[Q] Noob question about ROMS. - HTC Sensation

I have a stock Sensation 4G(T-Mo) and I was wondering when the bootloader gets unlocked and custom ROMs are made, would using one speed up/save battery life on my phone? Also would it take away Sense entirely(I'm fine with it, but i like the widgets and the weather effects,drop menu with the settings). Also can I still use WiFi caling? Thanks

northcutt1023 said:
I have a stock Sensation 4G(T-Mo) and I was wondering when the bootloader gets unlocked and custom ROMs are made, would using one speed up/save battery life on my phone? Also would it take away Sense entirely(I'm fine with it, but i like the widgets and the weather effects,drop menu with the settings). Also can I still use WiFi caling? Thanks
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There are going to be several custom roms released once we get s-off. Some of them with sense and some without. You can choose whatever suits you and if you don't like it you can just change it. That's the magic of XDA..

Thanks, that's what I thought but wasn't 100% sure on.

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New to Sensation HELP!

Hi guys,
going to get a HTC Sensation today, played with it in a store and its basic functions appeal to me more than Galaxy S2.
Ok the S2 had that extra bit of "snappiness" about, the Sensation felt heavier both in physical weight and response
Anyway, couple of questions:
- can i remove any of the 7 homescreens?
- any guaranteed way to increase the snappiness/response on stock ROM?
- can i remove any apps i don't need (used system app remover on my old SGS1)?
THanks!
1. No. You can use a different launcher
2. Yes, custom ROMs and/or overclock
3. Yes, but you need root
¤Violets are red,
Roses are blue,
Wait, what?¤
In short: yes to all of the above.
You would mainly resort to install custom ROMs.
The first ROM I tried was Senseless 2.5 and the phone visibly flies. YMMV. Feel free to browse around!
Even if you don't want custom ROMs, you can still just root and remove the apps yourself (read a bit before removing apps that may break Sense)
edit: Sorry, misread the first question. As idavid_ said, to edit the homescreens just use a different launcher. If you want it to be fast and customizable, try ADW.Launcher
thanks for the replies!
senseless certainly seems quick probably because it doesn't have....sense?
but sense 3.0 is one of the main reasons i got the HTC and i would like to keep and use it...i'm not a fan of quadrant benchmarks and dont really care about numbers but if i can make the phone a bit quicker what ROM do you recommend?
i usually look first at the ROMs that have most replies/views and that seems to be Revolution HD...which theoretically means it has the largest user base right?
last but not least i'm waiting for it to charge above 35% so i can install the 2.3.4 OTA update...maybe that's a bit snappier than 2.3.3 it came with...
oh couple of things:
-can i just update weather without having to use location services all the time?
-the HTC unlock site seems to list the Sensation as supported for bootloader unlock...should i do it? would this make rooting & installing custom ROMs easier?
- does any of the custom ROMs include the new "enhanced" camera apk&profiles that allow up to 40mbps bitrates?
zerozoneice said:
thanks for the replies!
senseless certainly seems quick probably because it doesn't have....sense?
but sense 3.0 is one of the main reasons i got the HTC and i would like to keep and use it...i'm not a fan of quadrant benchmarks and dont really care about numbers but if i can make the phone a bit quicker what ROM do you recommend?
i usually look first at the ROMs that have most replies/views and that seems to be Revolution HD...which theoretically means it has the largest user base right?
last but not least i'm waiting for it to charge above 35% so i can install the 2.3.4 OTA update...maybe that's a bit snappier than 2.3.3 it came with...
oh couple of things:
-can i just update weather without having to use location services all the time?
-the HTC unlock site seems to list the Sensation as supported for bootloader unlock...should i do it? would this make rooting & installing custom ROMs easier?
- does any of the custom ROMs include the new "enhanced" camera apk&profiles that allow up to 40mbps bitrates?
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2.3.4 update is definitely faster than 2.3.3, so do it.
And answers:
1. Unless your city is on the list, then no
2. You have to unlock the bootloader if you want custom ROM. However, do it with Revolutionary (revolutionary.io). That way HTC won't know that you unlocked it and won't void warranty because you can reverse it (read the sticky in development)
3. Not sure about that, but you can get it in any ROM if you install/flash it
¤Violets are red,
Roses are blue,
Wait, what?
