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ok, so on my tmo plan i got a deal where if i got the 5gb plan for 30 a month they threw in free tethering and free wifi calling
my question is, with using rooted roms, do i need to have those on my plan? in other words, if i drop my data plan to 2gb a month i loose the free wifi and tethering but i though or read somewhere that using a rooted rom i have those functions anyway
wifi calling is a free utility with this phone I thought (stock or not, doesn't matter) the tether is something they are cracking down on, ways around it with root and something to do with chrome look in the threads around about tethering stopped.
so if i used a wifi tethering app i would not need to have tethering on my plan with t-mobile?
they may still catch it and block you but I read there is a setting oyou can change within your desktop browser to allow it.
you mean the browser on the device you are connecting to your phone?
I don't know if they have started charging for free Wi-Fi Calling. That sounds like an oxymoron, but it isn't quite. "Free Wi-Fi Calling" means that minutes used during Wi-Fi Calling are not counted against your monthly allotment. The last I heard (as recently as January, when I had it turned on for my account), they didn't charge for it. If they've changed, it should be called "unlimited Wi-Fi Calling" instead of "free". In either event, you can use it if you have the app in your ROM; the only difference is whether the minutes get charged against your monthly allotment or not.
Being rooted has no effect on the T-Mobile enforcement of your Terms of Service that forbid you to use tethering without a tethering plan. They are apparently now detecting some PC browser user agent strings (reportedly Internet Explorer and Chrome, but not Firefox, for some reason) and blocking access via those browsers by redirecting you to an advertisement for their tethering plan. If you're doing non-browser things (ssh, email, etc.), they probably won't detect that you're tethering. It's reported that changing the browser's user agent string to something other than the default circumvents the T-Mobile detection, although if you use an android browser string, naturally you'll end up on mostly mobile versions of the sites you visit. It's also likely that if you're using a VPN and proxy, that will also prevent their detection of your tethering.
I'm still using 2.2.2 stock. When I connect via WiFi, a banner pops up stating calling on WiFi counts against your normal minutes. In other words, your call plan minutes apply with either their towers or WiFi. Makes some sense, as you have to use their Call Manager/Session Manager to route the call...
Just port your number to Google Voice and use Groove IP or Talkatone, currently the top VoIP apps for Android.
wmm said:
I don't know if they have started charging for free Wi-Fi Calling. That sounds like an oxymoron, but it isn't quite. "Free Wi-Fi Calling" means that minutes used during Wi-Fi Calling are not counted against your monthly allotment. The last I heard (as recently as January, when I had it turned on for my account), they didn't charge for it. If they've changed, it should be called "unlimited Wi-Fi Calling" instead of "free". In either event, you can use it if you have the app in your ROM; the only difference is whether the minutes get charged against your monthly allotment or not.
Being rooted has no effect on the T-Mobile enforcement of your Terms of Service that forbid you to use tethering without a tethering plan. They are apparently now detecting some PC browser user agent strings (reportedly Internet Explorer and Chrome, but not Firefox, for some reason) and blocking access via those browsers by redirecting you to an advertisement for their tethering plan. If you're doing non-browser things (ssh, email, etc.), they probably won't detect that you're tethering. It's reported that changing the browser's user agent string to something other than the default circumvents the T-Mobile detection, although if you use an android browser string, naturally you'll end up on mostly mobile versions of the sites you visit. It's also likely that if you're using a VPN and proxy, that will also prevent their detection of your tethering.
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that makes the most sense and i have also read that about changing the user agent string. but if im tethering an android tablet would there be anything to change? that was my goal with wifi tethering, use my phone as a hotspot for my tablet (when i finally get one)
dodgefan67 said:
ok, so on my tmo plan i got a deal where if i got the 5gb plan for 30 a month they threw in free tethering and free wifi calling
my question is, with using rooted roms, do i need to have those on my plan? in other words, if i drop my data plan to 2gb a month i loose the free wifi and tethering but i though or read somewhere that using a rooted rom i have those functions anyway
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T-Mobile is cracking down lately. Regardless of what ROM you are running, if you drop your free tethering plan, you are going to have to screw around with changing the User Agent on your laptop/tablet to avoid being blocked.
