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Hopefully this is not a trend...
My daughter, who is away at school, received a notice on her phone a couple of weeks back that there was an updated available. She was a bit nervous about doing it so waited until she was home over the weekend a week and a half ago and asked me about it. I told her to go ahead and do it. She hit the button to install the update. It downloaded, displayed an error message and the phone turned off. It wouldn't turn back on. We searched a bit, tried all the known key combinations to reset it, but it was a brick.
So the next day I headed over to the AT&T store. They tried a few things and agreed that it was dead. They checked the phone over and stated there was no physical or water damage. They contacted the warranty center over the phone, arranged for the return and handed me the phone handset to agree to terms. Turns out the only way they would warranty the phone is if I sent them the phone and agreed, in advance, to pay $459 if they decided it was not a warranty issue. I asked for clarification, repeated what had happened, and they just kept saying that was the requirement. I mentioned that the store rep and manager had already checked the phone, that there was no physical or water damage, and tried to understand why I would still have to agree to these terms. I asked if they would just agree to send the phone back if there was any other problem. They just kept repeating the same thing, I had to agree to the $459 potential charge with no recourse. They kept stating that I "would probably not be charged." I would not agree and asked the agent and manager on duty if there were any other options. They mentioned an AT&T service center about a half an hour away.
The store wrote me a referral to the service center and told me they could replace the phone on the spot. So off I went. A half an hour car drive and a wait in line and I was informed by the service center staff that they do not stock the Captivate and it would have to be returned to a warranty center. I said, do it. They said, no, I have to return it and that meant -- you guessed it -- agreeing to the same terms. Needless to say I was a bit frustrated at this point. So a half an hour drive home to cool off... or not.
The following day I started searching and found stories of people getting warranty service through Samsung. Wondering what their warranty terms are, I phoned Samsung's number. After repeating the phone death story, they said it was a warranty issue and emailed me a shipping label to send it back. Happy that things were looking up, I boxed it up and sent it off.
Fast forward a week and I just received a notification from Samsung that the phone is being returned, unrepaired. Here is the verbage used:
"Original Problem:
Technical Inquiry
Power
No Power Up
Problem found:
CORROSION, LIQUID DAMAGE
ABUSE / CORROSION
Solution:
BER
BER (Beyond economical Repair) Comments:
An attempt was made to repair your phone which was liquid damaged. This repair was unsuccessful due to excessive corrosion, or the failure of related components. The factory warranty has been voided."
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I get on the phone with Samsung, inform them the phone has never been wet, that both I and the AT&T folks looked at it and the water indicators showed no exposure. They explained that their service personnel do "a very thorough inspection" and that is their determination. Done. Discussion ensued, but there was absolutely no willingness on their part to take another look at the phone, explain further, or otherwise help.
So I'm out $200 plus a two-year contract or ETF fee with AT&T on a three month old phone. My daughter is quite meticulous with this sort of thing and trustworthy and tells me the phone has not been wet. I believe her. The liquid indicators agree. The phone died during an update that I now see is notorious for bricking phones. Both AT&T and Samsung would rather push it off on a customer than stand behind their product. I've been a Cingular/AT&T customer for over ten years, but apparently that's irrelevant.
So that's my story. Consider yourself warned.
BTW, if anyone figures out how to "unbrick" a phone in this state (won't turn on at all after failed update) I'd love to hear about it as the phone is physically fine.
Should have dealt with wal-mart, I got my captivate from wal-mart and for whatever reason my usb port stated that it was connected all the time. I could not boot my phone without physically plugging in and waiting for the battery charge indicator to come on. If I tried to get into recovery mode it would automatically boot into download mode so this told me that there was an actual physical problem with my usb port somewhere somehow. Took it to wal-mart explained to them what was going on they replaced it on the spot no questions.
That's odd. Happened to me too and att store exchanged it right away. Did you purchase it from att or a retailer? If from att, call cs, they will replace it. If you didn't buy from att, you are stuck with samsung...
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You get 1-year warranty from AT&T, not Samsung. And the terms you mentioned are normal terms for warranty exchange. Typically, they mail you the replacement, a refurb, with mailing labels and instructions for you to mail back your old phone. Track the mail and make sure your phone arrived at AT&T facility and you're done. If the phone is lost in the mail or you failed to mail it back in time, you will be charged by that amount.
Nothing special. That's how warranty exchange works all the time. Many here has made exchanges couple times.
qwertyaas said:
That's odd. Happened to me too and att store exchanged it right away. Did you purchase it from att or a retailer? If from att, call cs, they will replace it. If you didn't buy from att, you are stuck with samsung...
