So yesterday, completely oblivious to the fact that this forum existed, I went ahead and googled how to root my Charge.
What I came up with is what I believe to be a Kernel (what ever the crap that means) called Voodoo.
I (and please excuse my potentially improper use of terminology here) flashed the new Kernel to my Charge using Odin.
Great, I have superuser (what ever that is) and a rooted phone.
Here's what I want to:
1) Remove most if not all of stock apps/bloatware.
2) Increase speed and efficiency of the phone.
3) Increase or have the option to increase battery life.
4) Be able to do a wireless tether (hotspot?) or just regular tether.
5) Have gingerbread if it is worth getting in your opinion(s).
How do I get from where I am now, to where I want to be?
Here's what I've come up with based on what I have read on the forums here.
1) Install Gingerbread
2) Install Humble 2.0
3) ....
4) Profit?
Thanks for helping a noob, your reward will be only in your head
I have tried the lot of the Roms for the Droid Charge. And to me IMNUTS EE4 Debloated Stock ROM works the best and runs me all day from 4am to about 8pm without needing a charge. I happen to like the puzzle lock screen so thats why i chose this one. If you want AOSP (stock Froyo) then use one of the other roms and the P&J Kernel to save battery.
BTW. If you just don't like the TWLauncher, as I don't, you can use your own. I run the ADW EX Launcher using the y0rk's black ADW Theme. All inexpensive or free ways to make your Charge look better.
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I have tried the lot of the Roms for the Droid Charge. And to me IMNUTS EE4 Debloated Stock ROM works the best and runs me all day from 4am to about 8pm without needing a charge. I happen to like the puzzle lock screen so thats why i chose this one. If you want AOSP (stock Froyo) then use one of the other roms and the P&J Kernel to save battery.
BTW. If you just don't like the TWLauncher, as I don't, you can use your own. I run the ADW EX Launcher using the y0rk's black ADW Theme. All inexpensive or free ways to make your Charge look better.
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Sweet! Thanks for all the info.
Can I just install IMNUTS right over my voodoo install using Odin? Will it erase the voodoo kernel? (Sorry, noob's gotta ask noob questions)
Would you suggest going to gingerbread? I mean is there any benefit yet?
What is ADW EX Launcher? Something I can get off the market, something I have to use odin for, or something else entirely?
kagaos said:
Sweet! Thanks for all the info.
Can I just install IMNUTS right over my voodoo install using Odin? Will it erase the voodoo kernel? (Sorry, noob's gotta ask noob questions)
Would you suggest going to gingerbread? I mean is there any benefit yet?
What is ADW EX Launcher? Something I can get off the market, something I have to use odin for, or something else entirely?
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The EE4 debloated rom is just a rom - it is installed over an existing kernel (such as the voodoo kernel you installed) and won't overwrite its work.
I would not suggest going to the GB leak as of yet - there is no voodoo lagfix for it, the display quality is compromised, and the EG2 radio is subpar compared to our current EE4. Stick to the EE4 roms, for now.
As for the launcher, that's all personal taste. I personally use LauncherPro, and many like Go Launcher. Try them all out.
I'm new to the Charge scene as well, in fact my Charge is still waiting to be shipped. I do have some experience with Odin having used a Galaxy Vibrant before.
I'd like to get an answers on the following:
1. I intend to install the GummyCharge EE4 ROM located at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116086. Since this is a ROM flashed via CWR, do I Odin flash the Root Kernel from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092114 and after that flash GummyCharge ROM via CWR?
2. On some of the ROMs that are flashed via Odin, can I simply Odin flash those ROMs w/o my phone being rooted first?
JK, use a .tar to flash in ODIN. They are identified as ODIN flashes. I used AlteredBeast to gain root and get CWM. If you want a different one then AB which is an awesome rom, then use CWM to flash the .zip file that you download.
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JK, use a .tar to flash in ODIN. They are identified as ODIN flashes. I used AlteredBeast to gain root and get CWM. If you want a different one then AB which is an awesome rom, then use CWM to flash the .zip file that you download.
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Thanks dragon, so it looks like if the ROM i want isn't Odin, I just flash an Odin ROM to gain root and CWM, then I can flash whatever ROM I like.
Looks like the 2.3.4 leak just came out too, time to read up on details for it. Decisions decisions.
aznxk3vi17 said:
The EE4 debloated rom is just a rom - it is installed over an existing kernel (such as the voodoo kernel you installed) and won't overwrite its work.
I would not suggest going to the GB leak as of yet - there is no voodoo lagfix for it, the display quality is compromised, and the EG2 radio is subpar compared to our current EE4. Stick to the EE4 roms, for now.
As for the launcher, that's all personal taste. I personally use LauncherPro, and many like Go Launcher. Try them all out.
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Awesome, thank you for the informative post! You guys are incredibly helpful here
Now, back to the launcher thing, what exactly is it? What does it do, and how do I go about getting and/or installing it?
kagaos said:
Awesome, thank you for the informative post! You guys are incredibly helpful here
Now, back to the launcher thing, what exactly is it? What does it do, and how do I go about getting and/or installing it?
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Launcher is basically the phones overlay. How the screens look and react and how the phone looks as you scroll and setup different widgets and apps. Basically when you turn your phone on. and it boots up the way explorer is to windows, is how launcher is to android.
Your phones GuI interface to put it easily. What you see is the launcher and how it works with your phone.
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Launcher is basically the phones overlay. How the screens look and react and how the phone looks as you scroll and setup different widgets and apps. Basically when you turn your phone on. and it boots up the way explorer is to windows, is how launcher is to android.
Your phones GuI interface to put it easily. What you see is the launcher and how it works with your phone.
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Excellent! Windows analogies help a lot. Kind of hard for me to take all this rooting business in, after all I hadn't heard of it before last week.
So I plan on flashing the EE4 Debloated using Odin followed by installing a launcher as well (using Odin?).
If the above looks good to you, then on to the next phase...
CWM Recovery. What is it, why do I need it and how do I get/install it?
Is there a comprehensive guide to all this rooting business? Like something that explains all the terminology and gives analogous scenarios to explain what it can do and what I can do with it?
P.S. Just let me know when I'm asking too many questions...
launchers are apps you download from the market.
Ok, I too have some NOOB questions.. I feel like I used to know a good bit about rooting etc etc... This was when I had my D1 though... Once i jumped to the d2 I got out of the scene of modding much.. I then switched to a fascinate and simply used 1 click root method (not too hard.. diff than what i was used to but not hard).. Now i'm completely lost.. I feel using Odin is what was most similar to how I rooted my d1 originally then installed the kernels or themes.. (flash a rom.. flash a kernel.. flash a theme).. Am I wrong?? I keep reading up on how to root, watching the vids.. but there seems to be a disconnect in my tiny little mind!!! lol!
From what I'm gathering when you flash one of the roms listed in other posts you gain root?... Then you can choose which kernel and theme and flash both of those as well? Or are the Roms themselves themed already?? (oh the glory days of the D1 I miss you!) I really hate myself for not keeping up with this stuff!!! My main goal here is root so that I can delete some of the preinstalled apps (just like everyone else wants to).. Of course trying to straighten out this god awful batt life (I have the charging dock with spare battery and go through both batts + some in one day) and possibly a theme (prolly at a later time unless it's easier than I think it is). Anyone care to shine some light on this for me? THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
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From what I'm gathering when you flash one of the roms listed in other posts you gain root?... Then you can choose which kernel and theme and flash both of those as well? Or are the Roms themselves themed already?? (oh the glory days of the D1 I miss you!) I really hate myself for not keeping up with this stuff!!! My main goal here is root so that I can delete some of the preinstalled apps (just like everyone else wants to).. Of course trying to straighten out this god awful batt life (I have the charging dock with spare battery and go through both batts + some in one day) and possibly a theme (prolly at a later time unless it's easier than I think it is). Anyone care to shine some light on this for me? THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
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Most ROMs are themed already by the author, but you can flash other themes over them. The ROMs marked debloated will have some of the preinstalled apps removed already. If that is all you want to do and you dont want the extra stuff some of the ROMs feature, look for "stock debloated" ROMs.
jkcheng122 said:
Most ROMs are themed already by the author, but you can flash other themes over them. The ROMs marked debloated will have some of the preinstalled apps removed already. If that is all you want to do and you dont want the extra stuff some of the ROMs feature, look for "stock debloated" ROMs.