I use my phone for tethering with the tablet. You'll use the 5gb once you start doin it. They charge for the tethering plan now, so you're better off leaving it so you'll be grandfathered in for next upgrade.
holy flying tacos batman
Probably a dumb question but what is the benefits of tethering vs wifi hotspot?
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xBkKx said:
Probably a dumb question but what is the benefits of tethering vs wifi hotspot?
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You may not always be near a WiFi hotspot. The park, the beach, working in your car, etc.
xBkKx said:
Probably a dumb question but what is the benefits of tethering vs wifi hotspot?
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there are two ways to tether a device, usb and wifi. usb is obvious, you connect your phone to your laptop and your laptop uses your phone like a modem or router to get internet access
wifi hotspot is the same just through wifi, its like your wireless router at home
think usb tethering=network cable, wifi tethering=wireless router
Well I meant this phone has wifi hotspot on it why not use that vs tethering or does it still amount to that in terms of data usage?
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xBkKx said:
Well I meant this phone has wifi hotspot on it why not use that vs tethering or does it still amount to that in terms of data usage?
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i think it doesnt matter
but some devices cant connect to a wifi hotspot, granted most laptops or handheld devices do have wifi, some older laptops may not and may be able to use usb tethering. you can also use it on a pc that probably doesnt have wifi
Ah alright, never used either of them so wasn't sure why everything I see is about tethering on the phone and nothing about the hotspot
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no worries, they are in the same place in the settings, under tethering and wifi hotspot, they kinda do the same thing. i use my wifi hotspot with my kindle fire
I believe on stock ROMs (including rooted), unless you freeze or uninstall some app that TMobile installed that monitors whether you're using tethering or hotspotting. That's their easy way to detect whether you're tethering, they may also sniff your packets for the user agent info, but I'm not sure if they go through that much trouble. Besides most data plans have limits now, they shouldn't care how those gigabytes are used.
namklak said:
I'm still using 2.2.2 stock. When I connect via WiFi, a banner pops up stating calling on WiFi counts against your normal minutes. In other words, your call plan minutes apply with either their towers or WiFi. Makes some sense, as you have to use their Call Manager/Session Manager to route the call...
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In more recent stock ROMs the message has changed to read, "may use minutes with certain plans." As I said, at least as recently as January, free Wi-Fi Calling was a no-charge add-on to the plan -- just call up customer service and ask to have it turned on. (I hadn't bothered before then because I never came close to using up all my minutes, but in January I added my son to my family plan when he switched over from AT&T, and at that point it became important. )
This is a method to make FoxFi fully functional, and to verify that you are not being charged by your carrier. Steps will need to be adjusted based on your carrier and their native tether bloatware, and may depend on your phone. This is based on a 'rizon Slll.
Enable FoxFi:
1. Open FoxFi Key app.
2. Enter Mobile Hotspot from the window shade, as it should show up there automatically.
3. Set up WPA2 encryption.
3. Enable connecting device: You will need to enter the MAC address and name of your connecting computer. You can name it whatever you want; in OS X, the MAC address can be found in WiFi > Network Preferences > Advanced > Hardware.
4. Connect to FoxFi on your computer.
DONE!
Verify that your carrier is not charging you:
1. Enter Mobile Hotspot.
2. Toggle it off.
3. Toggle it on.
4. If you are not being charged, your phone will say that it is checking for service, then a message will appear that you must call your carrier to enable service.
5. Close Mobile Hotspot and FoxFi, as you will no longer be able to use FoxFi after the service check has been completed through Mobile Hotspot.
6. Reopen FoxFi
MEGADONE!!!
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I thought Verizon didn't charge for tethering anyway. Unless some people that still have unlimited data get charged for tethering?
From what I'm aware, Verizon still charges a monthly fee for tethering. I could be wrong, though.
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iXeonX said:
From what I'm aware, Verizon still charges a monthly fee for tethering. I could be wrong, though.
