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Creating Windows Mobile 6 ROMs

Hello,
I wanted to ask is it legal to create WM6 ROMs for the HTC Wizard . Thnx in advance .

We are not CREATING ROMS, we are EDITING them to our needs and specifications.. for instance u dont like something that comes in the rom, or u want to add something to the rom (thus saving u space, for storage and Program) you just EDIt the rom.... by using the kitchens and packages.. hope i have answered your question

funkadesi said:
We are not CREATING ROMS, we are EDITING them to our needs and specifications.. for instance u dont like something that comes in the rom, or u want to add something to the rom (thus saving u space, for storage and Program) you just EDIt the rom.... by using the kitchens and packages.. hope i have answered your question
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Sorry but still my questions remains but a changed a bit now, IS EDITING ROMS TO OUR NEEDS ILLEGAL? Thnx to funkadesi.

i would say this with some certainty, but maybe a senior member can correct me:
to edit a ROM to your own specifications and put on your device for your own personal use is not illegal, as long as the method by which the original rom was obtained was not illegal.
to edit a ROM and redistribute it to others likely crosses a legal line.

Why Does It Matter???
I'm curious why it matters so much. Fact is, for the Wizard, we would not and never will have a true WM6...and frankly, I could care less if I have a cooked rom, especially since my rom is better than what I would get from Tmo...who also will not provide any updates. So if I am to be held to pay for a new device for hundreds of dollars to have a WM6 rom, or use one of XDA's talented chef/developer's rom's...well hands down, I will stick with xda. If that makes me illegal, screw it. I refuse to use the crappy stock Tmo WM5 rom that came on my device...it is slow and buggy and needed daily rebooting. The only time my phone gets a reboot now is when I have to do it for a program install or uninstall. My beloved Jaguar is so dependably stable...I will never go back to a stock rom!!
I honestly do not know the ethics/morality behind cooking a rom, and really don't care either!! All I know is that XDA has given more to the "Wizarding" community than M$, Tmo, AT&T or any of those other greedy bastards ever have or ever will. I sleep just fine at night despite my use of NTS's rom.
Tell me this...let's say you bought a designer suit, but it didn't quite fit right...would tailoring it to your needs be in some violation? You bought the suit, you need it to fit you, so you modify to do so.
I bought the MDA. Someone somewhere also bought a device with WM6...it got tailored to my needs. Not point by point the same thing as my suit example, but since M$ refuses to produce a WM6 for a my device, why should I be punished and forced to buy a different device when my Wizard works so well?? Why buy another suit to wear when you can simply get the one you have tailored to fit you?

xsbeats said:
i would say this with some certainty, but maybe a senior member can correct me:
to edit a ROM to your own specifications and put on your device for your own personal use is not illegal, as long as the method by which the original rom was obtained was not illegal.
to edit a ROM and redistribute it to others likely crosses a legal line.
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I didn't understand that, u mean that if i edit a ROM and redistribute it for free on my site, would it be illegal? Sorry for my lack of understanding. Thnx to xsbeats too .

xda2_haseeb said:
I didn't understand that, u mean that if i edit a ROM and redistribute it for free on my site, would it be illegal? Sorry for my lack of understanding. Thnx to xsbeats too .
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See, now more info is coming out from you. You are not wondering if it is illegal...you are wondering if posting a cooked rom on YOUR WEBSITE illegal. That would be something for the mods to answer...
I do not know the legality behind it, but XDA developers share their rom's here. Now I think if you tried to SELL a cooked rom, you could definately end up in some legal issues.

basically it doesn't really matter if it's illegal or not, it's nothing that will ever come back to you...
picture this...a cop jumps out of his car and is on fire, and you pee on him to put the fire out...yeah, you pee'd on a cop, but you also saved his life. lol, that probably proved nothing, but i found it kind of funny. basically it may be illegal it may not be, but nothing will ever come of it, so i wouldn't even ponder on it too much

All I'd say is that you make sure the rom you post is your work...because if you post another cook's rom without their permission or without giving them the credit, you will most probably have a pissed off XDA developer on your ass...and I'd think that could be worse than any BS legal threats that M$ will probably never do!!!

xda2_haseeb said:
I didn't understand that, u mean that if i edit a ROM and redistribute it for free on my site, would it be illegal? Sorry for my lack of understanding. Thnx to xsbeats too .
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XDA-Dev used to store the roms right here on this website. Due to pressure from cell companies (as I understand it), Microsoft used legal threats to force xda-dev to remove all the roms (that was almost a year ago, and many felt that would kill this site). Thats why you mostly have to deal with getting them via rapidshare or whatever.
The Eula says WM is not to be modified or redistibuted.
I do know that some people from htc, Microsoft and AT&T watch this site and actually love the work that goes on here (Others definetly don't feel the same).