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Ok, that makes a bit more sense... (the fact that they are already themed)
I appreciate the quick response.. I'm assuming then my idea of "how to" is correct. Pick a rom, flash.. Pick a kernel, flash.. if you want another theme... pick it and flash!??
UH OH...I had an accident!
I don't know how the crap this happened, but I had installed a few launchers to try them out. Then I was going to do a CWM backup...so I did. In the process of backing up my phone just randomly restarts and gets stuck at the Samsung logo.
What the crap happened!? Did I brick it? Can I fix it?
Freakin out here...
kagaos said:
UH OH...I had an accident!
I don't know how the crap this happened, but I had installed a few launchers to try them out. Then I was going to do a CWM backup...so I did. In the process of backing up my phone just randomly restarts and gets stuck at the Samsung logo.
What the crap happened!? Did I brick it? Can I fix it?
Freakin out here...
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You are fine. Take the battery out. open odin, plug usb cable into phone, Hold Vol Dn button and plug your usb cable into your pc. Reflash rom that you used to root with. Not sure how you were doin a CWM backup since it does not come with that feature.
dragonstalker said:
You are fine. Take the battery out. open odin, plug usb cable into phone, Hold Vol Dn button and plug your usb cable into your pc. Reflash rom that you used to root with. Not sure how you were doin a CWM backup since it does not come with that feature.
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you beat me to it! I was thinking more along the lines of using an odin restore file though... Wasn't sure which the better option was.
dragonstalker said:
You are fine. Take the battery out. open odin, plug usb cable into phone, Hold Vol Dn button and plug your usb cable into your pc. Reflash rom that you used to root with. Not sure how you were doin a CWM backup since it does not come with that feature.
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question for you.. I'm still missing something here.. Are all the roms listed in the "development" area odin friendly.. OR does it have to have [odin] next to it in order to be flashed with odin?
I'm currently completely stock and looking for the easiest way to root/flash rom.
dragonstalker said:
You are fine. Take the battery out. open odin, plug usb cable into phone, Hold Vol Dn button and plug your usb cable into your pc. Reflash rom that you used to root with. Not sure how you were doin a CWM backup since it does not come with that feature.
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As far as the CWM is concerned...I downloaded it off the app market after I rooted my phone.
But the only thing I did to my phone thus far was root it and added Voodoo Kernel. Should I flash it with that?
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Pick a rom, flash.. Pick a kernel, flash.. if you want another theme... pick it and flash!??
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Most ROMs have their own kernels, if you intend to use the same kernel that comes with the ROM, you can skip the flash kernel part after flashing the ROM.
Your statement should be more like this, "Pick a rom, flash... if you want another kernel and/or theme... pick them/it and flash!??"
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I'm new to the whole smartphone thing but I am very interested in rooting it. Its a droid charge. I am about to download odin but my question is do I need a different memory card or different usb cord other than the one it came with. All I have is what came in the box with the phone, is this enough to root the phone safely. I have alot more research to do, but I can't find an answer to this question. I see something talking about removing the card aswell, is this the card that it came with?
Also can anyone link a legit video or guide to using odin and what is the best and safest ROM to use to date, 6/28/11. Thanks
I got my Charge yesterday and rooted/ROM'd it the same day. I used this thread as a guide and it worked perfectly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122657
What came in the box is enough to get you going.
Thanks for the reply.
I got a few more questions now... I plan on using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122657 as a guide. But some of the words and stuff are confusing to me and I really can't afford to mess this up, literally.
1. When it says install droid drivers does that meen to the computer or phone or both?
2. Is there a way to backup all the contacts or is that all through the gmail account (pretty sure it is but just clarifying)?
Also is there a way to download the stock version with all the settings to my computer incase there is a problem? Or is the only way to download an EE4 stock version found on the internet.
3. I would like to do the voodoo lagfix as well as a root/rom. Should I do voodoo after I get the Root/rom set up? And is doing voodoo lagfix similar to doing a root with odin.
4. Last question I can think of right now is which ROM is the best to date. I only see a few and is stock EE4 deodexed just meen you can take away certain apps that you cannot if not rooted? I really want to delete some of the useless apps that are on there like some golf thing and others like it. Are there any apps that I should not touch that are vital to the phone?
-EE4 Debloated V4.2.1 (is this the same as Deodexed and what does it meen exactally)
-Gummycharged 1.5
-peanutbutta jelly time
-Altered Beast
I basically am looking for a Rom thats fast (obviously) and very customizable and reliable. So whats the best one up to date.
Thanks for anyone that reads this and gives input. Really appreciate it.
I know alot of this info is probably out there but when I search for things people use words that I am unfamiliar with because I have never had a phone that can text before let alone a smart phone.
Edit: Thought of something else. I want to have access to all of the same things I have access to app-wise on stock or more. I think that all of the ROMS should let you do that but just checking. Thanks
dapperdanman55 said:
Thanks for the reply.
I got a few more questions now... I plan on using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122657 as a guide. But some of the words and stuff are confusing to me and I really can't afford to mess this up, literally.
1. When it says install droid drivers does that meen to the computer or phone or both?
Drivers for puter
2. Is there a way to backup all the contacts or is that all through the gmail account (pretty sure it is but just clarifying)?
Also is there a way to download the stock version with all the settings to my computer incase there is a problem? Or is the only way to download an EE4 stock version found on the internet.
Google backs them up for you
3. I would like to do the voodoo lagfix as well as a root/rom. Should I do voodoo after I get the Root/rom set up? And is doing voodoo lagfix similar to doing a root with odin.
There are a few files out there that use ODIN that puts a kernel, rom and voodoo in one file using ODIN
4. Last question I can think of right now is which ROM is the best to date. I only see a few and is stock EE4 deodexed just meen you can take away certain apps that you cannot if not rooted? I really want to delete some of the useless apps that are on there like some golf thing and others like it. Are there any apps that I should not touch that are vital to the phone?
-EE4 Debloated V4.2.1 (is this the same as Deodexed and what does it meen exactally)
-Gummycharged 1.5
-peanutbutta jelly time
-Altered Beast
Use Gummy and use the files that loads everything for you in one step using ODIN
I basically am looking for a Rom thats fast (obviously) and very customizable and reliable. So whats the best one up to date.
Thanks for anyone that reads this and gives input. Really appreciate it.
I know alot of this info is probably out there but when I search for things people use words that I am unfamiliar with because I have never had a phone that can text before let alone a smart phone.
Edit: Thought of something else. I want to have access to all of the same things I have access to app-wise on stock or more. I think that all of the ROMS should let you do that but just checking. Thanks
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you can have access to all and MORE if you are rooted
Good Luck
my answers are in your quoted text above
^^ thanks alot
dapperdanman55 said:
Thanks for the reply.
I got a few more questions now... I plan on using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122657 as a guide. But some of the words and stuff are confusing to me and I really can't afford to mess this up, literally.