I have no idea what I'm saying,
But you lost the game¤
thanks man, will try more tomorrow!
got the 2.3.4 OTA, it feels a bit faster already...
also screenshot function now seems to work, it didn't before in 2.3.3
one thing i noticed after using it for couple of hours: it will really warm my pockets in winter!!!!
let's see how the battery is doing after a couple of charges....by the way, is a factory reset needed after installing 2.3.4 OTA?

[Q] Should I Root?

Thinking about rooting my phone but I'm not sure if I should.
I bought my phone outside the US, my service provider is in Asia (Taiwan).
My phone is HTC Sensation Z710e.
I want to root because:
- I want to have access to the US Market, not my current countries; I want to access certain apps that aren't available outside the US.
- I want to upgrade to stock ICS when releases are more stable.
- I want to customize the look of my phone with things like CM or MIUI.
- I want to improve battery life (if possible).
I'm scared to root because:
- I don't understand ANY of the "rooting vocabulary" like s-off, kernel, rom, clockwork, radios, etc. Even the "noob" guides confuse me
- I don't want to ruin my phone.
- Because I'm in a different country I'm scared that I won't have service after rooting.
Right now my only experience with Android is using different launchers. I've tried around 10 but prefer GoLauncher because of the themes and widgets. I use my phone a lot and want more out of it. I love ICS! Not in love with Sense anymore.
What do you think I should do? Root or no.
Hey,
was not everyone in the beginning a noob?
To improve the battery life, you could underclock and undervolt the Cpu.
But this is just possible with another Kernel, like Faux oder Bricked.
S-off -> security off, the security off option allows you to write to the NAND,
a flash memory where the main parts of your phone are saved.
Kernel -> The Base Part of a Rom, includes the Drivers and so on.
Rom -> Like a Windows Version, there are different Roms like different Windows
Versions. A Rom is the whole Android on your phone.
Clockwork recovery -> the Recovery System you can install after Rooting, lets you install you own Roms, Updates etc. With another recovery than the Stock, you cant install OTA Updates, but you can update the same with a .zip file with the clockwork recovery.
Radio.... dont know exactly, something that has to be there for communicating
with the network etc.
So, I would just Root, if you want to use another Rom. There arent as much ways of doing things with rooted phones as with another Rom.
the easy answer would have been yes lol
Hi guy's,
I'm glad you've posted this up as I'm in the same boat. I want to try and get more out of my phone as I have done with my PC. Some of the basic terminology isn't explained in laymans terms on here though (not that I could find anyway!) So thanks for clearing up those bits of information.
As for Rooting your phone. I used the How-To thread in this section and did it pretty easily. Only had a few issues but the guides help you through really well.
I'm now looking at a phone that's rooted, clockworked, S-Off and SuperCID'd but I haven't unlocked it yet.
I'm going to spend the next few days looking through the various threads on here to find out whether there is one preferred ROM that will get my phone running faster and smoother.
Hope you manage to get yours done as easily as I did. It's always worth having a play with these things... Especially if you back it all up so that if it does go wrong, you can just reset it like nothing ever happened.
I say, root! The costum roms from mike are excellent, better battery life etc..
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It's easy to do, there's a lot of topics about it. Check noobsproof guide in Sensation Android Development. When you'll aknowledge basics you'll love huge range possibilities, roms, mods etc. And your Sensation will love u too
Thanks for the help. I might wait until CM9 releases or a perfect stock ICS ROM comes out.
So I will root, just waiting for those things.
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You can root without getting a new ROM, which is what I recently did. It lets you do things like run setCPU to underclock (and get huge improvement on battery life), use Titanium Backup to remove pre-installed apps, etc.
Just follow steps 1, 2 and 3 on the guide (S-off, install Recovery, Root- takes awhile, but most of the time goes to waiting for the phone to do the work).
good question! im also about to ask this. 1 more question is is the CM 7 alpha for sensation are stable to use?? Planning to try root n put CM. =)
Is their a particular ROM that most people use? I'd like to get a little better battery life and make my Sensation run a bit quicker if possible.
Also, Is their anything around that can make your GPS more accurate and speed up data rates?
The ARHD roms seem to be quite popular including the newest ICS build. Wouldn't hurt to go around and test out a few others to see if they fit your need.