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Yes. Purchased at AT&T retail store. Returned there with the problem. They would not replace it at the store. Their terms were that I had to agree to potential $459 charge with no recourse if they determined that it was not a warranty issue before they would issue an RMA. Spoke with CS on a telephone while in the store. The store employees had already checked the phone for damage and found none.
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You get 1-year warranty from AT&T, not Samsung. And the terms you mentioned are normal terms for warranty exchange. Typically, they mail you the replacement, a refurb, with mailing labels and instructions for you to mail back your old phone. Track the mail and make sure your phone arrived at AT&T facility and you're done. If the phone is lost in the mail or you failed to mail it back in time, you will be charged by that amount.
Nothing special. That's how warranty exchange works all the time. Many here has made exchanges couple times.
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I've never been asked to agree to the replacement price of a new item before they even looked at the inoperable one. A reasonable bench charge, sure, but that they will just charge me for a new one if they so decide with no further notice. I don't think so. And I was returning the phone first, there was to be no cross shipment. Those terms are why I turned to Samsung as the manufacturer and based on their warranty which you can find here: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/s...d_mdl_cd=SGH-I897ZKAATT&prd_mdl_name=SGH-I897
a golden rule to buying from ATT just so you will know. Always buy the 4.50 a month insurance they add it to your bill and you hardley even notice the difference...that way if there is an updat to the phone and you try it and it bricks you phone you can get it replaced for about 50.00 through there insurance dept.
stewart2568, Thanks for the suggestion. I don't think I'll be buying any more phones from AT&T, though.
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a golden rule to buying from ATT just so you will know. Always buy the 4.50 a month insurance they add it to your bill and you hardley even notice the difference...that way if there is an updat to the phone and you try it and it bricks you phone you can get it replaced for about 50.00 through there insurance dept.
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Actually the replacement fee with AT&T insurance on the Captivate is $ 125.00.
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I've never been asked to agree to the replacement price of a new item before they even looked at the inoperable one. A reasonable bench charge, sure, but that they will just charge me for a new one if they so decide with no further notice. I don't think so. And I was returning the phone first, there was to be no cross shipment. Those terms are why I turned to Samsung as the manufacturer and based on their warranty which you can find here: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/s...d_mdl_cd=SGH-I897ZKAATT&prd_mdl_name=SGH-I897
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It pains me to say it but AT&T warranty department is much better than Samsung warranty department. You're just simply mis-understood the terms. A lot of ppl here on the board get their replacement just I described above.There is no cross shipping. They ship to you first, then you mail your back. Of course you have to agree to certain payment in case you never mailed yours back. And they always insist on inspect the phone for water damage before finally grant you warranty. That's just normal practice of buziness. You certainly have the option to ask the phone back instead of pay the $500 charge if they deny your warranty.
So far I didn't see any evidence that AT&T denied your warranty. You're just in a panic mode. Dealing with inpetent Samsung support doesn't help much. FYI, the phone you bought is AT&T branded which means AT&T take care of all the support and services. You can talk to Samsung all you want, you will just get run around like already have.
This is like how Samsung wanted to charge me for their product failure. It was just a month after I got my Captivate and one of the volume rocker buttons got stuck. I called Samsung to have it fixed, and they said it was "physical" damage. The guy said he could transfer me so I could find out how much it would cost, but that he needed to take my credit card first... WHY would customer service take your credit card number BEFORE they told you the cost??
Anyways, it caused me to open the phone up myself just to fix the button, instead of Samsung having my credit card number before I knew what I'd be paying them.
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It pains me to say it but AT&T warranty department is much better than Samsung warranty department. You're just simply mis-understood the terms. A lot of ppl here on the board get their replacement just I described above.There is no cross shipping. They ship to you first, then you mail your back. Of course you have to agree to certain payment in case you never mailed yours back. And they always insist on inspect the phone for water damage before finally grant you warranty. That's just normal practice of buziness. You certainly have the option to ask the phone back instead of pay the $500 charge if they deny your warranty.
So far I didn't see any evidence that AT&T denied your warranty. You're just in a panic mode. Dealing with inpetent Samsung support doesn't help much. FYI, the phone you bought is AT&T branded which means AT&T take care of all the support and services. You can talk to Samsung all you want, you will just get run around like already have.
