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Hey guys,
I know that developing is in its early stages (doh, it came out yesterday haha), but I just wanted to let our beloved devs that we really really want to have a rom that is AOSP. Sense is a good eye candy, but I am sure that there are many of us in here that would like to get the maximum out of this beast of ours, and I think that AOSP android would give us all that.
Either that, or MIUI ROM - just something different than the Sense 3.0
I am also including a poll - to see if its just me with the desire of getting a non-sense rom ( and by that I mean AOSP, not just removed htc.sense and adding launcher pro ).
I love CyanogenMod as much as the next guy, but I remember that on my MT4G - the AOSP version used to run even better than the cm7.
I kinda liked Sense once I got it, but now I am getting tired of it - its just too much! I want a plain phone, that works like the hardware was meant to be.
I'm waiting for CM7
+1! would absolutely LOVE to see miui on my sensation!
I'm waiting for any ROM that is AOSP or atleast something different from sense.
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MIUI would be wonderful!
I don't get the hype for MIUI. I have only seen it in videos but it looks pretty ugly to me. Why would you want to trade in Android OS for an iPhone wannabe?
I like MIUI because it was simple. I guess the biggest reason would be that it was just different. Another one would be that I liked the way some of their apps worked. Such as Miui music.
Honestly for the sensation I'd like to see all of the above. I get bored a lot and to alleviate that I tend to flash different roms often.
AOSP would be heaven, but I doubt that you'll beat kmobs to the punch.
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well from what i understand you need cm7 first be4 miui
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well from what i understand you need cm7 first be4 miui
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not CM7 perse, but a good AOSP or AOSP based rom is needed to create MIUI. This is from the MIUI forums regarding a port to the Sensation.
Great...
i want to see miui on my htc sensation...
I'll be waiting...
I voted for CyanogenMod, ASOP and MIUI ;-)
Not big on monogamy at this point, I want all.
Waiting patiently.
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Hey guys,
I know that developing is in its early stages (doh, it came out yesterday haha), but I just wanted to let our beloved devs that we really really want to have a rom that is AOSP. Sense is a good eye candy, but I am sure that there are many of us in here that would like to get the maximum out of this beast of ours, and I think that AOSP android would give us all that.
Either that, or MIUI ROM - just something different than the Sense 3.0
I am also including a poll - to see if its just me with the desire of getting a non-sense rom ( and by that I mean AOSP, not just removed htc.sense and adding launcher pro ).
I love CyanogenMod as much as the next guy, but I remember that on my MT4G - the AOSP version used to run even better than the cm7.
I kinda liked Sense once I got it, but now I am getting tired of it - its just too much! I want a plain phone, that works like the hardware was meant to be.
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Be patient, they're working on it. Kmobs has the basics working but they won't release until it's ready.
I check download.cyanogenmod.com and sensation development like 3 times a day, lol.
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I'd love CM7.1 to work on our Sensation.... did try the test rom in the Development forum and apart from not being able to turn on the bluetooth, and losing a few settings like Internet Sharing, it feels pretty complete....
Phateless said:
Be patient, they're working on it. Kmobs has the basics working but they won't release until it's ready.
I check download.cyanogenmod.com and sensation development like 3 times a day, lol.
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Could be me... Voted for CM7
Former Nexus S user here.
AdamG cooked up some delicious OxygenROM for the NS. Supposedly one of his cohorts is porting Oxygen to the Sensation. Hopefully that makes it here because it was an incredibly fast and lightweight AOSP rom.
oh I can't wait for CM7 on my Sensation.... I like Miui too but not nearly as much as CM7. I really miss RoyalGinger that I had on my MT4G, I almost wish I'd of waited to buy my sensation until CM7 dropped for it.
Stupid request, wait and give devs the time they need for there awesome work for all of us.
By the way, c-mod is much more greater for every device because they're developing than stolen c-mod stuff modded by miui "devs".
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I haven't used cyanogenmod since cm5, and want that impressed with features. I'll sure many more have been added since then and hope to see it soon. Some of the plain aosp apps kind of suck vs the manufacture flavor though. hopefully the latest CM builds have many bulls info them. I do prefer vanilla ish (launcherpro) vs manufacture launchers though
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MIUI music is the coolest modded music player out there...and MIUI is fun to tinker with and reminds me of iOS...used to be a Dev so it makes it nostalgic..plus you can change so many things without coding or fussing
I hate sense. I hate it so much that I am ready to get rid of the phone even though overall it is a great phone. Who in their right mind thinks dragging a circle into a ring is intuitive? Most of my friends cant figure out how to anser my phone and they own other android phones. I have now had this phone for about 6 months. My previous phones were the Nexus One, which was awesome, and had i not dropped and broke the screen I would still be using that phone. T-mobile replaced it with a galaxy s which was a complete POS which led to this phone. I want to root my phone, and install ice cream sandwich (ICS), or at least native android but I do not want sense. Every thread I have found on here all seem to include the sense with ICS. Can someone point me to a ROM that will meet my needs?
To root: [Guide] to Installing S-off, Unlocking, ClockWork, Root, SuperCID & S-on
I'm currently running ARHD 4.1.9 with a no sense add on script.
This link here: [ROM] Android Revolution HD™ 5.0.2 XE | ICS | Sense 3.5 | High Quality & Performance
will direct you to the downloads for a good ICS rom install.
