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This will explain how to make your computer fast enough to run ubuntu (a form of Linux). And how to download the android package. This will take up 7 to 8 gb of space.
THIS IS FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT UBUNTU (NOT VIRTUAL AND NOT DUAL IF DON'T WANT TO BE)*This could delete windows if you didn't partion your hard drive right
NOT FOR NOOBS BE WARNED
Go to the ubunutu download page given below and download the 700 mb iso image file. Iso is a cd formatted file u can open it with a zip appclation(but don't). When it is finished I recommand getting a dvd but maybe it could fit on a cd.(*Note that you don't have to burn on to cd u could extract to decktop and run the setup manually.) Burn the ubuntu on to the cd/dvd and than restart your computer with the cd/dvd still in the computer's cd/dvd rom. When the computer goes to a blink screen and asks you if want to boot from cd/dvd press enter. And than from here on follow the instractions.
STEP 1 (CLEAN COMPUTER)
*Note: for performance do this in safe mode.
First we need to make your computer fast as possible. Create a backup just in case you want to back up something. So go to download.com and download Advanced SystemCare Free(7 -10 mb). After you have installed click on the CARE! button to get started. This could depend on your computer usage space the bigger the longer it will take. It will wipe all internet data. If you don't want that to happen just go to maintain windows and click on the Privacy Sweep box to uncheck. Than scan. Than go to utilities and run all the following Disk Check, Disk Cleaner and install Smart defrag. After installing Smart Defrag click start on all the options in this order defrag only, deep optimize, and fast optimize.
STEP 2: RESTART COMPUTER
After restarting go back to System FreeCare and run game booster(install). Click game mode and a pop up will show. Click the button on the left side of the box. Check all boxes but not explore. than go to game mode.
STEP 3: Download virtualbox(68 mb download)
You could have a dual if you want. The download page is http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads. Download the correct version. (windows= *VirtualBox 3.0.4 for Windows hosts x86/amd64). than install it.
Install Virtualbox(takes from 5-30 minutes depending on your computer)
Next>accept>next>next>next>yes>install>continue anyway(i got this like 6 times so...)>finish(i think)>cancel>new>Next>name=ubuntu>next>Next>Next>Next>Next>Next>
when u get to the virtual size thing move the bar to 7.5 gb (min). this should be a little extra space. Next>Finish>Next>
STEP 4: Download UBUNTU(700 mb)
DOWNLOAD PAGE http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download and choose the ftp. than begin downloading. After download save the file to desktop and DON'T DO ANYTHING. go to the VirtualBox and click CD/DVD-ROM. Check the box and also ISO IMAGE FILE after that and mount to that image on the desktop. THAN OK. press CTRL+ALT+DELETE. go to processes and end explore(for speed). Click Start.
PART 2
OK. START by running VirtualBox with the mount on the ISO ubuntu and than click start on the top right hand side. press enter to leave language than enter again to install ubuntu. on the top of the bar it may pause alot so go to machine and resume it. if it total doesn't work just exit and power down and reboot with explore.exe gone and also no windows up and running. and than just follow the instructions to installing it about 1 hour to 2 hours depending. Make sure that it is completely partation to the virtual drive. After like forever when u reach the main desktop go to app... terminal and make sure u knoe your password. Than type
The rest is here http://www.johandekoning.nl/index.php/2009/06/07/building-android-15-build-environment/. How to bulid the enviroment and getting the libs and other tools together. After all that run.
Sudo apt-get autoremove
Sudo apt-get autoclean
Than on Saturday and Sunday I will teach u how to make a rom.
There is a kernel problem with johan's idea I think I know what it is
Was going to wipe one of my computers anyway. This gives me a reason to stop procrastinating! Will give this a try. Waiting for part 2!
I know I will never get into rom making but it is very interesting to read about.
P.S. Make the paypal link a bit bigger, I can't read it
I already turned my back on windows so I run ubuntu so this is useless to me but I am waiting for part 2 so I can learn more about this, prob won't ever use it but it is good to knowhow to
Already running Mint in VB .. runs just great. I am interested in reading the ROM part though
WTF? Why do you need to do all of this crap on your computer to run Ubuntu? If I was going to dual boot with windows I would not use the stuff you listed. Why not just explain how to use it create a ROM and let people figure out how to get Ubuntu on their computer.
this seems more like spam, an advertisement for those products he listed. Any sensible person would not use virtual box to build android from source (problems you run into with the jvm running out of memory).