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I asked for clarification on the terms, explained them back as I understood them, and the phone representative confirmed that I had to agree to the charge if they determined it was not a warranty issue. I specifically asked about the option of them just returning the phone instead of charging me for a new one and two different individuals, one on the phone and one in the service center, told me that they could not modify the terms in that way. Interestingly, I asked the phone rep for a copy of the terms in writing, as I was dumbfounded by her reading of them, and she refused to provide me a copy saying she did not have the capability to do so. (huh?!)
I have to disagree about panic mode. I am irritated, but have basically written off my loss at this point. You are right that AT&T did not deny the warranty, as I wouldn't agree to the terms up front to even get to that point. The phone is clearly branded by both AT&T and Samsung. Samsung didn't give me much run around, just went through their process and gave me the response "The factory warranty has been voided." Nice. Once I get the phone back, I will be doing a tear down to see if I can find any evidence of water damage or corrosion. I know that the indicators showed none before the phone was shipped to Samsung and from my discussion with them apparently still didn't when they had it.
I really only posted here so that others could be made aware. If these sorts of problems are common, perhaps something can be done. I've asked both AT&T and Samsung reps for further recourse and have been offered none. So in my case, I'm at a dead end. I'm moving on, checking on my ETF and considering my options regarding a new phone or a new carrier.
Im really sorry to hear you were treated so unfairly. Im an AT&T rep for Radioshack, and I know a few tricks for anyone who has this problem or any other unjust hardware exchange problems.
First, like that other guy posted, shop at Sams Wal Mart or Radioshack for cheaper prices, no mail ins and painless exchange policies.
Second, if you still can't get an exchange, call customer service and chose option 4. (Cancel service) This ofcourse is a bluff. Tell them that they can help you or your family is going yo Verizon. This is how I got them to exchange my Tilt I bricked for 80$ instead of 450$.
Third, If you go to the right Radioshack, they will ship it, straight to Samsung free of charge. Most stores don't know how but all have the ability. Just tell them to ship under NARDA.
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Hopefully this is not a trend...
My daughter, who is away at school, received a notice on her phone a couple of weeks back that there was an updated available. She was a bit nervous about doing it so waited until she was home over the weekend a week and a half ago and asked me about it. I told her to go ahead and do it. She hit the button to install the update. It downloaded, displayed an error message and the phone turned off. It wouldn't turn back on. We searched a bit, tried all the known key combinations to reset it, but it was a brick.
So the next day I headed over to the AT&T store. They tried a few things and agreed that it was dead. They checked the phone over and stated there was no physical or water damage. They contacted the warranty center over the phone, arranged for the return and handed me the phone handset to agree to terms. Turns out the only way they would warranty the phone is if I sent them the phone and agreed, in advance, to pay $459 if they decided it was not a warranty issue. I asked for clarification, repeated what had happened, and they just kept saying that was the requirement. I mentioned that the store rep and manager had already checked the phone, that there was no physical or water damage, and tried to understand why I would still have to agree to these terms. I asked if they would just agree to send the phone back if there was any other problem. They just kept repeating the same thing, I had to agree to the $459 potential charge with no recourse. They kept stating that I "would probably not be charged." I would not agree and asked the agent and manager on duty if there were any other options. They mentioned an AT&T service center about a half an hour away.
The store wrote me a referral to the service center and told me they could replace the phone on the spot. So off I went. A half an hour car drive and a wait in line and I was informed by the service center staff that they do not stock the Captivate and it would have to be returned to a warranty center. I said, do it. They said, no, I have to return it and that meant -- you guessed it -- agreeing to the same terms. Needless to say I was a bit frustrated at this point. So a half an hour drive home to cool off... or not.
The following day I started searching and found stories of people getting warranty service through Samsung. Wondering what their warranty terms are, I phoned Samsung's number. After repeating the phone death story, they said it was a warranty issue and emailed me a shipping label to send it back. Happy that things were looking up, I boxed it up and sent it off.
Fast forward a week and I just received a notification from Samsung that the phone is being returned, unrepaired. Here is the verbage used:
I get on the phone with Samsung, inform them the phone has never been wet, that both I and the AT&T folks looked at it and the water indicators showed no exposure. They explained that their service personnel do "a very thorough inspection" and that is their determination. Done. Discussion ensued, but there was absolutely no willingness on their part to take another look at the phone, explain further, or otherwise help.
So I'm out $200 plus a two-year contract or ETF fee with AT&T on a three month old phone. My daughter is quite meticulous with this sort of thing and trustworthy and tells me the phone has not been wet. I believe her. The liquid indicators agree. The phone died during an update that I now see is notorious for bricking phones. Both AT&T and Samsung would rather push it off on a customer than stand behind their product. I've been a Cingular/AT&T customer for over ten years, but apparently that's irrelevant.