This link: ARHD No Sense Script
Is the add on you flash straight after you flash the rom to remove the sense script (don't reboot CWM or 4EXT flash straight after). It will give you standard android with Go Launcher EX.
It's good as a daily.
Soon enough, CM9 will be available if you're willing to wait. It's AOSP 4.0 and apparently it's progressing nicely. Now, I don't want to ask this, but why buy an HTC if you hate Sense? I know AOSP is out there, but there are better phones with AOSP (GNexus, for example). I mean, half of the Sensations have "WITH HTC SENSE" right on the battery housing.
I don't get it. HTC makes Sense, it's what differentiates HTC from others, why buy an HTC if you hate Sense?
Edit: I want to make it clear, I'm not trying to hate or be a condescending douche, I'm just trying to see a different perspective. I actually don't mind Sense, but it depends how it's done. None of the 3.5 roms run great for me, ARHD 3.x seems to be the only rom that does Sense right. Smooth and fast, lag free.
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Soon enough, CM9 will be available if you're willing to wait. It's AOSP 4.0 and apparently it's progressing nicely. Now, I don't want to ask this, but why buy an HTC if you hate Sense? I know AOSP is out there, but there are better phones with AOSP (GNexus, for example). I mean, half of the Sensations have "WITH HTC SENSE" right on the battery housing.
I don't get it. HTC makes Sense, it's what differentiates HTC from others, why buy an HTC if you hate Sense?
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Because they make great hardware? Because the Sensation is way better in terms of build quality, materials quality and weight balance than the Galaxy S II(which was the other phone I was considering). I've had several HTCs (Qtek 9100, HTC Diamond, HTC Desire, HTC Sensation) and they are all exceptionally well built.
The Diamond was the first phone where they started bundling some crappy "shell"(early version of Sense, but the name was different) on top of the Windows OS. It was really pointless for me, so I just disabled it(it was much easier back then - Settings > Today > Plugins, and you're ready ) After the Diamond I used an Nokia E51 for a while, and then bought the Desire... a nice phone indeed, but something was not right... After I downloaded and flashed CM6 for the first time I never went back to Sense again, Sense just looks ridiculous to me...
And when I bought the Sensation I used it for around 5 minutes with Sense, just to give it a try, but it was still the same $#!7.
So I, and a lot of other more advanced users, hate Sense. It is what differentiates HTC for the beginner and average user. For the advanced user the competitive advantage of HTC is their materials and build quality. And and HTC makes a great device to run CyanogenMod on(the best Android distro).
PS The Nexus S is a great phone, but I wanted the extra screen real estate and the dual-core CPU. The Galaxy Nexus is even better, but it wasn't available when I bought my Sensation. The HTC Nexus One was available when I bought my Desire, but it was 120 Euro more expensive, and I really dislike capacitive buttons(sadly, they seem to be the standard these days)
So this is basically why someone would buy HTC, and hate Sense
mafiabs said:
Because they make great hardware? Because the Sensation is way better in terms of build quality, materials quality and weight balance than the Galaxy S II(which was the other phone I was considering). I've had several HTCs (Qtek 9100, HTC Diamond, HTC Desire, HTC Sensation) and they are all exceptionally well built.
The Diamond was the first phone where they started bundling some crappy "shell"(early version of Sense, but the name was different) on top of the Windows OS. It was really pointless for me, so I just disabled it(it was much easier back then - Settings > Today > Plugins, and you're ready ) After the Diamond I used an Nokia E51 for a while, and then bought the Desire... a nice phone indeed, but something was not right... After I downloaded and flashed CM6 for the first time I never went back to Sense again, Sense just looks ridiculous to me...
And when I bought the Sensation I used it for around 5 minutes with Sense, just to give it a try, but it was still the same $#!7.
So I, and a lot of other more advanced users, hate Sense. It is what differentiates HTC for the beginner and average user. For the advanced user the competitive advantage of HTC is their materials and build quality. And and HTC makes a great device to run CyanogenMod on(the best Android distro).
PS The Nexus S is a great phone, but I wanted the extra screen real estate and the dual-core CPU. The Galaxy Nexus is even better, but it wasn't available when I bought my Sensation. The HTC Nexus One was available when I bought my Desire, but it was 120 Euro more expensive, and I really dislike capacitive buttons(sadly, they seem to be the standard these days)
So this is basically why someone would buy HTC, and hate Sense
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Sense 3.0 is the thing what made me buy HTC Sensation... believe me, even my wife bought a Xperia Arc "after" using my old Desire HD for a while... and she made me sell it at a loss after a weeks time...and got a Sensation XE...
If you hate Sense so much, go for SII ..... but i simply cannot live without Sense ... there is so much in it...
Why should I buy SII when I don't like the hardware? Crappy plastic, horribly light, otherwise a decent phone. I don't mind Sense being loaded when I buy the phone, as long as I can install whatever I want after that. After all I do realize that Sense is a major selling point for HTC. A lot of non-technical users love it, and there is nothing wrong with that. A lot of non-technical users also like Windows, and that's why the PC business is what it is today, but still I wouldn't use it even for a day
Also, when you say that there is so much in Sense you obviously haven't tried CyanogenMod... there are settings and customizations which I(and probably you also) didn't even suspected to exist, while using Sense...
