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Has anyone else here just given up on 2.2 being released, and instead are more excited about custom 2.3?
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Has anyone else here just given up on 2.2 being released, and instead are more excited about custom 2.3?
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Nope, 2.2 overcomes a bigger barrier than 2.3. With 2.1 I'll finally be able to use the new GMail app, the new voice search app, etc. 2.3 is nice & interesting, but there really aren't any killer features to me besides the new look. And even that is achievable using a theme. Plus a released 2.2 will be more stable than a ported 2.3.
Note: The only reason I am on 2.1 still is I am waiting for a stable 2.2 captivate release to use as a basis for my next custom ROM.
emuneee said:
Nope, 2.2 overcomes a bigger barrier than 2.3. With 2.1 I'll finally be able to use the new GMail app, the new voice search app, etc. 2.3 is nice & interesting, but there really aren't any killer features to me besides the new look. And even that is achievable using a theme. Plus a released 2.2 will be more stable than a ported 2.3.
Note: The only reason I am on 2.1 still is I am waiting for a stable 2.2 captivate release to use as a basis for my next custom ROM.
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you should try the axura rom. most stable rom to date! AND its 2.2..... AND GPS works great for most people using the rom. AND it has awesome support! AND....
The main reason i'm waiting for the official release is i don't want to wipe my phone/
I haven't given up because I've been using a fully functional Captivate-build of Froyo thanks to Cognition. Yes, it's not the 100% official 100% final version, but ya know what? It runs really damn good and I have yet to find anything missing/buggy due to the Froyo leak itself.
Don't want to wipe your phone? There are so many apps out there that make backing up and restoring a breeze. TitaniumBackup and ROM Manager to name two. I can flash a new version of Cognition AND have all my apps back up and running with their saved data in 20 minutes or less.
Pvster said:
you should try the axura rom. most stable rom to date! AND its 2.2..... AND GPS works great for most people using the rom. AND it has awesome support! AND....
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Not interested in no voicemail, the look of Axura, or using a kernel not built from Captivate source. Plus I'm tired of flashing ROMs lol
I'm sure Axura is a fine ROM for those who made that jump. I just like making my own ROMs from other people's Captivate parts.
I'm more tired of seeing yet another thread about the unreleased official Froyo 2.2.
I deem this thread close
We will see when they release an official version of 2.2 and there will be threads all over the place when it happens.
Hi,
Well we have an Froyo Kernel (UK,Orange,Chinese) well the guys at the XT720 got Froyo with 2.1 UK Kernel to Work.
Someone gonna try 2.3 with 2.2. UK/Orange Kernel?
That would be something really nice we could work on
Cause with 2.2 UK / Orange we have perfect working Froyo, now there ist only 720p (half done) ,FM-Transmitter (seems impossible) and finally Bootloader Cracking(really hard work) left for Developers
We could use CM7 or Milestone Gingerbread Port
Regards
the guys that are working on milestone baked a fully?! working gingerbread, can't the same method they used to get it working on milestone be used for our defy? i also read that custom kernels can be loaded on droid x and milestone
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/pr...5-getting-custom-kernels-running-droid-x.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941346
can anybody make an attempt!?
I dont care about pays rom or s.froyo all what we want is stock gingerbread or even cm7 but no more froyo blur roms plz!!!
Bendary said:
I dont care about pays rom or s.froyo all what we want is stock gingerbread or even cm7 but no more froyo blur roms plz!!!
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personal i dislike motoblur!
my defy's rom are deblurred!! the dream its to have a cyano porting for our defy!
Can someone describe to me what a deblur rom is cz it still looks like blur to me.
adi4motion said:
the guys that are working on milestone baked a fully?! working gingerbread, can't the same method they used to get it working on milestone be used for our defy? i also read that custom kernels can be loaded on droid x and milestone
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/pr...5-getting-custom-kernels-running-droid-x.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941346
can anybody make an attempt!?
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Unfortunately I can't find any information that they actually used the kexec method to load a fully custom kernel. I'm hoping they are still hiding it for the public to get rid of bugs. I fear though it's never going to happen. Despite that fear, a true CM7 on our Defy with a Moto kernel would already be quite nice. The custom roms so far are nice, but they are nothing more than adaptations of the original firmware. There is still Moto stuff in them, and don't we all just want to have Gingerbread on our Defy?
