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I posted this on another forum, and the conclusion was that flash support is why I've found that nearly all web pages load faster on my wife's iPhone 4 than my Thunderbolt.
I'm not really satisfied with that answer... does anybody else notice that there is a delay before web pages actually load? The delay is usually a second or more, and occurs in all the browser's I've tried so far. On my wife's iPhone 4, there is absolutely no delay on loading most sites. I've put the phones side to side, and gone to a variety of websites doing my best to press the load button at the same time. iPhone always loads the page initially quicker than the Thunderbolt.
After the second or so delay, web pages load pretty quick, but that delay really gives the feeling of a sluggish browsing experience.
Any way to remedy this? I've tried turning off flash support, but had no luck.
UPDATE: Made a quick video comparison. It's obviously NOT a well-controlled experiment . I'm sure there is a couple millisecond difference between finger pushes on each phone, but either way the iPhone loads the page quicker. I just recorded whitehouse.gov, since neither phone has been on that site AFAIK since we got them. But I assure you that the same difference happens on most other websites. I'm in a well-covered 4g area, and speed tests the past couple of weeks ranged from 10 - 20 mbps down and 6-15 mbps up, so I don't think that's the problem. I'm using the Miren browser in this video, but I've also tried Oper HD, dolphin lite, and the stock browsers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbYrlNNO8nc

I guess I fail to see the problem..
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I guess I fail to see the problem..
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It's not a 'problem' per se. I love the phone. I'm just wondering a) if anybody else has noticed this, and b) if anybody has any alternative explanations for why browsing, at least for me, doesn't seem blazing fast... particularly since I'm on the 4G LTE network, and the only other phone I've had experience with (iPhone) seems to have a faster browsing experience despite being limited to 3G.

The stock browser is sluggish. I have noticed the same thing with the browser hanging but only on sense roms. I switched to miren browser and all is well.
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I have noticed this. I'm rooted but on the stock ROM and I see significant slowness in the browser. Sometimes the browser will not load a page at all and the bar will stay at around 75% complete and never go any further. If I close the browser and try again it will sometimes completely load but most times I just have to wait and try it later. This is not what I was experiencing when I first got it.

None of my browsers fail to begin loading the page immediately after I hit "go" :/
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Coming from the Archos and ViewSonic tablets, plus Galaxy S phones, I got in the habit of only using Dolphin Browser.
My TBolt is fine in Dolphin Browser, and exceeds the Archos A70 that I use every day. I try to maintain low expectations, that way I can be positively surprised.

The stock browser works very smoothly for me on cm7, and I'm not overclocked. You could always try dolphin or opera.

xScope is my favorite for speed and features.
I only use the stock browser for Hulu now.

tbns said:
It's not a 'problem' per se. I love the phone. I'm just wondering a) if anybody else has noticed this, and b) if anybody has any alternative explanations for why browsing, at least for me, doesn't seem blazing fast... particularly since I'm on the 4G LTE network, and the only other phone I've had experience with (iPhone) seems to have a faster browsing experience despite being limited to 3G.
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If my GFs iphone loaded pages more quickly than my Tbolt on 4G, I would definitely consider that a problem. What are your typical 4G download speeds? I get between 14-20 Mbps on speakeasy.net (stock browser)
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Going to try and take a video of the comparison if I can tonight so you guys can judge.
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UPDATE: Made a quick video comparison. It's obviously NOT a well-controlled experiment . I'm sure there is a couple millisecond difference between finger pushes on each phone, but either way the iPhone loads the page quicker. I just recorded whitehouse.gov, since neither phone has been on that site AFAIK since we got them. But I assure you that the same difference happens on most other websites. I'm in a well-covered 4g area, and speed tests the past couple of weeks ranged from 10 - 20 mbps down and 6-15 mbps up, so I don't think that's the problem. I'm using the Miren browser in this video, but I've also tried Oper HD, dolphin lite, and the stock browsers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbYrlNNO8nc

Best ROM out there

People please share your expreince. I like to which ROM is best becasue I am kind of tired of being stuck with gtg465x which gives me lots of issue with Internet speed.

Try miui. I like it a lot. Pretty smooth with a nice selection of themes to choose from.
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Mine is the best..... for me.....

No way Irish, mine is the best for me..

^^ nice. ;-)

No, mine is best!!!!!
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Anyone try out GSInfuse? If so, how is the internet speeds and battery life compared to Infused?

Serendipity if you don't mind the occasional battery drain bug.
DlevROMInfuse for overall good stability and no battery drain bug.
With either ROM you can either have 1. good data speeds and no MMS or 2. Bad data speeds and MMS. Personally i don't care about MMS enough to lower my data speeds so i deleted the MMS APN and just left the "phone" for good data speeds.

