2430MAH HIGH CAPACITY BA S560 BATTERY - Made in Japan FOR HTC SENSATION - HTC Sensation

2430MAH HIGH CAPACITY BA S560 BATTERY - Made in Japan FOR HTC SENSATION
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2430MAH-H...ltDomain_3&hash=item2eb6335e16#ht_2218wt_1139
£12.95
Hope its not a joke 2430mah
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bought one too lol. gonna see if it's legit. doubtful though.

Gooooojjjjjiiiiiirrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

Reminds me of those gizmos you plug into your cigarette lighter that are supposed to double your gas mileage.
But hey, it's a "Business Battery" so it's probably legit.
Here's a clue. When you get it weigh it on a gram scale. See how much difference there is between it and the stock battery. That will likely approximate it's actual capacity. Good luck.

no offense but that label looks fake to me...
character set looks like Chinese.
also japan do not sell sensation yet. an not plan yet so it is hard to believe it is from japan.
i do have sensation but i got it from hkg.

kawasaks said:
no offense but that label looks fake to me...
character set looks like Chinese.
also japan do not sell sensation yet. an not plan yet so it is hard to believe it is from japan.
i do have sensation but i got it from hkg.
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That seems bizarre even in the world of battery scams. You think a Chinese company is putting "Made in Japan" on the battery, or is a Japanese company putting Chinese characters on it? Obviously it can fool Westerners, but it seems like a really, really dumb mistake.

i was doing research on this battery for last couple days as well, then i came to a couple threads with people ripping off that "gold label".. and it says something like 900mAh.
I mean if its truly 2430mAh that's great, but i ended up getting the Chichitec 1900mAh battery because of reputable reviews. Just a heads up. If you guys google for 2430 Gold Battery, there are threads about it

Some Chinese and Japanese characters are very similar or the same.
That said, regardless of what is printed on the battery, this still seems like its too good to be true.
Unless HTC used junk cells on their OEM batteries and these batteries are top of the cells its highly doubtful that a no-name battery will have a >55% increase in capacity without any physical size increase.

Elchemist said:
Some Chinese and Japanese characters are very similar or the same.
That said, regardless of what is printed on the battery, this still seems like its too good to be true.
Unless HTC used junk cells on their OEM batteries and these batteries are top of the cells its highly doubtful that a no-name battery will have a >55% increase in capacity without any physical size increase.
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Totally agree. That 2430 mah stamped on it is the biggest warning sign of all. It's got scam written all over it.

Went through some of the feedback regarding this battery, several stated it was tested at only 1200-1300mAh..

This is my biggest worry about no-name batteries. Even if I didn't get the capacity as advertise, but got something very close to the OEM capacity I would call it a draw.
Buying something that is advertise as >OEM, and then to only find out in reality its closer to 60% of OEM capacity sucks.
Knowing me, if I was really drawn in, by either clever marketing, a fancy site, or unverified reviews I would try to convince myself that it was performing better than it was. 'Optimizing' my usage pattern for the battery...
Yori- said:
i was doing research on this battery for last couple days as well, then i came to a couple threads with people ripping off that "gold label".. and it says something like 900mAh.
I mean if its truly 2430mAh that's great, but i ended up getting the Chichitec 1900mAh battery because of reputable reviews. Just a heads up. If you guys google for 2430 Gold Battery, there are threads about it
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I read reviews on this battery for other devices mainly the desire and user reported its about the same as stock but no noticeable difference :/

Is it supposed to be the same size?

theredundant said:
bought one too lol. gonna see if it's legit. doubtful though.
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did you get yours yet? any result updates for us?
thanks

yeah, anybody get theirs yet and confirmed the battery specs?

Elchemist said:
Some Chinese and Japanese characters are very similar or the same.
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Yes Chinese only has ieroglyphs, while Japanese has ieroglyphs and kana (kidn of alphabet)
but font-types are very different. The bettery has japanese characters on it but printed using Chinese fonts, which Japanese will never do. Also the gold embalation is very suspisious. usually it is just black.
Further more, cell betteries even for Japanese phones are rarely made in Japan. most of them come from abroad.

morphosin said:
did you get yours yet? any result updates for us?
thanks
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I've yet to receive the battery mate, will update once i've tested it out...

