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Common Misconceptions About the D2.

So after seeing many things that is said with the D2 I thought I should write a post like this. This is just to clear up confusion so users can have the knowledge to use in the future.
Every ROM for the D2 is AOSP
I have seen this said many times and it bugs me that people think that all ROMs are AOSP. As of now, there are actually only a few AOSP ROMs for the D2, cvpcs' Tanzanite/Obsidian, Cobalt, and blackdroid's Ultimate Droid. Other ROMs like rubiX, Liberty, ApeX, and Fission are basically Motorola ROMs with the blur applications replaced with AOSP applications. Now this does not actually make it AOSP. It has features from AOSP, but there is much more to it than the applications. These blur-based ROMs actually have other AOSP-like features, such as lock screen music controls and a few others. Now that also doesn't make it AOSP, those are just a few features that were originally modifications to AOSP to add more functionality to a ROM. That doesn't mean these ROMs are bad in any way. They are actually very good. The only downfall of them is the fact that they are limited to what can be done.
There can't be AOSP ROMs without a custom kernel.
Another statement I have been told or have seen several times. It is considered AOSP if it comes from Google's source. A kernel won't affect the fact that it was built from source. Although it would be ideal for a custom kernel with AOSP, it isn't needed.
A custom kernel is needed.
This is another incorrect statement. It would be nice to replace the kernel, but it isn't needed. The kernel that is provided to us from Motorola includes basically everything the end user would need. Also there is overclocking(although it isn't the easiest implementation) by adding a temporary module to the kernel that is erased after the phone is powered off.
Gingerbread won't come to the D2 until Motorola releases a new kernel with their Gingerbread update.
Incorrect. What the original concern was that Gingerbread would not boot with a .32 kernel(the kernel the D2 has.) and that it needs a .35 kernel. This was later proven wrong with D1. The D1 has been running Gingerbread for a bit now with a .32 kernel. Now I know people will say it is is a different kernel or something along those lines, but that doesn't matter. Gingerbread will boot on it without needing to replace the current kernel.

Fantastic post. Very clear, informative and I learnt more in the 2 minutes reading your post than the hours I've spent reading other threads.
Top stuff.
"Most truths were once deemed blasphemy"

Whats taking so long for Gingerbread then?!
Nice write up, very informative.

Matt, can you check out the MIUI thread in D2 development? Another developer and I are working on the port but we need someone with really good D2 experience to look over the rom and tell us why it gets stuck on the moto logo each time, we would really appreciate it if you could check it out for us.
Thanks,
ljbaumer
P.S. nice post it's really clear and will help out noobs.

ljbaumer said:
Matt, can you check out the MIUI thread in D2 development? Another developer and I are working on the port but we need someone with really good D2 experience to look over the rom and tell us why it gets stuck on the moto logo each time, we would really appreciate it if you could check it out for us.
Thanks,
ljbaumer
P.S. nice post it's really clear and will help out noobs.
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Matt I would have to ask nicely along with ljbaumer, if you wouldnt mind taking a look at the rom dev section for the MIUI D2 rom!
I know you lost your D2 and no longer have it but anything could help them w/ progress
Would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

Someone should sticky this thread cause it is really useful information

Gingerbread won't come to the D2 until Motorola releases a new kernel with their Gingerbread update.
Incorrect. What the original concern was that Gingerbread would not boot with a .32 kernel(the kernel the D2 has.) and that it needs a .35 kernel. This was later proven wrong with D1. The D1 has been running Gingerbread for a bit now with a .32 kernel. Now I know people will say it is is a different kernel or something along those lines, but that doesn't matter. Gingerbread will boot on it without needing to replace the current kernel.
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This is now irrelevant, take a quick jaunt over to MDW where P3Droid has released full stock moto gingerbread builds for both D2 and DX in update.zip formats (new blur builds). Only catch with them at this time is that no one has figured out how to root them yet, but you can restore back with a previous SBF.

What differences could be expected if GB were to be paired with a .35 kernel rather than the .32 kernel of the current Moto GB leak?

bladearronwey said:
This is now irrelevant, take a quick jaunt over to MDW where P3Droid has released full stock moto gingerbread builds for both D2 and DX in update.zip formats (new blur builds). Only catch with them at this time is that no one has figured out how to root them yet, but you can restore back with a previous SBF.
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I'm pretty sure they've rooted the GB builds... I had superuser access and could boot to recovery and everything. You do have to SBF back to them though, I learned that the hard way.

I am running the rooted Gb and loving it. I would love to see a cm7 version for the Droid 2
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DX is supposedly getting the GB OTA, so the D2 should be next and soon!

