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[Idea] Android Dev system on USB Stick

As I installed rosie over the weekend I needed to put an ext2 partition on my card so used Gparted from a USB Stick. This got me thinking. I have seen people post in threads so often that they cant do ceratin mods at the moment as they are at work and dont have ADB. So I wondered if it were possible to have a usb booting version on Linux with the SDK installed and ADB setup that people could take anywhere with them and use on any available PC.
I have no idea how this would be implemented, just putting it out there for the more skilled amongst us.

I've been doing this using a "puppy linux live usb". I'm still fairly new to linux but shell and gparted work great. The whole linux is only ~100mb and doesn't modify the pc it's used on at all(tho you must be able to boot from usb). Good for those of us still learning linux. Don't know if this is what you were talking about exactly but hope it helps.

Puppy
Yup, Puppy is a cute and elegant solution - works out of the box!
Great thing. Works out of a usb no problem - just have to have a boot loader on the stick. Can recommend grub (easiest) or syslinux (can install on the usb out of xp)

Baldyman1966 said:
As I installed rosie over the weekend I needed to put an ext2 partition on my card so used Gparted from a USB Stick. This got me thinking. I have seen people post in threads so often that they cant do ceratin mods at the moment as they are at work and dont have ADB. So I wondered if it were possible to have a usb booting version on Linux with the SDK installed and ADB setup that people could take anywhere with them and use on any available PC.
I have no idea how this would be implemented, just putting it out there for the more skilled amongst us.
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yeah i have a 4gig running linux mint, including recognition for the phone when connected through usb, and full development platform, with working sdk... very handy when at work etc,

i was considering selling them on ebay but didnt think people would be intrested in such a thing

soulassasin101 said:
yeah i have a 4gig running linux mint, including recognition for the phone when connected through usb, and full development platform, with working sdk... very handy when at work etc,
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Would you be able to provide an image that others could use?

Baldyman1966 said:
Would you be able to provide an image that others could use?
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dunno mate its got a 3gig casper file so i can save to it and have plenty of room for saving what i need. if its possible to make an image of the whole thing then im sure i can upload it to a torrent site or something

Baldyman1966 said:
As I installed rosie over the weekend I needed to put an ext2 partition on my card so used Gparted from a USB Stick. This got me thinking. I have seen people post in threads so often that they cant do ceratin mods at the moment as they are at work and dont have ADB. So I wondered if it were possible to have a usb booting version on Linux with the SDK installed and ADB setup that people could take anywhere with them and use on any available PC.
I have no idea how this would be implemented, just putting it out there for the more skilled amongst us.
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This is actually a pretty good idea. Have eclipse, adb, everything and turn it into an .iso that would be sweet. Then Haykuro could work at school haha jk.

Hey why don't you guys use VirtualBox. It's free and it runs in windows. I use it all the time.

soulassasin101 said:
i was considering selling them on ebay but didnt think people would be intrested in such a thing
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wouldnt that violate terms and conditions of the sdk and whatever distro you use? legally all you would be able to charge for would be the cost of the flash drive, or Google might hunt you down. lol

yeah it is illegal to sell the software... id be selling my time, it did take two hours to set up and it would only be for the udb stick and my time, as i said im happy to contribute and upload if possible for free

Usually linux distros are re-distributable, but check the license.
The Android SDK license, OTOH, specifically prohibits you to "distribute any software or device incorporating a part of the SDK" regardless of whether you charge for it or not. That is, just charging for your time/materials would still go against the SDK license if the SDK was packaged in some sort of distribution.

I'll try to do this either with or without the sdk and if that is the case then add a tutorial on how to add it yourself so we don't break the laws
My first question is what linux distro would you like? I normally would use Ubuntu.

courious about linux.
Rafase282 said:
I'll try to do this either with or without the sdk and if that is the case then add a tutorial on how to add it yourself so we don't break the laws
My first question is what linux distro would you like? I normally would use Ubuntu.
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I would be interested to learn how considering my noob status........ I figure it would make modding my g1 a whole lot easir. Pm me or jus post to this thread. And I will use witch ever people think is the best because I have never used it.

