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There are so many roms around there an one thing I cannot find is at a fundamental level,(user level) what do we gain out of using the hero rom rather than the regular g1 OS?
Is there a killer app that only works on hero? is the hero interface, better? majorly different? would like to know, please?
Could you really not find it, or did you not look? This isn't even remotely close to being in the correct section either..
To sum it up however, HTC's "Sense UI" that is implemented on HERO is essentially a home replacement (like openhome, ahome, etc...). It features many graphical enhancements as well as widgets that are not available on the stock android builds.
This link will tell you everything you need to know:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/epic fail/scooters61/EpicFail.jpg
Its mostly cosmetic. Everything in HERO looks better than standard ota 1.5 android. I weighed the options of running HERO ROM or Cyanogen and HERO came out on top. I just love the way HERO looks. I love it so much, that I gave up use of my blue tooth headset.
.....the only thing I can suggest is to do some research on a "proper" installation of a HERO ROM and experience it for yourself.
toxtrepla:
to the first point, yes I looked, there is no site, thread that just has that simple explanation. I'm sure it's there, it's just buried.
Point 2. yeah, your right. my thinking was this is a forum full of hero and non-hero roms, so it would be good here, but really, I could have put it elsewhere. Thank you very much for the info.
miketaylor00:
Thanks for the pic.
SG_Shadow:
Thanks for the info. I will have to check it out. as soon as I get time to clean out my sdcard.
thanks all again.
If it were only the eye candy.... What sets Hero apart is the way it integrates your social network in one place. Right now there's support for Twitter, Facebook, Flickr, Plurk, Picassa, Google, and your Exchange contacts. All of those can be merged, so say, if your friend Sally from work ([email protected]) has a twitter and facebook account, you can exchange tweets quickly and the phone will notify you they're from Sally. Also, you're out and trying to decide which pair of shoes you should get for Saturday night's ball, and you can't decide, you snap a quick picture, uploaded to your facebook (right from the camera app) and then tweet Sally to help you choose, be quick, though, your wife's almost back
@rkimbal45
What the first guy meant was you didn't look to see they have a Q&A section for what you asked, which was a question... From my point of view you have no investigative skills which led you to asking this question and not being able to find the proper place to ask it.... but hey who really post their questions in the Q&A now-a-dayz?
PS. Q&A=Questions and Answers
miketaylor00 said:
This link will tell you everything you need to know:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/epic fail/scooters61/EpicFail.jpg
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He r winnAR!
Slightly popular way of findin answers
rkimbal45 said:
There are so many roms around there an one thing I cannot find is at a fundamental level,(user level) what do we gain out of using the hero rom rather than the regular g1 OS?
Is there a killer app that only works on hero? is the hero interface, better? majorly different? would like to know, please?
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Theres an obscure little search engine website that only a few people use so i can see how you may not of searched for your answer there yet, its called !!!!!!! GOOGLE !!!!!!!.............
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HARDWARE-G1
RADIO-HMM YEAH I HAVE
SPL-OF COURSE
ROM- 4 SD CARDS THAT I SWAP EVERY FEW HOURS !!
POWER SOURCE- SEEM TO CHARGE ALL DAY LONG !
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Full Function 2.1 AOSP "like" rom using DarchLegendv4.1_AOSP STYLE!!!!!!!!!ENJOY
For those of you out there that want aosp+cam I read alot of threads here and i know im not the only one that wanted this....Heres how I did it:
NOTE:This method WILL NOT WORK with launcher2. It CRASHES everything!!!
1)Wipe
2)Flash DarchLegendv4.1
3)Reboot
4)DL Helix (or use Home)
5)Disable Sense default
6)Choose Helix or Home(sense will NOT work)
7)Push LiveWallPaperPicker.apk to system apps
8)Push LiveWallPaper.apk to system apps
9)ADB Reboot Recovery
10)Flash the following update zip for AOSP bar(plus you get a sweet pearl rosie) http://www.4shared.com/get/243892390/d77fb176/DarchLegendV4_WhiteRosieTaskba.html
11)Optional#1):To get nexus mod. dl this file:http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=294834&d=1268802202...next open the zip and follow the directions below (disregard the launcher2 file)
adb remount
adb push <location of libRS.so> /system/lib
adb push <location of librs_jni.so> /system/lib
adb reboot
12)Optional#2): To get starfield,settings/150stars or less & it will start working!
