Before posting this thread, I followed all of the suggested threads on the same topic. Keep coming back to the same thing.
How can I get back to default....(with root) like it was right out of the box. In short...if I sold this device, I can I be sure all my data is gone gone gone?
If I wipe wipe wipe and wipe. Then factory reset....certain settings are ALWAYS available....my wallpaper and my WiFi settings. No matter what, they always come back. That leads me to wonder if anything else is stored....
How can I be sure...?
Are you running a different Tom then stock? If so, wipe everything and then reload the stock Tom. Then use one click to unroot.
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aowendoff said:
Are you running a different Tom then stock? If so, wipe everything and then reload the stock Tom. Then use one click to unroot.
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nope...not the answer. I've done that. My wallpaper and wifi, are immediately restored. Oh, and my bookmarks too. They are stored somewhere.
I've unmounted the phone memory and formated it. I've formated my SD card. I've loaded other ROMs to include the Nandroid backup that Gunman loaded. But, immediately upon logging in...My wallpaper is restored, move to Wifi and touch wifi, it detects and load my password protected settings, and my bookmarks are all there.
Somewhere these things are stored....Not being familiar with Android...I have no clue...
After you wipe your data and restart your phone, it shows the little green android, the one you have to press to setup your phone, right? After you press that android, during the initial setup are you entering your Google account info (username and password)? Android backs up certain info/settings, including wifi passwords, if you don't de-select that option and when you sign in to your Google account during that initial setup it will restore it automatically.
If that's the case just skip the initial setup and don't enter your account info and it shouldnt restore that info automatically.
I think some of that info is stored in your Google account. Dont log in with the initial setup, you'll see nothing is restored.
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Yea its definitely in your Google account almost positive. Do what phburks said and don't sign in initially
sarni84 said:
Yea its definitely in your Google account almost positive. Do what phburks said and don't sign in initially
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And that's what I thought. So I tried that 'other' phone, the one from HTC. No sim, force me to wifi on login. So I get to setup..the little green Andy Rubin dude, get the prompt for wifi, it forces me to select which AP, which is new. But, when I select the AP, it populates with my data and password. So I erased any thing I could erase, did factory reset to include erase storage, and repeated. Same thing happened. This should eliminate it being in the Google account because I've not entered that yet.
I've done this with both the g2x and the grass is greener phone. One is rooted, one is not. I was thinking something may be stored in recovery...I could buy that. Restoring to stock should fix that. But using the 'this is greatest' phone, it has a stock recovery.
Being a noob to the inner workings of android, and having believed the story about fake flash, I wanted to ask you guys. The only other explanation is, the 60's have caught up with me
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And that's what I thought. So I tried that 'other' phone, the one from HTC. No sim, force me to wifi on login. So I get to setup..the little green Andy Rubin dude, get the prompt for wifi, it forces me to select which AP, which is new. But, when I select the AP, it populates with my data and password. So I erased any thing I could erase, did factory reset to include erase storage, and repeated. Same thing happened. This should eliminate it being in the Google account because I've not entered that yet.
I've done this with both the g2x and the grass is greener phone. One is rooted, one is not. I was thinking something may be stored in recovery...I could buy that. Restoring to stock should fix that. But using the 'this is greatest' phone, it has a stock recovery.
Being a noob to the inner workings of android, and having believed the story about fake flash, I wanted to ask you guys. The only other explanation is, the 60's have caught up with me
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Its all backed up on Google's servers. So during initial setup if you sign in with your Google username and password it restores the settings from their servers. Just skip the part of the setup where it asks you to sign in to a Google account.
How does it get my wifi settings, if I have to log to wifi, before Google.
I understand the login stuff, that's clear. But something is being retained, somewhere else too. Don't ya think that's scary?
I'm going to factory reset this device. Going to wipe phone memory, then boot to recovery, wipe all again, then install fauxs rom. I will skip the Google login. I will turn on wifi. If it logs.in from saved data, that means its on the device.
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How does it get my wifi settings, if I have to log to wifi, before Google.
I understand the login stuff, that's clear. But something is being retained, somewhere else too. Don't ya think that's scary?
I'm going to factory reset this device. Going to wipe phone memory, then boot to recovery, wipe all again, then install fauxs rom. I will skip the Google login. I will turn on wifi. If it logs.in from saved data, that means its on the device.
