Is it a good idea to root before the OTA update July 6? - Thunderbolt General

I've heard rumors that Verizon will be sending over the air (OTA) updates around July 6 or July 7.
However, I am really getting sick of the bloatware and HTC Sense on the phone and would like to remove it as soon as possible.
Do rooted phones receive OTA updates? Can the OTA updates mess up the root?
Will it be more difficult to root after the OTA update?

Best thing to do is root now. The devs are extremely good at getting the newest ota in a rooted and flashable form when its released.
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/agree - if you are going to root, might as well root now before applying an OTA
The other thing is that these rumors (and that's all they are) will just keep you in limbo forever while you don't take any action because you are waiting on something that isn't even real. So screw the rumors and just do what you want today and make the most of it.

Best option is to root, it may be rumored to be out then, but VZW is really bad about getting out updates.

Root + custom roms/kernels out now are still better than what the OTA will offer.
Root now. Root now. Root. Now.

Is there a deodexed version of the stock Rom? I can't find it.

7/6 now? First it was 6/30, now 7/6? I'll be surprised if it happens.

Gnoop said:
7/6 now? First it was 6/30, now 7/6? I'll be surprised if it happens.
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7/7 is when our mobile hotspots are supposed to go inactive, and they were going to do this with an update, even if it is just an update to remove unlimited hotspot
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joshnichols189 said:
7/7 is when our mobile hotspots are supposed to go inactive, and they were going to do this with an update, even if it is just an update to remove unlimited hotspot
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Ah right. Brain not fully functional today. I was thinking of the supposed Gingerbread OTA rumors floating around.

drdiatom said:
I've heard rumors that Verizon will be sending over the air (OTA) updates around July 6 or July 7.
However, I am really getting sick of the bloatware and HTC Sense on the phone and would like to remove it as soon as possible.
Do rooted phones receive OTA updates? Can the OTA updates mess up the root?
Will it be more difficult to root after the OTA update?
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1. Don't listen to rumors about the next release date of official updates for our phone.
2. Rooted phones running custom ROMs don't receive OTA updates.
3. An unrooted phone that receives the next OTA update may or may not have to wait for a new rooting method.
Hope this helps

The reasons above were why I went ahead and rooted my phone. I wasn't having any problems with it but didn't want to get locked out of rooting in case the coming update f*ed our phones like their previous one did.

Root now. Been rooted since the day after I bought the device and absolutely no problems for me.

drdiatom said:
I've heard rumors that Verizon will be sending over the air (OTA) updates around July 6 or July 7.
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where did u read about ota on july 6/7??

Don't be surprised if Verizon delays the OTA and extends the free mobile hotspot yet again. I say root.
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only thing that sucks is that rootiong on the thunderbolt requires wiping your phone= setting up the damn phone again...

nrfitchett4 said:
only thing that sucks is that rootiong on the thunderbolt requires wiping your phone= setting up the damn phone again...
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Honestly, its the downgrade you have to do that sucks. I really don't want to start zombies vs plants all over.

Gnoop said:
Ah right. Brain not fully functional today. I was thinking of the supposed Gingerbread OTA rumors floating around.
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It is very possible that the Gingerbread does in fact silently bring the hotspot removal update as well. Seeing as how they were promised around the same time period this sounds to be true.
DRGilroy said:
2. Rooted phones running custom ROMs don't receive OTA updates.
3. An unrooted phone that receives the next OTA update may or may not have to wait for a new rooting method.
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2. Correction: Rooted phones still recieve OTA updates but under no circumstance should you accept the update; always cancel or you will not be able to boot your OS again.
3. According to the root method for the Thunderbolt posted by jcase, it doesn't matter what update you're on because during the root process you fully downgrade to a pre-stock RUU. A new unsupported update will not affect this and you will always be able to use that root method no matter what update you are on.
PhillyCheez said:
Honestly, its the downgrade you have to do that sucks. I really don't want to start zombies vs plants all over.
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During the root method by jcase that last part of the process is that you reupdate to a rooted stock ROM. And I also confirmed that you can even flash the rooted MR2 update as well (currently the latest update for the Thunderbolt of which I am personally using right now).