Besides, Johan already has a well posted blog about this:
http://www.johandekoning.nl/index.php/2009/06/07/building-android-15-build-environment/
but I would really recomend installing ubuntu through the windows installer (wubi) if you're a linux virgin, that way you don't risk anything in your windows partition, it's faster than virtualization, and eventually you'll drop windows once you learn how to use ubuntu at least.
Really, I think this is spam though.
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Really, I think this is spam though.
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I think you are right. I don't know if "part 2" is ever going to come, or if it will just be a copy/paste from the link you posted.
Wasn't it simpler to just install ubuntu as second os? If someone wants to dedicate himself to developement it would be better to have ubuntu not virtualized
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this seems more like spam, an advertisement for those products he listed. Any sensible person would not use virtual box to build android from source (problems you run into with the jvm running out of memory).
Besides, Johan already has a well posted blog about this:
http://www.johandekoning.nl/index.php/2009/06/07/building-android-15-build-environment/
but I would really recomend installing ubuntu through the windows installer (wubi) if you're a linux virgin, that way you don't risk anything in your windows partition, it's faster than virtualization, and eventually you'll drop windows once you learn how to use ubuntu at least.
Really, I think this is spam though.
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I am not sure if you have ever tried virtual box but it is quite responsive and seems too run better than wubi. I am sure it depends somewhat on the system a person is running, but with a quad and 4 gb of ram VB runs very well. While I have a dual boot with Ubuntu , I have still found it easier to do my android stuff in it's own virtual space. With a dedicated 75gb I can use it seamlessly with my Windows 7 install. You should try it it really works very well and I have had no memory problems at all and have manged to build from source without any difficulty whatsoever. My Ubuntu install stays clean and I can mess with my virtual Mint install as much as I like without ever affecting my Ubuntu partition.
Personally I have Ubuntu on a Prtition of My portable drive,which means I can boot it up anywhere (so long as the computer can USB Boot). I shall certainly be following the original info. The same guy has posted many good Android Articles.
As for the OP here, he only really needed to post a link, not copy the whole thing.
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I am not sure if you have ever tried virtual box but it is quite responsive and seems too run better than wubi. I am sure it depends somewhat on the system a person is running, but with a quad and 4 gb of ram VB runs very well. While I have a dual boot with Ubuntu , I have still found it easier to do my android stuff in it's own virtual space. With a dedicated 75gb I can use it seamlessly with my Windows 7 install. You should try it it really works very well and I have had no memory problems at all and have manged to build from source without any difficulty whatsoever. My Ubuntu install stays clean and I can mess with my virtual Mint install as much as I like without ever affecting my Ubuntu partition.
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Almost everything runs well with quad processors and 4GB of RAM. Oracle 10g runs well with that hardware. So that isn't saying much.
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Oracle 10g runs well with that hardware. So that isn't saying much.
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ha! this bit gave me a chuckle.
I freaking hate Oracle. I run a bunch of dbms' & 95% of my headaches come from them.
I prefer dual-booting, personally. I just started messing around with ubuntu (about 6 months maybe) and i love it, after using ubuntu i fully hate Windows Vista and all its sparkly, money-making horse-****. So now i have ubuntu and Windows both running smoothly on a compaq presario f700 laptop, and the only thing i really use my windows partition (i know thats not the correct technical terminology, just pay attention to the story) for is, well, basically just theming, and media storage. I use photoshop, and havent bothered to try using GIMP very much yet, and so i do all my theming (which isnt much really) in windows, which is where i also already have the autosign tools and draw9patch and other such things setup...and then all my music, pictures, whatever are all on my fat32 partition, and can all be accessed from either OS. aside from that, my computer boots into ubuntu by default. so if im using my computer, im doin it the ubuntu way, unless i NEED to use windows, for something like photoshop, and thats about it.