Honesty.... Gingerbread is the worst update google has done.. might as well wait for Icecream for some REAL update besides some phone off animations. Before we even got a froyo rom I attempted to port it with advice I got from dexter awhile ago... obviously didn't work.
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All I can say is can't wait for blurless tmous froyo (cue jboogie)
2.3 doesn't seem to do much really...
It would be nice to have the latest ginger just to have the latest ginger to keep our Defy up to date.
I agree with jboogie3, it would be better keep some energy to concentrate our efforts on the next release during this time if you don't like blur stuff I would advise the latest jboogie3 rom which is really fast and as blurless as it's reasonable to be (only miss ginger keyboard which has improvements and drawbacks .
A core CM port would be nice though.
Cheers,
Kribou
I hope Motorola gives defy little ginger, because froyo its close to final release.
I think that Motorola developers will not stop there.
But its only me..
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Jt612 said:
2.3 doesn't seem to do much really...
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Yes, there are few small changes, but if the kernel could be ported that will be nice...maybe in some we could really have fully customizable roms on our defy
I just want 24bit gallery back.
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personal i dislike motoblur!
my defy's rom are deblurred!! the dream its to have a cyano porting for our defy!
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Unfortunately even the deblurred ROMs aren't running stock apps. They still have Moto contacts, moto dialler, cmp and more at a minimum, not to mention there are moto services you can't get rid of.
It's not that I don't appreciate the work the devs are doing with ROMs but all I really want is a proper Froyo stock ROM, maybe one day I'll get bothered enough to try and make one
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Unfortunately even the deblurred ROMs aren't running stock apps. They still have Moto contacts, moto dialler, cmp and more at a minimum, not to mention there are moto services you can't get rid of.
It's not that I don't appreciate the work the devs are doing with ROMs but all I really want is a proper Froyo stock ROM, maybe one day I'll get bothered enough to try and make one
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Good luck....
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bam0 said:
Unfortunately even the deblurred ROMs aren't running stock apps. They still have Moto contacts, moto dialler, cmp and more at a minimum, not to mention there are moto services you can't get rid of.
It's not that I don't appreciate the work the devs are doing with ROMs but all I really want is a proper Froyo stock ROM, maybe one day I'll get bothered enough to try and make one
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at this moment the most we can do with rom deblur, is to change
some applications aosp with some blur .... not easy to delete all app
motorola, there are some default app that you just replace them, but must rewrite the correct library for it to work properly, such (for example) as a keyboard (or gingerbread Android) ..
Everyone, could you plz save your efforts with all the blur roms and start baking stock roms cz I believe it is possible but just needs alot of work, so to all the devs here can u all work on the same project of unlocking the bootloader and porting stock roms, plz!!!
are you serious?
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Kribou said:
It would be nice to have the latest ginger just to have the latest ginger to keep our Defy up to date.
I agree with jboogie3, it would be better keep some energy to concentrate our efforts on the next release during this time if you don't like blur stuff I would advise the latest jboogie3 rom which is really fast and as blurless as it's reasonable to be (only miss ginger keyboard which has improvements and drawbacks .
A core CM port would be nice though.
Cheers,
Kribou
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Gingerbread keyboard works dandy on my defy.
There is a port for 2.2 devices...
Gingerbread is all in all a nice update. made my hd2 faster, better looking and added this little orange bumps to the lists...
btw: 2.3.3 enables a lot of apps made for multiple processors.
There are many kernel sources (and more sources) available on motodev
ex:
https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/go/projects.moto_defy/frs.defy_skt.jdskt_u3_02_20_0
https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/...ects.moto_defy/frs.defy_latam.jorla_u3_6_14_5
There are sources of the 2.1.1, but i find nothing related to the 3.4.2 build
but kernel Makefile shows v2.6.29 and not 2.6.32
So after seeing many things that is said with the D2 I thought I should write a post like this. This is just to clear up confusion so users can have the knowledge to use in the future.