Have a nice day, and use whatever makes more sense to you, after all that's why we use an open system
Not all HTC phones have Sense. I guess you miss my post about having a Nexus One? That is an HTC phone.. No sense, just native Android, and it was flawless. I had 4 samsung galaxys and they all had problems within 4 months and 1 of them lasted 2.5 months before it failed. So basically I had 1 fail after 2 months then every one after that had issues within a few days to a week of getting it in the mail. After reading the reviews of the galaxy nexus, i am not interested. Same cheap feel as the current and previous galaxy and they still have the same problems as the previous versions. I just read a thread about how tapping the galaxy nexus phone causes it to buzz/vibrate. I had the same problem with 2 of my galaxy phones, not to mention none of them worked with GPS even after installing the samsung "fix", and then resorting to changing the server settings ect.. Samsung makes great displays, too bad the only quality part is the screen. This phone was sent to me as a replacement to my galaxy so I really didnt buy it. Other than HTC, at this point there really is no alternative. In my opinion no other manufacturer makes a quality phone so that is why i choose HTC as a manufacturer. I also knew if I didnt like the phone, once rooting was available I could root it and install native android which is why I am here.
To everyone arguing why sense is good: Just because YOU like sense doesn't mean the rest of us do. Why are you even responding in this thread? The name of this thread isnt "Convince me why Sense is good" If you aren't going to provide information relative to the topic, please stop responding. Your responses are starting to turn this thread into an argument and that is not the intention of this thread.
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Just because YOU like sense doesn't mean the rest of us do. Why are you even responding in this thread? The name of this thread isnt "Convince me why Sense is good" If you aren't going to provide information relative to the topic, please stop responding. Your responses are starting to turn this thread into an argument and that is not the intention of this thread.
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woah! Sounds like you're going to pop a blood vessel! If you hate sense that much.. You can use the "no-sense" scripts which should do the job for the most part! You wouldn't have to deal with that stupid ring haha, try that. You lose most sense features (which isn't what you're looking for anyway) and it's still good! Some guys have developed roms that they just get rid of sense for. Check those out once you root your phone. I would advise not going for ICS yet or the roms with sense 3.5 until they're stable (That's just my opinion though) Sense 3.0 gives me 1day + of battery life and I'm not even being careful with it. Sense 3.5 gives about 18 hours with less usage and effs with my gps a bit. When you root it, my suggestion is sense 3.0 rom DE-SENSED and go from there!
The guy who posted right after you showed you what to do as well and that's for ICS
For answering the phone, u may either drag the answer call ball into the ring
or just simply drag the ring like unlocking the phone
Sense is HTC's biggest weapon
without sense, HTC may die decades ago
I guess that makes sense. I never really noticed their hardware was that much better, but sounds solid to me.
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woah! Sounds like you're going to pop a blood vessel! If you hate sense that much.. You can use the "no-sense" scripts which should do the job for the most part! You wouldn't have to deal with that stupid ring haha, try that. You lose most sense features (which isn't what you're looking for anyway) and it's still good! Some guys have developed roms that they just get rid of sense for. Check those out once you root your phone. I would advise not going for ICS yet or the roms with sense 3.5 until they're stable (That's just my opinion though) Sense 3.0 gives me 1day + of battery life and I'm not even being careful with it. Sense 3.5 gives about 18 hours with less usage and effs with my gps a bit. When you root it, my suggestion is sense 3.0 rom DE-SENSED and go from there!
The guy who posted right after you showed you what to do as well and that's for ICS
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No, not mad at all but Im sure you saw only 1 post was on topic, (the one you mentioned and the one below was kind of on topic) the others were people trying to explain why they like sense and basically telling me if I didnt like sense I should have bought a samsung. I have had this phone for 6 months, and gave it a chance (which was stated in the first post). I have used sense for 6 months and I still dont like it. I don't need other peoples opinion on why sense is good, or how their wife made them sell their phone. What does any of that have to do with me rooting my phone and installing ICS, or a rom without sense? None of those replies address the point of this thread. I want this thread to stay on track, not turn into a "I love sense" VS "I hate sense thread". I think its pretty obvious, that is the direction it was headed.
Thank you for the information. I will probably try simply removing sense from the phone first as you suggested. I dont need ICS, I just figured since I was going to root, ICS would be better. I also know ICS is coming soon with OTA. I might simply wait for that, then remove sense. I am assuming the script will work for the OTA since it works to remove sense 3.5 from the current rom floating around.
See how you get on with CM7. It's not ICS and development may have ceased in favour of CM9, but for me it's clean, fast and solid.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1258543
holy crap thats a long thread... 500+ pages? WOW! Seems like a lot of people are using that. Thanks!!!
Everybody throws around the word intuitive. I like the way the lock ring works, and do find it intuitive to me. For others. Not so much. For those who have no desire to figure anything out for themselves, and would rather be told every move to make, then there is an entire company dedicated to doing just that. The name rymes with Snapple
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rumors are rumors. there was a thread or post somewhere stating that sense on ics will toned/slimmed down since ics already has most of the features. I believe sense 3.5 was added to ics so they can work out the bugs. Well only time will tell though. Lets just see when it gets release lol.
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Everybody throws around the word intuitive. I like the way the lock ring works, and do find it intuitive to me. For others. Not so much. For those who have no desire to figure anything out for themselves, and would rather be told every move to make, then there is an entire company dedicated to doing just that. The name rymes with Snapple
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While I respect your opinion, I have to disagree. But again I dont understand why this is becoming a "Why I like sense" thread...