So that's my story. Consider yourself warned.
BTW, if anyone figures out how to "unbrick" a phone in this state (won't turn on at all after failed update) I'd love to hear about it as the phone is physically fine.
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Assuming that the phones hardware is is working condition you should first try to put the phone in download mode. To do this first hold down BOTH volume keys simtulaniously and plug in the usb coard to the charging jack on the phone while it is attached to a computer. If you see a yellow man holding a shovel with yellow writing saying download you can recover this device. If you get this far post here and we can show you how to reinstall the ROM.
Best of luck
Samsung was right... AT&T warranty terms still ridiculous
Samsung was right and has my sincere apology. I got the phone back from Samsung service and disassembled it. It looks like liquid got into the USB port. It appears to have been a very small amount, perhaps a single drop. There is some corrosion internally on the connector between the back of the port and the PCB. That is the only damage I see, but it would have been enough to short the connection. There was no indication of water elsewhere in the phone.
I am still dumbfounded by AT&T's warranty policy. I have spoken with two more individuals at AT&T about the policy and they stand firm. You must agree to a full charge replacement of the device before they will even determine if it is under warranty or not. If they determine it's under warranty, all is well. If not, you pay for a new device, whether you want one or not. :-(
Anyway, sorry Samsung. A few more details about what you found would have been nice, but you're still OK with me. I have nothing nice to say to you, AT&T.
Oh, and keep that little door over the port closed when you can... it could save your phone.
Still sounds fishy to me. You had a working phone before the update, so why is the cause of the failure water damage. Was your daughter doing the update outside in the rain?
I deal with AT&T all day, on a day to day basis. They are pain as many of you already know. You might want to try this, if you have a Facebook account, become a fan of their page and then post up your experience/situation for everyone to see. It might just put some heat on them. Hopefully, a competent Rep could help with a resolution. Just a suggestion.
I actually prefer AT&Ts warranty as opposed to using a manufacturer. At least they send you the replacement phone first so you are not out a phone for at least a week.
I remember sending my Xperia X1 into SE, it took 3 weeks and when I finally heard back from them they they informed me my phone had liquid damage. Similar story: they sent pictures of the corrosion back with my old phone and there was a tiny spec of rust.
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Still sounds fishy to me. You had a working phone before the update, so why is the cause of the failure water damage. Was your daughter doing the update outside in the rain?
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As odd as it sounds the voltage level could of fluctuated up high enough to cause the short and fry the port among other things.
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It appears to have been a very small amount, perhaps a single drop. There is some corrosion internally on the connector between the back of the port and the PCB. That is the only damage I see, but it would have been enough to short the connection. There was no indication of water elsewhere in the phone.
Oh, and keep that little door over the port closed when you can... it could save your phone.
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I had the same problem as another poster, with the toilet incident.. except the water wasn't so clean *cough*
Anyway, I have the same recommendation.
KEEP YOUR CHARGING PORT SHUT WHEN NOT IN USE!
I'm positive it would have saved my phone from water damage for the tenth of a second it took me to ninja snatch it from submersion. Same situation; none of the litmus papers (water damage indicators) were red.
The only additional advise i can give is to buy the third-party insurance that AT&T offers at some locations at the time of purchase (or know someone that will sign you up for it afterwards). It covers water damage it's $5.99/month and the deductible is $75 for smartphones.
Oh and don't bother with the Mobile Locate service AT&T offers..Theft Aware does that and way more, AND it's like $6 ONCE!
EDIT: yea i thought about that too. It seems kinda strange that it only went berserk during the update. Maybe a wire in the phone only gets used when doing something like an update and when it had voltage applied to it..it fried
Hi All
Had to return my Sensation to HTC for repair, due to the dreaded unresponsive screen issue. They have now had my phone for 9 working days, and the on-line tracking status has not changed from 'We are currently testing your phone.' (which I think basically means the phone is sitting on a shelf waiting for an engineer).
Rang nealy every day, get a different story each time. Originally was told up to 7 working days for repair, then 7- 10 and now up to 14 days! This is in spite of the fact the warranty specifically states 5 working days as the target.
Anyone else had to return their phone? How long did it take to get it back?
Have written a letter demanding repair or replacement, sent on Friday recorded delivery to head office.
when i had to return my HTC HD, on both occaisions it took 8 days in total from having the phone picked up to delivery of repaired device.
Prehaps they are awaiting stock of parts due to it being a new device, or they have yet to find your issue. Usually the status changes to "in repair" when they have diagnosed what the fault is.
Thanks, but they have not said anything about requiring or being short on parts.
