On my iPhone I just restored after jailbreaking and Apple were non the wiser, but if I take S OFF HTC will know will they not? I don't want to screw my warranty.
if you use alpharevX to s-off you will be able to restore it to s-on again soon
but right now you cant do that
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Hi All.
Quick question, I have rooted my sensation and s-off'ed, sweet.
Here is me question, what happens if our friends at HTC update the part that made the s-off possible? Will we get the updates or will only the users who did not tinker with the firmware get them?
Cheers folks.
HTC has stated that there new HTC-DEV site will be where you will be able to S-off your device, its not gonna come in an OTA push, IMO revolutionary has got us S-off, so who care what HTC has coming for S-off....its a little late, besides if you S-off with HTC they want to document who is S-offing their devices.......eff em and just enjoy your no strings attached S-off.
Number 1...It is never a good idea to take an OTA on your phone if you have it rooted.
Number 2...OTA's may contain patches to exploits that were used to obtain s-off.
Number 3...OTA's may or may not s-on your phone depending on how the devs obtained s-off in the first place.
Moral of the story is if you want to maintain root never OTA
i own a sensation device
if i use this revolutionary tool to s-off, recovery and root, is it possible to s-on later? (e.g. to give my phone to htc service to be in warranty)
If i just use the ruuxxxxxx.exe for my device to put the official rom , the phone will be s-on again? or is there any other way?
and wht about official OTA updates? how is going to be achieved?
There is a way to to gain s-on again but it's risky atm. Look for the guide in the stickies in the development forum.
You will not get an OTA on a rooted custom ROM.. end of story!!
So enjoy
emm_stra said:
i own a sensation device
if i use this revolutionary tool to s-off, recovery and root, is it possible to s-on later? (e.g. to give my phone to htc service to be in warranty)
If i just use the ruuxxxxxx.exe for my device to put the official rom , the phone will be s-on again? or is there any other way?
and wht about official OTA updates? how is going to be achieved?
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Yes it is possible to make you device s-on again just be sure to follow everything to the letter and don't screw up. Also why would you want to. If anything permanently root it and stick with that.
HTC Sensation Stock Perm_Rooted 4.3.3
HTC Sensation Stock Perm_Rooted 4.3.3
Bobguy21 said:
Yes it is possible to make you device s-on again just be sure to follow everything to the letter and don't screw up. Also why would you want to. If anything permanently root it and stick with that.
HTC Sensation Stock Perm_Rooted 4.3.3
HTC Sensation Stock Perm_Rooted 4.3.3
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thank you
what about the other questions???
Sorry it took so long you cannot update when rooted. Because of clockworkmod recovery. But just install a stock bases ROM the has the update like I did. hope this helps.
HTC Sensation LeeDroid 2.3.4 Perm_Rooted
Hi, will be revolutionary team work on the update? Or is some other easy way how to make the S-OFF?
HTC Desire S
S-ON
HBOOT 2.00.0002
See the thread to downgrade hboot. Then it will be easier
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Sent from my HTC Desire S
Yes, but if I want downgrade HBOOT, I must break my warranty with official HTCDev tool. I don't want break warranty. Is other way? Will revolutionary work on new version?
Revolutionary wont work unless you downgrade (for now)....
Revolutionary will break warranty aswell...
spajdo said:
Yes, but if I want downgrade HBOOT, I must break my warranty with official HTCDev tool. I don't want break warranty. Is other way? Will revolutionary work on new version?
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If you want to S-off in the first place, you lose warranty.
If you don't want to lose warranty, why bother trying to S-off?
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yes, revolutionary break warranty, but is here a thread to S-ON and unroot. And if I break warranty with HTCDev.... they (HTC) know that my device was S-OFF.
I want try CUSTOM ROM but If my phone will be broken I want apply waranty service.
i found a way to downgrade without using HTCDEV Unlock
see Desire S General Forum, there is a howto!!!
Hey man, before S-OFF, why we should do unlock bootloader via htcdev? (my hboot is 1.27.000)
What is the purpose to do that?
Can you explain this for me?
Thanks..
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium
the first version of doing S-OFF requires htcdev unlock but the second one does not require
if you do not want to use htcdev unlock method for doing S-OFF method after see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661631
he was refering more to the purpose of HTC Dev unlocking i guess
this is what i found but it is outdated (2009) dunno whether something has changed or not, so maby some nerds can explain further for him
DigitalPioneer said:
OK, about sixteen million posts have been flying back and forth about what you can do with root, can't do, what S-OFF is, is not... So I'm going to try to clear it all up for you, OK?
ROOT means you have full control over the OS. From the OS, you can write to the recovery partition. Without root, the only way to write recovery is through hboot, which will only let you flash a custom recovery if you have S-OFF. But even with S-ON, you can write recovery from the OS if you have root. Then, with a custom recovery, you can write the hboot with an engineering bootloader, which has S-OFF. This way, you get S-OFF without a warranty-voiding watermark.
S-OFF means you can flash a custom recovery or ROM from hboot. Things you could already do with root, except that it's hard to get root while S-ON. But if you get it, you're set.
HTC says they'll ship an update which sets S-OFF, and then we're set, except their update will almost assuredly drop a watermark and void the warranty.
ANALOGY: Say the phone is a fortress, and you're trying to get in. S-ON means the gate is shut. If you root it with S-ON, you do it with an exploit, so you find a weak spot in the wall and pack it full of C4 and BOOM, you're in. S-OFF means they opened the gate from the inside, and you just walked in. Either way (S-OFF or root) you're in.
