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I have a chance to get one of these 3 phones. With contract.
I really like the G2 but, want to get the experts recommendations of these 3 phones.
I haven't used anyone of these phones. I do use an HD2 dual booting.
Pros and Cons for all phones and user experience would help me decide.
Thanks
First off i say stay away from the vibrant. Not thst its a bad phone, i personally dont like samsung (returned my epic after 3 days.) As you can see in my sig my current phones include a nexus one, HD2, HD7, and My Touch 4G.
My favorite phone out of the group is the MT4G just because of the speed and power it has. The second gen snapdragon and the 786mb ram make it one of the most powerful and fast android phones on the market.
I have only had the HD7 for 3 or 4 days. Great phone and OS, but it needs more time to mature. My mine problem with it is the no multitasking with third party apps. The Os is smooth as butter though!
IMO get the G2 (If you want the keyboard, MT4G if you want a fully loaded android.)
Personally, I'd get the HD7. It can only get better as the OS matures.
As far as the android phones go, it depends on what you're looking for. G2 has a keyboard, but slower CPU (800MHz). Vibrant has no keyboard, but a faster CPU (1GHz) and also an AMOLED screen.
Don't know if you were looking to get the MyTouch4g, but I'd probably choose that if I were to get an android phone on t-mobile.
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First off i say stay away from the vibrant. Not thst its a bad phone, i personally dont like samsung (returned my epic after 3 days.) As you can see in my sig my current phones include a nexus one, HD2, HD7, and My Touch 4G.
My favorite phone out of the group is the MT4G just because of the speed and power it has. The second gen snapdragon and the 786mb ram make it one of the most powerful and fast android phones on the market.
I have only had the HD7 for 3 or 4 days. Great phone and OS, but it needs more time to mature. My mine problem with it is the no multitasking with third party apps. The Os is smooth as butter though!
IMO get the G2 (If you want the keyboard, MT4G if you want a fully loaded android.)
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I do like the MT4G too, that one isn't available to me right now (these aren't being bought from a T-Mobile store). That is why I didn't include it in the poll or post.
I'm not really sure about the Vibrant, I can't believe they didn't put a camera flash on it, what a waste.
Thanks for your input. I did click the thanks button.
With NAND boot Android on the HD2 I'm not sure you will get an appreciably better Android experience from the Vibrant, G2, or MT4G. I would go with the HD7 personally to try something new. Or wait it out until after CES.
The main advantage is 4G speeds with the G2 or MT4G, if your in a 4G area. In Kansas City I avg 8-10mbs on my MT4G. I do see great potential in WP7. I absolutly love the OS, im just waiting for Microsoft to add the lil things they left out. If you take lots of pics with your phone though the camera sucks on the HD7.
I have yet to try a nand rom on my HD2. Time to dust it off and give it a shot. it was already good with SD roms.
My sd Android is working good. Battery life could be better. I haven't tried the NAND either, might try it tomorrow.
Still haven't figured out which one to get.
I just got a vibrant and I really love it. I came from a hd2 so screen size as very important.
While I thought I wanted the mt4g but I am very happy with the vibrant. I havent experienced any bugs and with the nero v3 rom i've been happy as a pig in sh.t lol.
As far as the hd7 I wasnt willing to take the plunge because of the sd card limitation and the possible lack of apps.
Well personally ive played around with the G2 and i like it, yes it has a slower CPU but it has been overclocked to 2 Ghz!!! 2X faster than the MT4G, but you dont have to go that ridiculous, you can just go with the standard 1.2 Ghz, thats assuming your willing to root your phone
Not to mention that the G2 is said to get the new gingerbread (2.3) soon, according to others, it makes it quicker so if you add all that i think that the G2 is the best
(also if you really like the MT4G sense ui, i have heard that they have it as a rom for the G2, not to mention they have Cyanogen on it)
but basically its up to you
Not looking to leave a Vibrant
As you can see by my signature I have a Vibrant. It is operating some as silk and very very fast. If it wasn't for the developers I could not say this.
I have been looking at a Nexus S and realizing the differences between Nexus S and a Vibrant are the curved body style, a flash with the camera and a 2.3 OS. The camera on a Vibrant is very good even taking night shots. A flash is not required on a Vibrant.
I will not change to a Nexus for the small differences. Very happy for now waiting for something newer to come along
My vote goes to Desire Z
I vote for the G2. I'm selling my Nexus S for one.
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Advantages of of G2 are Keyboard and (almost) stock android IMO.
Advantages of MT4G are faster processor (and its been overclocked to, i run mine at 1.4ghz) More ram(786mb), more ram cant hurt. Front facing Cam, thats more of a prefrence, but it will be big if skype brings video chat to android.