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Tethering is free on Verizon LTE phones. Of coure it will use data from your data plan. Look at Settings->Wireless and network->More Settings->Mobile Hotspot.
You can thank Google's "Open Access" provision when the C Block was being auctioned off.
zoid_99 said:
Tethering is free on Verizon LTE phones. Of coure it will use data from your data plan. Look at Settings->Wireless and network->More Settings->Mobile Hotspot.
You can thank Google's "Open Access" provision when the C Block was being auctioned off.
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I thought the ruling in that tethering case was they couldn't charge customers that are on the new share everything plan and thru couldn't block tethering apps.
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It was explained to me that "grandfathered unlimited accounts" could be charged the $30 tethering mobile hotspot fee. All new shared plans cannot be charged per court decision.
skeeterpro said:
It was explained to me that "grandfathered unlimited accounts" could be charged the $30 tethering mobile hotspot fee. All new shared plans cannot be charged per court decision.
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That's what I thought also.
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hotspot
so for those of us on the unlimited plan, is there a way to disable the " verizon hotspot" from kicking in every time we try to use a 3rd party hotspot provider?
i am running jellybean 4.1.1 and just rooted my phone today and installed titanium pro. yet i can't seem to find anything in there to disable the verizon hotspot from being the primary hotspot app.
any help would be MOST appreciated!:fingers-crossed:
Correct. I still have an unlimited plan from VZ and would be charged for WiFi Hot spot unless i am rooted or can get my FoxFi work around going. Will try this later and hope it works.
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There are tons of different roms that have the hotspot baked into it, I used Beans Build 7, But also if you look in the theme and apps section TrevE wifi tether mod works with 4.1.1.:good:
andrewluera said:
There are tons of different roms that have the hotspot baked into it, I used Beans Build 7, But also if you look in the theme and apps section TrevE wifi tether mod works with 4.1.1.:good:
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Ahh.. A breath of fresh air in a sea of diarrhea.
my tapatalk signature sucks more than yours.
Nice!
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Has anyone tried this with the recent christmas jb update to Razr/Razr Maxx ? I have the jb update downloaded, but have been hesitant to install because of the broken jb issue.
graphingabacus said:
This is a method to make FoxFi fully functional, and to verify that you are not being charged by your carrier. Steps will need to be adjusted based on your carrier and their native tether bloatware, and may depend on your phone. This is based on a 'rizon Slll.
Enable FoxFi:
1. Open FoxFi Key app.
2. Enter Mobile Hotspot from the window shade, as it should show up there automatically.
3. Set up WPA2 encryption.
3. Enable connecting device: You will need to enter the MAC address and name of your connecting computer. You can name it whatever you want; in OS X, the MAC address can be found in WiFi > Network Preferences > Advanced > Hardware.
4. Connect to FoxFi on your computer.
DONE!
Verify that your carrier is not charging you:
1. Enter Mobile Hotspot.
2. Toggle it off.
3. Toggle it on.
4. If you are not being charged, your phone will say that it is checking for service, then a message will appear that you must call your carrier to enable service.
5. Close Mobile Hotspot and FoxFi, as you will no longer be able to use FoxFi after the service check has been completed through Mobile Hotspot.
6. Reopen FoxFi
MEGADONE!!!
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has anyone tried 1-click tether app ... i used it and it seems to work... btw im not rooted
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3. Enable connecting device: You will need to enter the MAC address and name of your connecting computer.
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Sorry for asking, but I'm not seeing where to put in the MAC ID? How are you getting to this field?
graphingabacus said:
This is a method to make FoxFi fully functional, and to verify that you are not being charged by your carrier. Steps will need to be adjusted based on your carrier and their native tether bloatware, and may depend on your phone. This is based on a 'rizon Slll.
Enable FoxFi:
1. Open FoxFi Key app.
2. Enter Mobile Hotspot from the window shade, as it should show up there automatically.
3. Set up WPA2 encryption.
3. Enable connecting device: You will need to enter the MAC address and name of your connecting computer. You can name it whatever you want; in OS X, the MAC address can be found in WiFi > Network Preferences > Advanced > Hardware.