FINALLY ENJOY YOUR NEW AOSP-like2.1, I Know I AM. Darch is awesome
thanks for the guide, but this is mainly just like a AOSP skin, it just *looks* like AOSP, the htc framework is still there with all their funky apps and backround services right?
That's the part I like the best, the general cleanliness of AOSP. Thanks though, I'll try it out.
Not just a skin
Actually, darch made this rom too. And THIS legend version i really like because of all the possibilities, i'm making my own version as we speak to include all of this stuff. But no, its not just a skin. I wouldnt go thru the effort of typing long instructions like that for just a skin. Give it a try, trust me. Youll thank me later
This is not "full function AOSP."
This is great, and will hold me over until a true AOSP 2.1 is developed. Thanks for the info.
Let Me Know AFTER You Try It.....
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This is not "full function AOSP."
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AOSP-like. And your opinion does not become valid until you try it yourself. If you dont want to try it and it doesnt appeal to you then dont bother to post. I put in alot of effort to get this to work for the ppl that DO want this. Ive seen too many of your posts and their negative nature. Id rather you not post in my threads please. Im putting effort forth to help others like myself get the most out of their devices, not to dampen their spirits or argue like a child. Im sure even you can appreciate my goal. Thank you.
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josue85 said:
This is great, and will hold me over until a true AOSP 2.1 is developed. Thanks for the info.
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Glad you liked it. Im waiting for that AOSP 2.1 as well. Cant wait!!.But this is pretty cool for now.....Thanks
Actually...
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AOSP-like. And your opinion does not become valid until you try it yourself. If you dont want to try it and it doesnt appeal to you then dont bother to post. I put in alot of effort to get this to work for the ppl that DO want this. Ive seen too many of your posts and their negative nature. Id rather you not post in my threads please. Im putting effort forth to help others like myself get the most out of their devices, not to dampen their spirits or argue like a child. Im sure even you can appreciate my goal. Thank you.
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By your own standards, my opinion is valid since I have tried this as is evidenced by this picture I posted 2 days ago here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5896331&postcount=488 and again yesterday after the Nexus news herehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5918537&postcount=517. My only issue is that this is indeed a skin. Well, a skinned home replacement app. The "AOSP" taskbar is just modded HTC framework, and Helix is just as app. Everything else runs on HTC software, and is no way AOSP. Clearly you can see that I enjoy this look by the referenced links, but I think you should be more responsible with your labeling and call it what it is. Some people who dont understand the difference between a HTC ROM and an AOSP will be misled into thinking this is something its clearly not. I just think it should be labeled what it actually is in the thread description, and not bannered as something that does not exist.
EDIT- Also, there is no need to push the lib files to DarchLegend. Theyre already in the ROM when you download it.
Where can one find LiveWallPaper.apk and LiveWallPaperPicker.apk?
agree
I would have tried this had I not read this information
thanks
not AOSP
Simply put, this is not AOSP. AOSP has a different codebase which does not contain the HTC frameworks. Even without Rosie running, the frameworks will take up memory. That said, I have been working on a rom (which recently got deleted ). This rom will be the 2.1 Sense rom but without anything Sense related. I am going to try to remove the HTC frameworks but I can't guarantee that. At the very least it will look and act like AOSP 2.1. The difference between that one and this one is that everything Sense related will be removed including Rosie, widgets and the Sense services such as social network provider, etc. They all eat up memory which slows down the phone.
MagnusRagnarok said:
Actually, darch made this rom too. And THIS legend version i really like because of all the possibilities, i'm making my own version as we speak to include all of this stuff. But no, its not just a skin. I wouldnt go thru the effort of typing long instructions like that for just a skin. Give it a try, trust me. Youll thank me later
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no I completely understand what this is and does, I'm not arguing that it's like a skin for a home replacement. My argument is that all the background stuff is still there, all the htc framework for the radio to work, settings, all that crap.
Darch doesn't replace all the "guts" of the htc build to that of the AOSP, he just ports someone's system dump to another phone. I don't do this for a living so I can't go into it any more than that, and I only say things I'm fairly certain are true, so if I go any deeper I'd probably be talking out my butt.
I'm glad to see a new face in the lines of development and hope to try out your custom build when you release it. You sound a little confrontational right now so I'm just going to leave it at that. cheers.