I highly suggest rooting the phone before the updates.
I personally love having purchased System App Remover from the Market. $2 for a fantastic App back-up and a seamless app remover.
I use it to remove bloatware or other silly apps that sometimes are put on ROMs or added tweaks.
Seriously couldn't be happier since I rooted my phone.

I would would always root before OTA, sometimes am update makes it hard to root again for a while.
Also I don't know how CWR works on this phone but on all my old devices it would automatically block OTA updates.

altimax98 said:
I would would always root before OTA, sometimes am update makes it hard to root again for a while.
Also I don't know how CWR works on this phone but on all my old devices it would automatically block OTA updates.
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It still does
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Thunderbolt Update Available

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/12/breaking-htc-thunderbolt-update-is-available-now/
I am rooted, so I am wondering if it is OK to apply this update or if it is going to break something on my phone?
I am rooted, so I am wondering if it is OK to apply this update or if it is going to break something on my phone?[/QUOTE]
Wondering same thing here. On BAMF 1.6.3 Remix here and I'm not showing an update available .....
ericmc said:
I am rooted, so I am wondering if it is OK to apply this update or if it is going to break something on my phone?
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Wondering same thing here. On BAMF 1.6.3 Remix here and I'm not showing an update available .....
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You wouldn't...most custom ROM's don't want Verizon OTA updates. This is basically a re-release of the updated radios (402w_1 and 605.7) so if you've already updated your radios that's basically what you'd be getting from VZW. The question is did they actually do anything to the radios or did they just hold them while they got their LTE/eHRPD issues sorted out (I tend to lean on the latter.)
If you wanna keep root, I wouldn't recommend updating. Let the devs release it.
RayKinStL said:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/12/breaking-htc-thunderbolt-update-is-available-now/
I am rooted, so I am wondering if it is OK to apply this update or if it is going to break something on my phone?
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I would just hold off and wait until the devs get ahold of it. It might not be any different from the leaked update we have already.
hackercity said:
If you wanna keep root, I wouldn't recommend updating. Let the devs release it.
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This. Wait for the devs to take a look. More than likely its the same stuff you already have.
Waiting to see what the devs say. Looks to be the same as the leak.
Mustang02 said:
Waiting to see what the devs say. Looks to be the same as the leak.
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Its much smaller than the leak.
psufan5 said:
Its much smaller than the leak.
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The leak (if we're talking about jcase's leak) included the ROM where the OTA update doesn't (at least it doesn't appear to at 35 MB.) It does appear to be larger than just the leaked radios themselves (25.37 MB) but they updated a few other things so that probably accounts for the additional 10 MB.
We really aren't going to know anything until the devs tackle the update.zip.
I was recommended by jcase that you either can't or should not apply this update if rooted. Don't quote me though. I can't remember exactly what he said.
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I was recommended by jcase that you either can't or should not apply this update if rooted. Don't quote me though. I can't remember exactly what he said.
Sent through the interwebs.
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Thats completely true.
Do you need root to access the cache folder? Where is it exactly. Can't find it while connected to my computer by USB, or by ES File Explorer.
Could this also incorporate removal of free wifi hotspots? Isn't that ending soon? When I bought my Thunderbolt the rep told me it'd be removed via a software update in May.
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xameius said:
Could this also incorporate removal of free wifi hotspots? Isn't that ending soon? When I bought my Thunderbolt the rep told me it'd be removed via a software update in May.
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Pretty sure that's only for new customers. Existing customers were grandfathered into the free wifi. I might be wrong though. I remember the rep told me something about it too when I got my TB in the mid of April.
dbisch said:
Pretty sure that's only for new customers. Existing customers were grandfathered into the free wifi. I might be wrong though. I remember the rep told me something about it too when I got my TB in the mid of April.
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Your rep was wrong. Once they figure out how much to charge, the free hotspot will be no more.
Saw on android police a couple of phones that were rooted attempted the update and it didn't go so well. One phone said update failed, another screwed their phone up. I'll wait.
When your rooted, your not supposed to update with OTA's. Wait for the devs to upload it...
OTA's are for squares.
ericmc said:
I am rooted, so I am wondering if it is OK to apply this update or if it is going to break something on my phone?
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Wondering same thing here. On BAMF 1.6.3 Remix here and I'm not showing an update available .....[/QUOTE]
Iif you're running a custom ROM, you'll most likely NOT get an update. The developer will incorporate the changes into the next ROM update.
lol i cant wait im downloading it now and will add root / busybox to it my self
this shouldn't remove the free hotspot verizon will not have to push a update to remove it they can turn it off on the back end just how the turn it on and off if you call them and add the tethering plan

