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Firewalls?!!!

Hi peeps,
Honeymoon over with my new phone, realising some of the apps I use to take for granted on Android HD2, can't be used on Sensation.
Most important for me Droidwall.
Anyone know which firewalls, work and can run on a non rooted handset?
Side query, what's best way of removing ads? Never realised there was ads in apps. As it was already fixed in the custom roms. I presume u need a rooted phone, not the end of the world. handset is a joy to use.
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MaxReality said:
Hi peeps,
Honeymoon over with my new phone, realising some of the apps I use to take for granted on Android HD2, can't be used on Sensation.
Most important for me Droidwall.
Anyone know which firewalls, work and can run on a non rooted handset?
Side query, what's best way of removing ads? Never realised there was ads in apps. As it was already fixed in the custom roms. I presume u need a rooted phone, not the end of the world. handset is a joy to use.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
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i all ready have a flashable add-on but it wont work till we get custom recovery and to replace the file your self you still need root becuase its in the system folder

Why do you use Droidwall if I may ask?
I have always seen it referred to as a placebo if anything.

Now people are seeing why I'm not buying the Sensation till it's cracked and rooted.
Android converts via the HD2 have all been using a rooted form of Android and never knew what life was like in the "locked down" world. I'm an Android convert via the HD2 myself, and knew complaints of this sort would be coming.
DroidWall is a great means to keep apps from eating data without knowing. Also a good means to keep Android from phoning home if that is of any concern to a user.

ashasaur said:
Why do you use Droidwall if I may ask?
I have always seen it referred to as a placebo if anything.
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Mdeejays rom ate all my data allowance in standby on my HD2. Droidwall stopped this happening, blocking everything except the apps you want to use data.
Although changing to Boyppc rom, the data usage wasnt half as much. Hmm?
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MaxReality said:
Hi peeps,
Honeymoon over with my new phone, realising some of the apps I use to take for granted on Android HD2, can't be used on Sensation.
Most important for me Droidwall.
Anyone know which firewalls, work and can run on a non rooted handset?
Side query, what's best way of removing ads? Never realised there was ads in apps. As it was already fixed in the custom roms. I presume u need a rooted phone, not the end of the world. handset is a joy to use.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
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APNDroid with the widget on your home screen stops 3G data connection.
Adfree for removing ads but its for rooted only.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
Now people are seeing why I'm not buying the Sensation till it's cracked and rooted.
Android converts via the HD2 have all been using a rooted form of Android and never knew what life was like in the "locked down" world. I'm an Android convert via the HD2 myself, and knew complaints of this sort would be coming.
DroidWall is a great means to keep apps from eating data without knowing. Also a good means to keep Android from phoning home if that is of any concern to a user.
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I agree. But it was upgrade time and having a 1080p camcorder enticed me to buy. Once you get over it being locked down, for now, it really is a joy to use. Every little niggle the HD2 had is gone. But yeah, rom wise, Boyppc rom makes HD2 a perfectly capable handset.
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MaxReality said:
I agree. But it was upgrade time and having a 1080p camcorder enticed me to buy. Once you get over it being locked down, for now, it really is a joy to use. Every little niggle the HD2 had is gone. But yeah, rom wise, Boyppc rom makes HD2 a perfectly capable handset.
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Nope, I won't be getting over it. I won't be buying the Sensation till it's unlocked.
My HD2 with the latest NexusHD2-Gingerbread has zero issues, none.
So no way I'm taking a step backward to lockdown, never.
I use several apps that require root. And I'm also not buying something I can't keep custom ROMs on.
Enjoy yours, but I'll pass if it's not unlocked.
These devices now cost way too much to compromise.

HTC are reviewing the locked bootloader policy

Just thought I would dive in and drop a link for anyone that is yet to comment..
And yes, it does belong in the dev section
http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084
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LeeDroid said:
Just thought I would dive in and drop a link for anyone that is yet to comment..
And yes, it does belong in the dev section
http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084
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SO what does this imply

If they lock them down.. its the end of custom roms and kernels on HTC devices
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the facebook post is so generic, and definitely unconvincing

LeeDroid said:
If they lock them down.. its the end of custom roms and kernels on HTC devices
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But isn't that what expert dev's like your self do....find ways to unlock things Isn't everything hackable eventually.....!!!

At least they didn't say [email protected]%k you to us like MOTO did
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If the boot loader gets locked its not impossible to flash custom roms. I'm sure the DEVs here can find a work around. I came from a Sony X10 and the boot loader is locked on that device. The DEV's in the X10 forum were able to get a working CWM to flash different rom's, themes, etc. It would be challenging, but very doable..

S.Reno9 said:
But isn't that what expert dev's like your self do....find ways to unlock things Isn't everything hackable eventually.....!!!
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Well the public key encryption used for signing can be theoretically broken but it takes centuries of brute force. More likely, someone will find a way to bypass the signature checking in the hardware somehow. You only have to flip one bit to make a "if x ..." turn into a "if not x ...", you just have to find the right place and a way to flip it.

It definitely puts a downer on devs willing to work with the phone...