I started with Ubuntu 9.04 since puppy can be installed on a usb from the live cd and should be faster and a matter of just installing the sdk and eclipse.
I have in mind to install gparted, eclipse, irc, and other programs. Any suggestion or help? let me know.

Okay first attepmt failed. Ubuntu didnt start the X, I may try to do it manually this time instead.

Okay I already have the Ubuntu 9.04 updated and with some softwared installed like banshee, lastfm, currently setting up and installing the sdk. But for this part is where I need help since I didnt use the emulator or anythign but the adb commnds.

you can do it with a 4-8GB USB2.0 and SLAX linux distro http://www.slax.org/
you can add modules, including gparted, then just copy your files to the USB

malaeus said:
you can do it with a 4-8GB USB2.0 and SLAX linux distro http://www.slax.org/
you can add modules, including gparted, then just copy your files to the USB
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I tried with this one but I can never get on internet wireless, I just dont know how to. For me is easier using gnome but kde I never get used to and for me configuration is just harder on it but i'll try.

ah, i dont normally use the net when i use slax. its mainly for fixing my phone, and ill have all my files needed on the stick. including my past nandroid backups.
also, i gotta find that thread, but i read a rumour of one of the dev's working on a way to reflash your nandroid backups from the recovery screen on the g1, which would be nice. kinda off topic, nice nontheless.

how to make a rom PART 1.5 (w/ and w/out virtualaztion)

THANK YOU JOHAN DE KONING
This will explain how to make your computer fast enough to run ubuntu (a form of Linux). And how to download the android package. This will take up 7 to 8 gb of space.
THIS IS FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT UBUNTU (NOT VIRTUAL AND NOT DUAL IF DON'T WANT TO BE)*This could delete windows if you didn't partion your hard drive right
NOT FOR NOOBS BE WARNED
Go to the ubunutu download page given below and download the 700 mb iso image file. Iso is a cd formatted file u can open it with a zip appclation(but don't). When it is finished I recommand getting a dvd but maybe it could fit on a cd.(*Note that you don't have to burn on to cd u could extract to decktop and run the setup manually.) Burn the ubuntu on to the cd/dvd and than restart your computer with the cd/dvd still in the computer's cd/dvd rom. When the computer goes to a blink screen and asks you if want to boot from cd/dvd press enter. And than from here on follow the instractions.
STEP 1 (CLEAN COMPUTER)
*Note: for performance do this in safe mode.
First we need to make your computer fast as possible. Create a backup just in case you want to back up something. So go to download.com and download Advanced SystemCare Free(7 -10 mb). After you have installed click on the CARE! button to get started. This could depend on your computer usage space the bigger the longer it will take. It will wipe all internet data. If you don't want that to happen just go to maintain windows and click on the Privacy Sweep box to uncheck. Than scan. Than go to utilities and run all the following Disk Check, Disk Cleaner and install Smart defrag. After installing Smart Defrag click start on all the options in this order defrag only, deep optimize, and fast optimize.
STEP 2: RESTART COMPUTER
After restarting go back to System FreeCare and run game booster(install). Click game mode and a pop up will show. Click the button on the left side of the box. Check all boxes but not explore. than go to game mode.
STEP 3: Download virtualbox(68 mb download)
You could have a dual if you want. The download page is http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads. Download the correct version. (windows= *VirtualBox 3.0.4 for Windows hosts x86/amd64). than install it.
Install Virtualbox(takes from 5-30 minutes depending on your computer)
Next>accept>next>next>next>yes>install>continue anyway(i got this like 6 times so...)>finish(i think)>cancel>new>Next>name=ubuntu>next>Next>Next>Next>Next>Next>
when u get to the virtual size thing move the bar to 7.5 gb (min). this should be a little extra space. Next>Finish>Next>
STEP 4: Download UBUNTU(700 mb)
DOWNLOAD PAGE http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download and choose the ftp. than begin downloading. After download save the file to desktop and DON'T DO ANYTHING. go to the VirtualBox and click CD/DVD-ROM. Check the box and also ISO IMAGE FILE after that and mount to that image on the desktop. THAN OK. press CTRL+ALT+DELETE. go to processes and end explore(for speed). Click Start.
PART 2
OK. START by running VirtualBox with the mount on the ISO ubuntu and than click start on the top right hand side. press enter to leave language than enter again to install ubuntu. on the top of the bar it may pause alot so go to machine and resume it. if it total doesn't work just exit and power down and reboot with explore.exe gone and also no windows up and running. and than just follow the instructions to installing it about 1 hour to 2 hours depending. Make sure that it is completely partation to the virtual drive. After like forever when u reach the main desktop go to app... terminal and make sure u knoe your password. Than type
The rest is here http://www.johandekoning.nl/index.php/2009/06/07/building-android-15-build-environment/. How to bulid the enviroment and getting the libs and other tools together. After all that run.
Sudo apt-get autoremove
Sudo apt-get autoclean
Than on Saturday and Sunday I will teach u how to make a rom.
There is a kernel problem with johan's idea I think I know what it is

