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I originaly followed the Hack Kit to Root my Inspire but recently came upon another Inspire, does the One Click Root/Radio S-Off accomplish the same thing as the hack kit ?
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Except for the black cwm screen but there is a fix for it if you go two or three pages back I have a thread posted
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The hack kit IMO is easy enough it's worth doing it that way over the "one click" method.
The CWM black screen is due to something not going right with the Super One Click...even with a fix for it wouldn't you sleep better knowing it was done right from the start?
I used Simple One Click and never had the cwm black screen. Not everybody has that issue.
what blank screen issue? you're scaring me
I hope this doesn't become another versus thread, we've already been down this road. They're both great but both require paying attention and common sense. Read, research and be merry.
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Ummm, the One Click fixes the black screen too - click Fixes and it will enable full S-OFF by flashing the engineering bootloader.
I personally used the One-Click method. I also got the black screen for CWM.
I have read the tutorials for both. BOTH methods are very solid. And BOTH methods work.
What it boils down to is this: Can YOU follow instructions? If you can, you will be fine, using either method. the One-click specifically states that some users WILL experience a black screen issue. AND it tells you how to fix it, which is built right into the program.
In conclusion: Pick one. Read the instructions completely. Then download EVERYTHING you will need. Then test your ADB is working properly. Then read the tutorial again. Then start.
I found the one-click method to be pretty easy and did not get the black screen. Tribalartgod is right, though: be sure to read over all the directions for whichever method you choose, and get everything you need downloaded in advance. A user did a youtube video for the one-click which I also found helpful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0sQFoS_m_8
Hack kit is easy
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Well, I think this answers my question, I guess I will just do what I did last time and use the hack kit.
I was not trying to start a debate over the two, was just curiouse if One Click was faster ? easier ? or more fail proof ?. I have been developing my own RoM for my phone and havn't paid attention to all the changes to it. But now since I have another inspire, I noticed all these changes to how the Hack Kit and One Click work.
Oh well, gonna root my Second Phone today and go back to my kitchen.
Thanks for the info.
what's that blank screen issue you guys mention?
Chad_Petree said:
what's that blank screen issue you guys mention?
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Some users would get a black screen with cwm/Rom manager.
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xKrisx said:
I originaly followed the Hack Kit to Root my Inspire but recently came upon another Inspire, does the One Click Root/Radio S-Off accomplish the same thing as the hack kit ?
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Do u have a link for the one root click.
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xKrisx said:
I was not trying to start a debate over the two, was just curiouse if One Click was faster ? easier ? or more fail proof ?. I have been developing my own RoM for my phone and havn't paid attention to all the changes to it. But now since I have another inspire, I noticed all these changes to how the Hack Kit and One Click work.
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One Click is faster and easier as long as you can follow instructions. Example, if you forget to put it back on Charge Only mode, you have to start the whole process over again. Also when you get to rage, the terminal app doesn't always restart itself so you have to exit the app after it forks the childs and then continue from there.
I personally think that it was faster using the One Click but I'm also adept at following instructions - it took me about 25-30 minutes total to get totally rooted, radio S-OFF and ENG S-OFF. Its certainly a LOT faster to make the goldcard with the One Click.
i pretty much used both..i used the 'one click'..but i got the black screen..so i had to follow the other set of instructions to fix..which was part of the instructions for the 'hack kit'..after that i did eng s-off..very simple tool..
Why dont the one click root programs work for this phone? I'm going to use the hack kit, but I thought id ask the redundant question.
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Diesel984 said:
Why dont the one click root programs work for this phone? I'm going to use the hack kit, but I thought id ask the redundant question.
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This question belongs in the general section
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I would also like to know this. I just got an Inspire yesterday, moving over from a Dell Streak, so i'm doing the research on getting Rooted so i can throw some ROM's on this thing.
With the Streak i never had to deal with eng & radio s-off stuff and this whole Gold Card thing is a little odd too. I'm supposing its because of the different MFG's.
Thanks in advance to anyone offering their wisdom to this thread.
and the research continues...
Bubbys gui version of the hack kit worked fine for me.
Tx Redneck said:
Bubbys gui version of the hack kit worked fine for me.
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can u share a link for that? i HATE using the terminal
Mainly because you have to downgrade the rom and radio. That is the simple answer.
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Bubbys gui version of the hack kit worked fine for me.