So long story short...(like its not already to late for that) im eagerly awaiting part 2 cuz ive been hitting some roadblocks...hope it helps!
-BMFC
mohsinkhan47 said:
Please donate and help me get a good ubuntu desktop from the case to the motherboard. Please donat.
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I'll get right on that. Is $500 enough?
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Almost everything runs well with quad processors and 4GB of RAM. Oracle 10g runs well with that hardware. So that isn't saying much.
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Ok Granted u are right about that and so it should.
But assuming I am not the only person with a quad and 4 gb of RAM, this may work just as well for others too. As as a relative newb with Linux, I can honestly say I have killed a few installations of Linux on my Hard Drive by breaking packages and other things that prevent it from working properly. Sometimes it is easier for me to reinstall the whole thing because I lack the knowledge to fix it.... in comes Virtual Box. I can totally screw it up as much as I want and my Linux partition on my hd remains intact with no errors.
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I am not sure if you have ever tried virtual box but it is quite responsive and seems too run better than wubi. I am sure it depends somewhat on the system a person is running, but with a quad and 4 gb of ram VB runs very well. While I have a dual boot with Ubuntu , I have still found it easier to do my android stuff in it's own virtual space. With a dedicated 75gb I can use it seamlessly with my Windows 7 install. You should try it it really works very well and I have had no memory problems at all and have manged to build from source without any difficulty whatsoever. My Ubuntu install stays clean and I can mess with my virtual Mint install as much as I like without ever affecting my Ubuntu partition.
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I do have virtualbox running on my linux box, my laptop's ubuntu side, and my laptop's win7 side. I also have a third computer that I have loaded with windows vista for the computer illiterate people in my house and a tiny dell mini 9 that I bought god-knows-why.
My main computer (since I can take it anywhere and my linux box i use mainly as a file server) is a gateway fx p-7805u. I won't have you google the specs, it's a 2.27 Ghz core 2 duo, 4 gb of ram, 320 gb main hard drive (plus I tossed a slow 5400 rpm 500 gb hd for files), so yeah, I can run virtualbox, but I mainly use it for running micro-xp on it for whatever else I need it.
I've used vb before like i said even configuring the vm with dual core support but there's no way it's as fast as a native system.
Anyway, wubi is not virtualization. It's an actual, loop-mounted image file/partition that fully utilizes the hardware it runs on. It's exactly the same as running a dual-booted system through partitioning, the only difference is that the ubuntu filesystem exists inside your ntfs partition rather than it's own partition, this has the effect of having a very slight hit on disk performance (much less than virtualization though), but everything else is running natively, even drivers. It's entirely safe for your host file-system and can be removed leaving no residual files anywhere on your system. It's also easy to share files with your host computer (with vb you have to set up a network share and then edit your /etc/init.d/rc.local to have it automount on startup, with wubi, it automatically creates a link to the host filesystem located at /host).
I've had to leave my computer building on vb overnight and then I come back to find that the process is stuck at some dex or java compilation, with an actual running system, this doesn't happen.
Give it a try, it costs nothing.
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U guys are evil
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Wow thanks! I really appreciate your work and considering donating to you. Since you make your paypal link so large, it really inspires me to donate.
Thanks again!
edit: (hope this post isn't considered to be spam like the original post is)
Better if you do
sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
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I do have virtualbox running on my linux box, my laptop's ubuntu side, and my laptop's win7 side. I also have a third computer that I have loaded with windows vista for the computer illiterate people in my house and a tiny dell mini 9 that I bought god-knows-why.
My main computer (since I can take it anywhere and my linux box i use mainly as a file server) is a gateway fx p-7805u. I won't have you google the specs, it's a 2.27 Ghz core 2 duo, 4 gb of ram, 320 gb main hard drive (plus I tossed a slow 5400 rpm 500 gb hd for files), so yeah, I can run virtualbox, but I mainly use it for running micro-xp on it for whatever else I need it.
I've used vb before like i said even configuring the vm with dual core support but there's no way it's as fast as a native system.