Was going to wipe one of my computers anyway. This gives me a reason to stop procrastinating! Will give this a try. Waiting for part 2!

I know I will never get into rom making but it is very interesting to read about.
P.S. Make the paypal link a bit bigger, I can't read it

I already turned my back on windows so I run ubuntu so this is useless to me but I am waiting for part 2 so I can learn more about this, prob won't ever use it but it is good to knowhow to

Already running Mint in VB .. runs just great. I am interested in reading the ROM part though

WTF? Why do you need to do all of this crap on your computer to run Ubuntu? If I was going to dual boot with windows I would not use the stuff you listed. Why not just explain how to use it create a ROM and let people figure out how to get Ubuntu on their computer.

this seems more like spam, an advertisement for those products he listed. Any sensible person would not use virtual box to build android from source (problems you run into with the jvm running out of memory).
Besides, Johan already has a well posted blog about this:
http://www.johandekoning.nl/index.php/2009/06/07/building-android-15-build-environment/
but I would really recomend installing ubuntu through the windows installer (wubi) if you're a linux virgin, that way you don't risk anything in your windows partition, it's faster than virtualization, and eventually you'll drop windows once you learn how to use ubuntu at least.
Really, I think this is spam though.

jubeh said:
Really, I think this is spam though.
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I think you are right. I don't know if "part 2" is ever going to come, or if it will just be a copy/paste from the link you posted.

Wasn't it simpler to just install ubuntu as second os? If someone wants to dedicate himself to developement it would be better to have ubuntu not virtualized

jubeh said:
this seems more like spam, an advertisement for those products he listed. Any sensible person would not use virtual box to build android from source (problems you run into with the jvm running out of memory).
Besides, Johan already has a well posted blog about this:
http://www.johandekoning.nl/index.php/2009/06/07/building-android-15-build-environment/
but I would really recomend installing ubuntu through the windows installer (wubi) if you're a linux virgin, that way you don't risk anything in your windows partition, it's faster than virtualization, and eventually you'll drop windows once you learn how to use ubuntu at least.
Really, I think this is spam though.
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I am not sure if you have ever tried virtual box but it is quite responsive and seems too run better than wubi. I am sure it depends somewhat on the system a person is running, but with a quad and 4 gb of ram VB runs very well. While I have a dual boot with Ubuntu , I have still found it easier to do my android stuff in it's own virtual space. With a dedicated 75gb I can use it seamlessly with my Windows 7 install. You should try it it really works very well and I have had no memory problems at all and have manged to build from source without any difficulty whatsoever. My Ubuntu install stays clean and I can mess with my virtual Mint install as much as I like without ever affecting my Ubuntu partition.