Advantages of HD7 are Big screen. Fast and great looking OS. Netflix (if your a member.) Zune and zune pass. The market is also growing really fast so the lack of apps will die especially when MS loosens up and let devs get access to more api.
If your gonna root i dont think it matters if a phone has sense or not because you can put a rom with it if you want it or a rom without it if you prefer stock.
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Advantages of of G2 are Keyboard and (almost) stock android IMO.
Advantages of MT4G are faster processor (and its been overclocked to, i run mine at 1.4ghz) More ram(786mb), more ram cant hurt. Front facing Cam, thats more of a prefrence, but it will be big if skype brings video chat to android.
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They've overclocked the G2 to 1.8GHz.
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They've overclocked the G2 to 1.8GHz.
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Same for the MT4G, I just run mine at 1.4ghz.
Well, I did have a chance to get the Mytouch 4g and, I got it in red.
Loving it so far. Thanks for all the great help!
G2. Dude why not get 4G speeds? Who wouldn't?
Ok so I just got the MT4G yesterday and before I flash it to custom rom I just wanted to know which is the most popular rom used by folks here, so vote and comment on it as pro/con would be helpful.
This is going to be hard to keep up as the ROMS are changing all of the time and you are missing 2 out of my 3 ROMS. I'm using the Evil Desire HD one one, cm7alpha on another, CM7 Nexus from Jaywan on another.
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This is going to be hard to keep up as the ROMS are changing all of the time and you are missing 2 out of my 3 ROMS. I'm using the Evil Desire HD one one, cm7alpha on another, CM7 Nexus from Jaywan on another.
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What is the difference between Evils desire hd port, and gorrilas? i use evils as of now
I use Iced Glacier, but I haven't actually tried any others. It is my first root/flash, and I just went with something that was not too drastic of a change and yet still pretty well received.
Well Bob I am aware of the CyanogenMod but only reason I didn't post it as CM7 is still under alpha. I need stable rom I am not going back to flashing rom every week lol hell I had rom every day for a month once was a pure flash addict
Then again HD2 does that to you as I am already missing the superior hackability of WinMo. Now alot of fanboy can cry all day about Android but fact is WinMo has better control once you know what you are doing and have basic knowledge.
Initially I did want CM based rom but I can't be using 6.x based ill wait for CM7 stable release before I go with it but till than I might go Evil 4G or Iced Glacier.
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Well Bob I am aware of the CyanogenMod but only reason I didn't post it as CM7 is still under alpha. I need stable rom I am not going back to flashing rom every week lol hell I had rom every day for a month once was a pure flash addict
Then again HD2 does that to you as I am already missing the superior hackability of WinMo. Now alot of fanboy can cry all day about Android but fact is WinMo has better control once you know what you are doing and have basic knowledge.
Initially I did want CM based rom but I can't be using 6.x based ill wait for CM7 stable release before I go with it but till than I might go Evil 4G or Iced Glacier.
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I agree I remember you from the HD2 section. I built many of roms for WM but now I'm almost Android noob stupid. Or it feels that way. The evil HD ROM is good my wife runs it and it is very stable. The others I'm playing with for fun.
Well so far after 24hour usage of the phone it does seem okay but I already miss the big display of HD2 hell when I go to setup widgets tells me don't have enough real state space on the screen :O But the phone is super stable.
I am very satisfied so far with the color scheme also I guess 16M vs 65k does that lol. Also the boot time is like 5sec which is crazy but I do suspect its false as its not full cold boot I am guessing as it could be some type of hibernation thus never fully shut the phone down. So when user starts it all it does is fast boot and recover it from NAND.
Still have 13 days maybe I will return it who knows I mean I am checking the CES 2k11 phones and dual core would be nice. I just hope they get with 4.3" screens IDK wtf HTC make dumb decisions. No DHD GSM based and the only phone that does have near same spec is MT4G but with small screen.
How do you guys like your new thunderbolt, is it better then your rooted droid 1.2ghz custom rom switching beast?
Sell me please cause i think its time i should get a new phone, this one looks promising but i need some help from you guys.
David522d said:
How do you guys like your new thunderbolt, is it better then your rooted droid 1.2ghz custom rom switching beast?
Sell me please cause i think its time i should get a new phone, this one looks promising but i need some help from you guys.
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*raises hand*
Blows my OG droid out of the water. The Droid 1 is severely lacking RAM and internal memory department for modern versions of android and apps. Overclocking into the stratosphere an an ARM7 architecture chip will only get you so far...
