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Stupid enough not to put the phone back to stockbefore returning it to ATT

Hi Guys, this is my story
Recently I have saw a black mark on my screen that would not go away. In addition there were some spots that were also visible.
I have went to a ATT service spot and ask for a replacement, the guy looked at my phone and agreed to give me a refurbished phone.
I am worried about two things:
1. the guy said that if the spots were caused by water I will pay 500$. Truthfully, the phone was anywhere near water but it does look like water damage....
2. The phone that ATT took was rooted.
Do you think that I have a big bill coming on?
* really worried...
Regards
B

borisb said:
Hi Guys, this is my story
Recently I have saw a black mark on my screen that would not go away. In addition there were some spots that were also visible.
I have went to a ATT service spot and ask for a replacement, the guy looked at my phone and agreed to give me a refurbished phone.
I am worried about two things:
1. the guy said that if the spots were caused by water I will pay 500$. Truthfully, the phone was anywhere near water but it does look like water damage....
2. The phone that ATT took was rooted.
Do you think that I have a big bill coming on?
* really worried...
Regards
B
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From my discussions with the att warranty department (ie. last three days), anything that they can constitute as user damaged, they will charge you 399 dollars for the refurbished phone.
So technically since the phone was rooted, unless the att tech reflashed it before sending it out, you have voided your warranty.

Even if its a HW issue?
What are the chances that they will reflash it? probably zero.....
Has anyone had something like this?

borisb said:
Even if its a HW issue?
What are the chances that they will reflash it? probably zero.....
Has anyone had something like this?
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Even if its a hardware issue, while the phone is rooted the warranty is voided.
I am not sure never worked at att, but I am guessing they just put it in a box and ship it.

The most they do is wipe user data.
In all honesty, I would argue with them if they do charge. Reason: " the guy at the stand did not check it first. " all blame should fall on him because he furnished you with another phone without checking it first.
ATT rep.. The phone you provided us is no longer under warranty due to it being voided.
You.. The guy at the store gave me a new phone and said everything was ok. Why am I now being charged. Did he break it? .
ATT Rep.. I am sorry for the confusion.........
Something like that, just play really dumb like you have no idea what there talking about, and chances are the will void the charge due to employee negligence.
Now if you signed something agreeing to take the phone with the chance of being charged anyways, you may be **** out of luck. But its worth a shot. I know when it was cingular, our returns department never even checked the phones, the most we checked for was the water mark stickers. And even that was not always checked. When we sent them off to the manufacturer for exchanges we shipped them out in bulk and by doing so they realy couldnt tell what came from who.
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xKrisx said:
Now if you signed something agreeing to take the phone with the chance of being charged anyways, you may be **** out of luck. But its worth a shot. I know when it was cingular, our returns department never even checked the phones, the most we checked for was the water mark stickers. And even that was not always checked. When we sent them off to the manufacturer for exchanges we shipped them out in bulk and by doing so they realy couldnt tell what came from who.
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The last part of that has changed since they use imei's now.

I think you will be fine. You giving the Warranty Department too much credit. You will be fine.

i guess it matters on how hard the warranty guyz wana work... hopefully they will get the phone on a friday lol good luck

A year or so ago i was buying a mytouch 3g in a tmobile store and the guy selling me the phone told me about how i could root the phone and wireless tether for free!
I even asked him if it would void the warrenty and he said it wouldnt!

I hope it will be OK.
Do they sent it to ATT o directly to HTC?

mudknot2005 said:
Even if its a hardware issue, while the phone is rooted the warranty is voided.
I am not sure never worked at att, but I am guessing they just put it in a box and ship it.
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Right. He taped it up before me (for one of my earlier captivates) and when I asked if they would reset or anything like that, he said it'll go directly to Samsung. Its a good thing I always wipe data before I return any phone.
So my guess is, for phones returned within 30 days that wud come as refurb, they will be within AT&T. But for any hardware issues they won't even bother to look into it and simply return the phone to manufacturer.

I sent a rooted Samsung captivate (told them it had random shut down issue which was a known issue it didn't have that prob gps was crappy) in that was rooted and nothing happened. A lot of times its not cost effective for a manufacturer to check all that stuff. Remember they have to pay a tech by the hour to do all that. Its usually more cost effective to just refurb and either resell or use as a replacement. I'm betting you'll be ok. I wouldn't worry about it until you hear from them. And like the other guy said play dumb.