1. When it says install droid drivers does that meen to the computer or phone or both?
2. Is there a way to backup all the contacts or is that all through the gmail account (pretty sure it is but just clarifying)?
Also is there a way to download the stock version with all the settings to my computer incase there is a problem? Or is the only way to download an EE4 stock version found on the internet.
3. I would like to do the voodoo lagfix as well as a root/rom. Should I do voodoo after I get the Root/rom set up? And is doing voodoo lagfix similar to doing a root with odin.
4. Last question I can think of right now is which ROM is the best to date. I only see a few and is stock EE4 deodexed just meen you can take away certain apps that you cannot if not rooted? I really want to delete some of the useless apps that are on there like some golf thing and others like it. Are there any apps that I should not touch that are vital to the phone?
-EE4 Debloated V4.2.1 (is this the same as Deodexed and what does it meen exactally)
-Gummycharged 1.5
-peanutbutta jelly time
-Altered Beast
I basically am looking for a Rom thats fast (obviously) and very customizable and reliable. So whats the best one up to date.
Thanks for anyone that reads this and gives input. Really appreciate it.
I know alot of this info is probably out there but when I search for things people use words that I am unfamiliar with because I have never had a phone that can text before let alone a smart phone.
Edit: Thought of something else. I want to have access to all of the same things I have access to app-wise on stock or more. I think that all of the ROMS should let you do that but just checking. Thanks
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1: There are drivers you need to download and install on your computer, you won't be touching your phone until told so in the guide (except for the part where it tells you to install zip from SD card, he never said to drag & drop your kernel/ROM onto the root of the SD card
2: Your Gmail sync will backup your contacts if you allowed it too, and there are EE1 and EE2 stock ROMs you can flash which would revert you back to stock (no root, no superuser, just.. stock) and then you can update to EE4 the same way you did when you got the phone.
3: Use the guide you were linked in the first reply, I'm a first time rooter and that guide worked flawlessly
4: Personally I find GummyCharged 1.8.5 to be the best but take a look at the new Humble ROM, it's still new (which is why I haven't flashed it yet) but Danalo is updating frequently and is currently in development of what could be the best Charge ROM to date, low power, speedy and a nice look... I'm just waiting a little bit til all the bugs and such are sorted out since, as I've said, it's still new
I already flashed the gummycharged and it worked but i would like to try humble. Do I have to wipe it and get it back to stock. I instaled cwm and pbj oc and gummy charged. Do i have to wipe everything and then redo pbj and cwm?
Thanks
No you can flash it with odin right over gummy. When it boots into recovery the first time you bot, just wipe data, cahe and dalvik cache
So I waited for the GB update and I like it but I think it is time to root this phone. I want to stress that I have had this phone since a little bit after it came out about two weeks after and it has run like a champ from day 1. No problems at all so when I updated to gb it was actually a downgrade in some ways like the camera but I definitly like gb because of the text editing but I havent noticed any improvement in battery life or speed or signal or GPS but All thouse things were great before and they are great now.
So I am running GB 2.3.3 withthe july 15 baseband and kernel 2.6.32.9 and I know it is different to root but I dont fully uinderstand it so if someone can post a detailed guide with as much explanation as possible so I understand what I am doing I would greatly appriciate it. I assume you cant get NV flasher from the market (I Havent looked) and what is cwm or cmw and if I flash a new rom will I loose the new baseband? Or can I get root permissions and keep stock GB? Tahnk you for all your help
First read the sticky at the top of the Android Development page. That sticky basically explains everything you will need to know, step by step.
In summary though....
Step 1 - NVFlash (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847)
Step 2 - Download Xboarders Rooted OTA.zip (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179748)
Step 3 - Boot into Clockwork Recovery
Step 4 - Install Zip from SD Card - the Zip you downloaded above
Voila you have rooted GB 2.3.3 with new baseband.
An alternative that I would suggest would be Eaglesblood 1.06 GB 2.3.3 though, smoothest ROM on the boards IMO and based on GB 2.3.3
jabhome said:
An alternative that I would suggest would be Eaglesblood 1.06 GB 2.3.3 though, smoothest ROM on the boards IMO and based on GB 2.3.3
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I've tried both Roms and I would have to sway that Xboarder's Tweaked Rom is the best GB update 2.3.3 Rom.
pdxmatts said:
I've tried both Roms and I would have to sway that Xboarder's Tweaked Rom is the best GB update 2.3.3 Rom.
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Did not try Xboarders tweaked, maybe I will give it a try.
Does swype work on that rom as phone just took a dump with swype beta. First reboot in over two months just now.
Sent from my LG-P999 using Tapatalk
Follow the advice above. I flashed a rom for the first time today.
Does the Netflix app work on xboarder's rom? I'm having issues with HDMI on CM7 going out about every 5 minutes but coming right back. I really need the netflix app for travel.
+1 on xboarders. Runs smooth and has all of the stock features
Sent from my LG-P999
thanks guys that was what I thought. So it really is that easy? What actually gives it the root? is it the xboarders rom? I am going to ask alot of questions because I want to understand how it actually works so please bear with me. It sounds like it actually got easir to root with this update no? It seems like NVflash is a app or program that lets me put the rom on my sim card should I go internal or external? I have a whole bunch of external cards with diffewrent capacitys and the one i use now is 16 gig. Then clockwork recovery is a program that is already on the dvice I dont know if it is part of android or what but it is alrady there right? It lets me choose wether I want to recover or make a backup of roms or install new ones correct? Then when I put the tweeked rom on it has something in it hat roots the phone magically.
Please let me know what I am right about and what I am not right about and give me the correct answers because I really want to know I am a nosey motherfer
Charlie
So According to the thread in this forum titles "how to get the new baseband" the rooted version of the new rom does not contain the new baseband. Or is that the leaked gingerbread that came out a few months ago way before the update came out? He is not talking about xboarders rom right? If I do what was suggested here I will in fact have the new baseband and 2.3.3 rooted right?
Charlie
correct
mojorisin7178 said:
So According to the thread in this forum titles "how to get the new baseband" the rooted version of the new rom does not contain the new baseband. Or is that the leaked gingerbread that came out a few months ago way before the update came out? He is not talking about xboarders rom right? If I do what was suggested here I will in fact have the new baseband and 2.3.3 rooted right?
Charlie
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If you have the new baseband now no roms will change that.
The roms do not include the baseband .
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thanks guys that was what I thought. So it really is that easy? What actually gives it the root? is it the xboarders rom? I am going to ask alot of questions because I want to understand how it actually works so please bear with me. It sounds like it actually got easir to root with this update no? It seems like NVflash is a app or program that lets me put the rom on my sim card should I go internal or external? I have a whole bunch of external cards with diffewrent capacitys and the one i use now is 16 gig. Then clockwork recovery is a program that is already on the dvice I dont know if it is part of android or what but it is alrady there right? It lets me choose wether I want to recover or make a backup of roms or install new ones correct? Then when I put the tweeked rom on it has something in it hat roots the phone magically.
Please let me know what I am right about and what I am not right about and give me the correct answers because I really want to know I am a nosey motherfer
Charlie
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I flash from my external SD Card. You just need to decide where you want to install from, and then make sure you set up NVFlash with the correct support, external or internal.
Not sure of the exact terminology, but I think the procedure itself would be called to NVFlash ClockworkMod. NVFlash is the procedure to install CWM, while CWM is the program that you will run via Volume Down + Power when you boot up. CWM 4.0.0.2 will boot up and from there you will be able to flash roms, backup and restore Nandroids.
Ah that makes sense Now I see CWM stands for Clock work mod. See I was thinking CWM is a rom I actually thought it stood for cyogen mod I just couldnt figure out the W. So when I flash CWM it contains the root permissions already is that how it works?