E-cell are selling these! ?
There's 2 years warranty.

samnada said:
That seems bizarre even in the world of battery scams. You think a Chinese company is putting "Made in Japan" on the battery, or is a Japanese company putting Chinese characters on it? Obviously it can fool Westerners, but it seems like a really, really dumb mistake.
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those ignorant westerners, when dey gona lurn!

dbirdflyshi said:
those ignorant westerners, when dey gona lurn!
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I'd wager we're keeping these battery scammers in business, so not learning soon enough.

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[Q] Anyone Tried this? GOLD 1930mAH BATTERY JAPAN

Has anyone tried this?
If it is correct it should be a catch ? It seems original size (no info though), cailmed to be 1930 mah, and Japan made? £9.99 ?
If it is real i can buy 2 or 3 of them?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SAMSUNG-i9000...eBatteries&hash=item2eb0af80fd#ht_2965wt_1251
i've got one. it's on "the way"
but i will never belive that it was made even near to Japan shore )
When do you expect it to arrive ? and would you be so nice to post your review here ? Thanks .
they said "5 days" wich means around 4 left.
i will let you know how it behaves, my JM1 (lagfixed) already works around 3-4 days with the stock battery on a normal day to day usage.
+1 here, I'm curious as well about this new battery!
Just ordered, should be here in 2 days time.
The cheap ass explosion logo around "1930mah" makes me doubt this thing's for real
Maybe this battery has a real 1600mAH unlike the stock battery w/c only has around 1300 or so a user posted before.
Maddmatt said:
The cheap ass explosion logo around "1930mah" makes me doubt this thing's for real
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Same! It's tempting though... but I think I'll wait it out and see how good it truly is.
Text on the battery is indeed japanese.
Tempting to get one myself... Please post if you guys get it and how it is.
Thanks.
Same here.if this is legit I'll bed buying 3 this week
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http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=32330&page=10
750mAh?
Thats crazy.
I think Japanese dont sell on Ebay anyways. They have their Own Auction Houses
750??
Nah mate, it just sounds not right. What picture is that?
hahaha, what a con. not surprising eh.
No matter what battery it is. It is a nokia one, but it still says 1930mAh and still same "brand"
Wich makes me think i've bought a lemon )
qavro said:
No matter what battery it is. It is a nokia one, but it still says 1930mAh and still same "brand"
Wich makes me think i've bought a lemon )
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Soniboy84 said:
750??
Nah mate, it just sounds not right. What picture is that?
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It means if this manufacturer is willing to stick a 750mAh battery in a 1930mAh printed sleeve and sell it that way, what's the chances the same manufacturer is actually selling a genuine 1930mAh battery for the I9000?
Answer, not a lot. It's just a generic print they use to cover all their batteries. Wouldn't put it in my phone.
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Digi-Tech/_i.html?_nkw=1930mAH&submit=Search&_sid=170948874
Yeah, it's a good old trick!
- "You said it's 1930mAh!"
- "Oh, it's not the capacity of the battery, it's our company's brand name!"