Carlrobling said:
I sent a rooted Samsung captivate (told them it had random shut down issue which was a known issue it didn't have that prob gps was crappy) in that was rooted and nothing happened. A lot of times its not cost effective for a manufacturer to check all that stuff. Remember they have to pay a tech by the hour to do all that. Its usually more cost effective to just refurb and either resell or use as a replacement. I'm betting you'll be ok. I wouldn't worry about it until you hear from them. And like the other guy said play dumb.
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AT&T doesn't bother until the manufacturer comes back. I remember reading on Captivate forums where some people got billed full amount after a couple months cos Samsung came back to AT&T charging them.

diablo009 said:
AT&T doesn't bother until the manufacturer comes back. I remember reading on Captivate forums where some people got billed full amount after a couple months cos Samsung came back to AT&T charging them.
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I'm sure it has happened. Not everyone gets lucky. I will say this ATT techs aren't very bright. When i first got my inspire (used from craigslist) i put my sim in and it said it had a sim lock. I called tech support they told me they didn't know what it was. Then tried to tell me it was cause someone tried to root it and failed. I later figured out on my own that it was a bad sim and after having it replaced it worked perfectly. So i wouldn't count on ATT but Htc its a roll of the dice. Keep us posted let us know how things turn out.

Some of you are giving far too much credit to the warranty department. I can't speak for AT&T as I don't work for them...But I do, do tech support for Philips Electronics... In all honesty, 1 out of every 15 people here is technologically advanced. Most people work here because its a job.
The way our warranties work is 2 ways.
1. We either say screw it and send another product
or
2. The product comes in for testing, we test it...If it works, it goes back, if not, we replace it. 99.99% of the time, the people testing the product are not smart enough to look for alterations to the software.
Again, this is how we work here, and I can't speak for AT&T.

tribalartgod said:
Some of you are giving far too much credit to the warranty department. I can't speak for AT&T as I don't work for them...But I do, do tech support for Philips Electronics... In all honesty, 1 out of every 15 people here is technologically advanced. Most people work here because its a job.
The way our warranties work is 2 ways.
1. We either say screw it and send another product
or
2. The product comes in for testing, we test it...If it works, it goes back, if not, we replace it. 99.99% of the time, the people testing the product are not smart enough to look for alterations to the software.
Again, this is how we work here, and I can't speak for AT&T.
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Not only not smart enough but like you said its just a job and they don't even bother to care. Like i said earlier there techs aren't very bright and tried to tell me someone tried to root the used inspire that i had. He even went around and asked other techs that's the only problem it could be he said. After some trial and error I figured it out called tech support back told the lady this time what i figured out she agreed and made note on my account that i could get a free sim. Glad i don't bother believing everything i hear lol and would rather do my own research first.
P.S. Its like that everywhere you go. People are all the same from job to job you see the same things everywhere lol.

BAleR said:
A year or so ago i was buying a mytouch 3g in a tmobile store and the guy selling me the phone told me about how i could root the phone and wireless tether for free!
I even asked him if it would void the warrenty and he said it wouldnt!
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And if the rep said that they will give you a free phone every 6months you would believe that too?

jaw2012 said:
And if the rep said that they will give you a free phone every 6months you would believe that too?
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Never said I believed it, just quoting him

When htc gets the phone they will wipe it and put it back to factory because there is no need of anything on the phone and anything done on the phone software issues could be the problem, so always best from there stand point to have it back to factory. That is exact reason any time u call about anything with pc or phone they want u to restore to factory.

[Q] Should I keep this new infuse or keep it?

I bought a advertised "brand new" infuse from amazon seller. It came with intact(which is a little not that "new intact", seller said that it was due to sim card removal) but the fatal issue is the battery is inside the phone when it came, should I keep it, or return it?
I can't use ##786# to check RTN and see if it's actually new one. I tried someone else's infuse from ATT store and RTN doesn't work as well.Is there any way to test it?
Thanks

reactorcooler said:
I bought a advertised "brand new" infuse from amazon seller. It came with intact(which is a little not that "new intact", seller said that it was due to sim card removal) but the fatal issue is the battery is inside the phone when it came, should I keep it, or return it?
I can't use ##786# to check RTN and see if it's actually new one. I tried someone else's infuse from ATT store and RTN doesn't work as well.Is there any way to test it?
Thanks
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Should you keep it or keep it... hmm I say keep it. Loooool. What you can do is call ATT give them the IMEI and ask when it was activated.
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reactorcooler said:
I bought a advertised "brand new" infuse from amazon seller. It came with intact(which is a little not that "new intact", seller said that it was due to sim card removal) but the fatal issue is the battery is inside the phone when it came, should I keep it, or return it?
I can't use ##786# to check RTN and see if it's actually new one. I tried someone else's infuse from ATT store and RTN doesn't work as well.Is there any way to test it?
Thanks
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well if it works, the screen is NEW.... the sim card reads your sim.... whats the problem? probably not new... but if it works like new one whats the big difference...? thats MY thought... you dont have to share my "philosophy" but as long as it works ans looks like new, the battery thing could be a minor slip form the seller cusiousity to turn it on and forgot to take the battery out.
IF it has dents or scratches... the battery runs out SUPER fast or you have troubles with calls etc then problably you should return it.
But as long as it works like NEW and looks like NEW probably the seller put the battery in by curiuosity, I did it with the first Infuse I sold i just put the battery on so it "looked cool"... yeah.... dont judge me lol never did that again lol.