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Its not scary. Its restoring settings you opted to have Google backup to their servers.
If I'm not mistaken during initial setup, the first piece of information you are asked to input is your Google account info. Once you enter that it restores your wifi settings, among other things. If you're connected to a mobile network (3G/4G/edge) it downloads it over that and then connects to your wifi network.
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Its not scary. Its restoring settings you opted to have Google backup to their servers.
If I'm not mistaken during initial setup, the first piece of information you are asked to input is your Google account info. Once you enter that it restores your wifi settings, among other things. If you're connected to a mobile network (3G/4G/edge) it downloads it over that and then connects to your wifi network.
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true...all that I understand. but...what if you skip teh login ?? Thats what I was getting at.
So, I took all of your information, and tried. Then, to be sure, I did it again. I was up until 2am, checking this out. What I learned was.....I have n o idea what I was thinking. I obviously mixed a few different steps from different activities. Some of the steps I mention above are not part of factory reset, but rather part rom flash...some arre parts of restore.
In conclusion,,, it wasn't android, but flaash backs from the 60's.
So, I took all of your information, and tried. Then, to be sure, I did it again. I was up until 2am, checking this out. What I learned was.....I have n o idea what I was thinking. I obviously mixed a few different steps from different activities. Some of the steps I mention above are not part of factory reset, but rather part rom flash...some arre parts of restore.
In conclusion,,, it wasn't android, but flaash backs from the 60's.
Note to self, but drugs are bad.
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So, I took all of your information, and tried. Then, to be sure, I did it again. I was up until 2am, checking this out. What I learned was.....I have n o idea what I was thinking. I obviously mixed a few different steps from different activities. Some of the steps I mention above are not part of factory reset, but rather part rom flash...some arre parts of restore.
In conclusion,,, it wasn't android, but flaash backs from the 60's.
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Lol ... So does that mean you figured out what was going on?
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Lol ... So does that mean you figured out what was going on?
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Yes it does. Its really rude of Google to make things so convenient. They should at the very least made it a little harder here. Imagine....logging in and getting all your saved settings, apps, etc, BY DEVICE. What were they thinking .....
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Strange thing happened to me today at work, when I took my phone out to check the time I noticed the SD card icon in status bar. My phone's data was being wiped without me knowing it. So I boot into recovery trying to restore from NANO and nothing was on my phone (I couldn't restore from backup). Afterward I wiped everything and allowed my phone to boot up and do a normal setup, but I noticed my keyboard was in Russian. So I freaked out and shut my phone down and re-download collab and the radio for my phone and left wondering what the F*** happened. Did my phone get hacked into? Did I play packet pool with my phone and some how wipe my phone? Is it because I have a Seek Droid account? I don't know!
So I was wondering do anyone know what could have possibly caused my phone to wipe without my knowledge?
Wow....creepy???? Name the last 10 apk's you installed
2.15 radio
2.2miui stock via cwm
privacy blocker, Xda premium, and go contacts are the most recent apps I downloaded. Other than that I haven't been downloading new applications the rest just update. I have a feeling it deals with privacy blocker, so I have that uninstalled for now.
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Put in a support ticket at help.seekdroid.com with your username and I can make sure noone stole your seekdroid account and did it.
I probably got too much of myself out there and I need to be careful what I install. I do remember installing miui the Chinese version then finally the english translation but I am not sure that really play into it.
Question, on my phone and my friends phone (both 4g slides) we have noticed that some things remain after doing a factory wipe/reset (both from clockwork and the bootloader).
His font changes seem static and don't get reset, and my Wireless settings stay static (my access points and keys are ALL still there after a reset).
My wireless keys stayed through a full wipe and rom flash too.
Has anyone else noticed odd things like this?
Format system and data partitions manually through CWM. Factory reset doesn't usually get them.
No, something else isn't getting cleared.
I did a complete wipe then manual format through CWM, then flashed the new .05 rom and it still connects to my secured access points.
Could it be possible that your google account is syncing it back onto the phone?
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Could it be possible that your google account is syncing it back onto the phone?
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No, Google account does not sync that information. Sounds like a bad wipe. Tried flashing superwipe?
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Hi. when you fill in for the first time the google account the sync of wireless etc is prechecked... but you can opt out.