Just my thoughts...
mfrazzz said:
I do know that some people from htc, Microsoft and AT&T watch this site and actually love the work that goes on here
Code:
That is because XDA kicks ass!
(Others definetly don't feel the same)
Code:
Well that would probably be similar to having penis envy...
they know XDA rocks and that they don't match up!
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^^^Well at least that is my view on the subject!^^^

Here's the bottom line, when you get down to it.
You kill a resource like this, a lot of Wizard owners will buy a Nokia.
Then Microsoft and HTC never sell that person another device/OS on a mobile platform.
That's kind of a problem for them. Unlike the desktop PC where you pretty much have to run Windows for a lot of purposes, on the mobile side there is no particular need to use a HTC device or Windows Mobile - there ARE other, competing alternatives that in fact have majority market share.
The carriers "efforts" in this regard are beyond lame and border on stupid. The instability in most of the stock ROMs are nutty bad and there is no "retail" upgrade option available (that is, unlike my home PC, for which I CAN go buy Vista, the option doesn't exist for my HTC Wizard)

Here's an ineresting article that has a Microsoftie recommending using some rom tools to pull out products like rdp for various reasons
msmobiles article
Money Quote:
MSMobiles said:
Scott Yost from Windows Mobile division of Microsoft USA, who specializes there in code signing, security policies, revocation and certificates, admits:
There are unsupported tools externally available that are able to copy the modules out of ROM and then try to reconstruct the original file. If you still need to extract those bytes, you can probably find one of those tools.
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Thnx everybosy for there replies my question is now answered, i have come to the point that:
""I can edit and keep a ROM on my own site""
Do correct if mistaken.
Thnx to all.

Windows Mobile 7 - HERE

http://microsoft.blognewschannel.co...bile-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-motion-gestures/

link error
please post a link that works. thanks!

scortan said:
please post a link that works. thanks!
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The link is working fine!

That looks a little fake if you ask me?
Check this photo out in particular, full Office 2007 tabbed mode:
http://www.zooomr.com/photos/[email protected]/4073003/
I know he says it was used only for a mock-up, but still... All seems a little amateurish?

WLC-89 said:
That looks a little fake if you ask me?
Check this photo out in particular, full Office 2007 tabbed mode:
http://www.zooomr.com/photos/[email protected]/4073003/
I know he says it was used only for a mock-up, but still... All seems a little amateurish?
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Just what i thought too!
It looks more like something MS could do to quickly put up something against the iPhone, android when they have nothing tangible to show. The best way to retaliate immediately with the best of their capability right now is by making a fancy document!
Will be another vista story in the mobile space i guess....promise a lot and dont deliver much!
If they really had so much cooking, i doubt if HTC would have shifted loyalty towards google...if i was the ceo of htc, i would stick tight with MS! I guess, right now all these are just immediate plans an artist has put together to ensure they stay in the market space!
I'd love to be proved wrong ;o))
The fact is, I will continue to use only an MS based OS with or without the fancy stuff for its own not-needed-explain reasons!
Cheers,
San

http://www.engadget.com/photos/is-this-windows-mobile-7/561219/

nice ....................

Research Soft Beat Maker

Look video
http://www.youtube.com/v/QiNTC6mSrnU&hl=fr&fs=1
hello everybody
I search this software for windows mobile, can you help me please

Tell me when you found it...this a nice app!!

it exists for the iphone but I have not yet found for windows mobile

we need this program STAT!!!!.....I know i'm not the only DJ/producer on here.....

I have an old app that works on WM 6.1 called SSEYO MiniMixa. It was made by Tao Group. The company has been sold to Intermorphic Ltd and they are reworking MiniMixa and re-branding it Mixtikl and you can find info about it here. I read in there blog that they are trying for an October release date.
Link to Mixtikl -> http://www.intermorphic.com/tools/mixtikl/index.html
Be sure and check out the screen shots.
Looks like it could blow the lid off Beat Maker. Guess we'll see.

JudgeDredd67 said:
I have an old app that works on WM 6.1 called SSEYO MiniMixa. It was made by Tao Group. The company has been sold to Intermorphic Ltd and they are reworking MiniMixa and re-branding it Mixtikl and you can find info about it here. I read in there blog that they are trying for an October release date.
Link to Mixtikl -> http://www.intermorphic.com/tools/mixtikl/index.html
Be sure and check out the screen shots.
Looks like it could blow the lid off Beat Maker. Guess we'll see.
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thanks you very much
I will read the site

This is a great app, am getting an ipod touch just for this program ( even though I love my HTC I would spend the cash for this app.

Search google for a Z4, it's a beat making program for pocketpc...i have it but it's back at home on my desktop computer but im in college so there's no way for me to send it

ReYCangri said:
Search google for a Z4, it's a beat making program for pocketpc...i have it but it's back at home on my desktop computer but im in college so there's no way for me to send it
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ha cool, thank you, you could send it to us or leave the address for downloading .. awaiting your return home thank you in advance
EDIT/ I found.. http://www.z4soft.com/windows-mobile-pocket-pc/z4music-sequencer/index.php

another tool: phoenix studio
its pretty sweet actually, but no export to mp3.
easy to get acidy sounds:
http://classic.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=2754
check it out... like i said very nice, fully featured.