[Q] Anyone Tried This? - Replacement Battery

Hey Guys
I'm having some quite bad battery life with my DHD and I was looking into getting a bigger capacity battery.
I found this:
http://www.htcrepairparts.com/standard-battery-for-htc-desire-hd1600mah-p-3411.html?language=en
It is 1600 mAh and on paper looks promising and before I just wanted to check has anyone ordered this and had successful results with this battery and the seller or is it just a fail?
Thanks
Patrick
Found one while browsing around for a replacement for my DHD too.
Can't post links yet, but if you go to a site called evertop ending in a .co.uk and search for 35H00141-02M, you will find one with 1550mAH rating.
There are a few of these replacement ones claiming higher capacity, but one has to be cautious about these things mate.
Would love to find a genuinely reliable replacement one, although I must admit, if you haven't tried it already, there is a thread around which has a tip to charge the DHD in a certain way - seems to have worked for me upto certain extent - have managed to go over 24h without the need to charge with moderate use.
Hi I am a new member here. I also read somewhere about a mugen battery. haven't been able to order yet. I recently bought an external 5000mAh battery (USB charging) I can charge my DHD approximately 4 times before recharging the external battery.
just wanted to share an alternative to extended batteries that need to replace your battery cover.
a 5000mAh? holy ****...
EXTERNAL
the ones, which you connect to your usb port and charge the phone's battery
i wouldn't buy another internal one than the original.
battery's can be really dangerous..no chance to buy one from china or so..just my 2 cents.
DN41
These are the same as ones you can get from ebay.
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DN41 said:
EXTERNAL
the ones, which you connect to your usb port and charge the phone's battery
i wouldn't buy another internal one than the original.
battery's can be really dangerous..no chance to buy one from china or so..just my 2 cents.
DN41
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lol. Nowadays everything seems to be made in china.
though seriously i share ur sentiments.
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My Primo powerpack just arrived last night...and I say I am impressed....already charged 2 Iphones and charge my DHD on it and its still got more juice in it.
Primo Power Pack
Mr-Maniac said:
Found one while browsing around for a replacement for my DHD too.
Can't post links yet, but if you go to a site called evertop ending in a .co.uk and search for 35H00141-02M, you will find one with 1550mAH rating.
There are a few of these replacement ones claiming higher capacity, but one has to be cautious about these things mate.
Would love to find a genuinely reliable replacement one, although I must admit, if you haven't tried it already, there is a thread around which has a tip to charge the DHD in a certain way - seems to have worked for me upto certain extent - have managed to go over 24h without the need to charge with moderate use.
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Take extra precaution to this company. They will send you counterfeit goods no matter what if they think you are incapable of fighting back (say, living too far away).
My friend has been scammed once, and he went through all the complain channel in UK online in vain. It seems that UK's Government has no intention to stop online scammers that are active in their own countries. That was really an awkward discovery.
So be very careful.
I still don't get why people consider battery life as extremely important for phones that have easy to remove batteries...
They arent too expensive, ($3 on ebay for a 1600 mah fake, $15 for a genuine 1230) and its not exactly that hard to keep a few on you.
External batteries are also another option, but they usually use more space than internal ones (and they also require a cable).
314 said:
I still don't get why people consider battery life as extremely important for phones that have easy to remove batteries...
They arent too expensive, ($3 on ebay for a 1600 mah fake, $15 for a genuine 1230) and its not exactly that hard to keep a few on you.
External batteries are also another option, but they usually use more space than internal ones (and they also require a cable).
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but external can hold ALOT more AND plug into various devices