Would there be an android 2.3 rom for xt720?

Sorry for being silly,could anyone tell me whether there will be any android 2.3 rom for xt720 someday later and why? Still,i am happy using my xt720 with dexter's froyo and trying out roms from different developers,thank you for all your efforts
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Guess that its pretty unplausible. There would have to be some xt720 2.3 rom from which could be copied.since there isnt its sadly pretty unprobable
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c0mpufreak said:
Guess that its pretty unplausible. There would have to be some xt720 2.3 rom from which could be copied.since there isnt its sadly pretty unprobable
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I think it's more that none of the active XT720 developers have the time or knowledge to do it yet. The Milestone 1 has 2.3-based ROMs without an official 2.3 release, but they are all built from source. I don't think anyone has a working 2.1 or 2.2 ROM built from source yet for the XT720 (although stlifey is very close to a fully working source build of CM6 for the XT701 so keep an eye on him). Once someone figures source builds for XT720 out, progress will be much quicker.

I c,thanks
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Mioze7Ae said:
I think it's more that none of the active XT720 developers have the time or knowledge to do it yet. The Milestone 1 has 2.3-based ROMs without an official 2.3 release, but they are all built from source. I don't think anyone has a working 2.1 or 2.2 ROM built from source yet for the XT720 (although stlifey is very close to a fully working source build of CM6 for the XT701 so keep an eye on him). Once someone figures source builds for XT720 out, progress will be much quicker.
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So 2.3 and beyond is technically feasible even with the locked bootloader - we just need our devs to have more experience?

syrenz said:
So 2.3 and beyond is technically feasible even with the locked bootloader - we just need our devs to have more experience?
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Keep in mind that even though we are using froyo right now, the kernel is still an "eclair" kernel. We need one of two things, either Motorola unlocks the bootloader, or we find a newer kernel that will work with our ROMs. Neither are very likely at this point.

syrenz said:
So 2.3 and beyond is technically feasible even with the locked bootloader - we just need our devs to have more experience?
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Well, we don't know what the hardware requirements for beyond 2.3 will be, but otherwise I would agree. I see no reason that a 2.3 port using source would be impossible, esp. since Milestone A853 which has very similar hardware has done it already. Milestone A853 has exactly the same locked bootloader situation and uses 2nd-init. At this point the only things we can't replace are the kernel* and the partition tables. There are a few of us working on it and there are others (esp. in asian dev forums). I may not be the first--it's still beyond my skill set at the moment but I'm learning a lot from stlifey's XT701 and nadlabak's A853 ports.
*technically we can use our own kernels, but it's impractical (requires manual boot while plugged into a computer via USB)

reverendkjr said:
Keep in mind that even though we are using froyo right now, the kernel is still an "eclair" kernel. We need one of two things, either Motorola unlocks the bootloader, or we find a newer kernel that will work with our ROMs. Neither are very likely at this point.
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I'm pretty optimistic the kernel can be worked around, but you're right. There's no guarantees that the kernel we have has all of the features that might be required in the future. But I think the CM7 for Milestone runs using either the eclair or froyo kernels (with the eclair kernel considered the most stable the last time I checked).

Mioze7Ae said:
I'm pretty optimistic the kernel can be worked around, but you're right. There's no guarantees that the kernel we have has all of the features that might be required in the future. But I think the CM7 for Milestone runs using either the eclair or froyo kernels (with the eclair kernel considered the most stable the last time I checked).
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I would love it if someone would figure out a 2.6.32 kernel, even if it is only fastboot. I would just like to see if it changes anything for us at all.

fxxxing hate motorola,they produce nice phone but they ruin it with their policy

there is a chinese team working on 2.3 for 701
maybe this will help
bbs.gfan.com/android-1260443-1-1.html

wilsonlai12 said:
fxxxing hate motorola,they produce nice phone but they ruin it with their policy
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right...moto ruin everything ...and i don't care about 2.3 that much as long as moto unlocked bootloader so the devlopers can make us newer kernel support swap before it's too late.....damn moto

That's why on their new devices they're giving an unlocked bootloader, while HTC is locking their new phones.

zdfdreamfactory said:
maybe this will help
bbs.gfan.com/android-1260443-1-1.html
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So we can port it again ?

looking forward to seeing 2.3 is running on my xt720 haha if possible

[DEV] GreenBreadMod - green lensed cameras mod for official GB!