Dlev is the best out. Awesome data killer battery and almost instant GPS lock.
hey ya'll watch this!!

Been running Dlev for a few days and I'm torn. I really like S7 but the out of the box setup for Dlev and the speed of that Rom are amazing. Battery has been excellent, not hard to theme and it has many customization options removing the need to do a lot of custom visual work (unless you dont like green as much as i do.....). It's just a visually appealing fast Rom. I'll have to give it a few more days at least to verify if it's as stable as S7 but so far I have had no issues, and the included email app version is the best "stock" email I've used. It also comes with a slick Twiz 4 clone which is smooth as silk and is pretty easily themed in itself. Not a fanboy yet, but might be if the battery keeps lasting as long as it has over the last few days. 15-18 hours of moderate use (dl's, XDA, youtube streaming Tosh, and some modern combat 2) and still usually have 20-30% left at the end of the day.
Edit: I do like to undervolt quite a bit and I havent OCd this yet so that may also be helping the battery but honestly I havent felt the need to OC this yet because it's so smooth. I dont normally OC until at least 3 days of issue free running on a new Rom anyway though.....
Using it with Entropys daily 9/26
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-175, -175, -125, -75, -75
1200, 800, 400, 200,100.
Noop i/o scheduler
Conservative gov
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No ROM has been perfect for me yet, but MIUI has been the best. If any ROM has working bluetooth to connect to a PS3 controller (Stupid Samsung framework bluetooth stack...) and has video out capability I'll be using that one forever.
Right now it's either one or the other with CM7/MIUI having proper bluetooth but broken HDMI out, or working HDMI out on some of the other ROMs but bad bluetooth >_>

Clyzm said:
No ROM has been perfect for me yet, but MIUI has been the best. If any ROM has working bluetooth to connect to a PS3 controller (Stupid Samsung framework bluetooth stack...) and has video out capability I'll be using that one forever.
Right now it's either one or the other with CM7/MIUI having proper bluetooth but broken HDMI out, or working HDMI out on some of the other ROMs but bad bluetooth >_>
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May I ask why you want bluetooth to connect your phone to the PS3 controller? I also have a PS3 and it seems like I'm missing out on something cool.

Cm7 for the speed of it. I had to set the APN to get data working

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May I ask why you want bluetooth to connect your phone to the PS3 controller? I also have a PS3 and it seems like I'm missing out on something cool.
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The reason I want both HDMI out and PS3 bluetooth is so that I can use my phone as a game console. I already have an MHL cable sitting in my drawer waiting for a ROM that does both, and then any time I want to play say... SNES, GBA, PS1 etc. I don't have to start up my computer and load an emulator that's already on my phone.

How about someone running each rom available and posting various comparisons and contrasts in a good format for side by side comparison?
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I'm pretty sure DlevROM's Bluetooth works. Haven't had anyone say it was broke. I will test it when I get home.
I'm not a developer but I try to play one on XDA. DlevROM Yo!

I went from infuse to s7 to miui and back to infuse.
I found infuse with infusion kernel with 1.6 oc and healthy uv was the snappiest although battery life isn't as good as s7., most likely due to the oc. Nonetheless I prefer one of the gb roms over miui because i found they're far more stable with better hardware functionality as they're tailored to the phone. Miui has to cover so many bases I found it was spread thin and did nothing great, beyond the theming capability which was excellent.
Edit: id like to add my bluetooth works fine and hooking my phone to my car is smoother as I kept getting mount errors with miui
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I've tried most Roms out there and I have to say I like dlev rom the most in terms of speed and theming. However I always end up back on infused. It is the most stable one for me. But when I get bored I will jump back onto dlev in a heartbeat until it does something screwy that scares me away (inevitable). Good ole infused hasn't done me wrong yet. Not one complaint about it. So what if HDMI doesn't work. I wouldn't be using it anyways. Bluetooth is always perfect and data speeds are more than fine here in Orlando.
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I'm pretty sure DlevROM's Bluetooth works. Haven't had anyone say it was broke. I will test it when I get home.
I'm not a developer but I try to play one on XDA. DlevROM Yo!
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DlevROM doesn't have working HDMI out if I'm not mistaken.

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DlevROM doesn't have working HDMI out if I'm not mistaken.
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I was talking about bluetooth. I did not mention hdmi at all.
I'm not a developer but I try to play one on XDA. DlevROM Yo!

ICS Video Playback not as good as GB?