I would definitely recommend an external powerpack. I have a New Trent 5500mah pack, and it indeed gives 2-3 recharges, in a form factor slightly smaller than the DHD.
The only battery which is not fake, is the Mugen, coming in at 1500mah. It's not a huge improvement, but many say it's the difference between running out of juice mid-evening, and making it through to the night and the power cord.
Search for Mugen in this forum, all the details are there.
Or look for NewTrent on Amazon for example. The price varies (and they have bigger models too).
Avoid ALL OTHER "high capacity" batteries
314 said:
I still don't get why people consider battery life as extremely important for phones that have easy to remove batteries...
They arent too expensive, ($3 on ebay for a 1600 mah fake, $15 for a genuine 1230) and its not exactly that hard to keep a few on you.
External batteries are also another option, but they usually use more space than internal ones (and they also require a cable).
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You are right, batteries aren't expensive nowaday.
I recommend using genuine where possible. Fake/replacement/counterfeit batteries return bogus charging level to the devices, and that would result in pre-mature shutdown which would damage mobile devices.
九千. said:
Take extra precaution to this company. They will send you counterfeit goods no matter what if they think you are incapable of fighting back (say, living too far away).
My friend has been scammed once, and he went through all the complain channel in UK online in vain. It seems that UK's Government has no intention to stop online scammers that are active in their own countries. That was really an awkward discovery.
So be very careful.
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evertop co uk is a well-known scammer. You should have looked up uk's ripoff list (forgot the full name of this website, you could search) and you can find it listed top 10 or something.
UK is hoarded with scammers like that, because their government just don't give a dime of what their people do on the internet.
patrickrigby said:
Hey Guys
I'm having some quite bad battery life with my DHD and I was looking into getting a bigger capacity battery.
I found this:
http://www.htcrepairparts.com/standard-battery-for-htc-desire-hd1600mah-p-3411.html?language=en
It is 1600 mAh and on paper looks promising and before I just wanted to check has anyone ordered this and had successful results with this battery and the seller or is it just a fail?
Thanks
Patrick
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I bought two of these on eBay. It's not better than the original (but not worst either).
Worth the money I paid (few $).
I recently got 1, not tried it out yet
zadok1873 said:
I recently got 1, not tried it out yet
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Let us know how it goes soon will ya.
Gold battery for DHD
Hi Guys,
I cannot put links yet, but search for "2430MAH HIGH CAPACITY BAS470 GOLD BATTERY FOR DESIRE HD" on Ebay. Got it yesterday, so far so good, looks like it lasts more than the stock one...
It says "Made in Japan" but im not sure about this
Did anyone else tried this one?
rs1982 said:
Hi Guys,
I cannot put links yet, but search for "2430MAH HIGH CAPACITY BAS470 GOLD BATTERY FOR DESIRE HD" on Ebay. Got it yesterday, so far so good, looks like it lasts more than the stock one...
It says "Made in Japan" but im not sure about this
Did anyone else tried this one?
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2430MAH? i don't think it is even possible to fit that much cell into the DHD battery size, i'm currently on the mugen 1500MAH battery, it is slightly better then the stock battery, would recommend that
九千. said:
You are right, batteries aren't expensive nowaday.
I recommend using genuine where possible. Fake/replacement/counterfeit batteries return bogus charging level to the devices, and that would result in pre-mature shutdown which would damage mobile devices.
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- Ive been a little worried about this as I have a cheap one from China which came in an accessory pack, which by the way sucked. everything has just fallen apart. but the battery, which I rely on heavily as a backup, seems to have a better life than the original odly enough, dunno what's up with that. afraid it may leak or output higher charges and fry my phone?