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I get my inspire in tomorrow and a link would be great also!
Here is the link to the gui Bubby GUI
More then likely you will end up with a cwm black screen, if/when you do go here.
mudknot2005 said:
Here is the link to the gui Bubby GUI
More then likely you will end up with a cwm black screen, if/when you do go here.
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does the rc2 has a gui? because 90% of the rc1 was based on just typing commands, thats what i saw in the youtube video at least
There is no absolute, fool-proof, One Click, rooting method for the Inspire.
Do some research, take notes, watch the videos and do whichever you feel most comfortable with.
People have had success with both versions (Simple One Click and Hack Kit)
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does the rc2 has a gui? because 90% of the rc1 was based on just typing commands, thats what i saw in the youtube video at least
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As said above there is no fool proof way. If I recall correctly the GUI uses almost the same method as the hack kit except it does most of the commands for you. They both use the same exploit they both downgrade the rom and radio to root and s-off. The major problem that people run into is that the recovery screen is black. There are work arounds for it, which are in the link I posted above.
so there is a chance that the one click root MIGHT work for this? I've read up on the hack kit, while it sounds complex, it appears very simple...
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Diesel984 said:
so there is a chance that the one click root MIGHT work for this? I've read up on the hack kit, while it sounds complex, it appears very simple...
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No chance, Nope, nada, zilch
Use the hack kit or the gui, like you said, not that difficult.
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I used the One Click method, in conjunction with the very fine video that accompanies it. Watch the video a couple of times, and then follow it step by step when starting the process, and you'll be fine. Although I did run into the CW black screen problem, it was an easy fix.
This thread is totally in the wrong place. Not to flame but come on. This is all over general and can be found inside of 5 min. I just read a great article about not being a fan of one click rooting. The editor had this opinion because there are all kinds of people out their rooting their phones that have no business doing so and when, and chances are good that it will happen, they brick their phones running back to their carrier for them to fix their mistakes because they don't want to do any research on their own. This in turn is leading carriers to locking down their phones with locked bootloaders and trying to figure out ways to identify root users to suspend their service. I totally agree with this article and while I encourage noobs to learn and root their phones, it requires a lot of reading and some people are just not up for it.
OK that's the end of my rant.
Please do the research and become a contributing member of xda so we can all benefit from each other and keep striving for a better android experience.
Moved to proper forum.
laxwillsch said:
This thread is totally in the wrong place. Not to flame but come on. This is all over general and can be found inside of 5 min. I just read a great article about not being a fan of one click rooting. The editor had this opinion because there are all kinds of people out their rooting their phones that have no business doing so and when, and chances are good that it will happen, they brick their phones running back to their carrier for them to fix their mistakes because they don't want to do any research on their own. This in turn is leading carriers to locking down their phones with locked bootloaders and trying to figure out ways to identify root users to suspend their service. I totally agree with this article and while I encourage noobs to learn and root their phones, it requires a lot of reading and some people are just not up for it.
OK that's the end of my rant.
Please do the research and become a contributing member of xda so we can all benefit from each other and keep striving for a better android experience.
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Agreed...I couldn't have said it any better.
It's not hard to root, the hardest part is following a bunch of half ass guides because people that write them expect you to know everything.
I ended up having to make my own rooting guide back when the N1 came out because I had to compile 4-5 different guides just to get all the information needed.
I can't speak for the rooting guide for the Inspire since my phone doesn't come in until tomorrow.. but we shall see
Question from a newbert
hello all,
recent convert from the atrix to inspire...had a question based on the S-off vs ENG S-off...what's the difference?
if I do this in the proper steps then will I be fully rooted, S-off, ENG s-off?
1) Bubby - HTC Inspire 4G Simple Root and S-OFF
2) jkolojo - One click ENG S-OFF
3) then flash radio? which one is better?
Radio_12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M - (HTC Ace Gingerbread S Generic 2.16.0.0)
12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M - (HTC Ace Gingerbread S Generic 2.25.0.0)
Is clockworkmod included in the Bubby root?
After that is fully installed, can I flash any ROM I want?
Thanks, really appreciated!
Also what's the difference between all the different rooting methods?
I know SuperOneClick for Atrix made a mess. Which one do you guys recommend for a beginner?
Ace Kit
attn1 root
bubby root
my friend got his ATT HTC Inspire few days ago.
i check the radio ID
its 12.28b.60.140eU-26.03.02.26M
i did a speedtest and it runs good.
anyway we can extract this radio and install on our rooted phone?