The rings are not intuitive. It requires you be familiar with the phone (which by definition makes it not intuitive) and as much as I dislike the Iphone and apple products in general, I can pick up any Iphone no matter what generation and use it without issue, and I sure as heck dont have to "figure out" how to answer the phone when it rings. Same goes for any native android phone, but the vast majority of people who pick up my phone have to ask how to unlock it. Having a red decline button and a green answer button requiring them to be pulled into a ring is not intuitive. However, a green button that says answer and a red button that says decline that you press to perform the action stated on the button, I find intuitive. I have no problem answering the phone, or using the phone, but I have found certain things about sense I just dislike as a whole, especially after using native android on my nexus one. The lock/unlock ring, and answer buttons are just the tip of the iceberg. In my opinion, all android phones should have the option to use native android, or the manufacturers GUI and I hope Google implements that.
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To everyone arguing why sense is good: Just because YOU like sense doesn't mean the rest of us do. Why are you even responding in this thread? The name of this thread isnt "Convince me why Sense is good" If you aren't going to provide information relative to the topic, please stop responding. Your responses are starting to turn this thread into an argument and that is not the intention of this thread.
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Dude. Calm down. I don't particularly like Sense either, but it sure is pretty and fun to play around with for a bit.
The bad news is there's no real 'native' (I assume you mean AOSP) ICS out there yet. There's the 'Voldemort ROM' that we're not allowed to discuss or link to here, but it's not usable yet. If you're really desperate for ICS, you could try out Virtuous Inquisition from the development section. It's the Sense-ICS leak but it's had almost all of Sense stripped out. It's far far better than I was expecting it to be, but it's not without its bugs.
Your best bet would be to just install CyanogenMod 7 and wait for KMobs to release CM9 for us - when it's ready.
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Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas and happy new year in advance. I pray to God that our Sensation should get all the upgrades as early as possible like native ics.
Having owned an original HTC Desire, there are huge advantages to rooting it etc. It's biggest fault was its poor internal memory storage therefore low disk space was always an issue when it came to installing apps as stock. Therefore rooting allows use of the EXT of the sd card thus increase memory available. In addition, the Desire was left behind restricted to Froyo with only a poor Gingerbread and lacking sense 3.0 update to be released by HTC.
But now after becoming the owner of a Desire S I am less inclined to mod it! These previous issues are gone, with 1GB of internal storage it is far more than sufficient. Gingerbread and Sense 3.0 is the shipped software, with lets be honest not a whole of difference in comparison to 3.5.
Overclocking is never something I have seen necessary, my Saga runs smooth and I don't experience any lag etc so this bonus with rooting I have no interest with.
Therefore I propose to you, why made you decide to root and flash custom roms on your Saga?
What benefits have they brought that you believe are essential? Or are you just a bit of a modding junkie
Thanks for taking your time to read my thread, I hope you guys can share with me some of your opinions and feedback received here can help less eager users like myself!
I just hated Sense...
+1. I bought the phone because it was cheaper than the equivalent phone from another company. Also the build quality was much better. Although I didn't mind sense I planned to switch to cyanogenmod as soon as it became available (thanks superkid )
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Well, for me it was something completely opposite of you both, i wanted Sense 3 on my device with the awesome lockscreen and carousel-like home screen. I first saw that on my friend's DHD, who helped me A LOT in flashing my first ROM.
I too came from a Desire... And I too was impressed by the improvement the Desire S is compared to the Desire. It was very good just out of the box.
However, I missed the little tweaks I made using the miui rom. For some reason I felt the Miui rom to be more intuitive, more adaptable to my quircky needs... With the Miui rom I can just tweak the way it looks more precisely. I want another lock screen, fine, just change the lock screen. Another launcher, another font, another .... you get the drift.
I was a great fan of Sense. Tried several CM and non-sense roms, but I just ended up missing Sense. The non-sense were lightning fast, but still missed the good feel of sense. Then I tried Miui and now I wonder where the rom was all that time...
That's why I Rom my DesireS...
Grtz,
J.
I love build quality of HTC phones and extremely hate anything that is overbloated. Sense is a queen of bloatware. It was nice to have it on HTC Hero (v1,6) UNTIL i've found CyanogenMod. Since than all my phones (Hero, Legend, G2, *Failation*, DS) were powered by CM. Fast, functional and simple. This what Android is meant to be.
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I started because I knew virgin would take forever to release sense 3.0 update
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Many reasons:
Get rid of operator software
Get rid of HTC Sense
Overclocking
Upgrade to the newest Android Version
Other minor reasons: remote control, screen captures...
First of all: Titanium backup (which requires root).
The phone before my Desire S was also running android, so I wanted to restore my apps.
Reason 2: Custom roms + custom recovery.
I wanted to try out sense 3.0 (The official update was way later than a fully working custom ROM) and custom ROM's tend to have better performance and more fixes compared to official releases due to custom kernels etc.
Reason 3: Remove bloatware
Reason 4: Make all apps work, even those that require root.
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Having owned an original HTC Desire, there are huge advantages to rooting it etc. It's biggest fault was its poor internal memory storage therefore low disk space was always an issue when it came to installing apps as stock. Therefore rooting allows use of the EXT of the sd card thus increase memory available. In addition, the Desire was left behind restricted to Froyo with only a poor Gingerbread and lacking sense 3.0 update to be released by HTC.
But now after becoming the owner of a Desire S I am less inclined to mod it! These previous issues are gone, with 1GB of internal storage it is far more than sufficient. Gingerbread and Sense 3.0 is the shipped software, with lets be honest not a whole of difference in comparison to 3.5.