And yes, there are some current hotfixes out there if you are having trouble with your GPS.
maverick0729 said:
The ARHD roms seem to be quite popular including the newest ICS build. Wouldn't hurt to go around and test out a few others to see if they fit your need.
And yes, there are some current hotfixes out there if you are having trouble with your GPS.
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Thanks Maverick. I'm not so much having issues with my GPS as wanting to boost it a little.
I use an app for recording my time on race tracks. It records things like the g-forces and the lap times as well as video and audio. The built in GPS is "okay" but I've heard a lot of people us an external GPS as it gives better data times ie. the built-in GPS = 5Hz compared to external GPS = 10Hz. I wondered if their would be some way of boosting the built in one so I don't need three things plugged into the car at once!
Are the ROMs as easy to flash and "un-flash" as the normal big updates I used to do every now and again on my HD2 etc?
Yeah, the Roms are pretty easy to install and remove if you don't like they way they work. As far as boosting the overall performance of the internal GPS.. I don't think there is any way to overclock that part of it. I could be wrong though.
Sounds good. I'll try and unlock it tomorrow and then try and install a rom or two. Looks like I'm going to try out the ARHD Rom first, and have a look at an overclock
I'll have a look around to see if theirs much that can be done to or with the built in GPS. It would be andy to get a bit better performance from it but I guess I can live with it until the next big thing comes along and takes my fancy
Hey,
I've haven't been on this forum for long.
I think you should definitively root. It takes almost no time at all to go through the noob guide and then in a couple of hours, if you really want to know about things like S-OFF, kernels, radios etc. you can check out the documentation online.
I've owned a HTC Desire before and I rooted that as well and flashed LeeDroid's custom ROM for the Desire. Now a friend is using the phone and she's most happy with it. It's a lot faster than the stock ROM for the Desire.
Right now I'm playing with an HTC Sesation. I've also been reticent on rooting it. The guide on the forum seemed a bit complicated and I didn't have the patience to go through every step, but it turned out to be a lot faster than I thought. The tool from Revolutionary disables the security and installs the bootloader and recovery with just one click. Than you would just flash any custom ROM, as they are all rooted and there you go.
what are the best roms for battery life?
best battery
dmcb123 said:
what are the best roms for battery life?
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First off: with Sense or without Sense does make a noticable difference because launchers and widgets differ a lot in battery usage.
With Sense:
In my case the unexpected winner of that comparison still is ARHD 5.0.2 with the new firmware flashed. It out-lives any other Sensation ROM by more than 40%.
Without Sense:
The differences were minimal.
If you don't want the risks of ICS which is still beta and comes with problems for many, MIUI.us was second best with the appropriate kernel. Since it's been more than two weeks since I tested MIUI and that one isn't stable either, I'm unwilling to advise you. You should ask in the thread.
In all of my comparisons I used JuiceDefender.
For battery life comparison you need to stick with a ROM for more than 24h and a few reboots.
I've tried LeeDroid, SensEay, Virtuous, all 3 ARHD, HyperSensation CM7, Miui.us, InsertCOIN.
hope this helps
So just putting the ARHD ROM on will also give me better battery life?
The main thing that worries me with ROM flashing is stability. I can't be without my phone for a day if I flash it then have problems while i'm at work. Are most of these roms etc stable when they are released? Is it mainly the overclocking and hardware mods that make it unstable?
Thanks for answering my questions... as you can see I'm a total N00B but you guys are helping me out loads and making me more confident to do it all
I think you should try Eleganica ROM for battery life you will like it for sure!! Give it a shot!
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Back again. This is so far what the battery life is giving me using Elegancia.ROM um ICS 4.0.1.
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Custom rom and Launcher

I just installed cyanogen 7 and just got all my apps and stuff back on it. I use Golauncher pro and it seems like they dont work very well together because most my widgets dont work and it seems slower. Does having a launcher defeat the purpose of having a custom rom? Any suggestions as to what to do after flashing a custom rom?
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I just installed cyanogen 7 and just got all my apps and stuff back on it. I use Golauncher pro and it seems like they dont work very well together because most my widgets dont work and it seems slower. Does having a launcher defeat the purpose of having a custom rom? Any suggestions as to what to do after flashing a custom rom?