What do u mean by "good" speeds? Any number?
pollux1151 said:
my friend got his ATT HTC Inspire few days ago.
i check the radio ID
its 12.28b.60.140eU-26.03.02.26M
i did a speedtest and it runs good.
anyway we can extract this radio and install on our rooted phone?
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That radio appears in the desire hd radio thread, dated Oct 2010, i believe, unless in my quick reading I misread the number.
Did your friend buy the phone nib from an ATT store?
diablo009 said:
What do u mean by "good" speeds? Any number?
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about 2m, depends on area
Scott_S said:
That radio appears in the desire hd radio thread, dated Oct 2010, i believe, unless in my quick reading I misread the number.
Did your friend buy the phone nib from an ATT store?
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yes, he got it NIB
I have the same radio, picked up this phone about 2 weeks ago.
Rooted with hack kit and running cm7.
Tried other roms but on a few I noticed poor call quality, cm7 works pretty good for me.
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noobfail said:
I have the same radio, picked up this phone about 2 weeks ago.
Rooted with hack kit and running cm7.
Tried other roms but on a few I noticed poor call quality, cm7 works pretty good for me.
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Did you have this radio prior to rooting? This the radio that is used during the downgrade process.
Its interesting how a nib phone would come with that radio
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It is weird to be seeing such an old radio on NIB Inspires. As Scott_S said, that radio came out with the Desire HD back in October. I thought that Inspires were only shipping with 06.04.06 or 06.06.30...I wonder why people are starting to see that old 03.02.26 radio on new Inspires?
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Did you have this radio prior to rooting? This the radio that is used during the downgrade process.
Its interesting how a nib phone would come with that radio
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To be completely honest, I do not recall what it was before rooting, but I'm sure it was the same.
I haven't tried flashing radios due to my lack of research and not having a computer available when ever I would need it.
What are pro's and cons?
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noobfail said:
To be completely honest, I do not recall what it was before rooting, but I'm sure it was the same.
I haven't tried flashing radios due to my lack of research and not having a computer available when ever I would need it.
What are pro's and cons?
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Well their is no definitive answers on radios as it varies on so many things. What's good for one person may not be for another. Personally I have. Gotten better speeds with the Ota's radio maybe becauase its made for our phones but thats just speculation on my part. I've haven't seen many people stay on your radio soon after rooting. I have seen a few people complain about it, then when they moved up to stock radio or Ota's, their varies issues were gone
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noobfail said:
To be completely honest, I do not recall what it was before rooting, but I'm sure it was the same.
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Your sentence is a contradiction; if you don't recall what it was before rooting, how can you be sure it is the same now? Just messing with you but you are contradicting yourself a little bit there.
The rooting process MUST change the radio. All the current root exploits use a flaw in that radio to do their dirty work. That's the reason for the downgrade (and to a lesser extent, the kernel just because the exploits were compiled for its modules).
pollux1151 said:
yes, he got it NIB
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All right, let's expand on your answer... New in box from an ATT or other retail store selling new inspires, where your friend watched the CSR open the seal on the box, and put the SIM in?
Something doesn't seem right.
Nevertheless, it's not a "new" radio, so experimenting with it would be the same as any other radio "compatible" with this phone... YMMV.
There are *newer* radios out, so....
Scott_S said:
All right, let's expand on your answer... New in box from an ATT or other retail store selling new inspires, where your friend watched the CSR open the seal on the box, and put the SIM in?
Something doesn't seem right.
Nevertheless, it's not a "new" radio, so experimenting with it would be the same as any other radio "compatible" with this phone... YMMV.
There are *newer* radios out, so....
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i rooted this phone for him. I checked the software number and noted it down before hacking.
if its old radio, i dont know why ATT switch to this one.
anyway, its performance is better than ATT's old stock radio.
pollux1151 said:
i rooted this phone for him. I checked the software number and noted it down before hacking.
if its old radio, i dont know why ATT switch to this one.
anyway, its performance is better than ATT's old stock radio.
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That's fine, and just for the record I'm not being skeptical just for the fun of it, I'm just trying to figure out the circumstances.
Now, you may have rooted the phone for him, and you may have noted the baseband/firmware versions before doing so, but that doesn't really answer the most important part of the question....
Exactly how your friend came into possession of this phone.