Yes, Google DOES sync wireless info and passwords!
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Yes, Google DOES sync wireless info and passwords!
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That's bull crap. Check your accounts and sync. No where does it day wifi data. Or anything along those lines. I've been flashing and wiping for a year, NEVER once does it auto connect.
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Yeah, everytime i've factory reseted, I've had to re-do my wifi connections.
So for a few weeks now, my phone has been unable to remember the ringtone I set for either SMS or phone calls. every time I set it it works, but as soon as I reboot the phone or unmount the sd card then remount, it forgets both tones and picks one of the songs on my sd card as the new tone.
I first noticed it after I was having some problems with btunes (my preferred music app) crashing, so I decided to clear the cache and data in Media Storage from the "Manage applications" menu. I learned to do this from the developer of another music app I had problems with, and thought it was worth a try.
ever since then, i've had the problem. I don't know why. To be fair, I MIGHT have had the problem before that, since I had only had the phone for 2 weeks at that point and didn't pay attention to it due to finals, so I wasn't doing much rebooting, and anyway the ringer volume was probably off the whole time. My memory is fuzzy about the ringtones working before that point. It was definitely happening before I rooted though, so I know that's not the problem.
anyway, help? on a side note, it always seems to automatically pick the same 2 songs for the 2 replacement ringers once I reboot. I'm not sure why, especially since they're not in the media/audio folder anywhere, and don't show up as potential ringtones when you look in any "pick ringtone" menu.
If you are rooted I would say reboot into recovery and clear dalvik-cache.
Sounds like that's where a setting is hiding.
I had this problem too when I was on Bulletproof 1.0, then when I switched to 1.1 it stopped. I don't think it was necessarily rom related, but maybe something to do with the wiping when changing roms.
I've had my (rooted stock ROM) MT4GS forget its notification settings a couple times - for me they usually stay set for a while, but after some time and/or reboots will come back wrong (not always the same wrong either- a few times it has picked notifications from my music folder, other times from the default sounds).
The problem seemed to start after I put another Android device (CM partition on my Touchpad) on my Google account, so I've been operating under the assumption that it is some kind of bug with settings synchronization. Unfortunately, it isn't very repeatable so I've never pinned the behavior down exactly.
I don't know if the issues are related, but gathering information on similar problems will hopefully let someone zero in on the issue.
the settings sync issue is worth checking, especially since I still have my Transform Ultra that I sometimes have turned on at home on wifi. I checked it, and the ringers were set on something else, So I matched them to the MT4GS and we'll see what happens.
I'm not sure that's the culprit, though, since this only happens when I restart the phone or re-mount the card. seems like settings sync wouldn't be an issue there, though I may be wrong.
I have the same issue with MT4GS and mines is certainly not rooted yet. The phone is only a couple weeks old. But its annoying. Sometimes I don't even have to reboot, sometimes it randomly just happens. IDK what to think of it.
I always shut off settings sync during setup and this used to happen to me.
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I always shut off settings sync during setup and this used to happen to me.
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You mena the initial setup of the phone? and how did you stop it?
Yeah its the google "backup my device" crap malfunctioning. Its dumb because what do u want it to backup? Texts, logs... What does it backup? Apps and bullcrap. If u want to start over, y can't I install apps individually? Or just give me the lists of crap ur gonna reinstall on my phone and let me select what I want....
Anyways, turn it off, reboot, sync, before nandroid/rom flashing and then don't use it on fresh install.
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You mena the initial setup of the phone? and how did you stop it?
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See Etrick's post right under yours.
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ok, so what you're saying is, google's sync system is flawed so it periodically screws up the ringer settings on my phone, by attempting to "correct" them to the server information? why doesn't it just upload the knew info of the correct ringtone when I deliberately change it?
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ok, so what you're saying is, google's sync system is flawed so it periodically screws up the ringer settings on my phone, by attempting to "correct" them to the server information? why doesn't it just upload the knew info of the correct ringtone when I deliberately change it?
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That's what she said... PRECISELY what I don't understand. It seems as though everythings good, you've set your phone up after a fresh install, and everytime you make changes it syncs and instead of uploading the new stuff, it downloads the old. It may be something we are doing wrong by hacking our phones and some setting somewhere is missing or a simple kernel command is confusing it or who knows... Maybe its google's fault... All I know is, its annoying. It should get rid of your issue.