So I should use nvflash to install cwm then I should probally make a backup of my stock rom. Also If I just install or flash CWM and not flash a new rom then Will my phone be rooted stock? or do I have to flash the xborders rom to gain root?
Thanks alot guys
Charlie
mojorisin7178 said:
Ah that makes sense Now I see CWM stands for Clock work mod. See I was thinking CWM is a rom I actually thought it stood for cyogen mod I just couldnt figure out the W. So when I flash CWM it contains the root permissions already is that how it works?
So I should use nvflash to install cwm then I should probally make a backup of my stock rom. Also If I just install or flash CWM and not flash a new rom then Will my phone be rooted stock? or do I have to flash the xborders rom to gain root?
Thanks alot guys
Charlie
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CWM doesn't "contain" root permissions, it just allows you to flash any ROM into the phone, rooted or otherwise. The Xboarder ROM is pre-rooted, along with most of the others.
THANK YOU!
I too am a noob and was a little confused. I'd search the forums and come up with too much info. Plus, some terms used on this forum are slightly overloaded (in the C++ context) from the classic meanings, like "ROM" and "baseband". Those terms as used here do not mean exactly what they meant 20 years ago.
I'm sure I need to read more on app dev (but I have too many hobbies already), but I'm confused about the layers of s/w. As a noob, I would think the layers would be BIOS or maybe BSP, Linux, Android. So I don't understand:
1) where does the clockwork mod fit within the layers?
1a) nvdia nvflash installs new drivers in the Linux layer?
2) what is contained in the ROM image? A new version of Linux, andriod, nvdia drivers, baseband?
3) Is there a BIOS/BSP, or is all register access done in Linux drivers?
I'm not looking for a developers level answer to these questions, more of the readers digest version of the answers.
Since I'm having black screen of death (I believe referred to here as "SOD"), on two phones, I'd like to understand more, to figure out if this problem is h/w or s/w. I am definitely leaning towards s/w problems and my wife and I would love to keep these phones.
Thanks again.
-Bob
mojorisin7178 said:
Ah that makes sense Now I see CWM stands for Clock work mod. See I was thinking CWM is a rom I actually thought it stood for cyogen mod I just couldnt figure out the W. So when I flash CWM it contains the root permissions already is that how it works?
So I should use nvflash to install cwm then I should probally make a backup of my stock rom. Also If I just install or flash CWM and not flash a new rom then Will my phone be rooted stock? or do I have to flash the xborders rom to gain root?
Thanks alot guys
Charlie
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Continuing off of what Spyvie said, you do need to flash xboarder's rom to gain root, (more like repeating what he said). As for nvflash, this should make things a bit easier. tgagunman made a nice one click feature that if you follow the directions, should be easier to follow. You will get clockwork mod recovery, it will be nvflashed, but it's a lot easier for a non-techie to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
I want to thank everyone who chimed in you guys have been really good to me Bob has some really good questions also and I hope this thread can help you out bob. That is why I started this thread for people like me who are really good with computers and like to mess around but don't quite understand phones. Every time something goes wrong with my PC I go to the forums and I fix it myself then I feel good. (And I have had some real disasters on my PC I have come back from)
Anyway I will be doing this procedure soon as I feel confident that I can do it and I see there is a fix for unbricking phones. One last question before I hit the green light: Can it be unrooted just in case I have to send it back for warantey issues and can CWM be uninstalled? I suspect that since the ROM is pre-rooted that all I would have to do is format and install my original ROM then uninstall CWM is that on point or no? And Again THANKS TO ALL WHO CHIME IN WITH THE ANSWERS AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE OTHERS TO CHIME IN WITH THERE QUESTIONS.
Charlie
Okay so I checked out the links. So I gather that step 1 has to be skipped now because super1click does not work. So we can just NVflash CWM which looks easy enough. Now I have winzip on my computer will that work for extracting .rar files? I am pretty sure it will but I want to make sure. And I am going to shut off user control permissions and I use MS security essentials for my Anti virus so I am thinking of shutting that off for this procedure would that be a wise thing and is there anything else that I should do. I am not a computer expert but I am not a idiot either I am just inexperienced. Thank you guys
Charlie
mojorisin7178 said:
Can it be unrooted just in case I have to send it back for warantey issues and can CWM be uninstalled?
Charlie
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You can restore you Nandroid of the preroot OTA, or you can unroot with the unroot zip that Xboarder provided in his link.
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Okay so I checked out the links. So I gather that step 1 has to be skipped now because super1click does not work. So we can just NVflash CWM which looks easy enough. Now I have winzip on my computer will that work for extracting .rar files? I am pretty sure it will but I want to make sure. And I am going to shut off user control permissions and I use MS security essentials for my Anti virus so I am thinking of shutting that off for this procedure would that be a wise thing and is there anything else that I should do. I am not a computer expert but I am not a idiot either I am just inexperienced. Thank you guys
Charlie
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no, there is nothing else you need to do to your computer. The link provided by the brother above (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847) is where you need to be. Skip the one click root and go straight to NV flash. It will guide you through installing the nvidia drivers you need. TGA_Gunnman has is laid out really nice and easy to follow and the program he put together (one click clm recovery nv flasher) is really simple to understand and use. he also has another post out there (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060715) that is also helpfull. Once you get nv flash done make sure you copy the rom you want on your sd card. IMO Xboarders is very nice and smooth. You will hold down volume down and power together until you see the android screen. Then in the menu use vol keys to move to backup and restore and use power to select. Then move to yes and run the backup. then you can wipe data/factory restore. Then wipe cache. Then go to advanced and wipe dalvic and batt stats. Then go back to "choose zip from sd" and find your rom zip and select it. It will run for a while and tell you when its done, Then go to advanced again and fix permission. After that just go to reboot option and let it reboot. It may take a little longer the first time, just let it go. When it reboots you will have a rooted 2.3.3 with the new baseband you just updated to. After that go to the market and get Titanium Backup and run a backup of all your apps and data. From there your pretty much good to start flashing away. Have fun, Good luck
Hi everyone,
Noob here, looking for some phone specific info. After extensive research I have not found exactly what I'm looking for thus the reason for this post. Thanks in advance.
I'm looking for help finding the safest, simplest, most reliable way to root my 959v. I want to root so that I can a) delete preloaded browser bookmarks b) delete preloaded bloatware c) file share with my PC over WIFI (with Samba?) and d) block pop up ads (adfree). I need to be able to undo this in case of a warranty issue and I don't want to lose any of the function of the phone (i.e. front face camera, contacts sync, wifi).
Couple questions: Will factory reset take care of the bloatware and bookmarks?
Also, has anyone found a way to put a 4g toggle switch icon, like the power bar that comes with the phone, or do I need a new ROM to do this, and what does everyone recommend as for an O.S. / ROM. Thanks!
Firmware: 2.2.1
Kernel: 2.6.32.9
Build: FROYO.VUVKD1
i would suggest you flash ravers odin kj6 rom. then flash drhonks kj1 kernel with odin too in order to root it. both go in pda section. then flash through cwm soma's simplysimple rom wich is debloated or just use titanium backup to remove bloat from your rooted stock kj6.
I consider myself pretty technical but I don't completely understand Roms and kernels. By flashing a ROM, are you changing the OS and/or GUI? Does it overwrite the old OS or just make an amendment to it? Will any old Roms be left taking up useless space in memory? What about kernels? Thanks,,
Joe
Flashing a new rom is like re-installing windows on a PC. you need to backup your data before you flash.
The best way to root, is to either use ODIN to flash a new kernel that already had root (doesn't replace the whole rom), or use the latest superoneclick to root. Rooting does not erase your data. Then you can use a program like titanium backup to remove bloatware.
check out the dev form, and look for the bible thread, there are links to roms and guides on how to safely flash your phone. You are going to have to read up a bit to become familiar with how this phone works.
good luck.