Personally I have Ubuntu on a Prtition of My portable drive,which means I can boot it up anywhere (so long as the computer can USB Boot). I shall certainly be following the original info. The same guy has posted many good Android Articles.
As for the OP here, he only really needed to post a link, not copy the whole thing.

pixel-painter said:
I am not sure if you have ever tried virtual box but it is quite responsive and seems too run better than wubi. I am sure it depends somewhat on the system a person is running, but with a quad and 4 gb of ram VB runs very well. While I have a dual boot with Ubuntu , I have still found it easier to do my android stuff in it's own virtual space. With a dedicated 75gb I can use it seamlessly with my Windows 7 install. You should try it it really works very well and I have had no memory problems at all and have manged to build from source without any difficulty whatsoever. My Ubuntu install stays clean and I can mess with my virtual Mint install as much as I like without ever affecting my Ubuntu partition.
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Almost everything runs well with quad processors and 4GB of RAM. Oracle 10g runs well with that hardware. So that isn't saying much.

miketaylor00 said:
Oracle 10g runs well with that hardware. So that isn't saying much.
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ha! this bit gave me a chuckle.
I freaking hate Oracle. I run a bunch of dbms' & 95% of my headaches come from them.

I prefer dual-booting, personally. I just started messing around with ubuntu (about 6 months maybe) and i love it, after using ubuntu i fully hate Windows Vista and all its sparkly, money-making horse-****. So now i have ubuntu and Windows both running smoothly on a compaq presario f700 laptop, and the only thing i really use my windows partition (i know thats not the correct technical terminology, just pay attention to the story) for is, well, basically just theming, and media storage. I use photoshop, and havent bothered to try using GIMP very much yet, and so i do all my theming (which isnt much really) in windows, which is where i also already have the autosign tools and draw9patch and other such things setup...and then all my music, pictures, whatever are all on my fat32 partition, and can all be accessed from either OS. aside from that, my computer boots into ubuntu by default. so if im using my computer, im doin it the ubuntu way, unless i NEED to use windows, for something like photoshop, and thats about it.
So long story short...(like its not already to late for that) im eagerly awaiting part 2 cuz ive been hitting some roadblocks...hope it helps!
-BMFC

mohsinkhan47 said:
Please donate and help me get a good ubuntu desktop from the case to the motherboard. Please donat.
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I'll get right on that. Is $500 enough?

miketaylor00 said:
Almost everything runs well with quad processors and 4GB of RAM. Oracle 10g runs well with that hardware. So that isn't saying much.
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Ok Granted u are right about that and so it should.
But assuming I am not the only person with a quad and 4 gb of RAM, this may work just as well for others too. As as a relative newb with Linux, I can honestly say I have killed a few installations of Linux on my Hard Drive by breaking packages and other things that prevent it from working properly. Sometimes it is easier for me to reinstall the whole thing because I lack the knowledge to fix it.... in comes Virtual Box. I can totally screw it up as much as I want and my Linux partition on my hd remains intact with no errors.

pixel-painter said:
I am not sure if you have ever tried virtual box but it is quite responsive and seems too run better than wubi. I am sure it depends somewhat on the system a person is running, but with a quad and 4 gb of ram VB runs very well. While I have a dual boot with Ubuntu , I have still found it easier to do my android stuff in it's own virtual space. With a dedicated 75gb I can use it seamlessly with my Windows 7 install. You should try it it really works very well and I have had no memory problems at all and have manged to build from source without any difficulty whatsoever. My Ubuntu install stays clean and I can mess with my virtual Mint install as much as I like without ever affecting my Ubuntu partition.
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I do have virtualbox running on my linux box, my laptop's ubuntu side, and my laptop's win7 side. I also have a third computer that I have loaded with windows vista for the computer illiterate people in my house and a tiny dell mini 9 that I bought god-knows-why.
My main computer (since I can take it anywhere and my linux box i use mainly as a file server) is a gateway fx p-7805u. I won't have you google the specs, it's a 2.27 Ghz core 2 duo, 4 gb of ram, 320 gb main hard drive (plus I tossed a slow 5400 rpm 500 gb hd for files), so yeah, I can run virtualbox, but I mainly use it for running micro-xp on it for whatever else I need it.
I've used vb before like i said even configuring the vm with dual core support but there's no way it's as fast as a native system.
Anyway, wubi is not virtualization. It's an actual, loop-mounted image file/partition that fully utilizes the hardware it runs on. It's exactly the same as running a dual-booted system through partitioning, the only difference is that the ubuntu filesystem exists inside your ntfs partition rather than it's own partition, this has the effect of having a very slight hit on disk performance (much less than virtualization though), but everything else is running natively, even drivers. It's entirely safe for your host file-system and can be removed leaving no residual files anywhere on your system. It's also easy to share files with your host computer (with vb you have to set up a network share and then edit your /etc/init.d/rc.local to have it automount on startup, with wubi, it automatically creates a link to the host filesystem located at /host).
I've had to leave my computer building on vb overnight and then I come back to find that the process is stuck at some dex or java compilation, with an actual running system, this doesn't happen.
Give it a try, it costs nothing.