9th working day now since device was returned to them.
There have been some dreadful stories recently about delays at the service centre:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/18/htc_failed_support/
They had a link on the HTC UK Facebook page about this, dunno if its still there
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its the 9th working day today since they have had my sensation too! Very annoying!
Have you contacted them? What do they say?
Mods DELETE!
Pathetic isn't it?
They can't talk to the repair centre to find out the status! And they can't talk to each other, they use some IM software to communicate with each other.
Had many promised call backs, only one materialised.
According to their own warranty statement, they should repair within 5 days:
http://service.europe.htc.com/terms.aspx
1. Estimated turnover period
We estimate that we will normally be able to complete orders and return the units to most mainland addresses in the UK within 5 working days from receipt of the unit. Where the repair requires parts to be specially ordered or delivery to remote areas of the UK, or to other countries, this may take longer. HTC EU will endeavour to complete all orders within 5 working days from clearance of payment or warranty authorisation.
im very annoyed. just fake promises. they were meant to be good. F*K knows what happened to them now, but they just pi$$ me off.
should never have sent my device to them. i feel like going to Huntingdon to the repair centre, marching in, and grabbing my phone and coming back out!
They said they cant do a replacement as the device can be repaired!
I've wrote a letter asking for repair or replacement within 3 working days, as a timely repair/replacement is our right under the Sales of Goods Act.
Thats nothing! I sent SGS2 back for repairs and it took 40 days! believe me I contacted them continuously after the promised 14 day turn around! When I finally got it back it was so badly scratched I sent it back again for new housing, that took 8 days. Including postage times over 54 days without the device! Mobicity was the seller, I dont recommend them!
My letter which they received today seems to have made a difference, as status has now changed to ' We are repairing your phone.'
Well count me in on the HTC warranty issues.
I am still wondering why I should by a Sensation instead of the SGS2.
Ok, sit down ..... my HD2 has been in repair since the end of March.
It has been returned 3 times since it was never working like it should and now last week Friday I got a refurbished one.
Now the refurbished ones keypad doesn't light up on one side which is really annoying, so I wonder what they will do now? Will they repair the refurbished one and keep me another month without it?
It's not only that but the communication and the handling of the procedure is pathetic. Everytime you get someone else on the line you get another story.
Also HTC says that the complete repair didn't take long because it were 3 seperate ones. According to me 3 months without a working phone is 3 months periode. And it is not that it is about a cracked or broken screen, so there is no debate about warranty or not.
This one is amusing to read but unfortunately the sad truth, I also posted my experience.
http://happyemergency.tumblr.com/post/6777171158/5-months-of-customer-service-hell-with-htc
What a great read, disappointing but very good.
What are your top tips if anyone else is stuck in this situation?
Jasand said:
What a great read, disappointing but very good.
What are your top tips if anyone else is stuck in this situation?
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Well lets say that I have had to deal with those situations on a professional level in my past role and infact I learned alot by doing this.
There is one webpage that you need to read and use in your advantage.
For us EU people you need to know your EU customer rights.
Not alot of people or even big companies know (or want to know) this!
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31999L0044:EN:NOT
You will find some interesting stuff in it like acceptable repair time etc etc.
This warranty stuff applies to all consumer goods, not even electronic stuff!
I write everything down, like name, date and time and what has been said.
If the thing is taking way to long you ask them to open up the online ticket
Like this http://contactus.europe.htc.com/wFrmMailLogin.aspx
They need to open it up for you. It will not work untill they change something in their system!
By having that you can leave a comment with date/time etc and there is no way that they can tell you stuff which isn't right because afterwards you can point them at this log.
Also point them to that EU law it might help.
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My letter which they received today seems to have made a difference, as status has now changed to ' We are repairing your phone.'
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Well after 13 working days of HTC having the Device and telling me we are currently testing your phone.
3 complaints filled in
2 Escalations
i get a call from the supervisor.
The repair Center have lost my device. MY BRAND NEW UNMARKED UNSCRATCHED Sensation. and they have no idea where it is. it was signed for by HTC engineer when UPS delivered it but from then they have no idea.
now they have no sensations in stock at the repair center. so i either wait but they dont know how long. or take an alternative phone, as sensation was top dog, all alternative phones will be lower spec. i asked for an EVO 3d but as it isnt released i cant have that.
but they do have to provide me with a brand new device.
lukesan said:
Well count me in on the HTC warranty issues.
I am still wondering why I should by a Sensation instead of the SGS2.
Ok, sit down ..... my HD2 has been in repair since the end of March.