Until you say with certitude that "yes, it was purchased brand new from a retail store and my friend was the first person to ever touch the phone and he never attempted any modifications to the phone himself," then I still have a hard time determining the rationale of putting a Oct 2010 radio on a brand new from the factory inspire.
I bought mine March 3rd. Brand new, ATT retail store. Watched dude crack the factory seal, and take 400 off-contract dollars from me.
My radio was the stock radio commonly referred to as the "shipping stock" radio.
Why would an older radio than the one on my (at the time) brand new phone be put on one more recently manufactured?
It just doesn't make sense.
Anyway, as long as you're getting a level of performance that's acceptable, then I guess that's all that counts.
F u Henry!
I forgot to tell you guys, that when I got my phone, I jade a HTC wifi update then rooted my phone.
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marsdta said:
Well their is no definitive answers on radios as it varies on so many things. What's good for one person may not be for another. Personally I have. Gotten better speeds with the Ota's radio maybe becauase its made for our phones but thats just speculation on my part. I've haven't seen many people stay on your radio soon after rooting. I have seen a few people complain about it, then when they moved up to stock radio or Ota's, their varies issues were gone
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Exactly! My girlfriend and I have the same phones (Inspire 4gs). We used to have the same ROM, Radio, RIL, APN, and build.prop. For some reasons, she always get ~4M/2M, I only get 3M/1.5M on the same day, same position in the house.
Just because it's in a shrink-wrapped box, doesn't mean it's NIB.
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Just because it's in a shrink-wrapped box, doesn't mean it's NIB.
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Lol. Exactly. Case in point... Fry's Electronics.
This is a prewarning for anyone still nieve enough to accept an ota before its been torn down and examined. The One X, brother device(EVO 4g LTE) recently received an ota that SIGNIFICANTLY improved security on the device. Changes included a new hboot(as seen in the new hox ruu leaked) along with other patches, any EVO that was not previously s OFF can no longer use the s OFF exploit, lazypanda. On top of that, EVO and hox were both able to flash radios and kernals with the unlocked bootloader. The EVO, s on with unlocked bootloader can NO LONGER flash radios or kernals. Recoveries only. I am posting this to make the community aware that this update WILL most likely implement the same security changes that were put on EVO LTE owners.
If you accept the ota, you will likely:
Lose ability to flash kernals, and radios
Lose ability to use a s OFF exploit if it becomes available on the current(non updated) hboot.
Do thank the person bringing the ruu leak to xda for developers to examine and warning us of the soon to come ota. If it weren't for him, it would just show on our devices and a good percentage would accept, clogging our forums with help me threads. Check out the ruu leak thread to thank.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29049875
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
...........My EVO Ways..........
(You can S-Off for all I care)
Needs a sticky!
Good job bro!
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I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
iElvis said:
I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
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It's those same "clowns" who find ways for you to flash ROMs. Please have a little more respect.
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18th.abn said:
If you accept the ota, you will likely:
Lose ability to flash kernals,
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I'm assuming you mean just through recovery. I'm sure you will still be able to flash the boot image(kernel) through fastboot. Just wanted to clarify this and not make everyone think you wouldn't be able to flash kernels at all.
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I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
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lemme guess.. those exchanges are why phones are getting more expensive too right?
Haha.. those phones just get reflashed and sold as "refurbished" so knock it off OK.. seriously it's just annoying misinformation.
Phones get bricked sometimes.. the giant corporations will be fine.
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SoberGuy said:
It's those same "clowns" who find ways for you to flash ROMs. Please have a little more respect.
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ChongoDroid said:
Haha.. those phones just get reflashed and sold as "refurbished" so knock it off OK.. seriously it's just annoying misinformation.
Phones get bricked sometimes.. the giant corporations will be fine.
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Not talking about devs, who contribute something to the overall environment (I would never refer to devs as "clowns"). I'm talking about the people who start fooling around with their phones without knowing what they're doing, brick them, then post things like "Will AT&T know what I did if I return this for a warranty replacement?"
And, whether the carriers can afford it (they can) isn't the point. It's that these folks motivate the carriers to make their phones ever more locked down in order to avoid having to deal with these bogus exchanges.
Wait, you got that wrong, reason we are getting more bricked phones is because the security on this device is NEW. Can't figure it out if you don't try, trying consists of trial and error. Well you know the sweetest of the story....