To root or not to root!?

So... I used to be rooted until my old tbolts 4g data bit the dust and I had to get a replacement. I have my new tbolt in my hand as we speak but I'm faces with a dilema. Should I root or wait for stock ics Rom to he released and live with that. I've been waiting a long time for this update as I have had the tbolt for almost 2 years now. What is your guys' opinion on this. I know it would be nice to root and debloat the thing as my battery drains so quickly these days , but maybe with the promise of ics we will see improvements? Also how long before a custom Rom is released when the ota for ics hits our phones?
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I'm not sure what future updates have to do with unlocking and rooting your phone. It's such an easy procedure and it helps immensely when debloating and saving battery life.
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I'm not sure what future updates have to do with unlocking and rooting your phone. It's such an easy procedure and it helps immensely when debloating and saving battery life.
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Thanks for the response! I just know if I root I won't be able to install the ota update.... Am I wrong?
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OTA's are just patches to take you to the next level. RUU's are released at the same time (speaking specifically about ICS here). With S-Off you can do whatever you want as far as installing things. Honestly it's pretty pointless to not S-Off if it's available to your device.
ROOT NOW - and wait for ICS! Seriously, as soon as ICS comes out it will be rooted and posted here. Then you can flash that on top of what you have.
Will the ruu install radios and changes to hboot (if there are changes to hboot)?
RUU's are EVERYTHING. OTA's are just the parts that were updated from the last version. Usually OTA's end up causing little issues here and there. The RUU's do a full install on the phone.
I suppose nobody can knownif it will be possible to go back from rooted ics ruu to rooted gb or even if it will be possible to root s on phones once ics is installed?
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ROOT NOW - and wait for ICS! Seriously, as soon as ICS comes out it will be rooted and posted here. Then you can flash that on top of what you have.
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+1 The devs here would make a stock version that's an exact replica of it anyway.
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recDNA said:
I suppose nobody can knownif it will be possible to go back from rooted ics ruu to rooted gb or even if it will be possible to root s on phones once ics is installed?
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If you are S-Off you can go in any direction you want to. S-On could be a problem if they patch our S-Off exploit (which i strongly doubt, but a possibility nonetheless) This is why it's pointless to have a phone without S-Off if it's available.