Normally, I follow FB's ext4 guide.
But since my phone has been UnBrickable Modded, I've made a kj6 Back-To-Stock One-Click. This oneclick will basically get your phone to where it would be if you got your phone new with kj6 preloaded. RaverX3X tested for me, so I know it works well. After you run the one-click, odin kj1 from drhonk or extract the zImage and Heimdall it to KERNEL and RECOVERY partitions.
If you run the One-Click a second time, you will also get the right bootloaders for GB.
What if I have the KD1? What is all this KJ6/KJ1 about? Do I have to find and manually reinstall drivers for my device? Does a ROM need to be compatible with a Kernel or vice versa? How do I know what ROMS/Kernels will work with my device?
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What if I have the KD1? What is all this KJ6/KJ1 about? Do I have to find and manually reinstall drivers for my device? Does a ROM need to be compatible with a Kernel or vice versa? How do I know what ROMS/Kernels will work with my device?
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Well, KJ6 was just released (leaks and source).
KJ1 (kernel) was the last voodoo kernel that drhonk made.
There isn't a KJ6 voodoo kernel, yet.
KD1 is Froyo.
Drivers... If the drivers you have now work, then don't change them
The roms and kernels we are all talking about will work with your device, because they are modified leaks for your device.
Just don't go off flashing stuff from other device forums. That is stupid.
You're basically safe if you mix froyo kernels with froyo roms, and gingerbread kernels with gingerbread roms.
Ok thanks a lot that I can understand. I'll need to brush up on differences between gingerbraed vs. froyo, and whether or not ice cream sandwich is going to be worth the headache. I'm actually happy with the stock rom, it's just that I hate bloatware, and any spy programs, and I want total control over my file access, wifi file sharing, bookmarks/etc. So really all I need to do is root the phone, I was thinking of superoneclick, but I'm not sure the device is supported.
Okay. You NEED to READ. Really dont know if SuperOneClick works with our phone? Come on. Do some research first.
There's a lot of techno jargon babble out there I'm trying to sort through, I'm not 100% literate on everything smartphone yet. When you flash a new kernel, say, KJ6, what happens to your applications? In a windows system they would stop working, but their data files would still exist. Are programs unchanged, do they leave useless data files, or can they somehow be reactivated, like the installer package and the data are in the same folder, just need a little help filling in the blanks Thanks
I know how you feel, but there is not "do it just like this and you will get this result," because development has been fast and furious, even a little ad hoc. The Bible is useful to a point, but in the end you are just going to have to read and cautiously test. If you stick with stock KJ6, your phone should work as intended. If you move to a custom ROM, some things may be buggy and other things may work even better than stock. For instance, battery life is improved via a couple roms I have tried, but wifi (dynamic dhcp) suffers. You just have to proceeed CAUTIOUSLY. Tha's the best advice I can offer.
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There's a lot of techno jargon babble out there I'm trying to sort through, I'm not 100% literate on everything smartphone yet. When you flash a new kernel, say, KJ6, what happens to your applications? In a windows system they would stop working, but their data files would still exist. Are programs unchanged, do they leave useless data files, or can they somehow be reactivated, like the installer package and the data are in the same folder, just need a little help filling in the blanks Thanks
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If you are looking to JUST ROOT your SGS4G then I would recommend SuperOneClick. Version 2.2 worked for me running stock 2.3.6.
I'm rooting my phone as we speak using superoneclick 1.6.5 shortfuse. I enabled usb debugging, download samsung drivers to pc, installed drivers to pc, then started superoneclick and plugged in the phone. Clicked rageagainstthecage, "ROOT", then after about 10 minutes my girlfriend called me, which I had to answer, only to find out that she was breaking up with me, then it got to the part where it says "running rageagainstthecage" and now it's basically frozen after 30 minutes, superoneclick icon saying "(Not Responding)" Great...
Update: No combination of rebooting and rageagainstthecage was compatible with my device/os/version of superoneclick. I used SuperOneClick 1.6.5, my OS is stock 2.2 froyo, and the with usb debugging enabled, it froze every time. Using psneuter, it worked ok, the superuser icon is there... so, for a test. I went to the browser, still cannot delete those annoying bookmarks. Ok, so now to try and delete some bloatware.... still cannot delete any factory installed programs. So, that seems a bit pointless, I'm going to play with wifi filesharing, file explorer, and see what I can access, will report back.
My ultimate goal is to have a fast as **** phone, complete functionality, no bloatware, all custom apps, I want to be able to shortucut ANYTHING to the desktop, especially a 4g toggle switch. How close am I? So far the phone runs a lot slower than before I rooted.
<< Another wierd glitch, when I went to the market without rebooting the phone first, the screen went black, it vibrated in sets of 3 pulses, and I had to hard power down to reset. Went back to market and problem did not reoccur>>
Ok so I installed Titanium Backup, umm yay now for some fun, started deleting everything that didn't look familiar including those pesky sec.android.acore.blahblahblah and now my phone does that 3 vibe thing and I have to reboot. Ok so next chore is reflashing the rom I guess....
Glad you got it working... ummm, sort of?
From what I understand about where you are, I would
1. Use odin 1.8.5 to flash KJ6 stock.
2. Let it reboot and do its thing for a bit (say, 5 minutes?)
3. Check to see if everything is working, stock--4g, wifi, browser, market etc.
4. Use SuperOneClick 2.2 (after setting usb debug in settings-->applications) to root. May take a few tense minutes, but it works. Least it did for me.
5. Load your titanium and uninstall stock apps as you desire.
6. Get a full charge and calibrate your battery.
7. Lust after the roms (especially the great looking 2.3.5 based one by Raverx3x) that require CWM, but cry over your fear of a no-stock recovery.
Should get you where you want to go.
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Ok so I installed Titanium Backup, umm yay now for some fun, started deleting everything that didn't look familiar including those pesky sec.android.acore.blahblahblah and now my phone does that 3 vibe thing and I have to reboot. Ok so next chore is reflashing the rom I guess....
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Well, I'm officially the master of this sheeet box. DAAAAANG SKIIPPPY FOLKS I had a soft brick condition, didn't know what the f to do, started getting lost on google and good old you tube led me home, can you believe I was bout to cut my usb wire to make a jig no no no not necessary, just hold both volume button and plug in usb, it goes to download mode. Next I couldn't get odin to recognize the phone but eventually went straight to pc (not through my usb hub) and it popped up, I flased the zip of the closest thing I could find to my stock 2.2 froyo, now I have KB5, kernel 2.6.32.9 wtf wow it almost the same but noticeably different, the settings menu is different, it came pre-rooted, but video skype works perfectly and on front facing camera booyah
been fun fellas talk again soon
I am glad you are where you want to be, but DUDE! I assumed you knew how to get into download mode up vol+down vol+plug in usb. Jeeez! That's frickin' basic! Anyway, glad you're sailing. You should be able to Odin 2.3.6 and root it with SuperOneClick 2.2 now, if you want. I am still trying to get upo the nerve to load CWM and try Raverx3x's Octane. It's a downgrade from 2.3.6, but the screenshots look tasty!