Overclocking is never something I have seen necessary, my Saga runs smooth and I don't experience any lag etc so this bonus with rooting I have no interest with.
Therefore I propose to you, why made you decide to root and flash custom roms on your Saga?
What benefits have they brought that you believe are essential? Or are you just a bit of a modding junkie
Thanks for taking your time to read my thread, I hope you guys can share with me some of your opinions and feedback received here can help less eager users like myself!
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With Desire S stock - 100% satisfied
Modded Desire S - 200% satisfied.
Also I recommend sense 3.5, much much better than 3.0. It adds more functionality
It's been tweaked a hell lot better and about 50% faster than 3.0. Trust me. You will feel the difference.
Trust me, I was like you when I first got my desire S.
It did all I wanted. What more could I want?
Then I decided to just try rooting and see what it was like.
Then after rooting, with ROMs etc, it made the phone much much better.
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1. i'm new to rooting/flashing android phones. my phone prior to the DS was the Wildfire. I had it for a little over a year and it remains 100% stock to this day so i wanted to experiment on the DS. I was originally gonna go for the Sensation XE was since I'm new to rooting, It'd hurt less if i bricked the DS compared to the Sensation XE
2. to get rid of the extra stuff like plurk, twitter etc that i don't even use.
3. it's FUN!
Because once you started s-offing and rooting and changing roms, you wont be able to stop. Because there are some feelings that came with it. Escpecially overclocking thing.
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i haven't tried overclocking my DS just yet. I dunno, maybe it's just not my thing but to each his own i'm sure i'll give it a whirl just to test it. but gotta read up on it a lot first before i actually try it. ROM wise, i'm currently using Endymion 3.1 and it's VERY nice indeed happy new year in advance to everyone
theres nothing to worry if you overclock your ds. i tried to overclocked my phone up to 1.6ghz and battery temp is still at 34. Im currently on MikRunny Rom
olyloh6696 said:
With Desire S stock - 100% satisfied
Modded Desire S - 200% satisfied.
Also I recommend sense 3.5, much much better than 3.0. It adds more functionality
It's been tweaked a hell lot better and about 50% faster than 3.0. Trust me. You will feel the difference.
Trust me, I was like you when I first got my desire S.
It did all I wanted. What more could I want?
Then I decided to just try rooting and see what it was like.
Then after rooting, with ROMs etc, it made the phone much much better.
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I am really tempted to try a Sense 3.5 rom, it does appear that HTC have refined it a lot more
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I am really tempted to try a Sense 3.5 rom, it does appear that HTC have refined it a lot more
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Do it
you won't regret it
or just use 3.0 for a while longer and see where you would like improvements, then when you get bored use 3.5
I rooted because T-mobile took ages to update to Sense 3, and I new ICS was coming and I would want to switch to CM9 asap. Now running Superkid/MDJ's ROM, despite a few bugs very usable, no going back for me, only forward to a (once again) fully working ROM. Also, I thought Sense 2.5 was quite fluent, appreciated the more fluent sense 3.0, but it lags like hell compared to AOSP ICS
1. Apps, that needs ROOT.
2. Other ROMS, i always was interested in MIUI ROM.
3. Now ICS, I probably won't come back to Sense (maybe to 4.0)
One of the main reasons why i got into the unlocking and rooting business is because i hate being told what i cannot do with my own stuff. Kinda stinks "Apple" all over, and i hate that kind of cheap marketing. i bought a device with an open-source operating system for what? To be told that since my device has a non-open-source custom UI, i can't experiment with it (despite buying it out to the last penny)?
Screw that. I just wanted to S-Off and root for the heck of it. Hell, when i did that, there weren't even any good ROMs available for the DS, except a couple that i never liked much anyway. My reasons for S-off and rooting today have matured and changed from those days...but i still remember the anger i felt when i had found about s-on after purchasing my phone... (this was my first android, and i didn't know ANYTHING!!). But look at where we've come today...we have one of the the best performing beta ICS on any device, and if it were not for the camera, it would be good enough to be released as stable!
Would we have gotten this far with a locked bootloader?
So why did i root? Because HTC said i couldn't.
Because of apps which need root, because to get rid of bloatware which comes with Sense, because I simply wanted to do it.
I've started with CM, but I couldn't fix the GPS issue so I switched to some Runny ROMS. Now I'm a happy user of MIUI, which is for me the best mobile experience in my life
It's too bad that by the time a real (fully working) AOSP ROM drops for this phone I will already be on my next device. I purchased my original Sensation (now on my 4th or 5th due to dust issues...) back in June of last year. CM7 was always half baked, and although it was my daily it was never really 100% complete. Not to mention they never released an official CM7 for the Sensation.. But anyway, now CM9 is "in progress" but my biggest fear is that it will be 4 to 6 months (at LEAST) before a fully stable, working, reliable AOSP ROM (CM9 or otherwise) is released for our device. The most unfortunate part is that the hardware as a whole is certainly capable, and the devs are certainly good, but it will most likely be a case of "too little too late" for me. I have my eye on a true STOCK device such as the Nexus line, as that will really be the only way to go in the future. The main reasons are as follows, let me know if others agree
1) Almost instant (not really, but you get my point!) updates from Google
2) Those same updates can immediately be applied by Dev's for even more fun!
3) NO SENSE
4) NO SENSE to remove
5) Did I mention those phones don't have Sense???