<Battery> Any one tried it?

I found this on ebay..
http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/NEW-GOLD-243...neBatteries&hash=item4aa9178adc#ht_3268wt_772
any one tried it already ? or is there any review? i cant seem to find any on the web!
btw, its make in Japan.
The look of the battery is really nice.
But 2430
Can't say I've tried it but it looks like crap to me, same as most other batteries on eBay. Who cares if their battery is gold or not?
AWBob said:
Can't say I've tried it but it looks like crap to me, same as most other batteries on eBay. Who cares if their battery is gold or not?
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They will try anything to make them seem a bit more plausible
MrGarak said:
They will try anything to make them seem a bit more plausible
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Yup, looks way better than the ones in the accessories section
This seems totally fake.
Googling will get you a few discussions on this battery, but the following image should confirm all suspicions.
http://img109.imageshack.us/i/20100708029.jpg/
For this one (1930mAh) it is only 750mAh....
well, i think this is fake and i don't think this is made in Japan, but in mainland china
I'm about 400% sure it is a piece of ****. Unless they are selling some amazing new high density cell technology for only ten quid. If so we need to thank them for not seeking to profit from their industry changing discovery.
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its not a gold like metal battery, lol. its just a normal battery wrap in gold sticker.
mmmmm, gold stickers also increase the CPU speed. lol
that really funny.....
I never tried, but look at the cell type Li-Ion Polymer IMHO it's somehow realistic. Maybe not as their ads 2430mAh but somewhere between 1230 and that value. Then 20 bucks is worth to try, any one brave enough to try and report?
You can check the seller's recent feedback and see if anyone bought any from them.
I mean there shouldn't be any harm, its just a battery. Its not like buying an adapter charger, in case of wrong voltage which will fry ur phone.
now, I'm no expert (and there is no end of websites run by battery experts), but there is a limitation as to how many mah can fit into a certain space.
That is, the OEM battery size gives a certain output, and you can probably get a bit more in the same form factor.
But not double Simply don't believe the bull**** out there. Whether it's chinese, japanese, gold or silver.
Older teminal designs allowed manufacturers to market physically bigger batteries with a custom cover, of course that is not an option here.
I am quite happy as long as I can get a day out of the phone, charging overnight.
If you want a 11,000 mah battery, look here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Largest-Capacity-In-The-World+1-AMP-Faster-Charging/dp/B004CHMP50/
There you go, your phone will run forever with that baby hooked up to it.
I bought a 5000 mah pack for about 2/3 the price, mainly since I want to be using the gps for tracking (and being tracked) purposes while out in the country on my mountain bike. Works very well, it's not heavy, it's a bit like having another small phone with you
Its quite likely that most manufacturing overstate the specification, which is a common thing really, not just battery, broadband, harddrive, etc. They always claim it has more then what it actually has.
But on the other hand, I wouldn't go so far calling it a fake, since japs does always paint something gold or silver to suggest higher quality stuff. Because when I was a kid living in asia, I buy a lot of radio control cars from japan and their expensive parts like battery, motors, always has something gold or silver attach to it
Has anyone ever got a decent battery from eBay?
I have been looking and I see a lot of 1500 mah ... but then if you read the fine print they say 1500 mah (+/- 200 mah) which admits that it is just another 1300 mah knock off. How can a legitimate battery be + or - 200 mah...
To bad the battery's coming from Japan are crap.
You want battery's from Hongkong, those are way better.
Anyway i bought a replacement/2nd battery wich had 1600mAh.
But after 2 weeks it wasnt as good as the stock battery wich let me use my phone all day and the 1600mAh one didnt.
HanZie82 said:
To bad the battery's coming from Japan are crap.
You want battery's from Hongkong, those are way better.
Anyway i bought a replacement/2nd battery wich had 1600mAh.
But after 2 weeks it wasnt as good as the stock battery wich let me use my phone all day and the 1600mAh one didnt.
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Precisely. tbh, I understand we'd all like to believe there are miracle solutions to this, but equally we should understand that this miracle is not going to come from an ebay seller
However few dollars a cheap battery costs you, it ain't much use if it's going to fail after a few hours. And the hassle linked with keeping replacement batteries charged is not worth it either. I had a spare OEM battery for my previous phone, and I got fed up of keeping it ready.
3 solutions:
1) strategies to minimise power consumption (loads of suggestions in this sub-forum)
2) keep it topped up during the day if you're at home/office
3) get an external power pack as I mentioned above, 5000mah variants are (were) GBP23 on Amazon.

2430 mAh battery

what do you guys make of this -
would it be worth a shot?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-GOLD-2430...359?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4aa8ba24ff
Don´t forget that a bigger battery means a bigger cover for the phone...and it ends looking like a camel
According to description its the same size as the original battery so u wouldnt need an extended cover
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There is absolutely no way to physically increase the capacity that far without increasing the size at all. I would never buy from any company that had this as a standard disclaimer:
Posting negative feedback before even giving us opportunity to repair or replace the item will result in void warranty.
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shady mo-fo's if you ask me. I mean, of course they have very good feedback, if you risk losing your money by giving them bad feedback.
lol, really? Read the epically huge battery testing thread. Batteries like these are always scams.
Really?
Not to be a hater, but one look at the battery and you should know that it is a fake, not to mention the fact that it is being sold on EBAY (aka SCAMMERS' PARADISE).
Did you looked at his feedback? Or you are a friend of him?
Do not buy it. Thoose are less mah batterys with paper glued so it seems to have bigger mah...
It happened to me..
(sorry my english)
yeah, figured that it was too good to be true
just thought id put it out there to see what others thought
anyway - back to the real world for a while
Holy crap that's expensive. I bought an el-cheapo battery off eBay. It was like $10. It's good for backup but you shouldn't spend that much money on this
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I have bought exactly same battery from same seller and installed Battery Monitor to check its mAH it says 1200mAH dont buy it it is totally fake.Reported to eBay too.
Zool said:
I have bought exactly same battery from same seller and installed Battery Monitor to check its mAH it says 1200mAH dont buy it it is totally fake.Reported to eBay too.
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Just installed that app on my Vibrant and it also says 1200 mah. Don't believe it.
The battery capacity (mah) can only be measured by a complete charge/discharge cycle under calibrated and measured conditions. An app snapshot like this can't accurately report total battery capacity. The app may be able to do such a measurement, haven't played with it enough yet, but there's no way for it to do it immediately.
is there any tool (i mean not an app) to check the battery capacity? the accurate one?
I have 2 of them, they're decent batteries. I'm actually looking top sell one of them for 22$ shipped
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how is it compared to stock
REF: Gold Battery 2430mAh on eBay...
Total fake and ripoff!! ...so dont be wasting your money...
Here, read "all about it" from my experience in another parallel forae - "conclusion" after testing, on post #21: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305779
Seems like fake. Place be careful
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Seems like fake. Place be careful
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i agree +1....