NM I found your other post with the live wallpaper files
/showthread.php?t=647699
SARS
chuckhriczko said:
snip... I have been working on a rom (which recently got deleted ). This rom will be the 2.1 Sense rom but without anything Sense related. I am going to try to remove the HTC frameworks but I can't guarantee that. At the very least it will look and act like AOSP 2.1. The difference between that one and this one is that everything Sense related will be removed including Rosie, widgets and the Sense services such as social network provider, etc. They all eat up memory which slows down the phone.
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This is something I've been waiting on since the first custom rom came out, someone who found a way to remove senceUI, roseie, and all the htc crap. Very much looking forward to this sir.
MagnusRagnarok said:
AOSP-like. And your opinion does not become valid until you try it yourself.
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I have no opinion on it. Merely stating a fact.
I'm sure it's a very nice skin/whatever, and that you've put a lot of work into it and that some people want it and like it. I am simply suggesting that you don't call it "full function 2.1 AOSP" because it is absolutely not. IMO that's an insult to the Open Source Project, and it is highly misleading to people who are not as well informed about it as others.
yea id be pretty salty if i went to the honda dealership because i needed a hybrid to save on gas and when i got home and looked under the hood of my brand new hybrid only to find a carburated v8 that gets 6 miles to the gallon.. IMO thats what this is like the theme is fine and all that but its not a aosp rom
Thanks for the positivity...
jonnythan said:
I have no opinion on it. Merely stating a fact.
I'm sure it's a very nice skin/whatever, and that you've put a lot of work into it and that some people want it and like it. I am simply suggesting that you don't call it "full function 2.1 AOSP" because it is absolutely not. IMO that's an insult to the Open Source Project, and it is highly misleading to people who are not as well informed about it as others.
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Thanks for the constructive criticism,i really appreciate it. I didnt see this coming. Also; i should not have assumed that because i actually put the rom i was using in the thread title everyone would KNOW it was not android open source project framework. I was trying to create a workaround for anybody that wanted AOSP "feel" i guess. The best way to describe it is not what i was trying to do. I was trying to appeal to the ppl that liked the Darchdroid aosp2.1 as much as i did. Except here you get cam and camcorder. THIS IS NOT AOSP FRAMEWORK ITS HTC. But then again everyone upset about this already knows that. Trying to help the community, not confuse the less knowledgable
SORRY ALL
Apologies to all Sorry if i upset anyone with this thread. That was not my intent. I have been here a while and i thought my thread title would have eliminated all of this. aosp style. I have not figured out how to mix aosp with legend framework. Thus my title. I thought everyone here knew what this was by reading the title. I am sorry if i mislead anyone, and you were disappointed by what you read. I will be even more specific with my titling in the future to avoid issues like this. I dont need to be scolded for thinking this was AOSP, because i didnt. IN CASE YOU WERE WONDERING, THIS IS NOT REALLY AOSP FRAMEWORK. Sorry for the disappointment and any confusion i caused. My goal here is to contribute to the community that i learn so much from, when i come up with something new.
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aauussttiinn88 said:
yea id be pretty salty if i went to the honda dealership because i needed a hybrid to save on gas and when i got home and looked under the hood of my brand new hybrid only to find a carburated v8 that gets 6 miles to the gallon.. IMO thats what this is like the theme is fine and all that but its not a aosp rom
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Good point with the cars and all. One big difference though....roms are free.Also,anything you do can be undone. Ive dl'd roms that didnt even boot,
so how mad could you be? I wasnt aware that everyone wanted like aosp on the inside, i dont have that yet. Thats just the outside for now. Took a little less than a day. I am butchering 2 of the new roms i like best. I hear alot of ppl love sense and alot of ppl love aosp. I was trying to appeal to both crowds in a superficial way of sorts. I am hard @ work trying to cook what is wanted @ this point now that i hear it. Thanks
MagnusRagnarok said:
AOSP-like. And your opinion does not become valid until you try it yourself. If you dont want to try it and it doesnt appeal to you then dont bother to post. I put in alot of effort to get this to work for the ppl that DO want this. Ive seen too many of your posts and their negative nature. Id rather you not post in my threads please. Im putting effort forth to help others like myself get the most out of their devices, not to dampen their spirits or argue like a child. Im sure even you can appreciate my goal. Thank you.