Yes the thunderbolt is miles away better than the OG droid,
I came from a rooted Droid. Last ROM on the Droid was Peter Alfonso's gingerbread ROMS.
As great as the OG Droid was, it doesn't hold a candle to the Thunderbolt. Fast doesn't even cover the speed of this phone and if you live in an area with 4G it's hard to conceive Internet as fast as VZ 4G
Also, coming from stock Android, I was pleasantly surprised by Sense and how easy it is to customize. I might be in thee minority, but I like the HTC messaging app/widgets so much, I don't even use Handcent anymore.
Also, the screen is nothing short of beautiful and responsive. I like my Thunderbolt more and more everyday. When we finally get Skype I will be over the moon.
I did and am loving it. It's so much faster and having a lot of RAM really gets you far. Also, I've been pretty impressed by Sense.
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I Had an OG Droid for a bit (Among other phones) , Thunderbolt faster/Better gaming/ Front Camera/ Bigger Screen/ 4g/ the List goes on...
i love my og droid, but im not looking back. the thunderbolt is a beast and i'm very happy with it...even without the keyboard I thought I'd miss so much...only gonna use the droid if I get rid of the TB while I wait for something newer..
I'm coming from a rooted OC'd to 1.25GHz OG Droid. The Droid was a great phone and I had lots of fun with it... but the low amount of memory was starting to cause issues.
The Thunderbolt is immeasurably faster. Everything is smooth and everything just happens instantly. No redraw issues ... the home screen just loads up right when I hit the home button.
I thought sense was pretty neat when I first got the phone, but I'm happy to have root so that I can get an AOSP ROM on this thing as soon as they start coming out. Maybe you'll be the same, maybe not. But you do have the choice
My recommendation: Get it on a one year contract. Tons of exciting things happening in the near future with phones. Next year we'll (maybe) have quad core phones with high DPI screens and better battery life.
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I'm coming from a rooted OC'd to 1.25GHz OG Droid. The Droid was a great phone and I had lots of fun with it... but the low amount of memory was starting to cause issues.
The Thunderbolt is immeasurably faster. Everything is smooth and everything just happens instantly. No redraw issues ... the home screen just loads up right when I hit the home button.
I thought sense was pretty neat when I first got the phone, but I'm happy to have root so that I can get an AOSP ROM on this thing as soon as they start coming out. Maybe you'll be the same, maybe not. But you do have the choice
My recommendation: Get it on a one year contract. Tons of exciting things happening in the near future with phones. Next year we'll (maybe) have quad core phones with high DPI screens and better battery life.
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Thats what i think i'm going to do, and yes im going to root... I played with the phone and sense, its okay. But i'm going to remove it and have a nice stock feel as to when i got my droid, then its time for the fun.
Is the process of rooting easy? any one clicks now?
I came from an OG Droid... and all I can say is WOW!! this phones is awesome!
as for rooting, its really not that bad, there are some easy root methods you can find on here, and there is a very strong development community already behind this phone.
Coming from rooted OC'd etc etc etc OG droid to TB and wow the difference in looks and performance is so much better.
Also just OC'd the TB to 1516Mhz. Amazing I tell ya.
This picture alone should sell you on the Thunderbolt vs the Droid.
Aside from the obvious gains from the processor/ram the screen and just the all around feel of the phone is amazing compared to the D1. You will not regret this purchase. <-- that statement comes from a consistent buyers remorse victim.
Came from an OG Droid running Sapphire. It treated me well, but the hardware on the TBolt just blows it out of the water. Now if we only had some AOSP goodness lol.
My two-cents: I agree with everyone regarding the huge performance increase of TB. It's also a much sexier device than Droid. However, I am NOT digging Sense. It's mostly not the launcher itself, but its invasion of apps that were fine (nay, wonderful) before, but whose Sense version suck (calendar, dialer, music, clock, sms/mms...). My Droid has CM7 RC3 on it and I really miss the more vanilla feel. There's also a TON of bloat on the phone and looking at the running task list makes me want to puke a little. Battery life is obv. a huge change too.
TL;DR: performance is a huge improvement, I hate Sense and am anxiously waiting for a working CM7 ROM. Oh, and there's the 4G, which is amazing.
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Is the process of rooting easy? any one clicks now?
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I tried the easy method mentioned in Android Central, and didn't have much success with it, and ended up using the manual method using ADB. It wasn't too painful, and as long as you're careful and verify the MD5s when performing the root, it's not that scary.
I'm sure in due time easier methods will come about, but until easy/one click root methods are cleaned up a bit, I'd recommend getting some ADB-fu
As for my initial impressions of the TB, all I can say is...