Definitely something they should leave alone. Although HTC clearly knows how to make great mobile devices (in contrast to Samsung, for instance; Sense is light years better than that RFS Touchwiz crap) it's not smart to try to shackle the Android dev community. They will loose market share if they lock the bootloaders.
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HTC already locks the bootloaders on all their devices but this is referring to HTC reviewing if they are going to start unlocking them again or not

Ah, kinda what I thought till I read this post. So, I'll say that it would be better for them to unlock bootloaders.
cordell507 said:
HTC already locks the bootloaders on all their devices but this is referring to HTC reviewing if they are going to start unlocking them again or not
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When I saw this on android central it seemed to imply to opposite. In response to outcries over the locked bootloaders on the EVO 3D they were considering unlocked them.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-were-reviewing-our-bootloader-policy
HTC's statement:
"Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information soon. Thank you for your interest, support and willingness to share your feedback."

I figure if from now on if all phones are locked down...I'll just stick with what I have so I can keep modding them.
So far the Inspire has been a great phone and my Streak is definately in great shape.
Soon as DJ Steve ports over Honeycomb for the Streak 5...it'll be as good as any out there on the market. Maybe not as fast, but will do the job.

that's what i was thinkin i might just get off the train at the inspire and be done with it

Lol at the third comment. "What are boot loaders!" Lol
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There must be pressure from the 3rd party software contributors to ensure their product is forced on and STAYS on the phone.. I can see no reason else for the locked bootloader.. HTC's are extremely difficult to perm-brick, and with RUU's available they are easily fixable.. If they where open about it, put some damned documentation with it and a failsafe return method, they wouldnt have to worry about warranty issues, and even if it did it MUST be a more expensive proposition to create or license a method of locking the bootloader that wont be defeated in 10 minutes.. not to mention the hit they would take on revenue even if it is only around 2-5%...
I guess its all about the advertising dollars and who pays who..
sickening really..
Hail the AOSP builds...

Cell providers don't want me/you deleting their apps or enabling features on your/my device without paying...tethering for example. It's a numbers game and to them its just business.
They care less about battery life, they want you to buy aftermarket batts from them. they want you/me to pay for every kb/mb/gb we use.
That's the bottom line.
Aside from all that...they don't want it getting out just how crappy their product is. Unless your Motorola.

???
Not sure what this post is suppose to prove. The statement by HTC only states they are looking into the situation concerning the bootloader policy, but doesn't specify what their intentions are. A generic statement at best. For all we know, this could be just another Fakebook post. Until I hear or see an official statement, I'm taking this with a grain of salt.
BTW, I've seen no posts on my Facebook by HTC about this...just sayin...

if they start locking down the bootloaders i WILL go to samsung, as much as i love htc

About To Buy Inspire From Fleebay: Are All Rooteable?

I'm about to buy, almost positive, a Inspire 4G on ebay.
Only question is, are all of them rooteable, or are some models that are not?

I've never come across anyone with an unrootable Inspire/Desire HD.

WOW. That was a quick reply.
OK, so i shouldn't care about versions of the phone.
Are all the same then, or is some version more desirable than others?
I still remember my Magic, that there where different versions, like the touch, like the canadians, etc, and some had some advantates.

kwanbis said:
WOW. That was a quick reply.
OK, so i shouldn't care about versions of the phone.
Are all the same then, or is some version more desirable than others?
I still remember my Magic, that there where different versions, like the touch, like the canadians, etc, and some had some advantates.
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I've had 2 Inspires about a month or so apart and they were 100% identical. Root is easy as can be so long as you read and follow the guides properly.

I have 2 as well, purchased 3 months apart. No issue here, easily rootable as long as you can follow instructions.
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Great guys. Thanks.

I've rooted 4 Inspire's with no difficulty, using the simple one click and the hack kit.
This was back in February /March, since then I've noticed that there have been some refinements to the process, so rooting is no problem if you do your homework and follow the guides.
Good luck!
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?????
If a phone model is already rootable , it always will be.
AN inspire only has one version anyways, other than the OS version....

Well, if they fix the way a root has been applied, no.

I ordered one off of ebay and will be sim swapping between this and an iPhone 4 unless I root it and use it for my Tmobile account.
Will Super One Click be all I need to root this or will I need to use it and Hack Kit? I used SOC or what ever when I rooted my Samsung Galaxy S and it was a piece of cake.
Also is there any simple way to Unlock this outside of purchasing an Unlock Code?

I used bubby's simple root twice in the last 24 hours. It's absolutely all you need.
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Since the Hack Kit had been updated, it is by far the easiest.

kwanbis said:
Well, if they fix the way a root has been applied, no.
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They kind of did, that's why the exploits have to push a (signed) Desire rom to the phone to gain temp root in order to permanently turn off the signing requirement. So unless they change the design to where the baseband can't be downgraded (ala iphone) this exploit can't be closed.... and the redesign wouldn't effect already produced phones anyway.
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Htc has done it

http://htcdev.com/ this says it all
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It'd be interesting to see if or how this is useful for our developers.
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"The Bootloader Unlock web tool is coming soon. Check back often for official updates."
Um, yeah, they did...something... :-| :-/
Hitting F5 until something materializes.