[Q] stock rom

Hi, I really need some help cause i am new in this (i owned htc desire g7 bravo),
I have bought htc one x at&t mobile. Hopefully by the next week it would be here. I was thinking to root it so I can delete all at&t crap apps. After some search I found out that at&t models always get the updates with a big delay time. So I want to find a stock rom (clean from branded carrier apps). I forgot to mention I live in Greece.
Most important for me is:
1)Greek language and keyboard
2)upgrades “on air”
3)stable and fast (stock sounds perfect)
4)of course choosing north American type means I wand better battery life so it’s going without saying that battery life is important
Any suggestions? I look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 but no luck. Saying at&t on stock roms means there are at&t apps right?? Thanks a lot in advance!
ps.christos said:
Hi, I really need some help cause i am new in this (i owned htc desire g7 bravo),
I have bought htc one x at&t mobile. Hopefully by the next week it would be here. I was thinking to root it so I can delete all at&t crap apps. After some search I found out that at&t models always get the updates with a big delay time. So I want to find a stock rom (clean from branded carrier apps). I forgot to mention I live in Greece.
Most important for me is:
1)Greek language and keyboard
2)upgrades “on air”
3)stable and fast (stock sounds perfect)
4)of course choosing north American type means I wand better battery life so it’s going without saying that battery life is important
Any suggestions? I look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 but no luck. Saying at&t on stock roms means there are at&t apps right?? Thanks a lot in advance!
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A rooted stock rom is probably your best bet. Custom roms usually remove the OTA function for obvious reasons. Once rooted, the bloatware is easy to remove.
I think you have to load the Greek keyboard separately but I don't know. I think there is one rom with all the languages turned on but it's not stock.
iElvis said:
A rooted stock rom is probably your best bet. Custom roms usually remove the OTA function for obvious reasons. Once rooted, the bloatware is easy to remove.
I think you have to load the Greek keyboard separately but I don't know. I think there is one rom with all the languages turned on but it's not stock.
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So if i get it right i should look "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)"?? (not the "CLOSED" it is different)!
Anything on "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)" says telstra at&t and rogers does not suit me right?
Any other has ota updates and don't mess with bootloader or anything else??They are just rooted nad stock right?
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So if i get it right i should look "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)"?? (not the "CLOSED" it is different)!
Anything on "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)" says telstra at&t and rogers does not suit me right?
Any other has ota updates and don't mess with bootloader or anything else??They are just rooted nad stock right?
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The stock rooted roms should work on any One XL--they are usually debranded. But they are not all exactly the same--I would review the OP to be sure.
Only downside of stock rooted... You take the att ota, you break root access!!
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Only downside of stock rooted... You take the att ota, you break root access!!
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That's not good! Any way to avoid that? I just rooted 2 days ago!
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ToxicWaste said:
That's not good! Any way to avoid that?
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Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
iElvis said:
Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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Yes.
On any Android device if you are rooted, don't update by OTA.
Its really that simple. How many times does this need to be said?
At a minimum, you will lose root. At the worst, you will not be able to root again (depending on what was changed in the OTA) or get stuck in a bootloop (or otherwise not be able to boot).
iElvis said:
Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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ToxicWaste said:
I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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Definitely understandable bro. I recommend everyone to enjoy that honeymoon period of a new phone first, then customize the hell out of it. Nothing wrong with your doing, but like others have said don't take an update OTA if your stock. Just pop back in when you ready to really see what this phone is capable of
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I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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Even if you are on the stock ROM and rooted, you should not ever ever ever install an OTA, for the reasons I've stated in post 8 above.
If you want to install a new firmware version, they almost always get posted in Development in pre-rooted, but otherwise stock form, very soon after the OTA starts rolling out (sometimes even before the OTA, in case of a leak). Those are safe to install.
Thanks for the the explanations, guys.