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What effort have you put in? It is not like it is difficult. I have been doing this sense stock 1.5. All your instructions are from already existing threads. People know you disable Sense and use Home. People also know that you can install the Nexus launcher.
Overall another useless thread with regurgitated information.
Hey all,
I have been hunting for a dialer to replace HTC's attempt. Although there are some great attempts here in the forums they didnt give me what i wanted, which was a full size calling image of the caller (480x800) and a much cleaner dialer in general.
I did how ever stumble across Iconsoft dialer for WM 5 and 6 which does give these and alot more. The short cuts are also very attractive but I am trying to figure out how to alter the rigistry to use the Iconsoft app for contacts as default, so if anyone knows please let me know.
The app isnt free but is worth every penny in my eye as makes my phone just that bit different. this can be downladed as a 15day trail also. There are some other themes for the dialer on the site.
I have been using for a few days now and havent had any trouble with it or speed problems its is pretty solid. Hope this helps some people out with finding a new dialer.
Please feel free to post any other dailers you come across, but keep it to dialers only!
See Tags for webpage URL
P.s Many thanks to all the DEV's for there great work here on XDA. Our phones would be very boring with out you!
Phone Extension Images
Here are the images i figured it out, didnt see the attachments thingy!
Looks like another iTurd knock-off...
Everyone to there own........
But please dont write pointless comments about stuff you have never tried!
Actually I have tried this(an older version) and I felt the same way then as I do now.
Pointless post or not, look at it. If I wanted an iPhone, I would have bought one.
BUT..... You're right. To each their own.
dharvey4651 said:
Actually I have tried this(an older version) and I felt the same way then as I do now.
Pointless post or not, look at it. If I wanted an iPhone, I would have bought one.
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Ah you see.... you tried the older version! this is the NEW one!
And lots of people like the iphone look anyway, silly to not have something you like just because it "looks like an iphone" screen
So I've been using iPhone for quite a while and recently got this Vibrant from a family member who didn't need it anymore. I've got to say, I'm really enjoying it.
I always played around theming my iPhone and using the Cydia tweaks and thought I knew what I was doing for the most part. So after getting this phone, I figured I would install some custom roms until I found something I want to stick with.
The thing is, there are tons of them, and since it's a kind of old phone I'd like some advice. Maybe to give me an idea of a few great roms.
I started by reading a lot on the web, and downgrading from Froyo to Eclair. Then I installed the Asgard JVP rom. I like it, but it appears to be abandoned. I live in an area with horrible service so roms with Wifi calling would be nice.
Definitely getting an idea of good current roms would be a nice start!
Thanks in advance, I understand I'm and Android noob, feel free to poke fun at me :-D
Just check the appropriate forum here. There should be one dedicated to your device.
I'm probably not the only person here who would like a custom made Samsung theme. I really want to make my own and share it with people, themes based around video games. Halo and Undertale, to name a few. But Samsung, as dumb they are, refuses to let you develop themes unless you upload a portfolio of prior theme work. Now, I've never done that, but really now. How come we have to prove we want to make good themes when that's what we are trying to do? Does anyone know if there is a way around this roadblock?
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I'm probably not the only person here who would like a custom made Samsung theme. I really want to make my own and share it with people, themes based around video games. Halo and Undertale, to name a few. But Samsung, as dumb they are, refuses to let you develop themes unless you upload a portfolio of prior theme work. Now, I've never done that, but really now. How come we have to prove we want to make good themes when that's what we are trying to do? Does anyone know if there is a way around this roadblock?
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Lets try to gather team of themers and other enthusiasts and try to do something.
I worked on a Sony devices, few years ago and I should check my older themes to remember few things.
If I may suggest or ask - could you, or anyone else, post all infos we have and all problems we should work on and I'll be glad to help on a project.
Don't know what's the problem but I can guess - you, probably, have signing problems, right?
On Sony devices we hade similar problems so we did simplest think we could find - we took official theme from store, decompiled it and do reverse engeniring,
It's easy to add your own assets then and edit few xml files.
As I said, I'm not sure which problems are here on Sammy devices and I really don't have time to Google all that out.
I'll built Java environment today on my main PC, install compilers and notepad++ so I could help if someone wants to try.
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I'm a noob.