Anyway, wubi is not virtualization. It's an actual, loop-mounted image file/partition that fully utilizes the hardware it runs on. It's exactly the same as running a dual-booted system through partitioning, the only difference is that the ubuntu filesystem exists inside your ntfs partition rather than it's own partition, this has the effect of having a very slight hit on disk performance (much less than virtualization though), but everything else is running natively, even drivers. It's entirely safe for your host file-system and can be removed leaving no residual files anywhere on your system. It's also easy to share files with your host computer (with vb you have to set up a network share and then edit your /etc/init.d/rc.local to have it automount on startup, with wubi, it automatically creates a link to the host filesystem located at /host).
I've had to leave my computer building on vb overnight and then I come back to find that the process is stuck at some dex or java compilation, with an actual running system, this doesn't happen.
Give it a try, it costs nothing.
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Thanks for the info... now I know you have a lot of computers in your household But seriously, I am not trying to put anyone's opinion down here... so there is no need to be quite so elitist I am just pointing out my own experiences with Virtual Box which have been very good. If it doesn't work for you... fine.. but you are suggesting to everyone else that it doesn't work properly or well and I can quite definitively say that yes it does.. and very well too.
I would imagine that your system from what you say may not be powerful enough to handle it as well... so maybe a quad is needed to make it run the way it does for me, I don't profess to know the answer... only that it works great on my system.. it is not slow.... does not have errors and compiles Android source quite easily using Mint Linux (another Debian based Linux Distro for those that are unfamiliar with it)
I don't think I ever mentioned it was as fast as a native system... all I am saying is that it runs well and for a noob it can be run without messing anything else up as it runs in it's own little environment.
Maybe I'm missing something (probably am, but my searches have turned up nothing), but I can't seem to find any Linux packages for dealing with the Captivate. Odin, etc, and everything I've found, are Windows apps. I don't have, and certainly don't want, any Windows OS on my computers, nor do I want to deal with wine. I'm running Debian Sid, FWIW. Anyone have any pointers to Linux PC tools for the Captivate?
Heimdall is a start. Basically a replacement for ODIN.
Other than that, most everything you need should be able to be done on Linux.
What specifically are you trying to do, but can't?
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Maybe I'm missing something (probably am, but my searches have turned up nothing), but I can't seem to find any Linux packages for dealing with the Captivate. Odin, etc, and everything I've found, are Windows apps. I don't have, and certainly don't want, any Windows OS on my computers, nor do I want to deal with wine. I'm running Debian Sid, FWIW. Anyone have any pointers to Linux PC tools for the Captivate?
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multiple references are abound to Heimdall .... used as an alternative to ODIN for osx and linux
Yeah dude, all you really need is heimdall and the android sdk. With those two, you should be able to do all the same stuff windows users are able to, unless you're looking for linux versions of all those one-click-root-whatnot programs. If you really insist on using those, you're better off just installing windows in a virtual machine or something.
OK, thanks, I'll give Heimdall a look. I don't have to have 'one-click does it all'. I really can't do anything yet, since my phone hasn't arrived yet, I'm just trying to get prepared. I don't want to be limited to the AT&T lockdowns, and I want to be able to load any apps I want, not just what is available from the Market and approved by AT&T. I want to be able to look at the software and get somewhat comfortable with it before I start trying to do anything.
Heimdall will work great on your set up. There is also a linux version of the"super oneclick" tool. It didn't work great for me but there were some awesome step by step instructions in the thread to root via the command line.
Awesome instructions that didn't work, huh? I'm comfortable with a Linux command line, so I'll probably go with Heimdall. Some people seem to be having problems with it, but the main reason is probably inexperience with the Linux/OSX command line and with technology in general.
Thanks to all for the pointers. Obviously I wasn't putting exactly the right terms into Google, since I never saw a reference to Heimdall. Once I get a phone, I think I can figure it out as I go. Fedex is slow, as usual. We have a priority package sitting in the office at work that has been waiting on a pickup for over a month. The ground guy comes by almost every day, but he can't pick it up, only the air guy can, and he never shows up. Why, oh why, did we ever leave UPS for Fedex? My second-day delivery is going to take a week or so, but I'll survive somehow.
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Awesome instructions that didn't work, huh? I'm comfortable with a Linux command line, so I'll probably go with Heimdall.