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I've taken OTAs on my stock rooted Nexus 7 without any problems. But Nexus devices are a special case--I would never recommend trying it on anything else.
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I've taken OTAs on my stock rooted Nexus 7 without any problems. But Nexus devices are a special case--I would never recommend trying it on anything else.
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Sure, there are exceptions. Apps like OTA Rootkeeper sometimes work too (but don't think it ever has on the One X) to keep root after an OTA.
I was giving the "short story" rule for n00bs to go by. The "long story" is not to accept an OTA unless you have researched in advance that it will work (such as from other users here); or you intend to be the guinea pig and live the with the consequences, whatever they may be.
Too many folks here jumped on the 2.20 OTA when it first rolled out, then came on here crying "Ohhh sh1t I lost root, and its not rootable".
"Don't ever OTA on a rooted device" is a good rule to live by, unless you reearch on here and learn otherwise. On the huge majority of devices, the OTA will not even install on a rooted device, anyway. And rooted versions of the latest firmwares always get posted here. So there is really no reason to gamble and take the OTA.
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Even if you are on the stock ROM and rooted, you should not ever ever ever install an OTA, for the reasons I've stated in post 8 above.
If you want to install a new firmware version, they almost always get posted in Development in pre-rooted, but otherwise stock form, very soon after the OTA starts rolling out (sometimes even before the OTA, in case of a leak). Those are safe to install.
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I don't quite understand, I mean the 2.20 firmware is rootable now, is this still unrootable even there's a way to root it?
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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I don't quite understand, I mean the 2.20 firmware is rootable now, is this still unrootable even there's a way to root it?
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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What happened was that people who took the OTA lost root, and it was months before someone found an exploit. That may happen again with JB if you take it.
It might take the devs a few days to a week to update their roms. Just be patient.
If you absolutely can't wait, you should be stock before taking an OTA.
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And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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Neither. As I already said, it will show up in a pre-rooted, TWRP flashable, but otherwise stock ROM in the Development subforum. It usually takes about a day before a dev gets ahold of the OTA file, and posts a pre-rooted version of it. Just flash that. And the way the OTAs roll out, you'll probably see the pre-rooted version on XDA before you even get the OTA notification.
You should just erase from your brain the concept of accepting the OTA.
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Neither. As I already said, it will show up in a pre-rooted, TWRP flashable, but otherwise stock ROM in the Development subforum. It usually takes about a day before a dev gets ahold of the OTA file, and posts a pre-rooted version of it. Just flash that. And the way the OTAs roll out, you'll probably see the pre-rooted version on XDA before you even get the OTA notification.
You should just erase from your brain the concept of accepting the OTA.
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But I don't think there's a pre rooted ROM for HOXL here, or I can't find one, anyway if it comes out that'll be great I'll definitely flash that
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But I don't think there's a pre rooted ROM for HOXL here, or I can't find one, anyway if it comes out that'll be great I'll definitely flash that
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There's nothing for JB because it hasn't been released yet. There are rooted versions of many of the other firmware versions in the development section; just look in the compilation thread at the top, which has them all listed.
So,i was lucky i started it before i get the phone on hands! I really thought that at&t takes a lot of time to give ota but it is not so long time!(max a month i think) I think JB hasn't pop up not even for htc(no-carrier branded)phones,always talking about s4 version or 4g as it is called. All stock rooted roms i check seemed good but most of times it was still branded. So to sum up i think i will stay with the stock rom till jb pops up,then i will root the phone deleting all at&t apps...!(only way i know to delete rom's apps is with at least root acces right is there any other?)
I think it is needed to be said againe that even if you have stock rom and ota pops up you dont't do the update but you get the update from xda cause stock root rom+ota can cause problems!
Silly question (i think) unrooting and then ota is as dengarous as stock root rom and ota????(it sounds ok and you avoid re-installing your apps)
All i need (FOR NOW OF COURSE) is a clear rom and get the original "hTC_bootup_one" and "hTC_downanimation" zip files to the right place to avoid at&t meeting every time i go to menu and every time i power my up phone!