Every ROM for the D2 is AOSP
I have seen this said many times and it bugs me that people think that all ROMs are AOSP. As of now, there are actually only a few AOSP ROMs for the D2, cvpcs' Tanzanite/Obsidian, Cobalt, and blackdroid's Ultimate Droid. Other ROMs like rubiX, Liberty, ApeX, and Fission are basically Motorola ROMs with the blur applications replaced with AOSP applications. Now this does not actually make it AOSP. It has features from AOSP, but there is much more to it than the applications. These blur-based ROMs actually have other AOSP-like features, such as lock screen music controls and a few others. Now that also doesn't make it AOSP, those are just a few features that were originally modifications to AOSP to add more functionality to a ROM. That doesn't mean these ROMs are bad in any way. They are actually very good. The only downfall of them is the fact that they are limited to what can be done.
There can't be AOSP ROMs without a custom kernel.
Another statement I have been told or have seen several times. It is considered AOSP if it comes from Google's source. A kernel won't affect the fact that it was built from source. Although it would be ideal for a custom kernel with AOSP, it isn't needed.
A custom kernel is needed.
This is another incorrect statement. It would be nice to replace the kernel, but it isn't needed. The kernel that is provided to us from Motorola includes basically everything the end user would need. Also there is overclocking(although it isn't the easiest implementation) by adding a temporary module to the kernel that is erased after the phone is powered off.
Gingerbread won't come to the D2 until Motorola releases a new kernel with their Gingerbread update.
Incorrect. What the original concern was that Gingerbread would not boot with a .32 kernel(the kernel the D2 has.) and that it needs a .35 kernel. This was later proven wrong with D1. The D1 has been running Gingerbread for a bit now with a .32 kernel. Now I know people will say it is is a different kernel or something along those lines, but that doesn't matter. Gingerbread will boot on it without needing to replace the current kernel.
Fantastic post. Very clear, informative and I learnt more in the 2 minutes reading your post than the hours I've spent reading other threads.
Top stuff.
"Most truths were once deemed blasphemy"
Whats taking so long for Gingerbread then?!
Nice write up, very informative.
Matt, can you check out the MIUI thread in D2 development? Another developer and I are working on the port but we need someone with really good D2 experience to look over the rom and tell us why it gets stuck on the moto logo each time, we would really appreciate it if you could check it out for us.
Thanks,
ljbaumer
P.S. nice post it's really clear and will help out noobs.
ljbaumer said:
Matt, can you check out the MIUI thread in D2 development? Another developer and I are working on the port but we need someone with really good D2 experience to look over the rom and tell us why it gets stuck on the moto logo each time, we would really appreciate it if you could check it out for us.
Thanks,
ljbaumer
P.S. nice post it's really clear and will help out noobs.
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Matt I would have to ask nicely along with ljbaumer, if you wouldnt mind taking a look at the rom dev section for the MIUI D2 rom!
I know you lost your D2 and no longer have it but anything could help them w/ progress
Would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Someone should sticky this thread cause it is really useful information
Gingerbread won't come to the D2 until Motorola releases a new kernel with their Gingerbread update.
Incorrect. What the original concern was that Gingerbread would not boot with a .32 kernel(the kernel the D2 has.) and that it needs a .35 kernel. This was later proven wrong with D1. The D1 has been running Gingerbread for a bit now with a .32 kernel. Now I know people will say it is is a different kernel or something along those lines, but that doesn't matter. Gingerbread will boot on it without needing to replace the current kernel.
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This is now irrelevant, take a quick jaunt over to MDW where P3Droid has released full stock moto gingerbread builds for both D2 and DX in update.zip formats (new blur builds). Only catch with them at this time is that no one has figured out how to root them yet, but you can restore back with a previous SBF.
What differences could be expected if GB were to be paired with a .35 kernel rather than the .32 kernel of the current Moto GB leak?
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This is now irrelevant, take a quick jaunt over to MDW where P3Droid has released full stock moto gingerbread builds for both D2 and DX in update.zip formats (new blur builds). Only catch with them at this time is that no one has figured out how to root them yet, but you can restore back with a previous SBF.