mohsinkhan47 said:
U guys are evil
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Wow thanks! I really appreciate your work and considering donating to you. Since you make your paypal link so large, it really inspires me to donate.
Thanks again!
edit: (hope this post isn't considered to be spam like the original post is)

Better if you do
sudo apt-get autoremove --purge

jubeh said:
I do have virtualbox running on my linux box, my laptop's ubuntu side, and my laptop's win7 side. I also have a third computer that I have loaded with windows vista for the computer illiterate people in my house and a tiny dell mini 9 that I bought god-knows-why.
My main computer (since I can take it anywhere and my linux box i use mainly as a file server) is a gateway fx p-7805u. I won't have you google the specs, it's a 2.27 Ghz core 2 duo, 4 gb of ram, 320 gb main hard drive (plus I tossed a slow 5400 rpm 500 gb hd for files), so yeah, I can run virtualbox, but I mainly use it for running micro-xp on it for whatever else I need it.
I've used vb before like i said even configuring the vm with dual core support but there's no way it's as fast as a native system.
Anyway, wubi is not virtualization. It's an actual, loop-mounted image file/partition that fully utilizes the hardware it runs on. It's exactly the same as running a dual-booted system through partitioning, the only difference is that the ubuntu filesystem exists inside your ntfs partition rather than it's own partition, this has the effect of having a very slight hit on disk performance (much less than virtualization though), but everything else is running natively, even drivers. It's entirely safe for your host file-system and can be removed leaving no residual files anywhere on your system. It's also easy to share files with your host computer (with vb you have to set up a network share and then edit your /etc/init.d/rc.local to have it automount on startup, with wubi, it automatically creates a link to the host filesystem located at /host).
I've had to leave my computer building on vb overnight and then I come back to find that the process is stuck at some dex or java compilation, with an actual running system, this doesn't happen.
Give it a try, it costs nothing.
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Thanks for the info... now I know you have a lot of computers in your household But seriously, I am not trying to put anyone's opinion down here... so there is no need to be quite so elitist I am just pointing out my own experiences with Virtual Box which have been very good. If it doesn't work for you... fine.. but you are suggesting to everyone else that it doesn't work properly or well and I can quite definitively say that yes it does.. and very well too.
I would imagine that your system from what you say may not be powerful enough to handle it as well... so maybe a quad is needed to make it run the way it does for me, I don't profess to know the answer... only that it works great on my system.. it is not slow.... does not have errors and compiles Android source quite easily using Mint Linux (another Debian based Linux Distro for those that are unfamiliar with it)
I don't think I ever mentioned it was as fast as a native system... all I am saying is that it runs well and for a noob it can be run without messing anything else up as it runs in it's own little environment.

Any linux (ubuntu) users with success?

Hi again guys!
Ever since the ATT update usb connecting to the phone in ubuntu is sporadic and unreliable. I can usually get my photos off of it. Sometime I can even get into a non-root basic filesystem as well
However this isn't my main problem. I want to root the phone and install custom ROM's etc... Tried the VMware and a version of windows and installed the samsung drivers to XP but have trouble (again) with the usb and VMware.
Any help would be appreciated.
Additionally I'm pretty pissed off about the update thing. I don't care about tethering per se but that underhanded **** is why I dumped microsoft in the first place. I'll dump ATT too and spend my money elsewhere.

