I'm very confused about this topic, and have searched and read a lot, and am still not sure I understand. I have a rooted Thunderbolt, with S-OFF, firmware: 1.12.605.6, baseband: 1.16.00.0223r.
If I install an official update RUU from Verizon.. will it simply unroot my phone and provide me the latest update? or will it actually brick the phone?
If it will brick the phone, is there a way around this? Un-rooting, updating, re-rooting?
I'm experiencing some data connectivity issues and thinking an update may help me. Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks!
Do not install a full RUU. There are radio leaks in the development forum, use one of those.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160346
1 Make Sure you rename it PG05IMG.zip and put it in the root of your SD Card
2 Flash it like you would through HBOOT (Power OFF Tbolt and power on while holding Volume)
blueis300 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160346
1 Make Sure you rename it PG05IMG.zip and put it in the root of your SD Card
2 Flash it like you would through HBOOT (Power OFF Tbolt and power on while holding Volume)
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This notes it's for MR2 based ROM's only. I'm using the original Pre-OTA firmware from Verizon, so my understanding is that I can't use this.
Regardless, I just flashed using the new deodexed, rooted, radio and rom from the development forum and it worked great. Thanks for the responses.
HELP!
rockon83 said:
This notes it's for MR2 based ROM's only. I'm using the original Pre-OTA firmware from Verizon, so my understanding is that I can't use this.
Regardless, I just flashed using the new deodexed, rooted, radio and rom from the development forum and it worked great. Thanks for the responses.
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So I also have the same setup, and pretty n00bish, the TB is my 1st Android based phone, and I flashed it on the 2nd day, and have the same exact settings you had. Virizon is trying to shove a firmware update down my throat and I keep declining.
Can you please point me to the instructions you followed so I can also do the same thing.... THANKS!!!
UPDATE: I followed these instructions: forums.androidcentral.com/thunderbolt-rooting-roms-hacks/77350-guide-how-backup-restore-install-roms-thunderbolt.html
Good ROM to try
Try out the Eaton ROM 1.5.3 with the MR2.5 radio...if you search Eaton ROM 1.5.3 on Google it will take you to the correct forum and they have easy instructions to follow, you shouldnt have any issues and this ROM is flawless
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So most of the guides here to flash Desire ROMs, or use cooked ROMs didn't appeal to me, and I don't think that a one-click root in the sense of a new exploit and leaving the rest of your phone intact will exist soon.
All I really wanted was S-OFF and Root.
Going through all the different packages others had released I did this with my new phone:
Created Gold Card
downgraded radio
s-off, sim-unlock, etc
flash back stock att rom with RUU tool (Guess I can extract it and flash via SDCARD)
This leaves you at a point that I believe is back to stock with the only difference being S-OFF is on.
Then you can:
Remove Bloat (Rooting Not required, use psneuter)
Root if you want w/(no clockwork)
Install Clockwork
etc.
Is there any interest in this before I write something up?
Sorry if I missed this already and this thread can be delete if it has been covered
Thanks!
Both the hack kit and bubbys GUI will do this for you. Please check in one of those threads. Thanks.
Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.
Bubbys doesnt, it flashes a cooked rom I thought?
Cooked as in rooted AT&T stock. Either way, you can flash a rooted stock easy enough after you root. Try those threads. You'll get help. No need to start a new one. Good luck.
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Thanks, I am already all set and rooted, not asking for help, just wanted to know if anyone else was interested in S-off and NOT rooting This leaves you in the position to easily root, add clockwork etc.
But yeah, mods go ahead and delete this thread, sorry!
real4g said:
Thanks, I am already all set and rooted, not asking for help, just wanted to know if anyone else was interested in S-off and NOT rooting
But yeah, mods go ahead and delete this thread, sorry!
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If you want s-off and "not" be rooted just flash back using the ruu. The ruu will remove root but radio security will remain off.
Ohhh...you meant this to be a reference. Gotcha
lrs421 said:
If you want s-off and "not" be rooted just flash back using the ruu. The ruu will remove root but radio security will remain off.
Ohhh...you meant this to be a reference. Gotcha
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Yep, yeah I already wrote a something, so after you have a gold card, all you have to do is run this script I wrote and it will wipe your phone and s-off it with stock rom all via adb. Then there is a second script to root the phone. and another to remove bloat.
The only manual interaction is creating a gold card and making sure debug mode is enabled.
I prefer to customize my own stock roms, not that I don't appreciate others work!
Well...This does sound interesting.
Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.
real4g said:
So most of the guides here to flash Desire ROMs, or use cooked ROMs didn't appeal to me, and I don't think that a one-click root in the sense of a new exploit and leaving the rest of your phone intact will exist soon.
All I really wanted was S-OFF and Root.
Going through all the different packages others had released I did this with my new phone:
Created Gold Card
downgraded radio
s-off, sim-unlock, etc
flash back stock att rom with RUU tool (Guess I can extract it and flash via SDCARD)
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Really? You downgraded the radio without flashing a downgrade DHD ROM?
My BS detector is going off, especially since you are saying you flashed back a stock att rom. With any of the current methods of doing this, you are free to flash whatever you like when you are done and you can achieve exactly what you say you are trying to.
Please be clear - you are doing exactly what's already being done - except you are skipping the root/clockwork steps. In order to downgrade the radio, it must be in an HTC signed zip file, and if you had one with only the radio, there would be no need to flash back the RUU. That's needed because you did a full downgrade, not just a radio downgrade.
attn1 said:
Really? You downgraded the radio without flashing a downgrade DHD ROM?
My BS detector is going off, especially since you are saying you flashed back a stock att rom. With any of the current methods of doing this, you are free to flash whatever you like when you are done and you can achieve exactly what you say you are trying to.
Please be clear - you are doing exactly what's already being done - except you are skipping the root/clockwork steps. In order to downgrade the radio, it must be in an HTC signed zip file, and if you had one with only the radio, there would be no need to flash back the RUU. That's needed because you did a full downgrade, not just a radio downgrade.
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Nope, you are right, I miss-spoke, its a full downgrade.
real4g said:
All I really wanted was S-OFF and Root.
Going through all the different packages others had released I did this with my new phone:
Created Gold Card
downgraded radio
s-off, sim-unlock, etc
flash back stock att rom with RUU tool (Guess I can extract it and flash via SDCARD)
This leaves you at a point that I believe is back to stock with the only difference being S-OFF is on.
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I have actually done this part. exactly as you mention. Now I would like to Root this stock ROM manually, rather than flash a pre-rooted ROM. I want to do this purely for experience so that I can gain a better understanding of the system and the process. I have not been able to find any real guidance for doing this as everything seems to be focused on creating and flashing pre-rooted roms.
Is it possible to root this stock ROM once you have S-OFF? or do you need to flash a pre-rooted ROM? Any guidance you might have will be much appreciated.
I would be interested in seeing the script just to see how you have done it
I wanted try the update and same time get my eng-S back on. I followed the return to stock method to get my phone back to the factory state with s-on and successfully got the update. My question is, now will any versions of the ace-hack-kit work on my updated phone to root, s-off and sim-unlock again if I so wished? I only ask because I am not very happy with the battery usage on the stock rom. I did wanted to get rid of the eng-s off because of all the warnings but I didn't think about going back to my rooted and unlocked state when I updated (that was sort of foolish of me).
You're basically back where you started. To re-root, you'll need to downgrade the ROM so you'll lose anything you got from the update anyway.
attn1 has already posted a rooted version of the new update here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042) so flashing this ROM will give you everything from the update with root
Or root it yourself using Gingerbreak (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1057104)
I have not tried either of these, but both threads are reporting good things. A little search goes a long way
I need to go back to stock actually, and from all the "stock" roms I've seen they are all cingular based. When I got the phone it said nothing about Cingular splash screens or whatever. it was all ATT screens and I cannot for the life of me find that specific stock rom for my Inspire.
Sudogaron said:
I need to go back to stock actually, and from all the "stock" roms I've seen they are all cingular based. When I got the phone it said nothing about Cingular splash screens or whatever. it was all ATT screens and I cannot for the life of me find that specific stock rom for my Inspire.
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Follow the steps in my sig, second post.
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Follow the steps in my sig, second post.
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I'm doing that right now actually. I found it after posting that last message.
I had installed CM7 on my phone, but didn't work right, so i flashed back stock rom (tweaked w/o bloats)...everything is great...but still the GPS is giving me issues. If the issue is RADIO related, can someone just tell me which radio is the real At&t stock radio? There are a few of them out there and i am not sure now which one is the TRUE radio....also if there is any other tweaks you guys think i should do, please elaborate as i am about to throw my phone to the nearest lake LOL.
Thanks.
gmiusa02 said:
I had installed CM7 on my phone, but didn't work right, so i flashed back stock rom (tweaked w/o bloats)...everything is great...but still the GPS is giving me issues. If the issue is RADIO related, can someone just tell me which radio is the real At&t stock radio? There are a few of them out there and i am not sure now which one is the TRUE radio....also if there is any other tweaks you guys think i should do, please elaborate as i am about to throw my phone to the nearest lake LOL.