On a side note, there may be some settings for this hidden in some settings you can only find via pc. Like buried in google voice or plus or chrome or some now defunct google product you can no longer log into... Perhaps some digging there. I've found little to no documentation on the phone end...
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hmmm, well it can't be hacking, because this was happening before I had the phone hacked. also, oddly enough, I also have a different off line phone as a spare that's on the same android version, 2.3.4, yet does not have this problem. of course, that one's stock Android, not infected with Sense.....
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hmmm, well it can't be hacking, because this was happening before I had the phone hacked. also, oddly enough, I also have a different off line phone as a spare that's on the same android version, 2.3.4, yet does not have this problem. of course, that one's stock Android, not infected with Sense.....
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Well... If it happened prior to hacking, then it's not google backup. So go with other possibilities... Phone is hosed... Sd card hosed... (Have u tried selecting various tones on card or in your system media folder within your phone?)... Or is that other phone ever on? Could be going back to that sync issue. Turn it on and then see if its connecting to wifi and syncing. Which ringtone r u stuck on?
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My phone started doing this after I swapped SD cards with a larger one. I just had to go in, change it to something else, then change it back. Been working fine since.
So i recently had to change my Google account password and upon doing so, obviously the account was removed or had to be signed into again on my phone. Long story short, after doing a reset and such, my Charge tells me I have the wrong password again and again. I can log in everywhere else except my phone. Any ideas as to why this would be?
My guess is that ur old password is still saved in the phones mem, maybe even the sd card. Have u wiped data/factory reset yet? If u have, then maybe u need to odin back to stock.
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Funny thing is, it's completely stock. This is a replacement phone. I did do a wipe/factory reset though.
Have you tried logging in through the browser on the phone rather than the app screen?
Are you using a keyboard like SwiftkeyX, which has the nasty habit of appending a space at the end of the text string?
No downloaded keyboards, nothing. I am unable to even add my google account to my phone at this moment.
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No downloaded keyboards, nothing. I am unable to even add my google account to my phone at this moment.
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Well, what I would do is go here: http://www.google.com/intl/en/contact/ ....
There look for support for your Google account, and if nothing than you need to contact them ...
I'm so mad that i've got flames shooting out my ears. Why? A few reasons. First, Snapchat doesn't let you log in on a rooted phone so I wanted to go back to stock for 5 minutes to log in then root again. Sounds simple, right?
I was already on 7.0, it was installed from an OTA update a couple weeks ago when I found out it was being pushed. I rolled from rooted stock MM to unrooted stock MM via ODIN. Downloaded and installed the OTA without a hitch. Forgot to log into snapchat on that day, instead I jumped straight to rooting. Tether is a necessity in my business.
Fast forward to last night. I wanted to roll from 7.0 rooted back to 7.0 stock, log into snapchat, then reroot. Couldn't find the simple tar.md5 of 7.0 that you drop into the AP slot in ODIN. I found a 7.0 that used all 4 slots in ODIN but I didn't like that it was different than what I was used to, so I tried to roll back to 6.0.1 using ODIN. It flashed fine but when it booted, the screen resolution was set to such a large dimension that the sprint splash screen, which normally only consumed the middle 1/3rd of the screen, was taking up the whole screen and bleeding off the edge. I tried a few times to get it to run but all the system apps would just repeatedly force close so that flash was a dud. Art this point i'm a but annoyed because a simple flash, boot, log in, flash, boot, done is turning into a longer process.
So, last resort (in my mind) I decided to go through with flashing that 7.0 that I'd found. I read through the thread, didn't see any current issues to stop me. I downloaded it, which took freaking forever because apparently the site hosting it throttles downloads to 12mbps. Finally got it downloaded, check md5, unzip, throw the 4 parts into the slots in ODIN, and flash. EVerything was successful.
Reboot into system, let it do its thing, log into snapchat, then throw her back into download mode and flash recovery then finish up and go to bed. Seems easy enough. Riiiight??
I unplug the phone, reboot it. Samsung splash screen appears, then an odd screen. A teal screen. With the word Erasing... at the bottom left. "Hmm, strange" I thought. I set the phone down and waited.