SUMMARY: With S-OFF, you get everything. With root, you get everything. End of story.
Final comment: rooting with S-ON means you used an exploit. Exploits are bad!! But HTC is forcing us to resort to such brutish, nasty means (blowing up walls to the fortress) because they locked the gate before selling us the place. We have a right to get inside, but they aren't opening the gate, so we have to get in some other way. Remember, if you can blow up the wall and walk in, a malicious program can do so too. Exploits are bad, and HTC should patch them. But let's get some legitimate use out of them first, ehhh?
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Okay, So I'm fairly new to all this. I've made several (unsuccessful) attempts at rooting my AT&T HOX, but I finally think I know where I went wrong.
In the past, I had tried unlocking the bootloader without having SuperCID access. (So yes, I currently have s-on..) Mainly due to the fact that I didn't know I needed sim access to root.
Because of these past issues, I have done the ATT OTA update.. From what I have read in other posts, correct me if I'm wrong, there is currently no way to gain SuperCID with the 5.18 update..
Other than waiting, is there any way I could go about rooting my phone? Is it possible to reset to factory settings, and go back to Original software?
Please help. Would eventually love to get rid of all the ATT and HTC crap on my phone.. (can't stand sense 5..)
Android version - 4.2.2
HTC Sense version - 5.0
Software number 5.18.502.1
Evita PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT - 2.18.0000
Radio - 1.35a.32.45.27
OpenDSP-v33.1.0.45.1128
eMMC-boot
Because you've taken the latest at&t update there is no way at all to get SuperCID so you can unlock your bootloader. You'll have to wait and see whether a dev deems it worth his time to find a crack, but I wouldn't hold your breathe if I was you. Probably should have done your research before taking the update.
Sent from my Evita
tsunami560 said:
Okay, So I'm fairly new to all this. I've made several (unsuccessful) attempts at rooting my AT&T HOX, but I finally think I know where I went wrong.
In the past, I had tried unlocking the bootloader without having SuperCID access. (So yes, I currently have s-on..) Mainly due to the fact that I didn't know I needed sim access to root.
Because of these past issues, I have done the ATT OTA update.. From what I have read in other posts, correct me if I'm wrong, there is currently no way to gain SuperCID with the 5.18 update..
Other than waiting, is there any way I could go about rooting my phone? Is it possible to reset to factory settings, and go back to Original software?
Please help. Would eventually love to get rid of all the ATT and HTC crap on my phone.. (can't stand sense 5..)
Android version - 4.2.2
HTC Sense version - 5.0
Software number 5.18.502.1
Evita PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT - 2.18.0000
Radio - 1.35a.32.45.27
OpenDSP-v33.1.0.45.1128
eMMC-boot
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1. I'm not are of a root for this new firmware (as Timmaaa has stated).
2. I'm not sure why you chose to get the OTA update if you can't stand HTC and Sense. Any time you grab an update from A&T, you're risking not being able to root
3. I recommend you purchase a Google phone and root/mod it as much as you want. No more HTC, No More ATT, No more Sense.
DanGeorges said:
1. I'm not are of a root for this new firmware (as Timmaaa has stated).
2. I'm not sure why you chose to get the OTA update if you can't stand HTC and Sense. Any time you grab an update from A&T, you're risking not being able to root
3. I recommend you purchase a Google phone and root/mod it as much as you want. No more HTC, No More ATT, No more Sense.
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Hey Dan,
Thanks for the reply. I got the OTA because I like new. I didn't really think about it when I did it, so yea, it was a dumb mistake on my part.
I only got HTC, because it was my introduction to Android. I now have a rooted N7, and I love it. I would also love to get an N5, however, it's a good chunk of money I don't have currently, which is why I will be rooting my HOX once a root is available.
So, is anyone aware of a way to roll back an OTA update? Or is my best bet waiting for a 5.18 exploit?
Like I said, there is absolutely no way for you to get root unless someone releases an exploit.
Sent from my Evita
tsunami560 said:
So, is anyone aware of a way to roll back an OTA update? Or is my best bet waiting for a 5.18 exploit?
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If such a thing were possible, than a new exploit would not be necessary, and we would have told you about it already.
You can't "rollback" or revert to previous Android versions unless already rooted, s-off, etc.
What are the pro's and con's of each? What do I need S-Off for other than firmware updates?
I'm not a developer, so all my flashing/unlocking etc. just comes from reading directions. If I don't need to S-Off i won't because I wouldn't want the increased risk if I dont need to.
Back in the days of the HTC Rezound, i could do everything S-On, the only thing was S-Off would make things easier bc you wouldn't need a PC to flash a ROM
gleggie said:
What are the pro's and con's of each? What do I need S-Off for other than firmware updates?
I'm not a developer, so all my flashing/unlocking etc. just comes from reading directions. If I don't need to S-Off i won't because I wouldn't want the increased risk if I dont need to.
Back in the days of the HTC Rezound, i could do everything S-On, the only thing was S-Off would make things easier bc you wouldn't need a PC to flash a ROM
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Right now VZW blocks bootloader unlocks via HTC dev. So you cannot unlock and root.
Right now on 4.4.4 no temp root tool/exploit exists in the wild.
Fire water will not work on 4.4.4.
Fire water will work on SOME 4.4.3 devices.
Fire water will not be continued.
Sunshine will work on ALL 4.4.3 devices.
Sunshine will be updated to work on 4.4.4
Sunshine unlocks and S-off's in one shot. Allowing you to be able to upgrade/downgrade firmware and also repair your phone more easily if you mess up.