Thanks.
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Either post in the CM7 thread or in the general section. This doesn't belong in the dev section. Also look for the thread AngelDeath wrote, it will help with gps issues.
Sent from my dessert flavored Inspire
Top link in my sig has what you need.
id10terrordfw said:
Top link in my sig has what you need.
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Yup - I followed step 1 and 2 (flash radio and RIL) twice, and my GPS is back. Hasn't worked for the last 3 or 4 ROM/Radio combos I've had. I've tried every GPS "fix" on these forums. But flashing ATT's latest Radio/RIL (from your thread) restored GPS functionality for me.
please show me exactly where i need to find this fix...went to your link and didn't find anything. Thanks for your help
Regarding the posting in the wrong section, i didn't see this CM7 section....and since i Don't have CM7 it doesn't apply.... i am back at stock. Thanks for your concern though
gmiusa02 said:
please show me exactly where i need to find this fix...went to your link and didn't find anything. Thanks for your help
Regarding the posting in the wrong section, i didn't see this CM7 section....and since i Don't have CM7 it doesn't apply.... i am back at stock. Thanks for your concern though
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Do these steps:
Instructions
Prerequisites:
A basic knowledge of flashing ROMs and Radios on the HTC Inspire 4G and ADB commands
S-Off HTC Inspire 4G with CWM Recovery and AT&T service
MicroSD card inserted in phone
Root capable file explorer (I prefer Root Explorer, as it can set permissions)
Download the following three files and extract to the location of your choice on your SD Card: MultiUpload
Steps:
NANDROID BACKUP BEFORE BEGINNING!
1. Place PD98IMG.zip(12.39a.60.19x_26.06.06.30_M) on root of SD Card (location: \mnt\SDCard) Reboot into bootloader to install updated Radio(If necessary, if you have already flashed this radio you do NOT need to reflash radio.)
2. Once radio is installed, reboot into ClockworkMod Recovery and install the Speed Boost .zip from CWM. This includes the updated RIL files for the radio as well as propeditor for the next step
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So i bought an inspire from my friend and all was good until yesterday when the volume down button stopped working on me. then after a series of crazy boots it started working again which is leading me to believe the software is effed up. Its running MDJ's Ultimate droid HD v 1.8 and is completely freaking out on me. Being new to android, i just want to flash it back to stock. Can anyone help me out? also, the volume button is again acting stupid so hopefully it starts working again.
Griff1220 said:
So i bought an inspire from my friend and all was good until yesterday when the volume down button stopped working on me. then after a series of crazy boots it started working again which is leading me to believe the software is effed up. Its running MDJ's Ultimate droid HD v 1.8 and is completely freaking out on me. Being new to android, i just want to flash it back to stock. Can anyone help me out? also, the volume button is again acting stupid so hopefully it starts working again.
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This is the ROM/Radio RUU from the latest OTA Update (it has root though):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042
You want the first download (RUU_Ace_Cingular_US_1.84.502.11-Radio-26_06_06_30_M_PD98IMG.zip - No side load (Unknown sources/3rd party app - original ATT) version
md5sum: f2c80025662eae4f68f205d5cda48fa2)
If you want pure stock here's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952224) the RUU from ship (no root). After you install this at some point you will be prompted to install the OTA update
homeslice976 said:
This is the ROM/Radio RUU from the latest OTA Update (it has root though):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042
You want the first download (RUU_Ace_Cingular_US_1.84.502.11-Radio-26_06_06_30_M_PD98IMG.zip - No side load (Unknown sources/3rd party app - original ATT) version
md5sum: f2c80025662eae4f68f205d5cda48fa2)
If you want pure stock here's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952224) the RUU from ship (no root). After you install this at some point you will be prompted to install the OTA update
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Note that will not get you s-on
and how do i go about flashing the non rooted one. i just want this phone to be out of the box. sorry for the noob questions, im brand new to android. And if it helps any its running a custom gingerbread 2.3.3 rom
Griff1220 said:
and how do i go about flashing the non rooted one. i just want this phone to be out of the box. sorry for the noob questions, im brand new to android. And if it helps any its running a custom gingerbread 2.3.3 rom
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Turn off USB debugging (Settings-Applications-Development-Remove check from USB Debugging), connect phone to computer, make sure you're in Charge only mode. The file you download is in .exe, so just run the program and follow the prompts. As stated earlier, this won't turn S-Off to S-On, but you'll still have a pure stock, unrooted ROM and Radio. There's a thread somewhere that discusses getting S-On (which you'll need to do before you run RUU if you're worried about it). Give me a minute and I'll try to dig it up.