THE DEVICE HAS BEEN MODIFIED SO THAT IT CAN NOW SHOOT BOTH RED(NEW) AND GREEN(OLD) CAMERAS.
I've been unable to make green lense kernel modules work well with new kernel. GB kernel is dicks!
So i performed a fusion of 2.3 firmware onto 2.2 kernel via 2nd-init.
Pros:
Stable kernel
No ultra-bright buttons
Cons:
Somewhat slower than official 2.3
Live Wallpapers don't work
Contents:
2.2 (3.4.2-177) kernel
4.5.134 ramdisk
EGL drivers from Froyo
Camera libraries from Froyo
Sensors library from CM7
libsurfaceflinger/libserver_init from Droid2 GB OTA
libcamera wrapper by me, based on CM7 wrapper by maniac103
BlurCamera ported from Froyo (GB one is not stable)
Installation:
Install official GingerBread via nandroid + fixed sbf
Install 2nd-init recovery 0.6.1 or later
Install zip from recovery
Download:
http://tihiy.net/files/greenlens/GreenBread_1.1_release.zip
Make mirrors.
Disclaimer:
This is tested on latest (134) leak but may work on older or newer releases. I'm interested in results on those.
This is beta mod of beta firmware with frankenstein-esque methods
This may or may not work on red lenses
I'm not responsible for your damages
Please don't spam this thread with bugs, don't start flamewars and don't whine
Thanks to everyone in CyanogenDefy team!
Mention me if you're using my work.

GOOD。
but i used CM7 now.

I guess this will cause usb and wifi tether to not work?

This is great. i have red lense but this makes gingerbread development able for everyone.

This is just a great work for green lensed phones....

ephumuris said:
I guess this will cause usb and wifi tether to not work?
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Usb thether seems not working (was it ever working? dunno), 3g-wifi tether works.

great job,
i tried to mix old kernel with new ramdisk&/system - apparently failed.

Amazing, I will wait some day and I'll try for sure

Anyone already running it? If so how is it.
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XDA, I'm dissapoint! Why are you afraid to try?

Simplestas said:
XDA, I'm dissapoint! Why are you afraid to try?
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im trying it rite now, will post feedback asap.

good job!
my defy with green lense works fine!
thx

I'm really happy this has finally been done. I've sold my Defy few days ago and I regret that I could give the official 2.3 ROM a try. Good work !

works like a charm in my green lens defy. by the way, its the first time im running official 2.3.4, 4.5.1-134. i found it a bit laggy in comparison with nordic froyo and miui. maybe i need some reboots. im runinng shadow´s rooted version by walter (nandroid + fixed sbf).
EDIT: in the OP theres an advice that says live wallpapers dont work, im at wpclock 1.5.3 working as well.

yes dont work live wallpaper!

iaio72 said:
good job!
my defy with green lense works fine!
thx
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is the recording still choppy like in CM7 or as smooth as froyo

Help?
I have a stock gingerbread unrooted and I wanna try this. I've been searching, and it seems that the only way to get the phone rooted is having froyo first and flashing a nandroid. I am really lazy to go back to froyo. Is there any way to root GingerBlur?

I dont understand its for kernel 2.2.2 but we want for Gingervread kernel
But thanks

Is there any problem except live wallpapers.How is performance?I shld install and try this.
Is it support touch focus???

mick711 said:
I dont understand its for kernel 2.2.2 but we want for Gingervread kernel
But thanks
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How many times does it needs to repeated there is no such thing as gingerbread kernel. Kernel is one thing android version is another! Gingerbread can work with 29 32 35 kernels. Moto uses 32 to GB and froyo too.

The CM7 on MOTO XT720

I heard that this forum is a master transplant CM7 ROM, I would like to ask about the current progress
What is difficult to solve the problem?
Can provide the current ROM, I would like to try
Want to provide,
Thank you

I want to start by saying THANK YOU FOR MIUI!!!! You are awesome. And they have got cm7 booting up on xt720 but only if you flash motoroi 2.2.1. But the touch screen is not working. If I were you I'd get with Mioze7Ae. He's the Guy to talk to about it. There is a thread with the ROM download in it in the general thread.