I am with you. Though Virtuous has relatively decent ICS ROM that I am using, almost no trace of Sense.
Actually considering Galaxy Nexus now, on dailysteaps for $530 today.
Not sure wife will approve since she is still on Vibrant.
If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
erto90 said:
If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
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Mehh I hate sense but I'm gonna buy a phone that was made for sense
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erto90 said:
If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
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Its a good question, and the reason was I simply did not know how awful Sense was. This was my second Android phone, and my first was a bone stock (and loving it!) G2 made as Google intended it to be. I honestly had no concept of the horrifying abomination that Sense is. It was beyond my comprehension that HTC would bother to not only create that beast (sense), but to make it so hard to remove. I loved the hardware build of my first HTC phone and I just assumed Sense would be minor cosmetic changes, clearly I was VERY wrong and should have done much more work before selecting a new device. Also, at the time I purchased the Sensation the hardware was top notch, and it was the most powerful device you could find. Immediately upon powering it on and seeing Sense however, I realized the gravity of my mistake.....
Hmm well. i dont the blame the guy cause.......
This is my first HTC. on the galaxy s side sense use to look like the best android rom ever! we only ever dreamt to get sense 2.1 on our device.
Now that i got sensation with sense 3.0 it was a disaster.
The ui was good but toooooooooooooooooo memory hogging and then all of a sudden i realise samsung majorly improve touchwiz and it looks amazing, the day i slapped myself and what makes it worse is the fact the amount of support the galaxy s 2 is getting compared to our phone
Now my next phone is galaxy s 3 definitely.
however now everything is starting to look so much better tbh because and solely because of trip and only 10% virtuous team and shinzon.
he has had massive breakthroughs with our phone recently. he just released 95% stable fully working sense 4 rom which i think is much more optimised than sense 3.0
and now that he has almost everything working on his aosp tripndroid os rom including bluetooth apart from video recording we are in good shape
CALL ME A TRIP FANBOY IDC <3
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Hmm well. i dont the blame the guy cause.......
This is my first HTC. on the galaxy s side sense use to look like the best android rom ever! we only ever dreamt to get sense 2.1 on our device.
Now that i got sensation with sense 3.0 it was a disaster.
The ui was good but toooooooooooooooooo memory hogging and then all of a sudden i realise samsung majorly improve touchwiz and it looks amazing, the day i slapped myself and what makes it worse is the fact the amount of support the galaxy s 2 is getting compared to our phone
Now my next phone is galaxy s 3 definitely.
however now everything is starting to look so much better tbh because and solely because of trip and only 10% virtuous team and shinzon.
he has had massive breakthroughs with our phone recently. he just released 95% stable fully working sense 4 rom which i think is much more optimised than sense 3.0
and now that he has almost everything working on his aosp tripndroid os rom including bluetooth apart from video recording we are in good shape
CALL ME A TRIP FANBOY IDC <3
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Video cording works. Just not takijg pics while recording
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The true truth is that
Who have sense, sometimes hate it and search for aosp
The others are jelous of sense and always ask for porting on their samsung,lg etc here and there..
Is the mad truth
The neighbor's grass is always the more green ( ok sorry for the ported dict )
webstar1 said:
however now everything is starting to look so much better tbh because and solely because of trip and only 10% virtuous team and shinzon.
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That's laughable. Virtuous Inquisition is probably the best AOSP-like ROM out right now and Trip had nothing to do with it.
Hope you enjoy your new phone OP!
Let us know when you get one, and I have to agree with you, the lack of a true senseless rom is pretty much non-existent for this phone. Nonetheless, enjoy your day!
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If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
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why? Because I REFUSE to buy a samsung. (although I'm starting to change my mind for the gal nex now). I bought this phone simply for the hardware, not the UI. Just cause you got a phone for a reason, doesn't mean other's have to be the same.
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If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
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My Vibrant started hardware malfunction on data radio in June and at that time HTC Sensation seemed to be a high end choice, just came out with dual core, good camera, etc. I had G1 prior to Vibrant which was made by HTC ( as did my wife and teen) and they were well built and had a good hardware. Little did I know of all the keylogger and other goodies baked into Sensation, should have taken Nexus S instead in a hindsight.
The phone is not too bad with Virtuous ICS ROM now, but in future I will go for Nexus devices, no matter if CPU/GPU not the latest or greatest. Still conidering that Galaxy Nexus dailysteals deal for $530 running today.
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do not get the galaxy nexus. if you have the sensation, use it until like september november. because thats when all the good phones are rolling out.
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do not get the galaxy nexus. if you have the sensation, use it until like september november. because thats when all the good phones are rolling out.
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Wouldn't next nexus phone on tmobile be at least a year away from now?
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i want to jump ship to the Galaxy Nexus because of the same reasons (ie lack of AOSP dev support on the Sensation)... however, the crappy camera on the g.nex is really of putting to me since i use the camera daily.
i think i will wait to see how the galaxy s3, xperia s, and the htc one all do before upgrading... my priorities for my next phone are:
- Krait or Tegra3
- at least 300ppi
- strong AOSP dev support ie unlocked bootloader
- 720p and OLED a huge plus
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erto90 said:
The true truth is that
Who have sense, sometimes hate it and search for aosp
The others are jelous of sense and always ask for porting on their samsung,lg etc here and there..