Hi, I've noticed with ICS Roms the video playback is very jerky and low quality compared to GB which could play the same video files smoothly. I am talking about a 720p movie but I get the same thing with the recorded videos from the phone's camera.
Any ideas as to why this is and how it can be improved?
I'm currently running Insert Coin 5.1.1, Sensation XE, latest firmware 3.32.
PS I've also noticed the fruit ninja seems kind of pixelated on ICS so i'm guessing it's a general graphics issue with the whole OS.

even i am on the same rom........and i noticed that while playing video the screen gets dim itself even when on full brightness and auto brightness off

Is the force gpu turned on in dev settings? I personally think its equal if not better.. (also talking 720p mkv's)
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I just tried forcing GPU, didn't help much if at all.
I remember watching the same movie when I first got my phone and looking at the quality in awe, now that I'm on ICS I'm disappointed.
Hopefully someone will know how to fix.

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I just tried forcing GPU, didn't help much if at all.
I remember watching the same movie when I first got my phone and looking at the quality in awe, now that I'm on ICS I'm disappointed.
Hopefully someone will know how to fix.
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Been using VI ICS for a while now and watched a few mins of Cowboys and Aliens and Transformers3 without issues.
For me, I think playback is a bit smoother than GB. Could be a placebo though lol.

I was just browsing around and saw that theres an app called System Tuner that tells you if the second core is running...found out that the second core on my phone was disabled!
I enabled it and success! my video played so smoothly it was beautiful once again
So it's probably a kernel issue rather than ICS issue. (can't remember whether i chose OC Kernel or Stock)

[Q]-Video performance

Hello all. I'm a recent convert to the transformer from an HP touchpad. I'm using the stock transformer setup that has been rooted via the one click method. I'm using Kernel-ICS-V21.11-OC1700-fb_607 as my kernel and it's OCed to 1400. I also tried this on 1200 and the stock 1000. I have an app from time warner that lets me watch my stations on the tablet. On my TP, it runs well. It's like looking at HD TV. On the transformer, (skype and groove IP were loaded at the time I admit), the video is choppy. It's like . . a comparison between an onboard video card and a dedicated. I'm also a tad shocked to see at the same OCing, my TP has outscored the transformer on AnTuTu. Shouldn't the transformer be performing better? I don't mind the similar benchmarks but I'm really shocked at the video performance. Is there a ROM I should try that might be better? I'd really like to see the video of the TWC app at least being equal to how it is on my TP.
Would something like the android revo rom with its forced GPU rendering be better? I do admit the TP has chainfire loaded but my transformer does not. Could that be it?

Certainly give a custom rom a try, does the choppy playback happen on apps such as Youtube etc? I'm on Revolver and i haven't had any video playback issues but I cant say i remember playback issues on stock ether

You might also try to flash the new nvidia codecs. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24534878 guevor has a link to it in that thread.
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I'll make a back up and try the nvidia codecs and see how the performance is on something like netflix, YT or crackle.

Well with the new codec, "the set IO to busy under interactive" tweak and increasing the OC up to 1400, my AnTuTu went up about 900 or so. Prior to all the tweaks, I checked YT and Netflix. They ran great. Even after the tweaks, the TWC app still has some stutter especially during motion. I noticed swiping animations seem to be really fast now. It really does seem to be performing well except for this app. I even killed a live wallpaper and some tasks just to see if it was causing issues and it didn't help.

Installed Android Revo as my ROM but sadly, I can't test right now. TWC released a new app so we have to wait for somebody to remove the root checks again.

The android revo ROM (or possibly the updated version from TWC) is now performing as it should. As a matter of fact, it looks beautiful. If anybody lost their ability to use the app due to the new update, check out this thread here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29339067#post29339067
Basically, superuser needs to be renamed.

Netflix app insanely laggy

Hey all. Is anyone else having major problems with Netflix? When trying to navigate through the library it is painfully slow, I am talking 6 second delay and then a choppy partial scroll when trying to scroll. I have uninstalled updates and cleared cache to no avail. Haven't rooted yet so I cant do a complete uninstall.

elislurry said:
Hey all. Is anyone else having major problems with Netflix? When trying to navigate through the library it is painfully slow, I am talking 6 second delay and then a choppy partial scroll when trying to scroll. I have uninstalled updates and cleared cache to no avail. Haven't rooted yet so I cant do a complete uninstall.
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I have this issue.. the netflix app is extremely laggy and unresponsive to me. Can't scroll because it thinks I am clicking where I start the scroll. Pages take forever to load. Very frustrating.
Otherwise happy with my infinity!

Yeah the netflix app is unusable in its current state. If you force 2D hardware rendering it does perform quite a bit better, but still damn clunky and way to slow to use IMO.

I am also having the same issue. Purchased my tablet from Amazon and this weekend I was playing around with it. Netflix very slow.

I've been going to the website and adding videos to the instant queue so I don't have to scroll on the Netflix app. The actual streaming works quite well though.
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Clegs said:
I've been going to the website and adding videos to the instant queue so I don't have to scroll on the Netflix app. The actual streaming works quite well though.
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Yeah It does look good once you get it started. Its pretty crazy that they put the app on here stock in its current state though.