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Follow the instructions here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353) under MISCELLANEOUS to get S-On before running the RUU. Needed files are provided.
Note: that thread says to run the RUU, then perform the modified hack kit instructions to get s-on, then run the ruu again. You should just be able start from running the hack to to step 3, running ./gfree -s on, then running the RUU - you shouldn't have to run it first.
Another note... make sure you download the hack kit from this thread. It's version 9. The newer versions worked a little differently and I don't think they use gfree to get s-off, so newer versions won't work like this.
What's Ruin? Why would I need to run it and what's s-off? Sorry I'm trying to learn as I go.
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Griff1220 said:
What's Ruin? Why would I need to run it and what's s-off? Sorry I'm trying to learn as I go.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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S-Off is Radio Security off. This is what allows you to flash custom ROMs/Radios/Kernels. Part of the root process is gaining S-Off. If you want a straight from factory set-up, you would need to return to S-On. This would only be necessary if you're returning the phone to ATT or HTC for some reason, even then it's not likely they would check this setting. You can still be S-On and run the stock, unrooted ROM
The RUU is a combination of the stock ROM, kernel, and radio. When you run it, it wipes anything currently on the phone and installs the image that's installed at the factory. When it's done, you will have a stock, unrooted ROM and kernel with the factory radio
If you feel it's a software issue, why not try flashing a different ROM instead of going back to stock? There are plenty of ROMs out there that work flawlessly if not next to it.
I would like to thank you homeslice976, as I stumbled into this thread looking around, but I had this same exact question!
Hi Guys,
Please excuse this possibly misplaced post (newb alert)
Sometime ago i read as much as i could before embarking on the root/unlock process after this i flashed the recommended radio for the rom at the time and all seemed to be well.
The rom i flashed is LD 2.2.3 & flashed kernel V2.2.9 to go with it. I have been using this since it was done.
I have recently booted to recovery/bootloader and i get an error saying that PD98img isnt/cannot be found etc.
Also whilst looking more carefully at the phones software information-under Settings, i see that my DHD's build number is 1.72.405.3.
This has lead me to believe that i have somewhere deviated from the correct method of this whole process and i am now worried that im not benefitting from this entire thing.
I am happy now to follow the masses up to Lee's GB ROM, but i want the foundations to be correct/ even if just in my head first.
I do NOT remember downgrading at all so this may be where i need to start.
What would help i think is a list of the steps i ought to have taken and perhaps the steps i need to accend to GB.
Please be gentle on me guys.....newb n all
Best Regards
WEz
I don't know that much but, if your radio s-off, and eng s-off and you've installed lee's froyo rom then you're fine.
That message you get in bootloader is normal.
Join the "masses" upto Lee's GB rom it's excellent. -Altho wait until tomorrow as he's making a few touch-ups to v3.1.3
EmprtArea said:
I don't know that much but, if your radio s-off, and eng s-off and you've installed lee's froyo rom then you're fine.
That message you get in bootloader is normal.
Join the "masses" upto Lee's GB rom it's excellent. -Altho wait until tomorrow as he's making a few touch-ups to v3.1.3
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Thanks for the prompt reply EmprtArea,
I did think i had done everything fairly correctly, its just that build No. 1.72.405.3 that completely threw me, from what i have read today in a rush, this number is rootable but shouldnt be able to run another ROM without a downgrade.....i may be getting my wires crossed though. Is there process in particular you recommend i follow for the transition to GB?
I think i have to use an up graded version of CWM dont i? 3.?????
Have you noticed much of an improvement with the GB ROM? I see most people are more than happy with it, forsaking the expected glitches/bugs in a cooked ROM like Lee's
Thanks for your help once again.
Wez
P.S Keep Up The Good Work LeeDrOiD!! A few beers coming from me when i get your GB ROM up n running here
ClockworkMod is able to flash anything when you have it in your phone + S-OFF, so it is not unusual that you do not need to downgrade. Bootloader does not get informed about what has been flashed in ClockworkMod, so the number remains the same.
Ahhhhhhh, that clarifies it totally, thankyou very much for that snippet. Everyday is like a learning curve on XDA, its cool.
Thankyou, both of you. For a moment there i thought id jumped the gun and messed it up.
Thanks