Since This post is posted before the Announcment of the new rules, im not moving this Thread to the Q&A Forum, momentarily that is
Edit : Green light to Move the Post to Q&A's Forum

Here is one to try as well.
http://www.4pockets.com/product_info.php?p=58
in action....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXrGo1Kr53c
Personally, I think this is the best audio/midi sequencer for the ppc.
PM me If you'd like lepsyfou. I have a special link to that software

Anything else out there that is more current? Mixtikl seems to be in Beta at the moment and the other programs are clearly on there last legs or lack a true VGA skin.
This seems to be where new Winmo devices should shine outside of the capacitive touch and screen size of the IP.. That Iphone is churning out some cool tools, but the hardware is approaching its limits where our phones have room to grow (tabbed programs, RAM, memory, storage)...

I'm gonna throw my 2 cents in for what it's worth...
Griff: http://www.planetgriff.com/
Syntrax: http://www.finished.nl/
Neither one of them are great, that's why I'm looking for something better. If you have anything let me know too! =)

Somebody with GARMINFone get the APK ??

I would love to see someone with the new T-Mobile Garminfone pull out the apk and see if we can use it in our Incredibles. I would just love to see how it would work on a real powerhouse of a phone ;-)

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Hmmm, bad idea -1

madman34 said:
I would love to see someone with the new T-Mobile Garminfone pull out the apk and see if we can use it in our Incredibles. I would just love to see how it would work on a real powerhouse of a phone ;-)
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Watch out! I did a google search and I found another thread on xda...
http: //forum.xda-developers.com/showpost . php?p=7636980&postcount=5
here is the excerpt
NotATreoFan said:
This post shall serve as the first and only warning regarding the Garmin application and maps. Anybody who shares them or asks for them to be shared will be banned.
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I guess this is bad behavior.
New user so I can link

[email protected] said:
Watch out! I did a google search and I found another thread on xda...
http: //forum.xda-developers.com/showpost . php?p=7636980&postcount=5
here is the excerpt
I guess this is bad behavior.
New user so I can link
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Thanks for sharing =)

So anything you rip off another phone is illegal, how come we do it with alot of stuff on here... then again what do i care /ripriprip

The problem with this is that it's the map data mostly. When I was on Windows Mobile, we had the same problem with Microsoft Voice Command. Even though it came with most WM phones, you weren't aloud to share the .cab (equivalent to .apk) file for it. In fact, cooking roms with it was kinda frowned upon. The problem was the licensing, because Microsoft actually charged for the app, for the few phones that came without it (the manufacturer had the option to use it, I'm guessing they decided to just pay for it to have it come loaded). Even when TomTom came out with a "trial" for one specific WM phone, the cracked program wasn't allowed on XDA, even though cracking it just made it possible to use it on other phones...... You still had to buy the maps from TomTom for the phone..... It's all just a CYOA policy, and it's what makes sure XDA won't be shut down!

So I guess the question is: if I am able to find the.apk, would it work on my inc. Has there been any success stories?

It would certainly be interesting to find out. I remember someone in the past had made a GPS Phone based off Windows Mobile. I can't remember who offhand, but I'd think it would be more profitable for them to release the software for a reasonable price than to offer it only on their phone, which who knows how much they're really making off it. I mean it comes down to profit, but I'd think that considering my DInc came with built in Nav for free, and is a much better phone, why pay a premium for a phone with GPS, when you can get a better *phone* and add GPS software for a minimal cost (or use the FREE one included!). Just my thoughts though.....

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Wow. First time I've seen something like this. Interesting. I can't wait to see what kind of responses this app gets.

Thanks for your support.
Any feedback would be preciated!

This is fine, but basically assumes everyone is either a straight man or a lesbian, which is exactly what i expected to be to be honest...

LMFAO!
Might aswell just browse /s on 4chan.

Tried this. Good idea, but its pretty slow and unresponsive on my N1.

LoL, this is why Microsoft wants to review apps that are sent in for their marketplace. Have you published this one on the Android Market? I'm very curious if Google will react on this.

appelflap said:
LoL, this is why Microsoft wants to review apps that are sent in for their marketplace. Have you published this one on the Android Market? I'm very curious if Google will react on this.
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And this is why I will NEVER use a Microsoft or Apple phone. I prefer to have the choice not the other way around.

Intercepter said:
And this is why I will NEVER use a Microsoft or Apple phone. I prefer to have the choice not the other way around.
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Yes, but I'm very curious what Google will do.
(Of course you can always sideload, although I wonder how far the community is to "enable" this on WP7)

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