I would rather have an unofficial bootloader unlock than one that htc can say voids my warranty...

I hope the devs figure out another way to unlock future phones besides that method or I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. That will void your warranty, and so far I've had 4 defective HTC phones out of 4 so I wouldn't take the chance and give up my warranty.

nrfitchett4 said:
I would rather have an unofficial bootloader unlock than one that htc can say voids my warranty...
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my thoughts exactly, which is what im sure will come of this though, sacrifice 1 or 2 to figure it out for the rest!

Evo 3D has perma-temp root. They're starting to figure it out.
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BoulderGeek said:
"The Bootloader Unlock web tool is coming soon. Check back often for official updates."
Um, yeah, they did...something... :-| :-/
Hitting F5 until something materializes.
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They released the OpenSense SDK today...

They also released the source code for the kernels on all HTC phones. Don't know if that was done before or not but it seems like that should be useful.

eraursls1984 said:
I hope the devs figure out another way to unlock future phones besides that method or I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. That will void your warranty, and so far I've had 4 defective HTC phones out of 4 so I wouldn't take the chance and give up my warranty.
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I'm on my 3rd... haven't had a problem with either of the 3.
Sounds like user error to me.

EmmVeePee said:
I'm on my 3rd... haven't had a problem with either of the 3.
Sounds like user error to me.
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My problems must have been user error, the power button was sticking and it was recessed into the phone, another one had a messed up audio jack, the next had the same issue and this one has the audio jack issue as well just not as bad and this new one also has random reboots even on the new OTA GB radio, the last three only had reboots on froyo radios.

Zalatorisaurus said:
Evo 3D has perma-temp root. They're starting to figure it out.
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The Evo3D has s-off via AlphaRev and Unrevoked's Revolutionary tool....
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Milimbar said:
They also released the source code for the kernels on all HTC phones. Don't know if that was done before or not but it seems like that should be useful.
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They always release the source to the kernel, just not always right away. It was posted before on http://developer.htc.com

They'll unlock the bootloader to the evo 3d and sensation but not the tbolt. Their unlocking tool will require you to provide them with your device information to void your warranty. Only good I see is developers might be able to use the tool to unlock other devices like the tbolt and future devices without having to provide htc with any of your phones information.
Sent from my Nook Color running CM7 nightly 74.

mark my words no verizon device will show up on the dev site for unlocking

queva1 said:
mark my words no verizon device will show up on the dev site for unlocking
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Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.

yareally said:
Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.
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On top of that from what I have been reading it is somewhat limiting when compared to s-off. No hboot, radio, or splash1 flashing. Last I heard kernels had to be fastbooted on. There is probably more I don't know about. Voids your warranty and you can't even switch around to find what radio works best for you. Unlocked my a$$!!
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yareally said:
Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.
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How come when you go to htcdev.com no verizon phones are listed for unlocking bootloader including the thunderbolt? I wouldn't use the site anyways but trust me when I say no verizon phone will appear on that site, carriers own manufacturers and verizon hates unlocked/rooted/modified phones on their network!
Also thanks for the troll comment in flattered!
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queva1 said:
mark my words no verizon device will show up on the dev site for unlocking
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I've been saying that since day one when HTC announced these "plans". I think Verizon has enough "pull" with HTC to make sure none of 'their' phones will be supported.

yareally said:
Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.
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Glad to see you can read.... From HTC's website for this, they clearly state
You asked for it, we delivered. Use this tool to install custom firmware on selected HTC Android devices.
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I bolded and italicized the important parts since you missed them the first time.
Further, from their FAQ on this subject:
Will all HTC devices be unlocked?
HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, certain models may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions.
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Unlocking bootloader deletes certain apps

FYI this has happened in the past on other HTC devices, but if you officially unlock via htcdev.com, you will likely lose certain apps like Calculator and Flashlight. I bought an AT&T version yesterday and unlocked via htcdev last night, and sure enough, the calculator app is gone from mine.
This may interfere with the ability of the device to receive OTA updates.
Personally, I did not yet install a custom recovery, or did I root. Literally all I did was unlock the bootloader. Frustrating to see that taking such a simple step--and doing nothing else--might prevent me from receiving OTA updates.
Any ideas? Could somebody post the stock calculator APK from the One Mini so I can download it? Thanks.

If you're rooting your phone, then I doubt you are the type who waits for OTA updates
But yeah, it sucks to know that apps disappear. I have the same at&t version, but didn't see a flashlight app at all. Had to get one from the play store. Where was yours hidden?
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PuffDaddy_d said:
If you're rooting your phone, then I doubt you are the type who waits for OTA updates
But yeah, it sucks to know that apps disappear. I have the same at&t version, but didn't see a flashlight app at all. Had to get one from the play store. Where was yours hidden?
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Oh I just assumed it was there because HTC devices typically have them. I actually unlocked the bootloader before I did anything else at all so I'm actually also just assuming that it originally had a calculator, too. I'm basing my assumption on the fact that it is confirmed that the full sized one did delete calculator and flashlight from the device when unlocking using htcdev.
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