At least you can open your Netflix, mine just crashes when i try to open it. (As does the website... which is pretty odd)
Can anyone post the latest apk - I cant seem to download it from play.
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Don't worry, they updated their description on the play store with a download link.

netflix on tf700
So my wife's Nexus 7 tablet does not have the slow Netflix experience.
However my TF700 and MK802 both have the slow Netflix.
Considering the Nexus 7 and the TF700 are both Asus Tegra3 devices, can only guess it might be a problem with ICS, solved with the butter in Jelly bean.
Given that the MK802 is an ICS device with the same slowness, it does at least support the theory.
Did try netflix on my old SPH-D700 (Samsung Epic 4G) running on Gingerbread, and the netflix app seems entirely different, and has no scrolling lag. So That narrows it down to the tablet version of netflix on ICS.
Does anybody have another device that it works well?
Maybe it's optimized for some specific GPU?

More likely it's a resolution issue. 1920x1080 takes a lot more rendering power than 1280x720.

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Considering the Nexus 7 and the TF700 are both Asus Tegra3 devices, can only guess it might be a problem with ICS, solved with the butter in Jelly bean.
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Setting the option to force GPU rendering fixes the issue entirely. I had horrible UI performance in Netflix until I turned on the option.
Go to settings\developer options\force GPU rendering. Terminate and then relaunch Netflix. Problem solved.

ashuras said:
Setting the option to force GPU rendering fixes the issue entirely. I had horrible UI performance in Netflix until I turned on the option.
Go to settings\developer options\force GPU rendering. Terminate and then relaunch Netflix. Problem solved.
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it does a lot better, but still not optimal. mine sometimes registers a tap when it supposed to be a drag and launches a movie or description when not wanted. i wonder it it's the tablet or netflix's fault on that.

I just tried Netflix again yesterday. I'm on Zeus 3. Downloaded Netflix from market. No lag for me anymore.
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I'm on Zeus' rom as well. Netflix doesn't perform any better now than it did when I was on stock. Still have to force 2d rendering to even be able to navigate at all, and even then it's still pretty slow. I want an interface that is smooth like the app drawer. It can't be that friggin hard.
The interface also sometimes interprets a swipe for a tap and loads up an episode I was trying to scroll past.

I'm not sure where the difference may be in our setups. I'm not even using forced 2d. Everything scrolls smoothly with no aberrant taps being detected. It works the way it should.
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DocRawk said:
I'm not sure where the difference may be in our setups. I'm not even using forced 2d. Everything scrolls smoothly with no aberrant taps being detected. It works the way it should.
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is it 1.8.1 build 573?
edit: actually can you give more info than that? are you using his default build.prop? have you changed minfree at all? disabled autodimmer? any other changes?

ashuras said:
Setting the option to force GPU rendering fixes the issue entirely. I had horrible UI performance in Netflix until I turned on the option.
Go to settings\developer options\force GPU rendering. Terminate and then relaunch Netflix. Problem solved.
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Thanks. Although Netflix browsing still isn't perfect, the above significantly improved it. It actually scrolls when the just a tinge of lag, but nothing to spoil the experience. Before, it was like it wanted to wait till all the images were loaded.
I also found this made just moving around in the OS much snappier.

Forced GPU renderign helps, but this is still slow, compared to Vimeo for example.
I also find that the audio is frequently out of synch with video when I view Netflix HDMI out to a HD TV.
I often have to wait for Netflix to respond to touch commands, I am very unhappy with the app.
I also have the problem of subtitles not being o/p to the HD TV, but I saw a suggested fix for that elsewhere.
I wonder if I should uncheck the Netflix developer fixes when I am not using Netflix. Any suggestions?

parasense said:
So my wife's Nexus 7 tablet does not have the slow Netflix experience.
However my TF700 and MK802 both have the slow Netflix.
Considering the Nexus 7 and the TF700 are both Asus Tegra3 devices, can only guess it might be a problem with ICS, solved with the butter in Jelly bean.
Given that the MK802 is an ICS device with the same slowness, it does at least support the theory.
Did try netflix on my old SPH-D700 (Samsung Epic 4G) running on Gingerbread, and the netflix app seems entirely different, and has no scrolling lag. So That narrows it down to the tablet version of netflix on ICS.
Does anybody have another device that it works well?
Maybe it's optimized for some specific GPU?
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I have a tf700 with JB and experiencing same problems so it's not an issue with the android version.

ashuras said:
Setting the option to force GPU rendering fixes the issue entirely. I had horrible UI performance in Netflix until I turned on the option.
Go to settings\developer options\force GPU rendering. Terminate and then relaunch Netflix. Problem solved.
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This helped tremendously!