Farlander said:
Well, I'm officially the master of this sheeet box. DAAAAANG SKIIPPPY FOLKS I had a soft brick condition, didn't know what the f to do, started getting lost on google and good old you tube led me home, can you believe I was bout to cut my usb wire to make a jig no no no not necessary, just hold both volume button and plug in usb, it goes to download mode. Next I couldn't get odin to recognize the phone but eventually went straight to pc (not through my usb hub) and it popped up, I flased the zip of the closest thing I could find to my stock 2.2 froyo, now I have KB5, kernel 2.6.32.9 wtf wow it almost the same but noticeably different, the settings menu is different, it came pre-rooted, but video skype works perfectly and on front facing camera booyah
been fun fellas talk again soon
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Really wtf. Download phone drivers, Odin program, Ravers Odin Kj6 ROM and drhonk KJ1 kernel. You need nothing else.
SOC 2.x
How many times and in how many (slightly) different ways can one say the same damn thing? If he has flashed KJ6 already and wants to keep that kernel, then I still say SuperOneClick 2.2 will root his device. Am I wrong? Why do people keep using SOC 1.x then complain about not getting it to root their gb 2.3.6 successfully?
SOC 2.x...use it!
http://shortfuse.org/
chris31jct said:
Really wtf. Download phone drivers, Odin program, Ravers Odin Kj6 ROM and drhonk KJ1 kernel. You need nothing else.
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Hello,
I recently upgraded my AT&T Samsung SGH-I997 (Infuse 4g) to the new GINGERBREAD.UCKL2 (2.3.6) version using Kies-Mini.
Now...
I got SuperOneClick v.2.3.3.0 to root the phone, just as I had done before with Froyo.
I made sure USB Debugging was on.
I started SuperOneClick and clicked ROOT
I plugged my phone into USB (Did not click to connect)
SuperOneClick freezes on Step 7.
I have tried every method out there to get around this.
Ideas? Thanks.
kylepurdon said:
Hello,
I recently upgraded my AT&T Samsung SGH-I997 (Infuse 4g) to the new GINGERBREAD.UCKL2 (2.3.6) version using Kies-Mini.
Now...
I got SuperOneClick v.2.3.3.0 to root the phone, just as I had done before with Froyo.
I made sure USB Debugging was on.
I started SuperOneClick and clicked ROOT
I plugged my phone into USB (Did not click to connect)
SuperOneClick freezes on Step 7.
I have tried every method out there to get around this.
Ideas? Thanks.
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SOC has not been reported to be a good tool for root.
I recalled 1 user reported success with repeat attempts.
You can try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
Try a few times...see if there is a zerg rush option also.
Let us know.
edit...nvm...doesn't work...only up to 2.3.5
qkster said:
SOC has not been reported to be a good tool for root.
I recalled 1 user reported success with repeat attempts.
You can try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
Try a few times...see if there is a zerg rush option also.
Let us know.
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Tried the method linked to above twice to no avail. Each time the process is apparently run without a hitch -- and the phone automatically reboots. But there is no root access when I check using root check or trying to run Titanium BU. If anyone has any other ideas, I'm all ears. I'd like to get rooted....
yes please be a guinni pig. but i dont have high hopes for rooting without a non secure kernel.
now that the bulk of users arent scare of gb since it became official it would be nice to see if anything will root it other than a kernel (the kernel swap is fool proof but annoying with all the lagfix and sdcard mounting weirdness that we have right now, need sources and devs... lol)
Dani897 said:
yes please be a guinni pig. but i dont have high hopes for rooting without a non secure kernel.
now that the bulk of users arent scare of gb since it became official it would be nice to see if anything will root it other than a kernel (the kernel swap is fool proof but annoying with all the lagfix and sdcard mounting weirdness that we have right now, need sources and devs... lol)
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Here is where I saw this claim:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308607&page=2
a few post down...
yeah but that says 2.3.5 from samfirmwares. 2.3.5 was rootable with any tool that used zergrush. it is the 2.3.6 builds that are an issue..
Dani897 said:
yeah but that says 2.3.5 from samfirmwares. 2.3.5 was rootable with any tool that used zergrush. it is the 2.3.6 builds that are an issue..
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Yeah, I tried it on my newly updated (to 2.3.6 build) Infuse about half dozen times (via SOC), to no avail. Gave psneuter exploit a couple tries too. Oh well.
Dani897 said:
yeah but that says 2.3.5 from samfirmwares. 2.3.5 was rootable with any tool that used zergrush. it is the 2.3.6 builds that are an issue..
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you're right. up to uckj4 was possible.
I wasn't paying attention to the last .5 to .6 change after uckj4
I am in the same boat. I didn't do the research about the ease of rooting prior to moving to gingerbread. I have been waiting intently and checking often for this official gingerbread release.
So far I am noticing tremendously increased battery life. I could normally run 8-10 hours and with the same usage I am getting 14-16.
I miss my root terribly- I use it to Wifi Tether for my laptop among many things.
I am willing to be a tester, I have no experience with rooting or flashing beyond SOC. I am an old-school blackrain/redsnow guy from my iphone days so I get nervous with all this "flashing kernels" talk.
Any advice for a novice wanting to enjoy some gingerbread goodness without sacrificing root?
Any recommended kernels to flash to for the infuse? I want it to be as close to stock as possible without losing features or my newfound battery.
Root FTW!
Lordkuruku7 said:
I am in the same boat. I didn't do the research about the ease of rooting prior to moving to gingerbread. I have been waiting intently and checking often for this official gingerbread release.
So far I am noticing tremendously increased battery life. I could normally run 8-10 hours and with the same usage I am getting 14-16.
I miss my root terribly- I use it to Wifi Tether for my laptop among many things.
I am willing to be a tester, I have no experience with rooting or flashing beyond SOC. I am an old-school blackrain/redsnow guy from my iphone days so I get nervous with all this "flashing kernels" talk.
Any advice for a novice wanting to enjoy some gingerbread goodness without sacrificing root?
Any recommended kernels to flash to for the infuse? I want it to be as close to stock as possible without losing features or my newfound battery.
Root FTW!
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Try Zeus Build 5.2 stock or Victory or Leak Uckl2 rooted. There are all uckl2 based. As Close to stock as possible.
I wonder if downgrading to older rooted firmware and then using CWM, applying a zip format of the UCKL2 rooted ROM would work? Just a thought...
I don't know if this method works.
Flash a custom kernel with root on it. Then flash back to stock kernel. Worked when leak came out, so I don't see why it won't work with this since they're identical.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997
Lordkuruku7 said:
So far I am noticing tremendously increased battery life. I could normally run 8-10 hours and with the same usage I am getting 14-16.
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It's strange you say that... My battery life was excellent (before update) and is now dreadful. I'd love to go back to stock Froyo if I knew how...
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I wonder if downgrading to older rooted firmware and then using CWM, applying a zip format of the UCKL2 rooted ROM would work? Just a thought...
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yes that would work. but you could also flash the rooted leak with a flashtool like odin or swap kernels around with a flash tool like odin or heimdall since you will need it to flash stock anyhow....
im working on it, seems answering the question isnt enough, i have to make it simple and all parts in one place with a unified instruction set and a large banner that says "root gingerbread update!"
That sounds awesome Dani. I don't mind the idea of trying out something like Zeus or Odin. I love Greek and Norse mythology so these names really hit home. I guess I just need the proper files and a "hold my hand and walk me through" for the exact scenario I'm in. Thanks in advance for all the replies and suggestions.
Lordkuruku7 said:
That sounds awesome Dani. I don't mind the idea of trying out something like Zeus or Odin. I love Greek and Norse mythology so these names really hit home. I guess I just need the proper files and a "hold my hand and walk me through" for the exact scenario I'm in. Thanks in advance for all the replies and suggestions.
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Zeus is a great ROM stable and with many extras themes, check it out, I run the NumasX 1.1 here is the Zeus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412957
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Zeus is a great ROM stable and with many extras themes, check it out, I run the NumasX 1.1 here is the Zeus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412957
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this is true but some people prefer stock (odexed and all) and its not totally unreasonable. I'm running Zeus myself. and it is quicker than other kl2 builds I used. I have all the stuff I want to put together but I'm juggling time with watching my nephews, fixing my car and later the big game and I have to test every thing in there too. I'm a bit slow but ill get everything together before tomorrow I'm sure.