My Warranty Replacment Experience

Well, to start off the new year right, my original G2x stopped sending/receiving SMS messages under any circumstances, whether it was on wifi, 4G, Edge, or GPRS. I unrooted it and got a new SIM card, still have the same issue (according to the person at the T-Mobile store, I had a "2G SIM card in a 4G phone.") They suggest a whole new phone, and I agree.
One day later with overnight shipping, I get my new G2x, and the first thing I notice is the LG branding in place of the T-Mobile branding. Ignoring that, I turn on the phone only to see dead pixels everywhere, I don't understand how they could have even sent this one out. I call up customer care and they make me go through the whole troubleshooting procedure, and they decided to send me another one. They also told me if this next one had problems, they'd send me a replacement phone of a different model.
So I'm getting a new G2x sent to me tomorrow. I hope this next one works just fine, or I'll have to get a new phone. Also, what replacement phones do they usually offer for the G2x?

I have been through this process, I'm on my third G2x and CC told me if I ha e anymore problems with my G2x then they will give me a different phone.e... When I asked what them replacement model would be the CC Rep told me they could only exchange it for the Sidekick 4G and I told them I would just deal with the G2x and any problems it my have
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Milton515 said:
I have been through this process, I'm on my third G2x and CC told me if I ha e anymore problems with my G2x then they will give me a different phone.e... When I asked what them replacement model would be the CC Rep told me they could only exchange it for the Sidekick 4G and I told them I would just deal with the G2x and any problems it my have
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yea they offer me a sidekick 4g as well, straight up told them no thanks lol, and also i got a replacement that only says "LG" in the front and not tmobile

Guess they got tired of people trading in just for the Sensation 4g.... disappointing.

C0dy said:
Well, to start off the new year right, my original G2x stopped sending/receiving SMS messages under any circumstances, whether it was on wifi, 4G, Edge, or GPRS. I unrooted it and got a new SIM card, still have the same issue (according to the person at the T-Mobile store, I had a "2G SIM card in a 4G phone.") They suggest a whole new phone, and I agree.
One day later with overnight shipping, I get my new G2x, and the first thing I notice is the LG branding in place of the T-Mobile branding. Ignoring that, I turn on the phone only to see dead pixels everywhere, I don't understand how they could have even sent this one out. I call up customer care and they make me go through the whole troubleshooting procedure, and they decided to send me another one. They also told me if this next one had problems, they'd send me a replacement phone of a different model.
So I'm getting a new G2x sent to me tomorrow. I hope this next one works just fine, or I'll have to get a new phone. Also, what replacement phones do they usually offer for the G2x?
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All of my warranty exchanges have been great! My most recent one had the LG Logo as well. I made a thread about it last month. No problems except a bit of screen bleed.
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Thought I'd follow up on my original post. Got my new G2x in the mail, and it's much better. The screen is flawless (no bleeding!), and it was obviously brand new, it still had the original plastic covering on the screen and buttons. Still has the LG branding, but I think I'll live. Overall, a good experience from T-Mobile.
Sent from my MIUI G2x

i hate tmobile first off i got my refurb g2x for 45 bucks and a gaurentee and lifetime warrenty that my sreen wouldnt break crack or fail. long story short my screen broke and the hassle began. tmobile said the insurance would replace it. insurance said it would be 140 to replace it. i love the phone hate the company second time i got robbed

slappnuttzz29 said:
i hate tmobile first off i got my refurb g2x for 45 bucks and a gaurentee and lifetime warrenty that my sreen wouldnt break crack or fail. long story short my screen broke and the hassle began. tmobile said the insurance would replace it. insurance said it would be 140 to replace it. i love the phone hate the company second time i got robbed
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What kind of insurance did you have on the phone? I had premium handset protection.
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Are we even calling the same Tmobile CC?
FatalityBoyZahy said:
All of my warranty exchanges have been great! My most recent one had the LG Logo as well. I made a thread about it last month. No problems except a bit of screen bleed.
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C0dy said:
Thought I'd follow up on my original post. Got my new G2x in the mail, and it's much better. The screen is flawless (no bleeding!), and it was obviously brand new, it still had the original plastic covering on the screen and buttons. Still has the LG branding, but I think I'll live. Overall, a good experience from T-Mobile.
Sent from my MIUI G2x
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I warrantied my phone twice... long story short, I ended up returning both of the replacement phones. They ending up putting me on a tracking list and told me to call back within a few weeks. I called back today and they told me to call LG and let them deal with it. Are you calling another Tmobile customer service number that I don't know about?