It has been returned 3 times since it was never working like it should and now last week Friday I got a refurbished one.
Now the refurbished ones keypad doesn't light up on one side which is really annoying, so I wonder what they will do now? Will they repair the refurbished one and keep me another month without it?
It's not only that but the communication and the handling of the procedure is pathetic. Everytime you get someone else on the line you get another story.
Also HTC says that the complete repair didn't take long because it were 3 seperate ones. According to me 3 months without a working phone is 3 months periode. And it is not that it is about a cracked or broken screen, so there is no debate about warranty or not.
This one is amusing to read but unfortunately the sad truth, I also posted my experience.
http://happyemergency.tumblr.com/post/6777171158/5-months-of-customer-service-hell-with-htc
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That's a shame here in sweden if you send you phone back 3 times within 3 years for the same problem they will
Refund full price or give you a new phone, and if you have 4 different problems within that 3 years then the same money back or new phone
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That's a shame here in sweden if you send you phone back 3 times within 3 years for the same problem they will
Refund full price or give you a new phone, and if you have 4 different problems within that 3 years then the same money back or new phone
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Rang up the HTC Care Team today. Because they lost my Vodafone branded device. They have decided to send me a brand new unopened unbranded Sensation. which i would receive in 3 working days also
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=185326
a free Bluetooth headset as compensation.
well glad that should be sorted, and will update when i receive it
also i will get a letter confirming what happened and a fresh warranty from the date i receive my device
OP:
I sent my sensation back to HTC two weeks because of the screen issue, but mostly because of a faulty earphone jack.
Yesterday the phone came back, after 16 days and guess what?? They didn't fix the earphone jack!!!
So I rang them, they apologised and asked me to send my phone back, which I did this morning!!
WTF HTC!!!?? Get your s**t together!
For those who sent your phone to LG directly (Stellar Wireless) for a repair/replace, how long did it take them to get a phone back to you?
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For those who sent your phone to LG directly (Stellar Wireless) for a repair/replace, how long did it take them to get a phone back to you?
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It took me about a week for them to repair it once they received it. I sent from NY to Texas Priority US Mail on Monday. They received by Wednesday. They fixed it by the following Wednesday and i received it back by that Saturday three days later. They are pretty speedy.
One thing I would stress though is that you do not want a refurbished phone. I have read somewhere on the internet that if LG sends you a refurbished phone that you cannot update it to Gingerbread for some reason. I cannot confirm that this is true but that's what I've heard.
I am kind of pissed off at them my self. They did send my original phone back to me but they said if worse case they can not fix it, they will send a refurbished one. I told them F no. I paid full price with tax $600 and I expect either my phone or a brand new one if the repair can't be made. I would have purchased a refurb off ebay for half that. They claim that refurb is just as good. I say bullshyt. A refurb is someone else's probem that they finally fixed but couldn't fix at the time of that persons mail in. And besides, if a refurb was the same, then LG or the Tmobile store that I have originally purchased the phone from would have given me a brand new one on the spot. Suck it. Don't accept a refurb. They did not budge though. They said repair or refurb. Good Luck with LG Scum. They did fix the restarting issue, but when I got it back I have a GPS Lock on issue.
Thanks! I sent my phone by Priority Mail last Monday and they got it Wednesday, so I guess I'm looking at getting it back by next weekend.
I sent mine to them on a Thursday they got it that Friday (one state away). Just got it back today (Thursday. There turn around time seemed very quick to me. It has the latest version and baseband on it. It however is not the phone I sent them.
I sent mine off July 22 via FedEx and just got it back today. Oddly enough, the repair ticket enclosed with my phone said they replaced the touch screen and the reason for the repair was a faulty touch button. The actual reason was because the LG Tool erased my baseband after it said I had a successful update so I couldn't use the T-Mo network, only wireless.
Not sure where the faulty Touch button information came from, but I guess it's good I got a new touchscreen if something showed up during their "quality" check. I checked the IMEI and Serial Numbers, and they match my original box, so it's the same phone repaired, not a refurb swap.
It seems to be working ok so far, so I'll know for sure in a few days.