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The program hung but the CLI instructions worked like a charm. Here is the CLI post if the app fails you also. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11661579&postcount=2806 (there is a typo in step 6; hint chmod...)
Also, here is a thread with some shell scripts you might find useful.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760500
I use linux with my Captivate.
I use Vmware within Linux to bring Win XP up and frim there I can use
Odin just fine!
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I don't have the space for a VM. My netbook only has 32GB, divided between / and /home, and I don't have a Windows license in any case. Nor would I install VMWare just for this, even if I had the space. It's Linux or nothing, and I think I have enough available now to get by when the phone shows up.
i use nlite to strip down windows xp and run it in a vm in virtual box, i only have a 40gig ssd since my other hard drive crashed but find it to be plenty for applications. i keep media on my network drive. the bigger issue than space is ram. if you dont have 2gigs+ on that thing ten virtual machines will bog you down considerably
i see your point though. i think the reason this forum doesnt have too much as far as instructins for linux is that we have odin and most linux users dont mind having windows for some stuff. im pretty sure that if somebody can write heimdal on there own that it is posible to flash without a special application.
also nearly everything you need to do can be done without a computer if you are starting with 2.1, you can root 2.1 with a file downloaded from this site then once rooted you can flash 2.2 roms that are pre rooted and have cwm built into the kernel. once you have root and busybox, terminal emulator and root explorer can do what ever adb can do. you can even use a bluetooth keyboard and tv out if you hate the touch interface for doing things with the file system.
Hi everyone! I recently switched from a Pre 2 to an HTC Trophy. I love WP7 but I have a few problems. Before I tell you about them I will tell you I have installed the Mango beta onto my device. (BTW I'm on Verizon) Now onto my issues.
* I am running Ubuntu. I have Zune installed in a Windows XP emulator. For some reason the entire computer (Ubuntu and Windows XP) don't recognize the phone when connected via USB. The device just charges.
* I am a big music buff and I NEED MUSIC ON MY DEVICE. As I have said, I run Ubuntu, how am I supposed to do this?
* I would love to use all those fun programs to edit the registry on the device to change the color schemes (because I hate the colors that come pre installed) but I run Ubuntu. I'm sure I could do it via emulator but how come my phone is not recognized?
* Please tell me why my phone isn't recognized.
Thankyou for all help in advance and I am really really really happy to be a part of this community. I used to be a member on XDA back in my Android days and I'm psyched to be back. Please help me with my problems
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Hi everyone! I recently switched from a Pre 2 to an HTC Trophy. I love WP7 but I have a few problems. Before I tell you about them I will tell you I have installed the Mango beta onto my device. (BTW I'm on Verizon) Now onto my issues.
* I am running Ubuntu. I have Zune installed in a Windows XP emulator. For some reason the entire computer (Ubuntu and Windows XP) don't recognize the phone when connected via USB. The device just charges.
* I am a big music buff and I NEED MUSIC ON MY DEVICE. As I have said, I run Ubuntu, how am I supposed to do this?
* I would love to use all those fun programs to edit the registry on the device to change the color schemes (because I hate the colors that come pre installed) but I run Ubuntu. I'm sure I could do it via emulator but how come my phone is not recognized?
* Please tell me why my phone isn't recognized.
Thankyou for all help in advance and I am really really really happy to be a part of this community. I used to be a member on XDA back in my Android days and I'm psyched to be back. Please help me with my problems
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You could try to setup Windows XP, Vista or Windows 7 in a virtual machine on your system. That should work.
dkp1977 said:
You could try to setup Windows XP, Vista or Windows 7 in a virtual machine on your system. That should work.
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Thanks for the reply, however, I already stated I'm running Windows XP in VirtualBox. When I run lsusb in Linux terminal one of the USB devices is Microsoft and when I unplug the device and run the command again it disappears. So it seems Ubuntu knows its there but since it has no mass storage capabilities it does not display it on the desktop. This still doesn't explain why Windows XP cannot see it because I have USB connections settings checked in VirtualBox.
I think it is a Windows XP problème... Windows 7 does a better job in recognizing devices.