maskvp said:
Hi again guys!
Ever since the ATT update usb connecting to the phone in ubuntu is sporadic and unreliable. I can usually get my photos off of it. Sometime I can even get into a non-root basic filesystem as well
However this isn't my main problem. I want to root the phone and install custom ROM's etc... Tried the VMware and a version of windows and installed the samsung drivers to XP but have trouble (again) with the usb and VMware.
Any help would be appreciated.
Additionally I'm pretty pissed off about the update thing. I don't care about tethering per se but that underhanded **** is why I dumped microsoft in the first place. I'll dump ATT too and spend my money elsewhere.
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Linux user here. I haven't had the problems you describe. I have lately been using ES File Explorer to copy to and from a shared folder on my desktop. avoiding the USB for file transfers all together. when I do connect via USB I usually use ' adb push' and 'adb pull' to move files around.
To Root your phone there is an 'update.zip' method that I used (no computer needed)
There is also a tool called ClockworkMod Recovery that you can use to install custom rom's and create nandroid backups. (no computer needed)
And finally if you manage to screw up and can not boot, you can use Heimdall on linux like you would use Odin on Windows.
enjoy your phone...
-p

Thank-you so much!!!
I was thinking about exactly what you wrote. Why not do it the linux way? Admittedly my skills are weak.
Had a little trouble with the update.zip but went to the wiki (again) and the info on how to do it from the phone was there. BTW the wiki has improved since last week.
Rooted phone and installed Titanium Backup and Clockwork Recovery. In my excitement I deleted all the ATT bloatware before backing them up and the ROM. Oh well... Too bad.
Now I just feel great about my phone. Needs some customization but no hurry. Only thing was that TB prompted me to go to settings/applications/ and tick "unknown sources". Doesn't exist.
Thanks again! If you have anymore nuggets of info...?

linux newb here but i try
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the phone can mount to a vm in dowload mode for use with odin or in kies mtp mode as long as debugging is off, otherwise it likes to mount to the host pc as a drive, i dont know a work around but you can make the phone a shared folder with the vm client so you can see the files in the vm, it'll be seen as a network location in that case.
it can mount as a drive in linux but you need to select to mount from the phone. i was having problems with it in eclair in windows and didnt try it in linux but froyo is working great. in eclair it may help to try with debugging on then you can mount from the notification bar.

maskvp said:
Rooted phone and installed Titanium Backup and Clockwork Recovery. In my excitement I deleted all the ATT bloatware before backing them up and the ROM. Oh well... Too bad.
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I did that also...
maskvp said:
Now I just feel great about my phone. Needs some customization but no hurry. Only thing was that TB prompted me to go to settings/applications/ and tick "unknown sources". Doesn't exist.
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To enable side loading(unknown sources). I used method 5 from this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738376
and here is a link to my comments on the method later in the thread regarding some punctuation corrections.
This method uses adb from the SDK to pull the settings.db file off and edit it using sqlite3 before pushing it back on.
I believe you can edit the file directly on your phone once you have root and install a terminal app from the marketplace.
The above forum post is also in the wiki you referenced previously. basically you want to look for methods to "enable side loading"
-p

I'm using Ubuntu and have had no problems. Rooted and removed market restrictions without a hitch.

In progress upgrading to 10.10 64bit. Will see, but right now my machine sees my phone but it won't mount. Though I haven't tried to force it.

maskvp said:
In progress upgrading to 10.10 64bit. Will see, but right now my machine sees my phone but it won't mount. Though I haven't tried to force it.
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On the phone I leave my usb settings set to ask on connection. And then chose 'mass storage' when it asks. It then mounts /sdcard as an external drive. (make sure you haven't left usb debuging on)

pietro_spina said:
On the phone I leave my usb settings set to ask on connection. And then chose 'mass storage' when it asks. It then mounts /sdcard as an external drive. (make sure you haven't left usb debuging on)
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Oh I've tried it all-wichaways! That hasn't worked either. The card(s) are seen but no longer mount like they used to. When I choose media player I get this message on the phone: PC connection only available in idle screen. Close all running applications. I think something may be corrupted on the phone.
Before I start flashing anything I'm going to give 10.10 a go. Ubuntu specifies that 10.10 plays nice with Android. Unfortunately, I'm having trouble with my startup disks and have wasted three of them on three different downloads. Won't fully boot. Unfortunately, I've had this experience before with other releases, and it almost always was something being wrong with the .iso that was downloaded. Even tried a usb startup and same experience.
Woes. PITA!

maskvp said:
I've had this experience before with other releases, and it almost always was something being wrong with the .iso that was downloaded. Even tried a usb startup and same experience.
Woes. PITA!
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Make sure you burn your disks at a slow speed. Like 4x. Also try downloading over a stable wired connection. Use the md5 tool to check your download and your burn. If you can figure out when it is getting corrupt you have a fighting chance.