Is the mad truth
The neighbor's grass is always the more green ( ok sorry for the ported dict )
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No, sense is awful and so is touchwiz and motoblur
i would take an iphone over sense
lol there always apple unlock your phone sell it for a apple iphone and be gone stop crying dev do what they can you want it fast learn to do what they do
This must be the 15th threat opened for complaining about the Sensation not having dev support, being slow,having bad build quality and a bad screen etc! You people gather your complaints in one threat and leave these forums clean for the rest of us who enjoy this phone. Virtuous Inq provides a 95% AOSP look and feel unless upu want to tell your friends that you have a "true" AOSP!
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This must be the 15th threat opened for complaining about the Sensation not having dev support, being slow,having bad build quality and a bad screen etc! You people gather your complaints in one threat and leave these forums clean for the rest of us who enjoy this phone. Virtuous Inq provides a 95% AOSP look and feel unless upu want to tell your friends that you have a "true" AOSP!
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Sorry but no. It fells totally different for me. I tell myself its aosp but I just don't buy it. No matter how close it is to aosp, its not. Until you've tried the true feel and power of a complete aosp build, don't say its the same.
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That's laughable. Virtuous Inquisition is probably the best AOSP-like ROM out right now and Trip had nothing to do with it.
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Who was the first to bring aosp ics first to sensation?
Who ported a fully stable sense 4 rom?
Who ported miui v4 first?
Who's got everything working on aosp?
Then vorbeth calls trip a kanger on twitter and then says that's why he doesn't release his sources. Well if he did, we would see them posting there work.
And vorbeth is becoming big headed on twitter cause he can compile cm9 from source? There's a step by step tutorial in the development section so even new users can easily build.
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Since this is turning into another trip related discussion you can discuss about it in some other forum.
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Final warning to everyone.
Dont discuss about :supposed kanging concerning Roms that dont have a thread on XDA.
All,
looking for insight regarding currently available ROM's that would offer the closest thing to CM9 (from what I’ve read CM9 is only available on Tegra3 handsets)? Looking for a 'stock android experience' or AOSP based build... your suggestions are much appreciated.
currently unlocked, running 1.85FW, with CWT recovery...
many thanx,
The closest thing available right now would probably be CleanROM Dev edition 2.0. Check it out in the development section.
CleanROM DE 2 is what I'm running and it's great. It's pretty clean.
Thanks for the input, been running CleanRom v2.2 since yesterday afternoon, and I must say not very impressive at all... guess I’ll just need to keep waiting for that true android experience I crave so badly.
The change log listed for CleanRom v2.2. does not give any indication that carrierIQ has been removed (which is another huge disappointment for this ROM)
any idea how long we're looking at for a decent AOSP ROM to be released? month? two months?
100%digital said:
Thanks for the input, been running CleanRom v2.2 since yesterday afternoon, and I must say not very impressive at all... guess I’ll just need to keep waiting for that true android experience I crave so badly.
The change log listed for CleanRom v2.2. does not give any indication that carrierIQ has been removed (which is another huge disappointment for this ROM)
any idea how long we're looking at for a decent AOSP ROM to be released? month? two months?
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Clean ROM DE is different from what you are running. Check the dev section. As for an AOSP ROM...who knows. There are a lot of factors involved.
Rabble rabble rabble.
If I understand correctly, you'll have to wait until we get S-Off so we can flash boot.img. Once that's achieved, it will be possible to flash full ROM's. But there are still a lot of things that need to be figured out, like getting the camera working, Wifi, GPS, data, etc.
Maybe the Cyanogenmod developers will get lucky and it'll work out of the box.
jmattp said:
Maybe the Cyanogenmod developers will get lucky and it'll work out of the box.
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You know that never happens =)
jmattp said:
If I understand correctly, you'll have to wait until we get S-Off so we can flash boot.img. Once that's achieved, it will be possible to flash full ROM's. But there are still a lot of things that need to be figured out, like getting the camera working, Wifi, GPS, data, etc.
Maybe the Cyanogenmod developers will get lucky and it'll work out of the box.
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That's not correct. We can flash boot images just fine through fastboot now. Just need s-off to flash kernels through recovery. Once HTC releases the source for our phone more ROMs will follow, including AOSP ROMs I'm sure. Source is needed to help create custom kernels.
I've never understood that rationale, buy an HTC phone that you know will be packed with sense etc then go back in time to bare bones android. Why not save your money and buy something like a Samsung, Motorola, LG, etc. With a barebones android os? Lol my rant
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eraste said:
I've never understood that rationale, buy an HTC phone that you know will be packed with sense etc then go back in time to bare bones android. Why not save your money and buy something like a Samsung, Motorola, LG, etc. With a barebones android os? Lol my rant
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Because the only device running stock Android 4.0 is the Galaxy Nexus. I've gone through several of them and they all had the same purple tint, weird crosshatch pattern visible on white images, distortion/noise at low brightness, and other issues related to the Pentile SAMOLED display. Besides that, I can't think of any other device that runs stock Android.
I especially can't think of any Android phones that look as nice as the One X. I like its unibody construction, machined earpiece grill, soft-touch case (the black one anyway, not sure if the white is glossy), the way the glass is slightly above the case like old iPod Nano, and the display itself is really good.
Before Ice Cream Sandiwch, we had maybe the Motorola Droid, the Nexus One, and then the Nexus S. I hate physical keyboards, the Droid was out. Currently, there aren't many choices if you want a vanilla Android device. Actually... there's only one, and the display is a disappointment to me.