Plz can anyone explain me in detail how to claim warranty.
I stay in india.I Brought it from USA (Dont have international warranty )Do i have to send back my phone to usa(my sis stays there) !
-->Is it possible to claim warranty without producing the old phone (If this is possible than i dont need to send my phone back)?
I went through the warranty claim page of LG ,but im unable to figure it out what to do plz help me!
Reason for warranty claim :My Mobile stopped at 4% during update ! (I did all possible ways to get it back to normal stage , i was half successful as baseband was unknown )

Nomnomnomoron said:
I warrantied my phone twice... long story short, I ended up returning both of the replacement phones. They ending up putting me on a tracking list and told me to call back within a few weeks. I called back today and they told me to call LG and let them deal with it. Are you calling another Tmobile customer service number that I don't know about?
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I'm calling 611.
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Got my replacement about a week ago and still having the same issues , phone picks up back round noise during a call more than my voice,so the other person cant understand what im saying . after about a 1hr with the rep, master reset(again) no market for 2 days and no memory card(he thinks this is the problem).... will see tomorrow when i call some one if its the same issue.

Do you guys restore the stock rom before you call?

N3xt2N0N3 said:
Do you guys restore the stock rom before you call?
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yes i do
really easy by doing this method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryGIv8KQVIE
and dont forget to delete EVERYTHING from the internal memory

g2uzer said:
yes i do
really easy by doing this method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryGIv8KQVIE
and dont forget to delete EVERYTHING from the internal memory
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Ok cool, I will give it a try

g2uzer said:
yes i do
really easy by doing this method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryGIv8KQVIE
and dont forget to delete EVERYTHING from the internal memory
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the stock rom is 2.2.2 is that ok?

tdizzle404 said:
the stock rom is 2.2.2 is that ok?
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Yep, I sent mine back as 2.2 and they didn't say anything.

well im unrooted but after flashing back to stock with one click I cant boot into stock recovery. will that be a problem? lol

tdizzle404 said:
well im unrooted but after flashing back to stock with one click I cant boot into stock recovery. will that be a problem? lol
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On the g2x if you hold the power and down button, it should just do a master reset, it's not like HTC where it takes you to recovery (correct me if I'm wrong) but just to make sure your unrooted try to download and use a app that requires root
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Thanks! so it doesn't boot into a stock recovery mode to master reset,that's weird I could have swore it had a blue boot screen maybe im thinking of my galaxy.
BTW a little ot but im wondering if you know about mobile security from asurion is it free?

Replacement

Hi, so I have been using my MT since September. It is my first MT and happy with it. Currently running TG CM7 on it. However the phone started to freeze once in a while for like half a minute. Soft keys are not responding unless I turn off and back on the screen. These also happen when I was still using the stock rom. Also there are dust under the screen, and I heard that the only thing I can do is ask for a replacement.
I would like to ask y'all how to have a replacement of the MT? Should I call VM or is there any online help on their website (Because my English isn't that good)? Would they still let me have a replacement since I have it for about 10 months? Also I knew I should flash back to stock rom, but do I have to remove CWM as well? If so how do I do that?
Thank you for any kind of help.

gary93 said:
Hi, so I have been using my MT since September. It is my first MT and happy with it. Currently running TG CM7 on it. However the phone started to freeze once in a while for like half a minute. Soft keys are not responding unless I turn off and back on the screen. These also happen when I was still using the stock rom. Also there are dust under the screen, and I heard that the only thing I can do is ask for a replacement.
I would like to ask y'all how to have a replacement of the MT? Should I call VM or is there any online help on their website (Because my English isn't that good)? Would they still let me have a replacement since I have it for about 10 months? Also I knew I should flash back to stock rom, but do I have to remove CWM as well? If so how do I do that?
Thank you for any kind of help.
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The soft key non responsiveness is a hardware problem on all triumphs. I've heard alot of ppl say that happens to them. Mine does it too but not too often, and I also have a lil bit of dust under my screen but I can only see it when its extremely bright outside.
If those two things really bug you, I wouldn't get another phone because they might be present with then new (refurbished) phone you get from them.
If you want a replacement, I have found that the best way to get in touch with them is through the VM social care dept. Don't call and talk to tech support. It can get really annoying. Instead send an email to [email protected], leave a comment on Virgin Mobile USA's Facebook page, or tweet @VMUCARE on Twitter.
When I had to have a few things fixed on my account, these guys helped me out right away!
As far as getting a replacement, I'm pretty sure you can up to a year from the purchase date. And I've heard of ppl sending their phones back to them with CM7 still installed, but I would re-install the stock rom just to be safe.
Good luck with everything and hope I could help!