Flippin awesome. I was getting to the point of trying to tweak some sysctl variables in the OG Droid to squeeze some additional performance out of it. (ADD quickly negated that little 'project'). 4G LTE is smokin' fast, as is the actual phone. ADW EX works like a dream too. My only gripe is swype doesn't play well with SMS.
I didn't come directly from an OG Droid, I had a Droid X. When I was on my D1 I ran Bugless Beast and Chevy kernels.
Peter Alfonso ftw
Coming from a rooted/oc'd droid and I'm more than happy. That think was a boat anchor. I'm also glad to ditch the keyboard.
As for Sense, at first I really hated it, but with debloat roms I've really started to like it.
I came from an OG Droid OC'd to 1 ghz running CM7 nightlies with compcache and swapper2. I was having huge memory issues with that build (obviously) which is why I opted for the TB rather than the upcoming Bionic (768 mb vs. 512 mb).
So far, I love this thing. It's fast, has a huge screen and a blossoming developer community. Not to mention Verizon's 4G is probably the greatest thing that has happened to smart phones in a long time.
Also, the phones (OG Droid and TB) weigh about the same despite the size difference
Hi I'm looking to replace my current crappy HTC Snap. Its a horrible device. I want to upgrade to another Android device, preferably without 4G. None of the devices seem like an upgrade though, even though its 2009 vs 2011!
I like an active developer community, and a good keyboard. The Droid I enjoyed using since I didn't need to get a case for it and it was just a 'perfect smartphone' even today, if it had a better processor + ram, and if the battery life was better it could easily compete with today's phones.
Droid didn't have a very good keyboard, so far the closest thing is the Evo Shift, I'm fond of the Blackberry style phones too, so the XPRT is worth considering... if it had custom roms I would have gotten it already.
A good battery life would be awesome too. I would love to have a phone that just doesn't need to be charged every day, every other day would be cool or even every 2 days. I am a heavy texter so a good keyboard is almost a must, I didn't mind swype and I like it now, but still love a tactile keyboard.
Thanks!
You mentioned the shift, nice phone, but you need to know that is a 4g phone. I would recommend to stay away from Samsung based on my own and my roommates bad experiences with the moment and epic 4g. I would not get an EVO 4G at this time as the new bootloader is locked preventing root. Most of the newer android devices from Sprint are either 4g or just not worth it. The new EVO 3d has been rooted and would be my choice if you don't care about the extra 10 a month for 4g service. If not, try out the new windows phone 7, It's not 4g and has a keyboard. The new UI is actually sweet. However, the development community is not as big as on android.
I'd recommend going into a Sprint store and trying them all out first before making a decision.
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So this may be a silly question in a Nexus S forum, but would you guys recommend this device? I have an evo 3d and I just can't take the lack of development on it. I don't want to use my upgrade yet, so I'm trying to buy one cheap or trade for it.
The 3D is no doubt better spec-wise (dual core, 1GB RAM) but you can't beat the development of the Nexus S.
More specifically, is there anything you are after with regard to development? Features, themes, etc? Or do you just want to release the crackflasher within?
I just purchased a NS4G today on eBay for $61. The one I got has a bad esn, but I won't be using sprint, so I don't care.
With the ice cream sandwich they pushed today, I'd definitely say its worth it. You can find them for ~130 easily
I don't have the skill to develop for myself, but I love new roms, love vanilla android, love all the customization stuff. I found a local guy on CL who has a bricked one for $20. i think it is probably a soft-brick but figured worst case I'm out $20. I don't game too much on my phone, how is battery life? Does it feel snappy with the ICS update?
Thanks for the feedback so far guys! Hopefully join your forums for reals soon!
I have had a NS4G for about 6 months and I just got my son an evo 3d. I can say that my phone is much quicker and I've used non-sense/rooted roms and phones quite a bit. Sense isn't even intuitive to me any longer. I will let him ride it as long as he can since he's never had a smart phone but it makes little sense for my use. Battery is suggestive because of so many variables but I think he charges quite a bit more than his rant or ipod touch. Totally different beasts though. My previous phone was a heroc and I stopped running sense a while back. Having all features of the phone more easily work with rooted aosp roms is a big plus. Honestly, sense makes any phone feel like wm imo. If you have the means to get the phone, I would say you wouldn't be disappointed. I should also note that I get all my phones on contract and won't go over $99 so I cannot speak to the street value of either phone or really how much bang per buck. My son's 3d is nice but it doesn't impress me more than the hundred I spent on it, stock, and I can say the same about my phone. And as far as Development, both phones have lots of devs that I'm familiar with and they all put forth some great work but the options I've seen in aosp based roms on this phone make it damn sexy and functional.
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