Verizon rolling out Stagefright patch for Galaxy S5

Verizon is rolling out Stagefright OTA patch for Galaxy S5. I installed and tested the patch. My phone is stock/un-rooted, and appears to be working fine after the patch.
What android version?
G900VVRU2BOG5 is the new update VZ rolling out...
I have captured the update.zip OTA ..
Let me know if some needs for research. .
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JavaManRules-GS4 said:
G900VVRU2BOG5 is the new update VZ rolling out...
I have captured the update.zip OTA ..
Let me know if some needs for research. .
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I think you missed posting in a couple hundred other threads...
Or you can just use viper4android, kill stagefright, and tell Verizon, "Thanks, but no thanks--I'm in this for _me_ now."
I am not entirely sure what that means, but man, the day when this contract ends cannot come soon enough.
What version of android OS are we at now with all these updates? Is it still 5.0???
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What version of android OS are we at now with all these updates? Is it still 5.0???
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5.0.2 I think... but does this mean the OE1 unrootable phone is fixed? Can the G900Vs with this build be rooted now?
skyhawk21 said:
What version of android OS are we at now with all these updates? Is it still 5.0???
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Pretty sure it's still 5.0. I don't think the S5 will be getting any more updates, it's at the end of its software cycle since 5.0, this update was only released for the stagefright fix.
AXMWBS said:
5.0.2 I think... but does this mean the OE1 unrootable phone is fixed? Can the G900Vs with this build be rooted now?
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No. Verizon's own custom OE1 is the reason that it's not rootable. Once you have the OE1 Kernel or higher, you cannot root unless they find another exploit. I doubt they will considering it's an older phone that's already being phased out in terms of support.
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5.0.2 I think... but does this mean the OE1 unrootable phone is fixed? Can the G900Vs with this build be rooted now?
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You forgot "Am I currently dreaming? ? Bfkddg? ? "
So... no carbon rom.... Do I need to take my phone back since I still have about 9 days and get something different, or deal with it...?
AXMWBS said:
So... no carbon rom.... Do I need to take my phone back since I still have about 9 days and get something different, or deal with it...?
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If it doesn't already exist for this phone, it won't in the future.
ldeveraux said:
If it doesn't already exist for this phone, it won't in the future.
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It does exist, but my phone cant be rooted now...
Which brings me to my next question...
As of today, which Verizon Phones can be rooted still?
AXMWBS said:
So... no carbon rom.... Do I need to take my phone back since I still have about 9 days and get something different, or deal with it...?
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Take it back. You have a "new" phone that basically has no support for it anymore. If you have something to use currently other than the S5, I'd consider waiting till the new Google Nexus 5 or 6 2015 edition coming out this year. That should have root and an unlocked bootloader (Google wouldn't stand for Verizon locking down their phone).
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It does exist, but my phone cant be rooted now...
Which brings me to my next question...
As of today, which Verizon Phones can be rooted still?
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You would have to find a phone you like, go to that forum, and check. I believe any phone with an unlocked bootloader can always be rooted? And I'm pretty sure the Google nexus 5/6 (the old ones) will always be rootable.
I'm jumping ship from Samsung (I wanted to move to the Note at one point, but Samsung screwed up big time with their phones trying to make it like an iPhone, and with Samsung/Verizon in bed with locking up root/bootloader).
ldeveraux said:
If it doesn't already exist for this phone, it won't in the future.
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Spartan117H3 said:
Take it back. You have a "new" phone that basically has no support for it anymore. If you have something to use currently other than the S5, I'd consider waiting till the new Google Nexus 5 or 6 2015 edition coming out this year. That should have root and an unlocked bootloader (Google wouldn't stand for Verizon locking down their phone).
You would have to find a phone you like, go to that forum, and check. I believe any phone with an unlocked bootloader can always be rooted? And I'm pretty sure the Google nexus 5/6 (the old ones) will always be rootable.
I'm jumping ship from Samsung (I wanted to move to the Note at one point, but Samsung screwed up big time with their phones trying to make it like an iPhone, and with Samsung/Verizon in bed with locking up root/bootloader).
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What about the HTC One M8 and M9. Are they rootable? I just want to be able to customize more than my wallpaper and font.. I want themes and color schemes and message skins that aren't apps because that drains my battery.
AXMWBS said:
What about the HTC One M8 and M9. Are they rootable? I just want to be able to customize more than my wallpaper and font.. I want themes and color schemes and message skins that aren't apps because that drains my battery.
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There's a search bar at the top of XDA where you can enter a device. It also allows you to specify which carrier as well. This is from the M9 forum. Says you need a JAVA card which is expensive, but it unlocks the phone/allows root. You can also donate (usually $20-60) users to do it for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t-s-off-how-root-s-off-verizon-m9-20-t3123178
I have no idea about the M8, seems to be the same, have to have S-OFF or whatever the heck that means. Do research yourself if you want the phone.
I don't think I saw anyone ask this yet...
If I'm currently rooted with OE1, can i take this update and stay rooted? or will i loose root and not be able to get root again?
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owenrg said:
I don't think I saw anyone ask this yet...
If I'm currently rooted with OE1, can i take this update and stay rooted? or will i loose root and not be able to get root again?
thanks
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Follow the instructions in muniz_ri's thread. He hasn't released the deodexed version though. You should never take ota when rooted, and you should actually have it disabled as soon as you root. One user reported that they ota updated without losing root, but I'd never recommend it.
There is no benefit in disabling it. You have to authorize any update, so it cannot overwrite it on its own. The only reason to disable it is the popup after an update comes out which can be stopped by deleting the update.zip then having the install fail.
Two or three updates ago, I lost the ability to rotate my screen unless an app forces it to rotate, now with this update my phone no longer reads sd cards, and in fact boot loops if there is one inserted. I've done a lot of searching, both when the initial problem manifested, and now with the new problem, but haven't seen anyone with a fix. Any suggestions?
Verizon sm-g900v, latest update g900vvru2bog5,