CornfedChris said:
The soft key non responsiveness is a hardware problem on all triumphs. I've heard alot of ppl say that happens to them. Mine does it too but not too often, and I also have a lil bit of dust under my screen but I can only see it when its extremely bright outside.
If those two things really bug you, I wouldn't get another phone because they might be present with then new (refurbished) phone you get from them.
If you want a replacement, I have found that the best way to get in touch with them is through the VM social care dept. Don't call and talk to tech support. It can get really annoying. Instead send an email to [email protected], leave a comment on Virgin Mobile USA's Facebook page, or tweet @VMUCARE on Twitter.
When I had to have a few things fixed on my account, these guys helped me out right away!
As far as getting a replacement, I'm pretty sure you can up to a year from the purchase date. And I've heard of ppl sending their phones back to them with CM7 still installed, but I would re-install the stock rom just to be safe.
Good luck with everything and hope I could help!
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Thank you for the tips! May I also ask, when I bought my MT in BestBuy, I had also bought the 1 or 2 years warranty thing. Does that do anything with replacing the phone? Or could I just take it to BestBuy to ask for replacement?
Thanks again =)

gary93 said:
Thank you for the tips! May I also ask, when I bought my MT in BestBuy, I had also bought the 1 or 2 years warranty thing. Does that do anything with replacing the phone? Or could I just take it to BestBuy to ask for replacement?
Thanks again =)
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I believe since you bought the warranty through Best Buy you can just go back there and have them replace the phone for you. Just mention the hardware problems to them and I don't see why they wouldn't. From what I have heard, a lot of Best Buy associates are familiar with the Triumph's problems and that it has been returned a lot and automatically know why your there haha. Weather they will give you a brand new one, or have VM send you a refurb... I'm not exactly sure.

Guys, I need help with OPO

Hello, my mom really wanted a new phone fast because right now she uses an old samsung and it's has some problems but for her phone is in need because of work... So in eBay we found an awesome deal! OnePlus One auction, and we won that phone only for 37 pounds. Phone has to come tomorrow, but I was scrolling through eBay and I wanted to read some feedbacks on seller again so I went to OPO information and then I readed that phone doesn't pick up any network. So, I know that mother will kill me because network will not work. So I wanted to ask, is there any way fix that fast without any parts changing? Just change something in settings and it will work?

Are you serious dude?
Ever heard of "If it looks too good to be true, then it probably is"?
If it was that easy to fix then it would have been sold for far more than £37. Basically, no chance of fixing it in settings I'd guess, but you could try flashing a factory ROM image and praying lots.

Not sure until you actually get the phone and see what's wrong with it.

Soo, phone came and any sims doesn't work on him. So we took it to the repair, they told that they will see if they can fix it. So we waited until next day, they told that they will try to fix it until today. We came to the repair and they told that they changed the sim tray and problem still exist and they said to us to wait until tomorrow if phone gets any better they will call us. But my mom wanted to know, can be that problem can't be fixed at all?

Does the phone show IEMI in Settings/About Phone/Status/IEMI Information? "do not post your IEMI" just let know if does.
For the price you've paid inc the repair you could have got a Nexus 5 in good condition on Ebay.

stylez said:
Does the phone show IEMI in Settings/About Phone/Status/IEMI Information? "do not post your IEMI" just let know if does.
For the price you've paid inc the repair you could have got a Nexus 5 in good condition on Ebay.
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I think so that it shows IMEI, I can't check right now because phone is teardowned and I saw that antenna was corrupted so we gonna changed it on Thursday and what about nexus 5, we could get it but only 16gb but my moms needs more memory so .
And more about IMEI, last time when I checked IMEI was in place but I don't know what about last time when I restored the phone after flashing ROMs .

If you have TWRP installed try backing up the EFS partition. That's where the IMEI is stored.

There's no more problems after antenna change, thanks everyone who tried to help!