Hello I'm fairly new to this mod stuff. I had a Captivate and used SOC without a hitch. Never had to flash anything well not that I know of. I'd like to root my Infuse to really get rid of all the bloatware and put on an ad blocker. Can someone run down the steps of how to flash my phone or point me to a good link? Much appreciated
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Hello I'm fairly new to this mod stuff. I had a Captivate and used SOC without a hitch. Never had to flash anything well not that I know of. I'd like to root my Infuse to really get rid of all the bloatware and put on an ad blocker. Can someone run down the steps of how to flash my phone or point me to a good link? Much appreciated
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hang on. they pulled the update and will release another one.
bassicaly you can flash a Rogers based custom kernel for root but the sdcard mounting and video and wifi is all different and depending on the kernel you flash may not work. the more recent version of these kernels have workarounds in the boot scripts and will fix the sdcard and wifi, the video is a fix you gotta do yourself and the Rogers phone doesn't support HDMI so that is lost. the best thing to do is flash a custom kernel for one boot and flash back to stock. I was making a cwm package to flash the kernel to stock but had errors in my updater script. I can fix it but I'm waiting on the next update because I don't feel like doing it twice. I figure if someone truely needs root they should be able to follow the Rogers root thread an get through it.
if you want to do it manually you will need the stock kernel and a custom kernel like the Rogers root kernel. and you will want the ultimate unbrick package (just in case) and a copy of Odin3 v1.7 or v1.82 or heimdall. there is an Odin flashable copy of the kl2 kernel floating around somewhere. maybe in the numas rom or Caty rom thread but if not it can be extracted from the package from prezkret and zip'd and flashed with sgs kernel flasher.
when. you have all the parts, open odin and load the custom kernel into the PDA slot. the kernel must be in a tarball. that's an archive with a ".tar" extension. it may also be in a ".tar.md5" put the phone in download mode (shut down the phone and hold volume+ and volume- and insert the USB cable) when you see the android with a shovel start the flash.
reboot the phone, then flash the stock kl2 kernel. (don't flash the kg3 kernel from the Rogers thread or a froyo kernel) if you have the stock kernel in a .tar or .tar.md5 flash it the same way as before. if you have a zImage only then zip it and flash it through sgs kernel flasher from the market.
Any luck how to root 2.3.6 ?
My wife uses an Evo Shift and has essentially hated it from day one. We are still locked under contract for another 8 months or she would move to an iPhone (what I use). A major frustration of hers was battery life so I recently purchased some 1700mAh replacement batteries. These batteries have been performing well but in my investigation I learned that I should wipe the battery stats. Obviously to do that I need to root so the last few days I've been reading about rooting and the benefits.
As I've been reading about rooting I realize that I should probably install a new ROM to hopefully solve some of the other things she hates with her Shift (or Android). The biggest issue is that she still experiences the Sense home screen crash but she complains about everything from dropped calls, bluetooth not connecting, app crashes, slow performance and more. I don't know how much of her issues are Sprint vs. Evo Shift vs. software but at this point I figure trying something new couldn't hurt.
I don't want to lose some of the visual eye candy of Android and I do think she likes the interface of HTC Sense if only it would work properly. So rather than installing something like CyanogenMod which I believe is for power users and sacrifices some eye candy, what HTC Sense ROM would you recommend for a wife who is fed up with Android and just wants her phone to work in a reasonable fashion?
Thanks.
If she wants sense and better battery life I'd go with mikshift V2.0 and flash dodges or x99's kernel.
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Honestly it sounds like she'd be happier on stock rooted sense. I have the latest stock sense rooted on rom manager. Obiously you need root to use rom manager to download any roms. I use x99percent's gingerbread kernel on it and it works great. Some of the other sense roms seem to have some bugs here and there, so if you want a bug free sense rom with root I'd go with stock rooted. Also the benifits of running a stock sense rom is you have the option to remove anything you don't use or want, like the bloat that comes with stock sense. When you remove some of the bloat or unwanted apps the phone seems to perform a little better. You can use something like titanium backup to remove unwanted apps.
YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
If she wants sense and better battery life I'd go with mikshift V2.0 and flash dodges or x99's kernel.
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sparksco said:
Honestly it sounds like she'd be happier on stock rooted sense. I have the latest stock sense rooted on rom manager. Obiously you need root to use rom manager to download any roms. I use x99percent's gingerbread kernel on it and it works great. Some of the other sense roms seem to have some bugs here and there, so if you want a bug free sense rom with root I'd go with stock rooted. Also the benifits of running a stock sense rom is you have the option to remove anything you don't use or want, like the bloat that comes with stock sense. When you remove some of the bloat or unwanted apps the phone seems to perform a little better. You can use something like titanium backup to remove unwanted apps.
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Thanks for the replies.
I'm certainly new with Rooting and trying to freshen up on the language. A few questions. Does a stock sense rom essentially mean that I root but don't install any ROM and just use the HTC Sense that she already has on the phone?
Also, I am seeing mention of flashing the kernel which I thought I would stay away from. It just seemed scarier to me but I would be willing to give it a try if you think it is essential in getting performance. Is there any reason to be more concerned with flashing the kernel as opposed to rooting or a custom ROM or is it more a "once you start down the path to the dark side forever will it dominate your destiny?" kind of thing? In other words if you are going to go ahead and root don't half a$$ it and make sure you get the full experience?
Thanks.
ks-man said:
Thanks for the replies.
I'm certainly new with Rooting and trying to freshen up on the language. A few questions. Does a stock sense rom essentially mean that I root but don't install any ROM and just use the HTC Sense that she already has on the phone?
Also, I am seeing mention of flashing the kernel which I thought I would stay away from. It just seemed scarier to me but I would be willing to give it a try if you think it is essential in getting performance. Is there any reason to be more concerned with flashing the kernel as opposed to rooting or a custom ROM or is it more a "once you start down the path to the dark side forever will it dominate your destiny?" kind of thing? In other words if you are going to go ahead and root don't half a$$ it and make sure you get the full experience?
Thanks.
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Well first things first. You do not have to be Rooted to calibrate your battery. You can calibrate the battery without Root. Just follow the instructions HERE. There is also some good info in THIS article. You can run a Stock Sense Rom that is rooted. But how you achieve that depends on your starting point. If your currnetly on 2.3 Gingerbread, then your going to have to downgrade to root. Then flash a Stock Rooted version of 2.3. Your best bet would be x99 Stock Rooted GB if you want to stay completely Stock. But if you want something that is very close to Stock, with a bunch of extras, Uber Stable, and FAST. Then I would Flash MikShiftedG v2.0. The Rom has WiFi, and USB Tether enabled, which is just one of the great extras. Now if your on 2.2 Froyo, then all you have to do is Root. As to your last question about flashing a kernel. I would just root the device if that's the path you choose. Flash a Rom, if you go that route. Then just see how it performs before flashing a Kernel. I would also recomend doing a lot of reading, and ask questions if your unsure. Make sure your comfortable with the process, and what your going to do before doing anything.