LG employee here- Refurb is kind of a misleading term. I deal directly with Stellar and providing them parts, and when they say refurb, it might as well be a new phone. I mean, they replace a lot of stuff and run it through a gang of tests. Do things slip through the cracks? Absolutely. But, in all honesty, by the time they get done with refurbishing a phone, it is just as good as a new phone. Now, if you go through some further removed 3rd party refurb centers, you will see issues, but Stellar is in the same building as us, so we keep a pretty tight watch over their work.
affenzeit said:
LG employee here- Refurb is kind of a misleading term. I deal directly with Stellar and providing them parts, and when they say refurb, it might as well be a new phone. I mean, they replace a lot of stuff and run it through a gang of tests. Do things slip through the cracks? Absolutely. But, in all honesty, by the time they get done with refurbishing a phone, it is just as good as a new phone. Now, if you go through some further removed 3rd party refurb centers, you will see issues, but Stellar is in the same building as us, so we keep a pretty tight watch over their work.
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I was fortunate enough to get mine fixed by the Stellar folks, and what great work they did. I thought I had a pretty decent phone before the fix, but now it is pure fantastic. So far no unexplained reboots or other oddities and I have really been putting it through its paces.
Please pass along my thanks to the "stellar" Stellar Wireless Technology techs.
octoplus is a nice solve tool for LG fault
Recently, i purchased an new Octoplus from china ,it is a nice experience, fast shipping and especially technical support, and i know they own a shop in amazon, as for the web, i should obey their's rule....
Ok so I have currently a g3 that is pretty bad with signals so looking to upgrade...I don't want to spend a lot for the g5 until it drops in price in a year or so...so I was thinking of buying a used g4...I'm leary about the bootloop issues I've been seeing a large amount of people getting and since ill be buying a used phone idk if that'll factor with warranty...anyways I found one I want to buy and I asked the guy what the first few numbers were in the serial number and he said it was 589...that seems a bit high but I know most of the affected units were between 505-509...so do you guys think ill be safe with this phone? I really don't want to spend a lot of money on a potential paper weight...thanks in advance...
Not sure how to read the numbers
My phone has been in the process of dying for the last month, despite my attempts to eliminate an app here and an app there. Saturday it just finally booted endlessly, and won't go any place beyond that.
I bought the phone at Best Buy on 9-3-15, so I guess it's one of the early production models, but I'm not sure of the numbering system. The box has a UPC code with a 6 at the left edge of the code, followed by 52810, then a small gap and the numbers 51648, and finally an 8 at the right edge of the bar code. I can't figure out whether my phone is a "652" or a "528." Maybe somebody can help out with this question.
Thanks, Enzo
Well, since I posted on May 14, the LG G4 quit on me, and nothing but endless boots and more and more heat.
I *****ed to LG, providing the IMEI and the purchase date, etc., and they gave me an RMA. I shipped the phone via FedEx, as directed by LG, at a cost of approximately $20, to the repair facility in Ft. Worth, Texas.
The phone arrived at the repair facility two days ago, Monday morning, and I just got an email indicating that it was shipped back to me today.
No indication of whether it was repaired, or rejected because I regularly dropped it in the toilet and/or spilled coffee all over it, but maybe I'll find out in the next few days. (Actually, I treated the phone very gently, and even used a very grippy silicone cover to ensure I never dropped the thing.)
Since I feared LG would probably need weeks/months/years to get it turned around, I bought a new Samsung Galaxy Alpha from B&H Camera ($250) and a wireless charging device, and a glass screen protector. So at least if the dreaded boot loop syndrome recurs on the LG, maybe something will still be available to permit me to address the world via telephone from my hermit's cave. Enzo.
Email Today From LG--My Phone Headed For Long Beach
I received an email this morning indicating that my phone will be delivered sometime Saturday, May 28.
The email said "Defect: Power--No power with cable"
"Repair Results: Swap board (Main/RF) Others"
Not sure what all this means, but I guess it means they replaced the motherboard, and I'm not sure what else they may have done or not done.
I'll post further on the repairs and etc. next week after I get the phone up & running.
I am quite pleasantly surprised how fast the phone was handled by LG, inasmuch as it arrived in Ft. Worth on Monday, and they tossed it back to FedEx yesterday. Enzo.
I have gaps mostly all over the edge as in the pics. Please zoom in to see them clearly. Is this normal? Manufacturing defect?
Just checked my S7... I don't have the same gaps as per your pictures. Mine sits completely level on all sides.
Would probably try and swap it for a new one if possible.
Does it cause any issues?
HuskQi said:
Just checked my S7... I don't have the same gaps as per your pictures. Mine sits completely level on all sides.
Would probably try and swap it for a new one if possible.
Does it cause any issues?
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As I said this is already my 3rd replacement unit. The last two times I went for replacement they said they can't accept this as issue enough to give me a replacement. Yet somehow they gave me after lot of talk. Samsung service is so bad
Apologies I didn't see anywhere in your post where you said it was your third replacement.