XP is Just to old
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Thanks for the reply, however, I already stated I'm running Windows XP in VirtualBox. When I run lsusb in Linux terminal one of the USB devices is Microsoft and when I unplug the device and run the command again it disappears. So it seems Ubuntu knows its there but since it has no mass storage capabilities it does not display it on the desktop. This still doesn't explain why Windows XP cannot see it because I have USB connections settings checked in VirtualBox.
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You stated that you use an emulator. I really recommend using VM Ware. I never had any issues with USB devices or anything else on it. Since I never used VirtualBox I can't explicitly help you with it though, sorry.
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You stated that you use an emulator. I really recommend using VM Ware. I never had any issues with USB devices or anything else on it. Since I never used VirtualBox I can't explicitly help you with it though, sorry.
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Αnd in addition to that dont use XP ...
Use Windows 7 or Vista ...XP its not working for me....
Ok so now Windows XP sees the device as "Windows Phone 7" but Zune still won't detect it no matter what I do. Any ideas?
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Ok so now Windows XP sees the device as "Windows Phone 7" but Zune still won't detect it no matter what I do. Any ideas?
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XP is going to continue to be a bad choice... What version of ZUNE are you running?
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if you using Zune 4.7 try updating to Zune 4.8 and check if your mobile is getting detected.
Got a free laptop, need some insight on software. It's a Dell Inspiron 1526 running Vista (ugh). It needs to go on a diet. Here's a list of programs I use on my PC, that I want to use on the laptop.
Google Chrome
BitLord
7-Zip
Paint.net
AndroidSDK
Eclipse 3.7
Apk Manager
Notepad++
Adobe Reader
Windows Media Player (I know there's better, I use it because it's there...and only for music)
Nissan FAST 2001
(probably others as well)
Nissan FAST is a automotive program for part numbers and diagrams. My issue is it's 16bit. It runs on Windows 7 64 bit and XP 32 bit, but it won't run on Vista.
I need FAST to work and I don't like all Vista's bloat so a new OS is in order. 7 or XP was my original thought but I'm starting to use my PC more for messing with Android stuff, so maybe I can use my laptop for that instead of having to sit in front of my PC to get anything done.
It seems Ubuntu and Mint are the preferred Linux distros of Android devs.
So, what would you do?
Upgrade to 7?
Downgrade to XP?
Ubuntu/XP dual boot?
Ubuntu/7 dual boot?
Mint/XP dual boot?
Mint/7 dual boot?
There has to be a way around running dual boot just for FAST. Some Google time has shown that most of the others has Linux equivalents...Chromium, U7-Zip, The Gimp, Amarok, etc...
Thanks in advance and if this is the wrong forum, please feel free to place it elsewhere, Thanks!
I'm in the same boat minus the OS issue and the free part. I am buying a sony vaio. For watching movies with the girlfriend and theming/coding for android.
Still haven't decided whether or not I'll go with blackbuntu as my secondary OS.
Edit: I can suggest a Win7/ubuntu install as that is basically what I am going to be doing. Blackbuntu is just a hacker based distro and I use that to pen-test my network from time to time. lol
FAST is the deal-breaker...and a lean mean OS....I'm on the laptop now....Vista is definitely the fat angry sister of the Windows family...it makes me miss ME lol
Have you considered a VM player?
Run your preferred OS as your primary OS. Get VMWare Player (Free) and install it with your required OS for that NISSAN FAST application.
ubuntu/win 7 is the best, because we need a windows platform, but linux too. you install only teh essential programs, because the work will be fast and clear
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ubuntu/win 7 is the best, because we need a windows platform, but linux too. you install only teh essential programs, because the work will be fast and clear
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pretty much sums it up. windows 7 is gonna be the easiest os to just have work aand have all your programs and things in (plus it doesn't suck like vista), but it is also a good practice to keep Ubuntu installed for if you want to develop, fix windows, whatever you might need it for.
For the record I much prefer IntelliJ to eclipse, it feels a lot better and pretty much writes my code with all its shortcuts. works great on win7.
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albling said:
Have you considered a VM player?
Run your preferred OS as your primary OS. Get VMWare Player (Free) and install it with your required OS for that NISSAN FAST application.
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I will have to look into this....