Reporting back. Finally got 10.10 to boot from a usb flashdrive by disabling the BootParameters. I guess 10.10 is so cutting edge my 2.5 yo toshiba can't boot it easily.
Reinstalled 10.04 without a hitch and since I didn't format my /home still kept everything. But I tried connecting by usb before any updates. No worky. And not after the 256M of updates either.
It's the phone I'm sure. Not really keen on flashing the ROM yet just to fix this. Recollection is that Samsung didn't put a good effort into this part of the phone. But I think again..
Why not eschew the usb for file transfers? I've got Bluetooth and wifi right here. Who needs clunky old usb? Adhoc network?
Ideas? Wifi would be easiest since my laptop doesn't have Bluetooth.

maskvp said:
Ideas? Wifi would be easiest since my laptop doesn't have Bluetooth.
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I think I mentioned in an earlier post that I use an app called ES File Explorer (free in the market) to navagate to a shared folder on my desktop.
My (samba) shared folder has no restrictions and works well. Only issue is I have to fix ownership and permissions on things copied over to the computer from the phone. If you choose to password protect yours let me know how that works out for you.

pietro_spina said:
I think I mentioned in an earlier post that I use an app called ES File Explorer (free in the market) to navagate to a shared folder on my desktop.
My (samba) shared folder has no restrictions and works well. Only issue is I have to fix ownership and permissions on things copied over to the computer from the phone. If you choose to password protect yours let me know how that works out for you.
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OK thanks. I'm going to investigate this. I take it ESFE works over the 3g connection as long as the host (my laptop) is connected to the internet?

maskvp said:
OK thanks. I'm going to investigate this. I take it ESFE works over the 3g connection as long as the host (my laptop) is connected to the internet?
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It supports FTP for sure. I'm no security expert but I doubt its a good idea to share a samba share over the internet.
If you want remote access to you desktop there are secure methods for that. The method I would choose would depend on my desire/need for a remote connection.
If I just want to access my shared folder I would probably set up a VPN connection and then use ES FileExplorer.
To fully control the computer, use VNC or other "remote desktop" application.

Been reading up on Samba. It is the linux way lol. Also, I went and got a Bluetooth micro-adapter. Installed drivers from the repository.
Transferred some pics and music back and forth. All GUI based. Worked first time. I'm still this side of the learning curve but my base needs are met.
The Bluetooth works great but I'd like to learn a bit more about the wifi. Seems to me one should be able to move files with a VPN via the wireless adapters and no router. I just lack the knowledge and skill to do it.
But thanks for reminding me about the ES FileExplorer! As far as the permissions in Ubuntu for the shared folder I just checked the box under right-click- sharing options allow others to create and delete files from this folder. I think that works.

Installing Linux on a PC Using Inspire

Ok, so I know that this phone can be used as a USB drive. I'm trying to install Linux on my computer, but I don't have a CD or USB drive available other than my phone. Would it be possible to install Linux using my phone?
Thanks

You would need to figure out a way for the computer to read the phones SD card as an ISO which can be done on a standard SD card using Unetbootin or something similar. However if you put it into the phone the phone itself may not see it as a usable drive and want to format it.

+1 for Unetbootin, it makes the drive bootable. However older versions would format the drive first... I think the newer versions don't, but don't hold me to that. Also it installs to the root directory of the drive so it would suck to remove it later.

No CD drive? Are you using a "slim" laptop?
If you have a floppy drive, you could do the "oooold school" install with 40+ floppies, ha ha ha.
If you have access to a second PC, couldn't you network 'em via an ethernet cross-over cable (or hub) and install over the network?