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You are using a Custom Rom wich already is using a launcher (ADW Launcher), so I guess that they might not be compatible at the same time. You should read thoroughly the ROM features and changelog and then go to the specific Q&A Forum. Just find wich rom might be working with your launcher. CM7 and Absolution have ADW Launcher...
I'm still confused as to what i'm acutally getting by flashing a custom rom. Will I get better battery? is it supposed to be "snappier?" I'm kind of confused because I feel its the exact same...
hkdflip2 said:
I'm still confused as to what i'm acutally getting by flashing a custom rom. Will I get better battery? is it supposed to be "snappier?" I'm kind of confused because I feel its the exact same...
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If you don't notice the difference between cm7 and stock sense, then you might be better off with a dumbphone. The 2 roms are WORLDS apart.
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is it supposed to be quicker? what benefits am i really getting. Cause right now my network doesnt work for some reason and my phone keeps having to force close every 20 seconds. Something doesnt feel right. Also my button at the bottom dont work now either except for the menu button. I dont know whats going on. Also should I be getting better battery life out of this?
hkdflip2 said:
I'm still confused as to what i'm acutally getting by flashing a custom rom. Will I get better battery? is it supposed to be "snappier?" I'm kind of confused because I feel its the exact same...
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As Pirateghost told you...it just depends what you are looking for. I have Sense 3.5 and many other tweaks that I didn't in the Stock rom.
CM7 Has many features from ICS and is absolutely different from a Sense Rom...is faster and simpler. If you don't like the experience of testing custom roms then you should go back to stock.
can anybody recommend me some good custom roms and what each one is good at?
hkdflip2 said:
can anybody recommend me some good custom roms and what each one is good at?
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Search and Read there is plenty of information about that....no one is going to do it for you.
hkdflip2 said:
can anybody recommend me some good custom roms and what each one is good at?
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Please stop being lazy and take time to read and educate yourself on what you're doing, I promise it will make all of this soon much easier for you..this will only be said once...there is no best rom,all Rome have bugs, its on you to figure out what you can and cannot live with
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Cm7 is built from the Android code without all of the bloat that comes with the Sense based Roms. Typically CMis quicker. I am running Absolution 3.3 which is based on the CM7 builds and it is by far the fastest ROM and best battery life I have gotten on any other ROM and I have tried many of them. I ran Go Launcher when I first got the Inspire and it made the phone so slow and the battery drain was pretty bad too. In fact it is what drove me to Root the phone in the first place.
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tropicalfish65 said:
Cm7 is built from the Android code without all of the bloat that comes with the Sense based Roms. Typically CMis quicker. I am running Absolution 3.3 which is based on the CM7 builds and it is by far the fastest ROM and best battery life I have gotten on any other ROM and I have tried many of them. I ran Go Launcher when I first got the Inspire and it made the phone so slow and the battery drain was pretty bad too. In fact it is what drove me to Root the phone in the first place.
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I doubt go launcher was the main culprit in the battery drain of an unrooted phone...it was probably due to sense more then it was the go launcher ..... case in point I use go launcher on bindroid and absolution and absolution gives me about 6 hours more on one charge
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MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
I doubt go launcher was the main culprit in the battery drain of an unrooted phone...it was probably due to sense more then it was the go launcher ..... case in point I use go launcher on bindroid and absolution and absolution gives me about 6 hours more on one charge
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Excellent point. I should have mentioned that it was only on the Sense ROM not ASOP. When I ran Go Launcher after rooting and getting off Sense, it was much better.
On a side note, I noticed you are from Philly. What radio are you using? I am just across the bridge in South Jersey and have been looking for radio options and given your involvement with Aboslution I value your opinion.
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[Q] what can i do with stock, rooted and s-off?

I dont have a custom rom installed and dont really want to as they all seem to have issues with wifi calling (need it since I only have 100mins prepaid plan). It doesn't seem to make sense to install extra stuff if neither are stable.
1) I would like to install a different keyboard that has swype or atleast the htc version of swype but without the keyboard vibrating every time i press a key.
2) I would also like to install/use a different kernel to overclock the cpu (and/or gpu, if possible)...is this possible?
3) Can I install/use a bootscreen/shutdown screen? and/or when i turn off the scren the screen turns off like a tv?