oyang06 said:
I heard that this forum is a master transplant CM7 ROM, I would like to ask about the current progress
What is difficult to solve the problem?
Can provide the current ROM, I would like to try
Want to provide,
Thank you
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stlifey made a port of CM7 to XT701. That is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064090
If download links are dead there, let me know and I can mirror/reupload.
I think this is the main development page for the XT701 CM7, but the forum seems to be down for maintenance right now:
http://bbs.gfan.com/android-1297281-1-1.html
It doesn't work on XT720 yet. This is where things stand:
Using Milestone XT720 2.1 sbf
If you use a Milestone XT720 sbf, then it doesn't boot. I've been modifying it and have gotten it to go further with adb logcat working to get some messages out. This is the latest version I've been testing that makes it the furthest before rebooting:
http://www.multiupload.com/ULWN2ERP02
The radio panics and panic_daemon shuts down the phone. If you modify the init scripts, you can disable panic_daemon. Then it will boot to the point that zygote tries to start but has a library link problems so I've changed too many libraries .
From Korean Motoroi XT720 2.2 sbf
sktjdgns1189 figured out that if you flash the Korean Motoroi 2.2 sbf, root, install OpenRecovery, and apply the XT701 update without any modifications it boots up, but the digitizer doesn't work. You can do some things like long press the camera button to get the camera to come up and you can take pictures. See
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118236
Eventually it will crash and reboot. The bad news is that for some reason after you flash the the Motoroi sbf on Milestone XT720, you can't use volume-up to enter OpenRecovery. So you have to use adb ("reboot openrecovery") to get back into OpenRecovery. But I haven't been able to get adb to startup. So that means you're back to sbf for the next try. I can't figure out why the touch screen doesn't work.
sktjdgns1189 has also figured out how to get the battery notification working:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124927
Edit: Forgot to mention that we're now pretty sure that sktjdgns1189 has a Motoroi XT720 based on his photos. I've reproduced most of his results on a Milestone XT720.

easye420 said:
I want to start by saying THANK YOU FOR MIUI!!!! You are awesome.
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+1. Very fantastic work on MIUI. Great to see you looking into CM7 as well.

its going to be on android 2.3 right?

eejin2 said:
its going to be on android 2.3 right?
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If someone gets CM7 working then yes that is Android 2.3

Thank you Oyang06 for Miui rom and I wait CM7
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Looks like stlifey plans to release CM 7.1 for XT701 this weekend.
Off topic: Does anyone know what all the "ah"s that Google Translate adds means? I think wiktionary suggests "啊" == surprised+"!"? Also, does anyone know a good place to look up those four-character idioms? There's one about hunters that comes up a lot. Just curious.

lols. ah is like "oh". for idioms maybe you can copy to google then add "english meaning"

khankuan said:
lols. ah is like "oh". for idioms maybe you can copy to google then add "english meaning"
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I see! The google translated posts just seem a little strange because I guess "ah" and "oh" would come at the front of the expression in English. It can seem like reading threads where everyone is talking about Candlejack and then sudde

Haha, just post here if you need any translations awaiting patiently for CM7 Gingerbread XDXD

i can help a little with the translations too, haha. SOOOOO EXCITED FOR GINGERBREAD. i like the stock look of cm7 and of course the turning off crt animation of 2.3. CANT WAIT!
do you think we can get 2.3 miui running on our phone?

eejin2 said:
i can help a little with the translations too, haha. SOOOOO EXCITED FOR GINGERBREAD. i like the stock look of cm7 and of course the turning off crt animation of 2.3. CANT WAIT!
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Yeah, gingerbread is much more attractive than 2.2 and below all around. Plus it's supposed to be faster (and CM is supposed to be even faster) and have other goodies... would be so fantastic to see this for the XT720.

if you want to use adb
just use 2nd-init (default.prop : ro.secure=0, ro.debuggable=1, persist.service.adb.enable=1, persist.factory.allow_adb=1)
(and some code in init.mapphone_umts.rc (it for adb on bootup))
then you can use logcat/dmesg and etc even on bootup

wait and sad

CM7 would be a dream come true.
Best of luck guys, I will be watching

Wish I would know how to contribute to this happening... would make me feel better knowing I was making some progress. Well, hope this goal is attainable.

Dexter_nlb said:
Cyanogen from Milestone could easily be ported, like i did htc sense like on milstone... the issue is requirements and added extra button and fm radio.
but the rest would work from a milestone release.. fairly easy to do.
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I don't wanna sound arrogant and I really appreciate what you guys are doing, but am I missing something?

My take on that is their talking about milestone not milestone xt720.
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mchlbenner said:
My take on that is their talking about milestone not milestone xt720.
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No, Dexter posted that in his XT720 thread. I saw that the other day and was considering mentioning it, but I'm sure Mio and others are doing everything already.
Here's the post Dexter is responding to:
"From my understanding of the situation, Cyanogen is out of the question, for now. Dexter's roms are modifications of the official MOTOROI XT720 2.2 (KR) for our handsets. Due to the bootloader lock placed on the phone by Motorola, we can't compile our own systems based on the android sources.
Anybody correct me if I'm wrong with my situation assessment. "
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Though if Dexter feels it's so simple I wish he would elaborate for the benefit of our devs, just in case he knows something they don't.