Potentially ask for one last return and see if they can get one from a different batch. I had reboot issues with my S7, went through 2 more with same issue, and eventually they got one sent down from a different city, different batch and it has been flawless.
Was lucky the person I dealt with had the patience to go through the whole ordeal for me.
If it doesn't cause any performance issues, then you could always just cover it up with a case as a last resort but it doesn't look TOO bad from the pictures.
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As I said this is already my 3rd replacement unit. The last two times I went for replacement they said they can't accept this as issue enough to give me a replacement. Yet somehow they gave me after lot of talk. Samsung service is so bad
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i totally agree with u...Samsung service is the worst...my xperiance was that they had my phone for 10 days and did nothing to my phone...i have grey lines on my display although they are not visible in every situation but when they are visible its a little bit anoying...so i sad to them to change the screen and they sad yes they will and at the end i got my phone intact with no replacement or whatsoever...when i had similar problem with Sony xperia the storry is diferent they replaced the screen in one week and its flawles now(my mom is using it)...so yea in my situation Samsung service is the worst so far!!
I've been lucky with my experiences although there quality control is meh. I also had reboot issues with my S6. The S6 was purchased from an official retailer which took no responsibility but Samsung told me to send it directly to them. Had it back within 2 weeks with a brand new charging board and motherboard which solved the reboot issue. Even had one of their reps call me to make sure the problem was fixed which was astonishing.
Then as per my above post, with my S7 rebooting (purchased from Samsung store this time), they went through the trouble of getting me brand new handsets each time until eventually I got one that worked.
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i totally agree with u...Samsung service is the worst...my xperiance was that they had my phone for 10 days and did nothing to my phone...i have grey lines on my display although they are not visible in every situation but when they are visible its a little bit anoying...so i sad to them to change the screen and they sad yes they will and at the end i got my phone intact with no replacement or whatsoever...when i had similar problem with Sony xperia the storry is diferent they replaced the screen in one week and its flawles now(my mom is using it)...so yea in my situation Samsung service is the worst so far!!
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Do you mean you got phone with same problem again after replacement also?
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Apologies I didn't see anywhere in your post where you said it was your third replacement.
Potentially ask for one last return and see if they can get one from a different batch. I had reboot issues with my S7, went through 2 more with same issue, and eventually they got one sent down from a different city, different batch and it has been flawless.
Was lucky the person I dealt with had the patience to go through the whole ordeal for me.
If it doesn't cause any performance issues, then you could always just cover it up with a case as a last resort but it doesn't look TOO bad from the pictures.
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Oops somehow I missed to include that it's my 3rd replacement in OP. Sorry. So for the reboot issue you faced after the replacement period, you had to go to Samsung service center and got one from another batch? I want to know is it possible to tell them to get me one from another batch considering the number of times I replaced.
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Oops somehow I missed to include that it's my 3rd replacement in OP. Sorry. So for the reboot issue you faced after the replacement period, you had to go to Samsung service center and got one from another batch? I want to know is it possible to tell them to get me one from another batch considering the number of times I replaced.
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I pointed out to them that my original and replacements had all been from the same batch and all faulty and asked for one that was carrier branded cause I was desperate to get a working phone. By luck, they had run out of silver stock from all carriers at this specific branch. First he offered me a different colour, but then proceeded to call the other branches. The only silver available in the country was carrier branded but since there is virtually no difference between the carrier models in my country, I told them I'll take it. They sent it down for me, 2 days later I had it in my hands and I'm still using it now.
I think there is no harm in asking whether you could potentially get one sent down from another store/batch but don't demand one either. Just be careful not to come off as rude. I have some friends who work at phone stores and even though they can transfer stock from other stores, they won't put in the effort for rudely demanding customers (bearing in mine most of them haven't had 3 replacements like you).
Good luck
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I pointed out to them that my original and replacements had all been from the same batch and all faulty and asked for one that was carrier branded cause I was desperate to get a working phone. By luck, they had run out of silver stock from all carriers at this specific branch. First he offered me a different colour, but then proceeded to call the other branches. The only silver available in the country was carrier branded but since there is virtually no difference between the carrier models in my country, I told them I'll take it. They sent it down for me, 2 days later I had it in my hands and I'm still using it now.
I think there is no harm in asking whether you could potentially get one sent down from another store/batch but don't demand one either. Just be careful not to come off as rude. I have some friends who work at phone stores and even though they can transfer stock from other stores, they won't put in the effort for rudely demanding customers (bearing in mine most of them haven't had 3 replacements like you).
Good luck
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How you were able to find the batch of your devices?