4) What is the quickest and/or easiest way to remove stock apps that I dont want on the phone?
Are either of these things possible without installing a gb/ics rom?
Thanks in advance.
Yes to all, but you'll have to dig to find all the resources...
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GROGG88 said:
Yes to all, but you'll have to dig to find all the resources...
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So if I find the threads with the information on how to install do those (individual) things then I should be good to go?
download rom toolbox by jrummy
hdjx20 said:
download rom toolbox by jrummy
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does it do other stuff than roms? cuz i said in the op i dont wanna install a rom.
*ignore this*
looked it up and seems pretty cool...looking into it more now. thanks.
CTR01 said:
1) I would like to install a different keyboard that has swype or atleast the htc version of swype but without the keyboard vibrating every time i press a key.
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You can do this whether or not you have root, can you not?
CTR01 said:
2) I would also like to install/use a different kernel to overclock the cpu (and/or gpu, if possible)...is this possible?
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Should be fine
CTR01 said:
3) Can I install/use a bootscreen/shutdown screen? and/or when i turn off the scren the screen turns off like a tv?
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With root, you can do this easily. However, the "like a tv" part isn't really working right now for sense 3.5/4.0 roms. I'm assuming you'll stick with sense 3.0, if so then yeah you'll still have that
CTR01 said:
4) What is the quickest and/or easiest way to remove stock apps that I dont want on the phone?
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I think Titanium backup is the most easiest method ever
1) Sorry I meant, now that i have root/s-off do i have more choices or is there some way to turn off the vibration of the keyboard?
2) ok, thanks
3) ok, im not too worried about this one...was more just curious
4) i have the free version of titanium backup so im not sure if i have the capability to remove the stock apps from the phone
you should be able to shut off the vibration when typing within the Language and Keyboard settings for whichever keyboard you are using.
There are some really good kernel devs that do work for the Sensation (faux and showp, to name just 2), and it would be of great benefit to you battery life to look into flashing kernels. Both tose guys have threads just for their kernels, with instructions for flashing.
Good luck
enserio said:
you should be able to shut off the vibration when typing within the Language and Keyboard settings for whichever keyboard you are using.
There are some really good kernel devs that do work for the Sensation (faux and showp, to name just 2), and it would be of great benefit to you battery life to look into flashing kernels. Both tose guys have threads just for their kernels, with instructions for flashing.
Good luck
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thanks for the information, i'll be looking into it asap!
CTR01 said:
I dont have a custom rom installed and dont really want to as they all seem to have issues with wifi calling (need it since I only have 100mins prepaid plan). It doesn't seem to make sense to install extra stuff if neither are stable.
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I was worried about this also, but Wifi calling works great with ARHD and Virtuous ICS roms.
I had a minor issue with WIFI calling with ARHD, but Virtuous seems solid. ARHD has since fixed that problem too.
Keep a backup of your current rom. Try ARHD or Virtuous for a week, and if you run into any problems, revert back.
The extra boost in speed from a well turned ROM was WELL worth it. I can't believe how slow my stock Sensation was at just scrolling albums in Google Music. Now its nice and smooth with clean ROMs.
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I was worried about this also, but Wifi calling works great with ARHD and Virtuous ICS roms.
I had a minor issue with WIFI calling with ARHD, but Virtuous seems solid. ARHD has since fixed that problem too.
Keep a backup of your current rom. Try ARHD or Virtuous for a week, and if you run into any problems, revert back.
The extra boost in speed from a well turned ROM was WELL worth it. I can't believe how slow my stock Sensation was at just scrolling albums in Google Music. Now its nice and smooth with clean ROMs.
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thanks, i'll look into those and other roms asap. have to re-root b/c i had a su binary update issue.

Reason to root/custom Rom?

I've had a droid eris back in the day and that practically required a custom Rom in order to run well...with the s3 which has better stats than some of the computers I work with...what IS the advantage of rooting or using a custom Rom? We can install apks from unknown sources without root(sadly my nook tablet had to be rooted to do that)...we can disable most if not all the bloatware without root...we have plenty of on board storage so no absolute need to delete even the bloatware....just curious as to why you do root? Is it just the "geek"thing to do? Is the battery life that much better? Can't see it being much faster...I do however appreciate all the work people are doing developing for this device as I believe it will extend its life...so without further ado give me your reasons why you root/custom Rom....specifically this device?