I'm actually a complete and utter noob at this. I'm a 14 year old who had come up with the idea of making some themes just yesterday. So I don't know the first thing about developing themes for anything. But if you could explain stuff or point me to someone who can teach me about everything, that would be great.
By the way, do you know if there are any other ways to root a Note 5 without using Odin? I've got the international unlocked version (SM-N920C), single SIM, and I don't want to have to flash the stock ROM back on when I need to get it serviced (prove I have warranty).
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KSword007 said:
I'm actually a complete and utter noob at this. I'm a 14 year old who had come up with the idea of making some themes just yesterday. So I don't know the first thing about developing themes for anything. But if you could explain stuff or point me to someone who can teach me about everything, that would be great.
By the way, do you know if there are any other ways to root a Note 5 without using Odin? I've got the international unlocked version (SM-N920C), single SIM, and I don't want to have to flash the stock ROM back on when I need to get it serviced (prove I have warranty).
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I'm quite sure you can't root 5+ Android using Kingo Root or similar not-so-friendly app.
The easiest way that I know of is chainsfire way.
One Tar, one Odin flash and that's it.
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Hi All.
So here is the long and short side of it.
"SAMSUNG IS DUMB" They have made a theme development service in witch user can go and make their own theme, they then use this as advertisement to the public. Then once users have their devices they want to theme them and what do you know. Samsung then wants you to sign up for development once done they then refuse your application to the theme store for no reason what so ever.
I have seen a few very good themes around here for the note 5, much better then the useless girly/gay themes on the theme store and those users have been denied over and over.
So no, samsung does not give a rats ass if you are a good themer or not this is basically company personnel only that can them.
What we need is a user who by the magic of all things magical have been excepted by samsung to share his user credentials or profile so we can log into the theme service and use it our selves.
How does that sound?
Or someone to crack the software if they can get their hands on it (sadeempc!). There is samsung theme software available but its older versions. Possibly make some on it and use it as past work.
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Or someone to crack the software if they can get their hands on it (sadeempc!). There is samsung theme software available but its older versions.
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I have that software on my PC, but it's for developing for the possibly discontinued BADA OS. Now, I am not too keen on having someone crack software, bu the idea of a public theme dev account sounds great. Maybe some people should start making accounts and putting them out for us to use.
KSword007 said:
I have that software on my PC, but it's for developing for the possibly discontinued BADA OS. Now, I am not too keen on having someone crack software, bu the idea of a public theme dev account sounds great. Maybe some people should start making accounts and putting them out for us to use.
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I am not one thats for cracking others work and time either, but when its impossible to get whether its priced with the same idea gas is priced or literally impossible due to whatever youd call it that samsung is pulling. What really is that, it really just hit me like, why are they being snobby little Bs with this theme software. Does it automatically go straight on the theme store when it is made? Let people make their own themes instead of being limited to the mostly awkward chinese or whatever they are themes. Everything is material or walk on Mars or LIVE with weird sayings and dudes with strange sporatic hair on their legs. We have this software to make themes that can only make us money and you none unless we approve it for store use. But you have to apply to get it, oh and submit some past theme creations (hehe). Just like those one kids everybody knows at sometime that nobody likes. Ud think theyd hand that for free and some wizard of themes would come from the midst and samsung could only bank. But nope. Like paying to feed the animals at the zoo or camels at a pumpkin patch. Dont people normally get paid to feed the animals. All @$$ backwards these days.
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After brainstorming for a few minutes I have a solid conclusion. Given samsungs history of effort(lack) in previous apps, programs, etc. (Samsung nation, plus, forget the others*pointmade*, it has GOT to be because they do not have the people, the interest or simply care enough to go through that many theme submissions. Im sure tons would be pestering for a approval replys etc. I think they are already slacking with the 5 theme makers they have now as im pretty sure i seen a weed leaf on a theme the other day, its the swag one plus all of the same repetitive weird ones. Weed aint bad in some states at least (weird) but just sayin, i dont see any bud light ones or nething sweet like that. Its apparent that theme making is not coming from the US. Im almost positive on the application it doesnt even have the US listed on country list for areas of interest to sell or something like that. Which makes sense when u look at the options available
This sums up both what you and I are thinking in one gigantic paragraph. I did not even know Samsung was incompetent.
On a side note (get it?), can themes be shipped with live wallpapers as default, or will users have to install them separately from the Play store?
It would be nice to see some wallpapers coupled with some badass "living" themes.