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pretty much sums it up. windows 7 is gonna be the easiest os to just have work aand have all your programs and things in (plus it doesn't suck like vista), but it is also a good practice to keep Ubuntu installed for if you want to develop, fix windows, whatever you might need it for.
For the record I much prefer IntelliJ to eclipse, it feels a lot better and pretty much writes my code with all its shortcuts. works great on win7.
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IntelliJ...I'll check it out.
So, if I'm gonna run Windows 7....is dev really that much better in Ubuntu?
Dumb question....will my Disk from my PC install Windows 7 on the Laptop?
Windows 7 Pro/Ultimate gives you access to Windows Virtual PC and XP mode, so you effectively get an XP VM with it anyway, plus you can make your own. I use it for Gazillionaire Deluxe
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Windows 7 Pro/Ultimate gives you access to Windows Virtual PC and XP mode, so you effectively get an XP VM with it anyway, plus you can make your own. I use it for Gazillionaire Deluxe
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Looks like Windows 7/Ubuntu is the way to go.
I don't have 7 Ultimate, should Premium work?
TurboSE1980 said:
Looks like Windows 7/Ubuntu is the way to go.
I don't have 7 Ultimate, should Premium work?
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From memory it's just Professional and Ultimate. Could be wrong though
Looking for some advice on using this IMac
http://www.everymac.com/systems/app...20-inch-aluminum-early-2008-penryn-specs.html
with the One S/S4
I know nothing about Apple stuff, but my laptop is about shot and my son may give me his old IMac above. May be temporary or permanent, not sure. I have hboot below .13, so don't need to do much other than copy my sdcard files back and forth. Haven't used adb/fastboot for awhile. Know I need to get drivers reinstalled and believe I can use adb/fastboot with it. I assume same SDK I have (R15 I believe), which I could copy from an Acronis BackUp to IMac--maybe? Just need to use different linux commands. He is Apple thru and thru--and a Software Engineer, so learning to use adb/fastboot with IMac may not be a big deal.
I have seen Apple users here and on my old N1 forums post for help on command lines, so assume this may be only issue--??
Just curious on any tips/pros/cons on doing this, as he is in opposite end of state and no need to bring it all that way when they come down for Christmas, if the IMacs are more difficult to work with on this phone.
Thanks for any advice--
Ken
it doesnt really matter whether you're using mac or windows, if you're trying to run adb.
i used mac and adb, and its great. =)
What about dual-booting Windows on it?
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You can write/build android apps on the mac, but building kernels and especially android itself, I would use ubuntu in a virtual box.
If it is not maxed out on RAM (8G probably?) I would do that. It's not expensive and will help a lot when running a VM.
(I live in a macbook pro.)
usaff22 said:
What about dual-booting Windows on it?
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The only reason to run windows would be to run a RUU.
You can download adb and fastboot for mac, and you will never have 'wrong drivers'.
Appreciate all responses--been reading and found the imac adb/fastboot files and sdk if i want it.
Did see commands for basic stuff not really different.
Thought about dual booting, not sure if i have a windows copy of my current OS--Vista. Could restore my whole acronis backup to it on that partition i make. Got the latest Acronis that says it can restore to any hard drive--maybe will test that--
I am interested to try the imac as my phone is not connecting well thru usb and would like to see if it is the laptop--
rugmankc said:
Could restore my whole acronis backup to it on that partition i make. Got the latest Acronis that says it can restore to any hard drive--maybe will test that
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Don't think that would be a good idea best off doing a fresh install.
probably right--would like to try it with just the imac anyway
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probably right--would like to try it with just the imac anyway
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Good luck. Windows 7 not being too bad with change I think it have a better chance of working if the PC its from was Intel too. I have gone from Core Duo setup to a i5 setup without a format.
Like everyone been saying, you be fine. I have a macbook pro.. and use vmware fusion to do all my windows base apps.. but I've used virtualbox as well.. both do the job.. it is a little different but I think you will be fine.. Just make sure you have lots of ram on the iMac if your going to do a lot of windows apps.. since I use vmware fusion I use unity mode.. makes it look like i'm running windows apps on native osx.. its just windows os is "minimized" .. Have fun..