{ROM}STACKZzHOUSE "D" UNTOUCHABLE

FRESH OUT THE KITCHEN
STACKZzHOUSE PRESENTS TO YOU
SENSE 2.1 FULLY OPTIMIZED
ULTRA STABLE NOT A SINGLE PROBLEM(hopefully lol)
A LIL CELLSOUTH A LIL CDMA
BUT FIRST OFF
NOT RESPONABLE FOR ANY DAMAGE YOU DO TO YOUR PHONE
FIRST RELEASE PRETTY GOOD FOR FIRST
Code:
ROOTED
SUPERUSER:rolleyes:
DEODEXED
ZIPALIGN
APPS2SD BOILED IN(BAKED):cool:
WIRELESS TETHERING
CUSTOM BOOT ALLOWED
BASH SHELL:p
GOOD OLD PACMAN GAME HEHE
SOME BLOAT WAS REMOVED
MUCH MORE:D
WORKING ON GETTING MORE FREE SPACE 110MB AFTER INSTALL
LINK TO DOWNLOAD
http://www.mediafire.com/file/zvrmvvq6d5wle4l/STACKZzHOUSE_V1.0.zip
ONE MAN TEAM
[email protected]

Quick question. Is this Ginger bread 2.3, Froyo 2.2, or Eclair 2.1?
I know its sense 2.1, but what android version is it?

alex_camacho said:
Quick question. Is this Ginger bread 2.3, Froyo 2.2, or Eclair 2.1?
I know its sense 2.1, but what android version is it?
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Given the market icon that represents android 2.1, I'd wager it's just a modified stock rom...could be me, but wasn't this done more than enough times already? Like almost 2 years ago? Android 2.1 is completely obsolete and nobody really wants it anymore...plus, liquidsense and nfx are already the best 2.1 roms out there...nothing can really be done to improve on them...OP, why not just use Android 2.3? I could just ruu and root if I wanted this

Holy Miracle Batman! It's alive! (Been trying to flash ROMs all week trying to revive this HERO from the dustbin...all other ROMs have been stuck at the HTC screen and bootlooping.)
Thanks for making a ROM that works for my HERO...now I got music at the gym! Just in time too...3 minutes to spare!

alex_camacho said:
Quick question. Is this Ginger bread 2.3, Froyo 2.2, or Eclair 2.1?
I know its sense 2.1, but what android version is it?
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this is straight from stock sprint and a lil stuff from overseas versions

SiNJiN76 said:
Holy Miracle Batman! It's alive! (Been trying to flash ROMs all week trying to revive this HERO from the dustbin...all other ROMs have been stuck at the HTC screen and bootlooping.)
Thanks for making a ROM that works for my HERO...now I got music at the gym! Just in time too...3 minutes to spare!
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glad to hear

goliath714 said:
Given the market icon that represents android 2.1, I'd wager it's just a modified stock rom...could be me, but wasn't this done more than enough times already? Like almost 2 years ago? Android 2.1 is completely obsolete and nobody really wants it anymore...plus, liquidsense and nfx are already the best 2.1 roms out there...nothing can really be done to improve on them...OP, why not just use Android 2.3? I could just ruu and root if I wanted this
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its probably was done alot but this my first time modding a rom so i decided to start with an old phone with it on stock if you knew its stock then maybe the post didnt apply to you ,,just saying i know for a fact theres people who is looking for this just like the guy who wants it for music in the gym

money2392 said:
its probably was done alot but this my first time modding a rom so i decided to start with an old phone with it on stock if you knew its stock then maybe the post didnt apply to you ,,just saying i know for a fact theres people who is looking for this just like the guy who wants it for music in the gym
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That's good job man. Ive been wanting to learn how to do this stuff but i just never get around to it.
You took a step in the right direction. Keep up the good work.

good to have another stock rom easily accessible, thanks for this

Multilingual ?
Does this rom support Multilingual?
Thanks

hey money,
if you want to reduce rom size, offer anything non-system essential in an optional update.zip. i see from screenshots you have pacman and nba, those could be offered in a separate zip. if you need any help at all doing this, feel free to ask, and ill help as much as possible. keep up the good work, i know you will go far.
maybe also if we feel froggy we can adapt aroma to your rom and let users choose exactly what they want and dont want?
also i see your on cellular south, maybe offer a separate update.zip for a sprint fix? this would include mms.apk from a sprint stock rom, sprint eri.xml, and telephony.db from a sprint rom. that way both carriers are supported.