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I'm pretty sure they've rooted the GB builds... I had superuser access and could boot to recovery and everything. You do have to SBF back to them though, I learned that the hard way.
I am running the rooted Gb and loving it. I would love to see a cm7 version for the Droid 2
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DX is supposedly getting the GB OTA, so the D2 should be next and soon!
Guys I am new to the XT720 scene. I am wondering which ROM releases are currently suitable to being used daily i.e. they are very stable. Thanks!
I am currently looking at CM6, CM7, and Bravo2.2
cm6 rc3 by mioze is quite stable.
if you like others rom maybe i suggest miuifinal v2 or steelepicblue v4, maybe its not a new rom but it stable. the v4 gave best pict and vid record. but thats only my opinion.
Yeah, Mioze's CM6 and Khal's V4 ROMs are very stable and good for everyday use. havent tried bravo and cm7 yet, but based on everyone's replies in the threads for these roms, i think they should be alright too. I'm currently on CM6. havent got a single problem since i flashed the first build but im getting bored. next stop for me: cm7.
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Yeah, Mioze's CM6 and Khal's V4 ROMs are very stable and good for everyday use. havent tried bravo and cm7 yet, but based on everyone's replies in the threads for these roms, i think they should be alright too. I'm currently on CM6. havent got a single problem since i flashed the first build but im getting bored. next stop for me: cm7.
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I am in the same boat for my personal phone (Fascinate). However, the owner of the XT720 will be quite happy having something that just 'works'. And unfortunately for CM7 on the Fascinate there are too many bugs still for the everyday person to be happy with it imo. One bug in particular is that data will drop out and not reconnect if you get into a very low signal area.
I've noticed the author of the CM6 port has written quite a few things on here. Is there a reason why this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1248096 says I need to use the stock UK XT720 sbf? I will be flashing on a Cincinnati Bell XT720.
personally i've been looking for a "perfect" rom that have no issues and stay in 2.1 because everything have one issue at least, i've been following this post [ROM][30.10.2011] CyanogenMod 7.1.0 Milestone XT720 RC1 and give me hope's to upgrade my phone, because it's made for the developers to exclusive Motorola XT720, and it's good because every phone it's different although have the same operating system.
See this post if you like, that explains all existing rom's for XT720 Rom's for xt720
So I´m having a little patiente for a "perfect" rom.
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See this post if you like, that explains all existing rom's for XT720 Rom's for xt720
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Haha. I was going to link that too. Here is the whole thread link b/c there is more in there than just my one post. It was an off-the-top-of-my-head list at the time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1298208
AuroEdge said:
I am in the same boat for my personal phone (Fascinate). However, the owner of the XT720 will be quite happy having something that just 'works'. And unfortunately for CM7 on the Fascinate there are too many bugs still for the everyday person to be happy with it imo. One bug in particular is that data will drop out and not reconnect if you get into a very low signal area.
I've noticed the author of the CM6 port has written quite a few things on here. Is there a reason why this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1248096 says I need to use the stock UK XT720 sbf? I will be flashing on a Cincinnati Bell XT720.
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you can flash it on any rom, and most likely wont get any problem.
but if you encounter any, the best and easiest way is to flash an sbf using motorola's rsdlite to flash sbf's (the stock rom from motorola), and root again, install recovery again, and flash. might sound like a lengthy process, but it gives you the least probability of getting things that screw up the flashing. i think you can use any sbf though. UK might have been the personal preference of the one who wrote the guide.
I'm assuming that flashing an SBF will format the flash memory. Does CM6 on this phone support ext4? It looks like it only supports it on the external microsd card
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I'm assuming that flashing an SBF will format the flash memory. Does CM6 on this phone support ext4? It looks like it only supports it on the external microsd card
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At this point only the external will support ext4. If you are asking b/c of something like Voodoo, that converts the /system, /data, /cache and /dbdata to ext4, it will not work on these phones b/c we only have the stock kernel and a hijack swap kernel by Fjfalcon.
If you flash any other kernel, it will brick the phone. Hazards of a locked bootloader. Fyi
edit::: Just an fyi too, can't use Clockwork Recovery on these phone. Gotta use a custom one that Mioze created to flash ROMS, check partitions, convert ext3 to ext4,...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242259 It is similar, but different.