OK guys thanks--I will have my son bring it down for Christmas and give it a go. IMac for free=no brainer anyway--
[Cruzer] it has 2gb ram, what I have now--
I am not totally computer illiterate and son is pretty good--so i think this will work out fine for now. My space is limited so really need a laptop, but will see how this goes for now. Just had a 3800.00 transmission rebuild bill. So funds limited for a new laptop. Especially for one that I really want.
Appreciate all the inputs--will post how it goes--
Ken
i strongly suggest not to make it a dualboot.
mac runs on darwin which kinda a unix like based operating system.
if your goal is only using adb, you can just download the android-sdk.
they include an adb.
then use terminal to run adb.
terminal application is in your utilities applications.
its going to be a purely in command-line.
for example:
i downloaded android-sdk to my workspace in Documents folder.
adb is in platform-tools folder in the android-sdk.
run the adb command, it will shows the helps you need.
### copy paste from my terminal ###
ditto:~ ahartowo$ Documents/workspace/android-sdk/platform-tools/adb
Android Debug Bridge version 1.0.29
-d - directs command to the only connected USB device
returns an error if more than one USB device is present.
-e - directs command to the only running emulator.
returns an error if more than one emulator is running.
-s <serial number> - directs command to the USB device or emulator with
the given serial number. Overrides ANDROID_SERIAL
environment variable.
-p <product name or path> - simple product name like 'sooner', or
appreciate the input, probably won't dual boot--would like to try just the Imac OS, and go from there--
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OK guys thanks--I will have my son bring it down for Christmas and give it a go. IMac for free=no brainer anyway--
[Cruzer] it has 2gb ram, what I have now--
I am not totally computer illiterate and son is pretty good--so i think this will work out fine for now. My space is limited so really need a laptop, but will see how this goes for now. Just had a 3800.00 transmission rebuild bill. So funds limited for a new laptop. Especially for one that I really want.
Appreciate all the inputs--will post how it goes--
Ken
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Well the max stated by the page you linked states 4GB.. ram is cheap these days.
you can actually put 8GB in it. my imac is running 8GB. some says wants to upgrade to 16GB.
ahartowo said:
you can actually put 8GB in it. my imac is running 8GB. some says wants to upgrade to 16GB.
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hit my thanks limit but--thanks
with my 3800.00 transmission bill will hold off on any extra spending, kinda why my son is giving me the imac for now--with laptop near end
if i keep it long term, i will increase ram
ok so i got sdk setup and put virtuous rom back on phone for htc options
downloaded htc sync, which i thought would have drivers
imac connects but says it can't access storage
usb debug is checked, fastboot unchecked
did some googling for just the drivers, no luck
did i miss something simple
windows just comes up and starts to look for drivers when phone plugged in--
i don't care to actually sync anything just access sdcard
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ok so i got sdk setup and put virtuous rom back on phone for htc options
downloaded htc sync, which i thought would have drivers
imac connects but says it can't access storage
usb debug is checked, fastboot unchecked
did some googling for just the drivers, no luck
did i miss something simple
windows just comes up and starts to look for drivers when phone plugged in--
i don't care to actually sync anything just access sdcard
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Can't think of the name of it but the SD is done a different way in that rom so it not mass storage any more so maybe that way don't work on mac.
had no luck on aosp
yeah it has some networking choices, not the original htc sync choice
seems like i just don't have drivers that i thought sync manager would install
not sure
guess i will wait till tomorrow and let my son look at it--he knows the macs, i don't
but like i said the sync mgr does connect to phone just no storage access
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had no luck on aosp
yeah it has some networking choices, not the original htc sync choice
seems like i just don't have drivers that i thought sync manager would install
not sure
guess i will wait till tomorrow and let my son look at it--he knows the macs, i don't
but like i said the sync mgr does connect to phone just no storage access
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Hmm that sounds odd but ya can't really help on the mac side of things.
ok guys, i am up and running on the imac--problem mainly imac inexperience--son got me set up with some training--
he was out late with buddies last nite, so on my own till he got up today
phone mounts fine
transfering stuff from phone and laptop to imac while sons and daughter-in-law went to see Hobbit
thanks for all the inputs and where appropriate--happy holidays
I actually have 4gb ram