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For every guy that takes a risk and flashes something that might achieve s off, 10 people have returned their phone because the email doesn't work, or the screen is too yellow, or its too quiet.. or loud. Do you see what I'm sayin?
Normal people don't root.. they just complain. So HTC locking down the phone more isn't preventative measures for tech support or return rates... Its just HTC being sloppy. Next it'll be that source is being delayed because they don't want people to brick their phones lol
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Thanks, good looking out. Some people will heed your warnings, others wont. I'm afraid this would be a little harder to overcome than the 1.85 fiasco when everyone updated before there was a root exploit. If HTC is playing with the security like this then that is a little scary to me. Damn i wish i had a little birdy at HTC. Maybe samsung is the future for rooted devices. Maybe google will open Motorola up. HTC is goin backwards
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Thanks, good looking out. Some people will heed your warnings, others wont. I'm afraid this would be a little harder to overcome than the 1.85 fiasco when everyone updated before there was a root exploit. If HTC is playing with the security like this then that is a little scary to me. Damn i wish i had a little birdy at HTC. Maybe samsung is the future for rooted devices. Maybe google will open Motorola up. HTC is goin backwards
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Yeah, it's definitely a concern to me. I wish they would understand and just make it easy to do. The unlock site.could have an optional S-off to go with it. I would think it would be pretty easy for these guys to design a device to be very dev friendly, and also easy to recover if/when things go bad.
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xiambax said:
No problems guys. I got my S3 today so I haven't been testing the new RUU very much as I installed it sometime last night.
I'm torn on which phone I want to keep. Does someone really need two 700 Dollar phones?
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Yup I do. Please mail the one you won't use to me ^_^
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Post in the marketplace.
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As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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PurpleFries said:
As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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serious? ive seen xls go for 350 on the marketplace.
PurpleFries said:
As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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Lol yeah, brand new
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Jeez phones nowadays cost so dang much. Moor than my laptop or the new iPad lol
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No Root , No party , No Mods
Someone in working on ?
I've Droid Maxx , if you need something needs to work , let me know
wolfgart said:
No Root , No party , No Mods
Someone in working on ?
I've Droid Maxx , if you need something needs to work , let me know
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Agreed, I would LOVE to know if we will get root on the Ultra and Maxx before I buy one of them!
I really hope someone works on root, I would love to get this phone but I need wireless tethering!
Root will end up coming. I believe the verizon moto x will be the same root method.
Unlocked, thats the million dollar question.
I'd like to know if anyone is working on it as well...
I don't necessarily need to be able to do ROMs, but I'd like to get root to see if I can get the AOSP browser on this damn thing. I need the bookmark syncing with Chrome on my PC, but the Chrome app just blows. AOSP browser works perfectly.
I, too, assume it'll be a similar root process as the Moto X since they're almost completely identical. But the SW on the Moto X is even less modified than on our Droids, so that small difference might be part of a significant difference when it comes down to rooting. So far it looks as if you've got to unlock the bootloader of the Moto X via the moto dev site, then flash a rooted kernel. That won't translate to the Ultra because of the different kernel :/
I'm giving it the two weeks that the return policy is for root to arrive. If it isn't available by then I'll eat the $35 restock fee and get myself a 32GB S4 (and go through all the trouble again of transferring phones...). Tethering is far too important to be potentially stuck without it.
Picolini said:
So far it looks as if you've got to unlock the bootloader of the Moto X via the moto dev site, then flash a rooted kernel. That won't translate to the Ultra because of the different kernel :/
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Motorola doesn't offer a bootloader unlock for this phone, so we can't go that route yet. It will have to be a real exploit with temp root if /system modifications can't survive reboots.
radzer0 said:
Root will end up coming. I believe the verizon moto x will be the same root method.
Unlocked, thats the million dollar question.
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Took like 9 months to unlock the Razr HD, but you have the potential help of the Moto X to speed things along (All carriers). Although I don't foresee many developers jumping on the Moto X bandwagon based on the specs. I dunno, it could go either way. Good luck to you all, I'm ditching my Razr HD for a G2
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Took like 9 months to unlock the Razr HD, but you have the potential help of the Moto X to speed things along (All carriers). Although I don't foresee many developers jumping on the Moto X bandwagon based on the specs. I dunno, it could go either way. Good luck to you all, I'm ditching my Razr HD for a G2
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Right now you have very, very little chance of getting a root. And about a bootloader unlock. I would more than likely guess that was a one time deal. So if you bought this and are waiting for a root/bootloader unlock. You are going to be disappointed.