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Well first things first. You do not have to be Rooted to calibrate your battery. You can calibrate the battery without Root. Just follow the instructions HERE. There is also some good info in THIS article. You can run a Stock Sense Rom that is rooted. But how you achieve that depends on your starting point. If your currnetly on 2.3 Gingerbread, then your going to have to downgrade to root. Then flash a Stock Rooted version of 2.3. Your best bet would be x99 Stock Rooted GB if you want to stay completely Stock. But if you want something that is very close to Stock, with a bunch of extras, Uber Stable, and FAST. Then I would Flash MikShiftedG v2.0. The Rom has WiFi, and USB Tether enabled, which is just one of the great extras. Now if your on 2.2 Froyo, then all you have to do is Root. As to your last question about flashing a kernel. I would just root the device if that's the path you choose. Flash a Rom, if you go that route. Then just see how it performs before flashing a Kernel. I would also recomend doing a lot of reading, and ask questions if your unsure. Make sure your comfortable with the process, and what your going to do before doing anything.
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Yeah but x99percent's is not the latest stock update it's android 2.3.3. The One I have on rom manager is 2.3.4 rooted stock I still use his kernel on it it's wonderfull, but it does not come with his kernel outta the box. The nice thing about a kernel is you can flash it and if you don't like it you can just reflash the rom no wipe or restore to a nandroid backup and you'll be back on the stock kernel pretty much like you said.
Hmmm, then he would be better off with the one you have. If he wants to stay closer to Stock.
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for ****s and giggles try cm7 my wife likes it? Easy an smooth yes she liked cm7 the best. She says because of the options. Have her try them both a good cm7 optimised and a good sense. Not like its going to hurt to try.
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I checked this morning and she is on 2.3.4. I'm not sure when it got updated. Do I still have the same options available as if she was just on 2.3.3? I like the idea of trying Mik Shifted 2.0. From a quick check I think I would be going with the Shift version that is 1.7.6, correct?
Wiping battery stats will not cause any increase in battery life. There's a great read out there that a google employee posted on their G+ page about this. Essentially the battery stats are just one file that stores the info you see in the battery usage info menu. It gets deleted each time you unplug your phone after a full charge anyway. Also, beware of cheap aftermarket batteries that claim a higher mAh capacity than the stock battery as often times they are lower quality cells and will not perform as well. Don't be fooled by low prices on ebay or otherwise, you get what you pay for with batteries.
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I checked this morning and she is on 2.3.4. I'm not sure when it got updated. Do I still have the same options available as if she was just on 2.3.3? I like the idea of trying Mik Shifted 2.0. From a quick check I think I would be going with the Shift version that is 1.7.6, correct?
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We have a thread on how to root on 2.3.4 I would link you to in but I'm on my phone. Someone will link you to it I'm sure and if not I will when i get home
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
We have a thread on how to root on 2.3.4 I would link you to in but I'm on my phone. Someone will link you to it I'm sure and if not I will when i get home
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No link is necessary, I've seen the thread. It appears that when you are on 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 essentially you are downgrading to 2.2 and then rooting, correct? I had wanted to use this Gui method for rooting. After I've gone down to 2.2 I should be able to use it, right? At that point it doesn't matter where you started since you are now effectively back to the Froyo bootloader and loading a custom Android version?
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I checked this morning and she is on 2.3.4. I'm not sure when it got updated. Do I still have the same options available as if she was just on 2.3.3? I like the idea of trying Mik Shifted 2.0. From a quick check I think I would be going with the Shift version that is 1.7.6, correct?
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Yes you still have the option to flash Mik Shifted 2.0 and also 2.3.4 stock rooted once the phone is rooted. Both of these are available for root users.
Couple of questions. I've been reading this thread about rooting from 2.3.4 and it mentions says:
"0) A PRECAUTIONARY THING TO NOTE: YOU WILL BE ON BASEBAND 1.07 AND WIMAX 27167 AFTER ROOTING! YOU SHOULD FLASH 1.08.01.0111 AND WIMAX 27240 AFTER ROOTING. ALSO NOTE THAT BEFORE YOU FLASH THE RADIOS MAKE SURE YOU ARE STILL ON STOCK 2.2 TO AVOID BOOT CORRUPTION AND MORE WORK. AFTER FLASHING THE RADIOS YOU SHOULD REFLASH CLOCKWORK RECOVERY, WIPE CACHE, WIPE DALVIK, FORMAT /SYSTEM, WIPE DATA/FACTORY RESET AND REFLASH YOUR ROM OF CHOICE!"
So I started going over this thread about flashing the radio and wimax. This is all coming at me so fast and is quite intimidating. I want to root and start down this path but it seems that I'm now dealing with downgrading, rooting, flashing ROM, flashing baseband, flashing Wimax and it is all getting a little scary.
I also want to make sure my wife isn't without her phone for a day or two as I'm working through all of this and probably coming here with a bunch of questions. Is it really bad if I follow the root instructions and don't immediately flash the baseband and wimax? I can't even tell which steps go in which order right now. Any advice would be appreciated.
U should just go through the rooting process first! Forget about everything else, I.e. radio, wimax, etc... u can always do that later when ur more comfortable. One thing at a time, everyone here is very helpful so I wouldn't worry too much!
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letmeputdatipin said:
U should just go through the rooting process first! Forget about everything else, I.e. radio, wimax, etc... u can always do that later when ur more comfortable. One thing at a time, everyone here is very helpful so I wouldn't worry too much!
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Thanks, I definitely think that is the right strategy to first get comfortable.
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Ignore this question, I got it working.
I created a new thread for this other question but thought I might as well post it here.
I can't seem to get the Windows driver installed for the Evo Shift. I uninstalled the USB Mass Storage drivers for the Android phone and the phone shows up in Device Manager with the Yellow triangle, but whenever I try and update its driver and point it to the USB Driver folder from the Android SDK it says that Windows could not find driver software for the device.
Any ideas here? I did try using ADB to check for devices and nothing shows up in the list.
Thanks for the help.
Yeah If I remember correctly there is not rooting method for the new update stock sense with android 2.3.4. you can downgrade to froyo and root from there but there is no rooting for 2.3.4 gingerbread. If you want to get back on sense 2.3.4 you have to downgrade first and then flash a custom 2.3.4 rooted rom like the one I have on rom manager!
ks-man said:
I checked this morning and she is on 2.3.4. I'm not sure when it got updated. Do I still have the same options available as if she was just on 2.3.3? I like the idea of trying Mik Shifted 2.0. From a quick check I think I would be going with the Shift version that is 1.7.6, correct?
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Yes you still have the same options. The thread OP for MikShiftedG v2.0 has been updated. But it is MikShiftedG v2.0 for the Shift.
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Wiping battery stats will not cause any increase in battery life. There's a great read out there that a google employee posted on their G+ page about this. Essentially the battery stats are just one file that stores the info you see in the battery usage info menu. It gets deleted each time you unplug your phone after a full charge anyway. Also, beware of cheap aftermarket batteries that claim a higher mAh capacity than the stock battery as often times they are lower quality cells and will not perform as well. Don't be fooled by low prices on ebay or otherwise, you get what you pay for with batteries.
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Correct wiping Battery Stats does not increase battery life. But it does give you a more accurate reading. I believe the information your referng to is THIS. You also have to keep in mind that he was was discussing the fact that it does not add battery life. Nothing was mentioned as to whether or not it improves the accuracy of the information displayed. Keep in mind that a lot of things change when you flash a New Rom.
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Yes you still have the same options. The thread OP for MikShiftedG v2.0 has been updated. But it is MikShiftedG v2.0 for the Shift.
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Not sure I'm following you. If I go to this thread, it is clearly talking about MikShifted 1.76 and takes me to a download page where I can get 1.76. Is this different than the 2.0 you are discussing? I don't think it is since it mentions somewhere in that thread that 1.76 is for the Shift which is essentially the same as 2.0 for one of the other phones.
Follow the link I've attached below. It should take you right to where you need to be. You do not need the Tweaks update.
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?10381-MikShifted-G-v2-0-12-18-2011
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