoother and real world use was extremely fast. I like the customization available for gummy but it looks like ill be going back to humble unless a new build of gummy comes out.
On another note I still use the ee4 modem. I am experiencing the same crackle that is notorious with the EP modems, but my 4g remains more consistent and the transition to 3g isn't noticeable at all. Hope this will help.
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jager420 said:
where can i find that link? i looked in development section but didn't find it.
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You now have a 4th EP1W based choice developed by P3Droid & BBCrackman.
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