I'm gonna recommend going and buying a $10 thumb drive.
Then, as long as you're running Linux anyway, I'm gonna shamelessly plug Fuduntu.

ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
Then, as long as you're running Linux anyway, I'm gonna shamelessly plug Fuduntu.
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What ever happened to RedHat? Is it still around these days?

At risk of total thread derailment:
Red Hat still sponsors the community development of Fedora and actively deveopes and supports RHEL (RedHat Enterprise Linux).
Fuduntu is a Fedora spin, for which I'm a dev (very junior though I may be).

zuriken said:
What ever happened to RedHat? Is it still around these days?
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Its still around- a popular distro of it is fedora- it just seems most people, especially working with android go debian based instead of anything else like rpm(redhat)
Edit- and I should have refreshed the page before I responded.

di11igaf said:
Its still around- a popular distro of it is fedora- it just seems most people, especially working with android go debian based instead of anything else like rpm(redhat)
Edit- and I should have refreshed the page before I responded.
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Fedora 14 user here.

Returning to the original idea
Well, maybe you could format your card with one of the tools Linux provides to create bootable USB drives.
The problem starts when you turn on your computer to boot from the drive, as you would have to force your phone to USB drive mode and I'm not sure if the detection process will be fast enough so the PC catches the phone as a pen drive.
However, if you have no other choice at the moment (when I formatted a netbook I preffered to buy a 8GB pendrive and forget about any other trouble) you might give it a try. If it works please post back...

[Q] 3.1 Root on OSX

I've tried everything, are people who use OSX left behind? I can't root and I want to! Is there a solution?

Well I can only speak from little experience with rooting but it seems that you either have to use Boot Camp to install Windows on a partition on your HDD or either using VMWare or some other VM program to install windows on your mac.
Either way it is sad that we have to install that POS Operating System.
I agree with you though.....we should not be left in the dark because we run a superior Operating System rather than Windows.

dwnload windows 7 ISO(100% legal as Microsoft has download links), create small partition and install windows 7. This will give u a 30 day trial. Root it, then delete the windows partition once you boot back into osx
Or try vmware player and see if you can send through the USB device
Btw wrong section, this is a general question

chatch15117 said:
dwnload windows 7 ISO(100% legal as Microsoft has download links), create small partition and install windows 7. This will give u a 30 day trial. Root it, then delete the windows partition once you boot back into osx
Or try vmware player and see if you can send through the USB device
Btw wrong section, this is a general question
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LOL woops I thought this was general *is a space case* and I can't install win7 because as of the moment I can only use my mom's OSX computer. I'll just have to wait until I can fix my windows computer.

Digiguest said:
I agree with you though.....we should not be left in the dark because we run a superior Operating System rather than Windows.
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LOL
OT: I'm a computer programmer by trade, and I recently had to port some code I originally programmed in Windows to OSX, and I can tell you that OSX is one of THE least intuitive interfaces I have ever worked with, and I have various flavors of Linux/Ubuntu running at home as well. It's like they are trying to be different just to be "not Windows." Resizing a window using ONLY one corner? WTF is that? Fast switching only between running programs and being f'ed if said program is running multiple windows and the window you want is behind another one who's "resizing corner" is off to the side? Again, WTF?
You basically have to be completely bought in to their dumbed down interface to be comfortable with it.
Anywho.

carrrnuttt said:
LOL
OT: I'm a computer programmer by trade, and I recently had to port some code I originally programmed in Windows to OSX, and I can tell you that OSX is one of THE least intuitive interfaces I have ever worked with, and I have various flavors of Linux/Ubuntu running at home as well. It's like they are trying to be different just to be "not Windows." Resizing a window using ONLY one corner? WTF is that? Fast switching only between running programs and being f'ed if said program is running multiple windows and the window you want is behind another one who's "resizing corner" is off to the side? Again, WTF?
You basically have to be completely bought in to their dumbed down interface to be comfortable with it.
Anywho.
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+1

Yea, I'm gonna close this. Desktop OS flame war doesn't have anything to do with phones.