Thanks for all of the great advice. I eventually got CM6 rc3 installed cleanly late last night. At first glance it is a HUGE improvement. I am having issues with MMS which is related to apns-conf.XML. As mentioned in my other post is there a copy of this CBW file which I can download and overwrite on the phone itself?
Hi guys, I was looking for a bit of help.
I've had this phone for 1 year and 2 months now and I'm sick of the slow and laggy experience.
I've heard about lag fixes, kernels, roms etc. but didn't see the value in risking bricking my phone, there are so many little things people say such as make sure you have this or that kernel before flashing etc.
Now I'm annoyed enough to change, I just updated to Gingerbread since I heard the GB bootloaders were better to flash roms with and I'm wondeirng what kernel/ROM combo would satisfy my need for better battery life and speed.
I'm looking for a ROM that is fast and has good battery life. I don't wat to use ICS because I like having plenty of free RAM since I often browse with 1-8 tabs open.
I don't really care a ton about custom UI enhancements, I use launcher pro for speed and I don't see myself ditching it.
For me, the best pickup in speed/stability has been from simply replacing the kernel for KK4-based ROMs with the Corn kernel. You can do this with the "stock" Gingerbread release (build I897UCKK4) from AT&T.
If flash this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294477
via Odin, you can then root your stock ROM easily, install something like Titanium Backup from the market, and then "freeze" the junk apps/services that contribute to slowing down your ROM.
to add to ^^...after flashing corn kernel...you can flash any custom GB rom...as Corn kernel has custom Recovery....
All custom roms are faster and have more feature then stock rom...
Also its very easy to flash ICS roms once you are on GB bootloader with custom kernel...
Thanks for the input guys.
So I can just flash this kernel with my stock ROM, and not lose anything, right?
I also know that the early lagfixes used to create new partitions and use a different filesystem to speed up the phone.
Do the kernels include a lagfix? Or is that only included in the ROM? And does the kernel do anything like messing with partitions or filesystems? That was one of the reasons I didn't bother lagfixing my phone.
The details on the kernel pages are non-existant so I'm hoping you guys can fill me in.
I would appreciate a lagfix so it doesn't take 10-15 seconds to create a bookmark.
Try ICS! You won't be dissapointed.
Flash any desired rom for YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE
i flash at least 3 roms weekly
switching between diffent ones...
YOU have to try them out everyone has different likes and dislikes
there is no ONE rom thats the best
just become a flashaholic and live the life man!!!
Try simplystock kk4 v1.0
It is stable and fast and easy to flash. That was first ever custom rom i used and pure pleasure it was
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You could try Nostalgia 2.1 It's the kernel it comes with already has all the lagfix tweaks done. It might be a good place for you to start.
ICS
Definitely at this point you should be flashing ICS Roms. They are much snappier than GB roms and at this point they are very stable.
My current ROM and recommendation is V3.1 of Doc Master's ICS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462035
When I look for a ROM I usually look for stability and good battery life and customizations. I don't overclock or anything. I mainly want a cool, sleek, functional ROM. Just my preference.
2 Cappy's in family. Son's running Serendipity VII right as flashed. He does Facebook and all the other teenager stuff with it. Super stable and proven.
http://serendipity7.weebly.com/
My cappy is running Apex 12.4 with the Semaphore kernel. GB 2.3.6. packaged support for several kernels including corn 1.05 which supports the Audience chip in the Cappy. Actively developed and evolving.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355826
http://apex.merseine.us/
Serendipity VII is a beast
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Definitely at this point you should be flashing ICS Roms. They are much snappier than GB roms and at this point they are very stable.
My current ROM and recommendation is V3.1 of Doc Master's ICS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462035
When I look for a ROM I usually look for stability and good battery life and customizations. I don't overclock or anything. I mainly want a cool, sleek, functional ROM. Just my preference.
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I agree here! once you try ICS you will never go back to GB, its so much better, and as mentioned, Doc's V3.1 is one of the best so far indeed
Thread closed.
Best ROMs are subjective, best to test and see what works well for you.