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I root to use ad free, titanium backup, some of the extra features in tasker and occasionally Wi-Fi tether. Roms also bring features that were left out such as a brightness slider in the notifications, jelly bean animations and further optimizations are usually included. Plus there are those countless mods and themes that take care of your minor annoyances, and set your color/icon preferences just right.
Overall it makes a great phone even better
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First of all this should be In q&a but besides that customs roms from this phone will 1. Get you better battery life 2. Give you features that are desired from other phones 3. Give more customization options to the user 4. Well I mean better performance but its already blazing fast so its not too noticeable
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Feel free to move this thread if it should be in q&a....and ty for the responses already I'm still debating on rooting/roming my phone(even though my nook tablet I rooted/cm9 installed it the moment I got it lol) she some reason I'm more cautious with this a device than any other but from what I've read and what you all have said the advantages of rooting and using a custom Rom still apply even for as beefy a device as the g3....maybe I'll get bored later and try it out...another ? that may have been answered..does the k exec kernel lock out one of the cores? Thought I saw someone say that
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That picture is the main reason I root. Granted that is mostly standby but it is still amazing. I also like to use AdFree Android to get rid of any ads that may come up on my device. With this phone you mentioned it can't get much smoother and I agree. I am currently running a custom kernel with the Synergy ROM and I have my phone underclocked to 1.1GHz and it feels like it is still on stock because of what Synergy did to make the phone faster. Saves on battery A LOT in my opinion. If you are on the fence about rooting and ROMing I say go for it. The worst that will happen is you don't see the need and you Odin back to stock which will take you about 10 minutes. :laugh:
Excessiveidling said:
Feel free to move this thread if it should be in q&a....and ty for the responses already I'm still debating on rooting/roming my phone(even though my nook tablet I rooted/cm9 installed it the moment I got it lol) she some reason I'm more cautious with this a device than any other but from what I've read and what you all have said the advantages of rooting and using a custom Rom still apply even for as beefy a device as the g3....maybe I'll get bored later and try it out...another ? that may have been answered..does the k exec kernel lock out one of the cores? Thought I saw someone say that
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The rooting process for this phone is pain free and only takes a couple of minutes. At the very least, I would say root it and play around with some of the mods. I went about a week after I got my phone going stock/rooted and it was great, but Bean's Rom and Synergy are both fantastic.
And fwiw, kexec doesn't lock out a core.
Originally, my sole reason for rooting was to get rid of that annoying Verizon wifi notification/add back the wifi toggle.
In the process, I discovered SynergyROM, which seems promising. It has lots of customization options, including being able to choose which toggle you have. Not to mention, it also boosts you data/wifi speeds and gives phenomenal battery life.
Honestly, if I were on AT&T or some other network that didn't have the BS wifi notification, I wouldn't even have bothered rooting until my second year into the device, like I did with my Droid Eris.
On a side note: whoohoo! Ex Droid Eris buddy!
Actual Root
Relentless D said:
The rooting process for this phone is pain free and only takes a couple of minutes. At the very least, I would say root it and play around with some of the mods. I went about a week after I got my phone going stock/rooted and it was great, but Bean's Rom and Synergy are both fantastic.
And fwiw, kexec doesn't lock out a core.
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Are you referring to the work around root? And if so, will the work around yield the same results as having actually rooted the phone? I'm asking this cause I was under the impression Verizon still has the boot loader locked.
mal001 said:
Are you referring to the work around root? And if so, will the work around yield the same results as having actually rooted the phone? I'm asking this cause I was under the impression Verizon still has the boot loader locked.
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The Bootloader is still locked but you don't need it unlocked to root. There are workarounds (Kexec) for flashing roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792342&
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The Bootloader is still locked but you don't need it unlocked to root. There are workarounds (Kexec) for flashing roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792342&
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You can flash Custom ROMs without kexec. You need to use kexec to flash custom kernels. Assuming you consider ROMs like synergy custom and don't only consider AOSP ROMs custom.
Haro912 said:
You can flash Custom ROMs without kexec. You need to use kexec to flash custom kernels. Assuming you consider ROMs like synergy custom and don't only consider AOSP ROMs custom.