A few minutes later I start hearing a voice saying something. I realize its my phone. Behaving oddly. As if I just bought it and turned it on for the first time. I look at the screen in absolute horror.
The damn flash I's just performed deleted every freaking thing on my phone. all apps. all app data. all files. all contacta. all texts. everything. GONE. WTF.
Nowhere in that stupid thread did it say it wiped the phone. Nowhere, not anywhere, ever, did I see that this damn flash would've wiped my phone. Now I am livid. All this just so I can log into some stupid app, because my wife wanted me to use it with her. Everything. Gone.
I set up my account details, logged into my samsung account, did all the restore options, then went to bed because it was taking an awfully long time to restore, so I figured I had a fighting chance.
Woke up this morning to the phone still stuck trying to restore. It had made no progress since last night. So I decided to reboot it. It refused to finish the restore process, so I did a factory reset and tried again. Everything restored this time, all of my apps, contacts, texts, home screen etc. Except, none of the data that my apps had produced, restored. Game progress for a game I play: gone. 6 years of data produced by an app to log vehicle expenses: gone.
SO I tried a third time to restore everything to no avail.
It's almost time for me to leave home (I'm a truck driver, home on weekends), so I decide I will jsut re-root the phone since I am pretty sure I can try to restore the apps form my samsung account again, sometime this week. Re-rooting went fine, I made sure tether worked and then I hit the road.
Turned on my bluetooth headset so I could talk to my wife. The damn thing won't pair to my phone. No matter what I try, the headset won't pair.
I try again to hit the restore option from my samsung account. it wnts me to log in again because my session expired. I enter my password, it logs in then instantly expires my session, demanding login again. Endless cycle. I cannot log into my samsung account. I boot into recovery and clear cache and dalvik in hopes that it fixes it. Reboot, only to find the same problem exists. I do some research and find out that since I am rooted (as I've always been!) I can no longer log into my samsung account on my samsung phone that I OWN! WTF!! Since I rooted, my data is now being held hostage.
All of this crap, because everybody in the whole freaking universe is against people rooting their damn phones. This is ridiculous, pathetic, and unacceptable.
I now know that Google does not sync/backup any data, nor any app, other than its own. And I now know that Samsung backs up... god only knows what the hell they backup from your phone... then they'll hold your own data hostage form you if you choose to root your phone for whatever reason.
BIG THANKS to the person who uploaded the 4-part 7.0, called it an update, and did not disclaim that it is guaranteed to wipe everything you ever had, right off your phone.
All I wish I could recover is the 6 year old cumulative data from one app. But nope that's gone too. This has me the most distraught.
yes I know I should've made a nandroid. it wouldve avoided this whole thing. noob idiot dumbass mistake. I also know that I cnnot trust tht just because it doesn't specifically say itll wipe everything, doesnt mean it wont.
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FML.
Ded. Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhaha. Noob shizz....
FYI. Clear App Data on Samsung Account using Titanium Back Up and you'll be able to sign in to your Samsung account.
Still laughing.
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Ded. Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhaha. Noob shizz....
FYI. Clear App Data on Samsung Account using Titanium Back Up and you'll be able to sign in to your Samsung account.
Still laughing.
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Your tip worked. Thanks.
I can't wrap my head around the fact that 2 backup services, Google and Samsung, BOTH did not back up app data from the one app I needed the data from, the most. Samsung actually backed up 40 some apps, Google was only 14. Backups are current, less than 5 days old. This is 2017, and services are still shoddy at best. Back when I had my Hero, I looked upon these current years as potentially amazing ones... Other than the phone manufacturer technology, I'm not too thrilled... Oh well, it's whatever I guess.
I don't mean to laugh at you too much. But that rant was epic. I'd check all the back up settings on Google and Samsung. Make sure they're set to back up everything.
If this app and it's data were that important to you, you shouldn't have left it's fate to assumption. I'd suggest looking in to a service that will regularly back it up to a cloud. There are a million or so options.
I run apps that rely on years worth of data too, and they've been backing up data to an encrypted cloud account since forever.
Anyway man, I'm sorry that you lost important stuff. But it was entertaining at the same time. Good luck man!
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Oh I've been there. Learned the hard way to back the data to my computer or even dropbox if I'm not near a computer. You live and you learn my friend.
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