Legit extended battery?

hmm i came across this wonder if legit http://www.ebay.com/itm/4300mAh-780..._Phone_PDA_Batteries&var=&hash=item2ed08a5e96
Feedback's pretty good on the seller. Why not buy a set and post the results?
some company called MPJ is also selling a 4300mah one which supposedly fits with the original back cover so it might be legit.
http://www.mpjbattery.com/mpj-4300m...900-g900m-g900a-g900t-g900v-g900r4-g900p.html
How long these will last and whether they do actually give 4300mah I have no idea, its a huge jump from 2800 in the same size so you have to question exactly how they can do that when samsung doesnt. Lets face it if samsung could produce 4300 in that exact same size and quality, even if it was a slightly higher cost, they would probably do it because the phone would destroy everything else for battery life with 4300mah as stock......and this makes me very skeptical.
Ideally what we want is someone to get some of the various higher capacity batteries from various manufacturers and do a few proper tests to at least see for sure how much longer they last when in use. We still have no idea how many charge cycles you will get with it still being that high but if it lasts for a year and really does give 50% extra capacity for that year then its probably a good buy. The danger even if it gives a decent boost for a few weeks during the initial tests is that it then starts wearing off and ends up worse than a stock battery after a month or 2. There HAS to be some catch somewhere or samsung would surely make these themselves and flog them at a premium for users that want extra power.
The key for me is being able to use the original cover as I dont want extra bulk.
We have to wait and see I guess.
anyone wanna give this a try?
http://www.amazon.com/4300mAh-Capac...=1397666589&sr=1-4&keywords=galaxy+s5+battery
initial_k said:
anyone wanna give this a try?
http://www.amazon.com/4300mAh-Capac...=1397666589&sr=1-4&keywords=galaxy+s5+battery
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HMMMMMM "Best replacement for the original battery with comparable standby and talk time" say what?!? isnt the point of an extra 1500mah that it lasts a LOT LONGER, not "comparable". They also list the wrong model number, since when is it i9600. Personally wouldnt touch that with a barge pole. Also seems far too cheap to be even close to decent.
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HMMMMMM "Best replacement for the original battery with comparable standby and talk time" say what?!? isnt the point of an extra 1500mah that it lasts a LOT LONGER, not "comparable". They also list the wrong model number, since when is it i9600. Personally wouldnt touch that with a barge pole. Also seems far too cheap to be even close to decent.
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Also no NFC. At $6, it might be worth it as a spare.. but I agree their marketing is sub-par... of course it comes from China so that's to be expected... You'll see that Amazon claims 17-28 business days shipping, so it's definitely coming from either China or Hong Kong...
Jacob2kD said:
hmm i came across this wonder if legit http://www.ebay.com/itm/4300mAh-780..._Phone_PDA_Batteries&var=&hash=item2ed08a5e96
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okay fine.. May i ask you here case and battery together sell here ?

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