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True. But despite my poor wording the point was that the locked bootloader doesn't mean we can't flash roms
Relentless D said:
True. But despite my poor wording the point was that the locked bootloader doesn't mean we can't flash roms
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Yeah I know I just didn't want someone thinking they had to understand kexec to flash a TW rom with the stock kernel.
miui
Haro912 said:
Yeah I know I just didn't want someone thinking they had to understand kexec to flash a TW rom with the stock kernel.
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I habe rooted my s3 To be able To install miui which I think is the most beautiful Rom for the android
Excessiveidling said:
I've had a droid eris back in the day and that practically required a custom Rom in order to run well...with the s3 which has better stats than some of the computers I work with...what IS the advantage of rooting or using a custom Rom? We can install apks from unknown sources without root(sadly my nook tablet had to be rooted to do that)...we can disable most if not all the bloatware without root...we have plenty of on board storage so no absolute need to delete even the bloatware....just curious as to why you do root? Is it just the "geek"thing to do? Is the battery life that much better? Can't see it being much faster...I do however appreciate all the work people are doing developing for this device as I believe it will extend its life...so without further ado give me your reasons why you root/custom Rom....specifically this device?
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To get rid of the 'ongoing' wifi notification and put back the wifi toggle back in there too. That was my sole reason and have actually been okay with touchwiz so far.
I rooted to get root explorer
I would have left it alone but cut and paste self-corrupted and I needed root explorer to fix this
Since I was rooted anyway, I decided to install a rom to eliminate the wi fi notification too
asmallchild said:
I rooted to get root explorer
I would have left it alone but cut and paste self-corrupted and I needed root explorer to fix this
Since I was rooted anyway, I decided to install a rom to eliminate the wi fi notification too
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I had my S3 all of a day before I got the root itch. And that was after having an original moto droid rooted for over 2+ years.
I just like knowing I have the extra control if I need it.
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dunderball said:
To get rid of the 'ongoing' wifi notification and put back the wifi toggle back in there too. That was my sole reason and have actually been okay with touchwiz so far.
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You can get rid of the wifi notification without rooting.*#6335623#
There, now no reason to root
My BIGGEST reason for rooting is because of updates. Anyone notice how the phones from the manufacturers just keep coming out back to back? I am tired of the fact that i can go buy a new just released phone, and before the first year is out, it seems the manufacturer quits updating the software. for example, if ICS came with the phone, unless it is the flagship phone, majority of the phones will not see a JB version. Even if the phone has not even been out for a year ( still under the 1 year warranty). this to me is BS, i think that they should be required to update all the software (assuming the HW can handle it) at least during the warranty period. they seem to just want you to buy a new phone to get the software. Rooting usually allows me to have access to the tools to update the phone myself through another Rom. I also like to have choices.
xsteven77x said:
You can get rid of the wifi notification without rooting.*#6335623#
There, now no reason to root
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That doesn't "get rid of" the wifi notification it disables it. It's still there, regardless of whether wifi is turned on or off, but now it just does nothing when you press on it. Personally, if it's going to be there either way, I'd rather it actually do something.
Getting to the original question:
Although I haven't rooted yet (I like to ride out my warranty first), here are the top reasons why I would do it:
- AdAway
- Titanium Backup
- Fully Functional Nova Launcher (read: widgets in drawer)
- ROMs & Mods
On my old Incredible, it was more for AdAway, Titianium, and other root-needing apps. Only later once ICS came out did I really dive into new ROMS.
This phone on the other hand, needs a new ROM right away! There are just too many things that piss me off about TouchWiz.
Things like:
- No Screenshot in Power Menu
- Toggles in notification pane not configurable
- Ongoing Wifi Notification instead of a Toggle
- No brightness slider in notification pane
- Manual arrangement of icons in a folder doesn't stick for more than a week
- App drawer icon isn't centered
- "Audio Applications" menu that shows up in notification pane when headphone are connected can't be configured to show apps I actually use
- No audio controls on lockscreen (standard lockscreen)
- Audio doesn't pause automatically when I unplug my headphones
- Audio sometimes starts up randomly when I plug in my headphones
- Audio volume steps down to ~85% when plugging in headphones
- Headphones/Speakers have separate volumes
And those are just the things that come to mind immediately.

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