In my opinion, the best Android phone available right now is the One X. Knowing that developers are always making custom ROM's for the majority of Android devices, I know that I don't need to let the software dictate my purchasing decision.
eraste said:
I've never understood that rationale, buy an HTC phone that you know will be packed with sense etc then go back in time to bare bones android. Why not save your money and buy something like a Samsung, Motorola, LG, etc. With a barebones android os? Lol my rant
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You realize those manufacturers slap their own crap on top of stock android too, right? Samsung - TouchWiz, Moto - Blur, LG - Whatever the heck they do. Unless you're buying a Nexus device then you're getting a manufacturer skin.
Personally, I buy for the hardware. Though, the stock software has to be tolerable enough to last me until custom roms start coming out.
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That's not correct. We can flash boot images just fine through fastboot now. Just need s-off to flash kernels through recovery. Once HTC releases the source for our phone more ROMs will follow, including AOSP ROMs I'm sure. Source is needed to help create custom kernels.
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so without nand access the One X isn't going to see any AOSP builds? I’m not sure I entirely understand how nand is that important... I mean if you can boot a your own ROM, who cares.
Does HTC typically release the source for their phones as ‘pside15’ indicated that is an important factor in creating ROMs?
Seems like the Cyanogenmod team already has AOSP build for the Tegra handset. HTC One X (with Tegra) source isn’t released…
pside15 said:
That's not correct. We can flash boot images just fine through fastboot now. Just need s-off to flash kernels through recovery. Once HTC releases the source for our phone more ROMs will follow, including AOSP ROMs I'm sure. Source is needed to help create custom kernels.
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Thanks for the correction.
100%digital said:
Thanks for the input, been running CleanRom v2.2 since yesterday afternoon, and I must say not very impressive at all... guess I’ll just need to keep waiting for that true android experience I crave so badly.
The change log listed for CleanRom v2.2. does not give any indication that carrierIQ has been removed (which is another huge disappointment for this ROM)
any idea how long we're looking at for a decent AOSP ROM to be released? month? two months?
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qft.
I LOVE the htc one x for the hardware and its physical appeal, but i also cant wait for some stock android ROMs. The aroma one thats out gets pretty darn close, but its no CM9. Im hoping that in the next two weeks with our new freedom with the unlocked bootloader etc etc.. that we will get more than 2 roms... thats ALL I see currently in the dev section. I shouldnt complain though because obviously I'm no dev.
I feel like the AT&T version was a waste of my money though :/ it just doesnt have enough attention. The only reason I have it instead of the tegra 3 is because of the battery and lte. Otherwise there is literally no other reason I should keep this phone. Does anyone know if the battery life has been improved at all for the international version?
dufort said:
qft.
I LOVE the htc one x for the hardware and its physical appeal, but i also cant wait for some stock android ROMs. The aroma one thats out gets pretty darn close, but its no CM9. Im hoping that in the next two weeks with our new freedom with the unlocked bootloader etc etc.. that we will get more than 2 roms... thats ALL I see currently in the dev section. I shouldnt complain though because obviously I'm no dev.
I feel like the AT&T version was a waste of my money though :/ it just doesnt have enough attention. The only reason I have it instead of the tegra 3 is because of the battery and lte. Otherwise there is literally no other reason I should keep this phone. Does anyone know if the battery life has been improved at all for the international version?
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I'm working on one myself....but because I do not want to release trash and because I have been limited on time over the last week or two...I have not released yet. Sit tight and chill out. Phone hasnt even been out for a month yet...
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Good to see you h8 I liked your stuff on the infuse you taught me a lot
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I'm working on one myself....but because I do not want to release trash and because I have been limited on time over the last week or two...I have not released yet. Sit tight and chill out. Phone hasnt even been out for a month yet...
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Oh I'm sitting tight, stoked to see what the future is with this device. Just had to vent a bit :banghead:
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so without nand access the One X isn't going to see any AOSP builds? I’m not sure I entirely understand how nand is that important... I mean if you can boot a your own ROM, who cares.
Does HTC typically release the source for their phones as ‘pside15’ indicated that is an important factor in creating ROMs?
Seems like the Cyanogenmod team already has AOSP build for the Tegra handset. HTC One X (with Tegra) source isn’t released…
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Source has been released for one x tegra...
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There are only so many ways you can debloat the stock roms lol.
Things will pick up once the source is released and devs can start going crazy.
+1
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Because the only device running stock Android 4.0 is the Galaxy Nexus. I've gone through several of them and they all had the same purple tint, weird crosshatch pattern visible on white images, distortion/noise at low brightness, and other issues related to the Pentile SAMOLED display. Besides that, I can't think of any other device that runs stock Android.
I especially can't think of any Android phones that look as nice as the One X. I like its unibody construction, machined earpiece grill, soft-touch case (the black one anyway, not sure if the white is glossy), the way the glass is slightly above the case like old iPod Nano, and the display itself is really good.
Before Ice Cream Sandiwch, we had maybe the Motorola Droid, the Nexus One, and then the Nexus S. I hate physical keyboards, the Droid was out. Currently, there aren't many choices if you want a vanilla Android device. Actually... there's only one, and the display is a disappointment to me.
In my opinion, the best Android phone available right now is the One X. Knowing that developers are always making custom ROM's for the majority of Android devices, I know that I don't need to let the software dictate my purchasing decision.
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Exactly!