And the 5.1.1 update arrives !!!

Verizon has started rolling out the 5.1.1 update !!! Te build no is G920VVRU3BOG5.
If you get OTA, do share screenshot.. what's the size?
Btw, if you love root access, don't update.
Source here
No OTA yet.
Sounds good, just came across the news elsewhere, but (obviously?) waiting until someone can root it.
I wonder if a rom similar to the OF1 rom in the Verizon Edge development thread will be possible? Also, I saw in the general S6 thread that they were able to finally get Xposed to boot...still very very very experimental but it's booting...I won't even think about taking the OTA if Xposed is close. I am definitely glad they finally pushed the update, though!
Keep Root or Update?
Right now I'm on Cleanrom Lite 1.1 & I love it, especially the battery life.
But, I don't like being vulnerable to Stagefright.
Do you think I should keep root & wait for someone to root 5.1.1 or lose root & take the update?
Thanks!
--JP
I would wait personally I'm pretty sure someone will be looking into keeping root and being able to get 5.1.1
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Lacyjpr said:
Right now I'm on Cleanrom Lite 1.1 & I love it, especially the battery life.
But, I don't like being vulnerable to Stagefright.
Do you think I should keep root & wait for someone to root 5.1.1 or lose root & take the update?
Thanks!
--JP
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Download textra and use that for sms till 5.1.1 is rooted. It has a stage fright patch in it that prevents videos from downloading until you authorize it
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Its simple...if you like root...wait...
On a side note, im amazed 5.1.1 is out. I might take the update a week before september to try it out before I sell this for a new Moto Style.
The 5.1.1 fixes launcher wallpaper issues and gets rid of the parallax effect (wallpapers FINALLY work on launchers)
aaaaand as a bonus it patches stagefright.
so I'm definitely sticking with 5.1.1.
PS what are some ways to root without tripping KNOX or whatever the binary counter is?
I don't have Verizon so o have to wait for a stock Odin
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Congrats guys, AT&T is now officially in last place for 5.1.1
Just forced a check, and still getting the message that I have the latest version even though it is not 5.1.1 - any suggestions on how to get it to "see the light"?
anyone actually receive the OTA yet? I saw news of this yesterday evening. I have been checking for the update ever since then, but no dice. I haven't seen anyone online actually receive it. How long does it usually take from announcment to download in Verizon land? I used to be on AT&T prior to this device.
Not even Smart Switch is picking up the update yet, but I haven't tried Kies yet.
hopesrequiem said:
Download textra and use that for sms till 5.1.1 is rooted. It has a stage fright patch in it that prevents videos from downloading until you authorize it
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False sense of security since that is only one of the demonstrated ways exploiting Stagefright. There are many others.
Even the Google patch itself the other day to Nexus devices leaves open other issues that they now have to patch.
Is there any downsides to upgrading to 5.1.1 if you're on OF1 since there's no root for it anyways?
Anyone notice any performance differences?
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Is there any downsides to upgrading to 5.1.1 if you're on OF1 since there's no root for it anyways?
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still no root? lol
I'd say go for it, isn't there suppose to be RAW. Support anyways?
downloading now
installing now! OTA just hit my phone. We'll see how it goes.

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