I'm sure root will find its way. The unlocked boot loader makes me nervous though. I'm curious if something like safestrap will make its way to these phones. I'm still hoping that the combined attention of the four devices and the popularity of the moto x will get these devices an unlocked boot loader.
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These devices just came out. Please give it a little time and people will get cracking on the dev side.
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jimmydafish said:
Right now you have very, very little chance of getting a root. And about a bootloader unlock. I would more than likely guess that was a one time deal. So if you bought this and are waiting for a root/bootloader unlock. You are going to be disappointed.
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A little off topic - think the One has a better chance? I know HTC isn't normally your wheelhouse, but with your connections and all...
Ignore the prompt to update for now, no matter how annoying it might be. Like someone else said, with so many devices sharing common architecture root is just a matter of time. Bootloaders are a different story.
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A little off topic - think the One has a better chance? I know HTC isn't normally your wheelhouse, but with your connections and all...
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it's hard to tell.
I have the s4 which I will dump soon, as I am about 99% sure unlock is not coming.
I am keeping my s3 though.
I also have the HTC One, I DO feel we will get unlock at the least, and hopefully S-OFF.
I usually give all my phones at least 6 months before moving on.
Thinking of going to buy the moto x just for kicks as I never own moto device and the X peeks my interest, I feel I could use it and toss it around and not have to worry about it and it can take it, compared to my HTC one that's like a watch (jewelery.)
Curious to play with the different software, HTC Sense is and always has been favorite, Touchwiz grew on me greatly, and want to check out this moto x. /I usually can't live without root, but I wouldn't be using the phone activated, just to have it.
i'm sure Root will be re shortly .
Hope in @djrbliss for root and bootloader exploit , he has hacked Razr HD bootloader here
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I hope it does come but this phone will just be my backup phone for when I'm giving my S4 a breather, I took care of my S4 before that software update thankfully.
darksizzle said:
I'm sure root will find its way. The unlocked boot loader makes me nervous though. I'm curious if something like safestrap will make its way to these phones. I'm still hoping that the combined attention of the four devices and the popularity of the moto x will get these devices an unlocked boot loader.
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Why are you so sure? There are a handful of people who have the ability to do root for this device, and afaik none of them "NONE" of them have expressed an interest to work on this.
@work said:
Ignore the prompt to update for now, no matter how annoying it might be. Like someone else said, with so many devices sharing common architecture root is just a matter of time. Bootloaders are a different story.
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there isnt any known exploits to patch so how would an update patch them?
wolfgart said:
i'm sure Root will be re shortly .
Hope in @djrbliss for root and bootloader exploit , he has hacked Razr HD bootloader here
Tweet him
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he said he was done with Moto after he unlocked the last generation razrs.
mbh87 said:
there isnt any known exploits to patch so how would an update patch them?
he said he was done with Moto after he unlocked the last generation razrs.
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There very well may be, but moto is not going to make that public in most cases. It's easier to patch in silence and not tip anyone off.
andybones said:
it's hard to tell.
I have the s4 which I will dump soon, as I am about 99% sure unlock is not coming.
I am keeping my s3 though.
I also have the HTC One, I DO feel we will get unlock at the least, and hopefully S-OFF.
I usually give all my phones at least 6 months before moving on.
Thinking of going to buy the moto x just for kicks as I never own moto device and the X peeks my interest, I feel I could use it and toss it around and not have to worry about it and it can take it, compared to my HTC one that's like a watch (jewelery.)
Curious to play with the different software, HTC Sense is and always has been favorite, Touchwiz grew on me greatly, and want to check out this moto x. /I usually can't live without root, but I wouldn't be using the phone activated, just to have it.
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Yeah the main thing keeping me holding onto this S4 is the fact it has MDK. Otherwise I generally am liking the One better now - though the S4 camera sure can take some great shots and tends to last a bit longer on the battery. The Maxx is pretty awesome... camera is mediocre, but better once you get used to its idiosyncrasies. It's basically pure Android, so if you love sense, you might be bored with it. But if there's any phone that hiccups less than the One, it's this one. Incredibly smooth and snappy experience. And obviously great battery life... Voice controls are pretty cool, too. Not perfect, but still pretty cool