4. Connect to FoxFi on your computer.
DONE!
Verify that your carrier is not charging you:
1. Enter Mobile Hotspot.
2. Toggle it off.
3. Toggle it on.
4. If you are not being charged, your phone will say that it is checking for service, then a message will appear that you must call your carrier to enable service.
5. Close Mobile Hotspot and FoxFi, as you will no longer be able to use FoxFi after the service check has been completed through Mobile Hotspot.
6. Reopen FoxFi
MEGADONE!!!
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Did all that and it worked. (kind of, I think)
Then closed FoxFi again.
Reopened FoxFi and the VZ Mobile Hotspot still continues to pop up. When the toggle is "ON", i can connect with my laptop. When I toggle it "OFF" so VZ Hotspot closes, and only FoxFi is open, the connection quits.
When I just open FoxFi and I can get a connection, the VZ Hotspot does not mention anything about a subscription (it only does when you toggle it off/on). Does this mean I am not being charged for it?
Unlimited data accounts are unlimited data for ONE device. A laptop or tablet constitutes another device using the data so there still allowed to charge a tethering fee
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I think that's what I have right now, works well so far
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Not to be glib, but am I missing something here? I've been using FoxFi for over a year and a half and have never had any extra charges from VW. Install the app, set up a password, turn it on, good to go. No extra steps at all.
Foxfi did not work with my Gnex that was running android 4.1.1, but my S3 that I just picked up about a week ago is working fine. I am using it now to post this comment. In the description of the app it says will not work on "most" phone with Android 4.1. I am also on the unlimited plan and don't plan on giving it up lol.
I have activated a Huawei u8730 "Unite Q" on simple mobile for someone. It is on the unlimited 4g plan. The phone was originally a t-mobile phone. Oddly enough, we activated to two phones and the other one's hotspot works fine! I can't remember what phone it was though. Anyway, the phone has a sweet, fast 4g connection and can browse the web, download, stream etc. with no problem. HOWEVER, when I try to activate the hotspot, I get a message saying "cannot connect to mobile data network". I'm inclined to believe that this phone has some sort of limitation on the wifi hotspot functionality put in place by t-mobile. I've also tried Foxfi and it will cycle through "verifying internet connection...starting hotspot 1 2 3" then flash something about failed for like a 10th of a second and turn back off. Would anyone happen to know of a workaround for this?
Bump...anybody?
I use the AT&T s7 on cricket and I have a reoccurring issue with the mobile hotspot that I need help with. With no rhyme or reason the Hotspot will work one day and then the next day I get an error message "to enable mobile hotpot go to at&t.com to activate service". The next time it will work, does anybody have a suggestion on how to get this to work all the time. Thanks
They told me at cricket that the AT&T s7 on cricket will not tether. I can't even sign up for it on my line.
You may want to try FoxFi, its on the app store. I know it works with the Verizon S7 to enable the tethering while bypassing the carrier checks.
Foxfi does not work with Sprint.
Anyone on a Verizon grandfathered unlimited plan try the hotspot? I know Foxfi doesn't work on Android 7.0 for wireless tether, however I tried the mobile hotspot and it checks and says my hotspot is enabled and starts. Works great, checked my Verizon features and I am not subscribed to any tethering plans. Not sure what to do with it, anyone else try this? Will we get billed for this?
I'm wondering the same... I want to make sure before in go all in on this phone that this key feature is enabled while I remain on old unlimited plan.
Thanks!
I'm still grandfather unlimited and it tells me I need to subscribe to the hot spot service.
PDAnet?
Likewise, has anyone tried PDAnet with it for tethering?
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Tells me to subscribe
just got an s8+ today and found out that the native hotspot will work if you pop sim tray out, it will then take you to lock screen, pull down tray and turn on hotspot. You may get an error saying no sim installed but just keep pushing hotspot button until it turns on. It is working on mine now but now I am trying to figure out how I can disable ota updates. Anyone have any help for me? Thanks