I'm getting this phone soon but just a couple questions.
Ive heard that the sensation has low available ram issues (probably sense?) but when/if a stock rom comes that should be fixed right?
Also since the avalible rom is pretty low. Would a class 10 micro sd be good for running data2sd (once we have root) were the whole data partion is on the sd.
is class 10 faster then the built in rom?
Having class10 won't make such a big difference (I purchased a class10 16Gb card and did not see any improvement compared to my class4) except that it will be faster to place big files (movies, etc) on the card
Concerning RAM, it's true that stock ROMs don't really manage it well, mainly because they start many apps in the background. Some can be killed, some will always come back after killed.
So once I've killed the useless apps after a fresh reboot, I can get a maximum of 350Mo free RAM, that tend to go to an average 250Mo after some hours of use.
Android 2.3 is not that bad in managing RAM (despite stock ROMs are) so I had low ram having a visible impact on something only once, when wanting to play Tekken 3 with Fpse and realized it was lagging because of low ram. My sensation was not laggy, only Fpse was, it demands much ressoruces! (I hadn't rebooted my Sensation for 3 days, that was the reason for low ram....now, I reboot it every 2 days, and no more problem)
So RAM is ok, if it gets kinda low, you won't notice it, and Android will tend to release ram afterwards, and once we'll have custom roms, it will be huge!
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I don't know if anyone ever thought about making swap on cappy . I just feel a bit of shortage in ram, even I use talon big mem version still feel inadequate. What I am thinking is to make swap on external sdcard because it's faster, anyone can help me with it? Thanks in advance.
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are you talking about a memory swap file?
"make swap" isnt too descriptive.
SD cards under class 6 are slower than our "ram"
if you feel inadequate with a big mem version of talon, you have something wrong.
adding another process to constantly read/write and swap files would be THE LAST THING you would want to do with your phone....
Android is pretty efficient at managing memory .... and swap files are well, terrible when you have high speed storage (ssd's, nand,) and for the class on the sd cards it is misleading. A lot of cards have algorithms that help improve their read speeds, with SSD (or NAND) you want to see the random IO speeds for reads and writes (class speeds are for reads)
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I mean memory swap.
And I have a class 10 card(tested read 20M/s and write 18M/s).
Thanks for your answersI'll think about it either way.
Does the captivate even have quick enough i/o to support class 10? And either way, like mentioned before Android IS very efficient at managing memory, which shows in their design of activities (read: onResume(), onPause(), onCreate(), onDestroy()). If your foreground app requires more memory than the system can provide, lower activities on the stack will be told to pause or destroy until a later time to free up memory.
If your phone's performance is suffering, it's most likely a processing issue. Perhaps you have some nasty services running (this could also be reflected in poor battery life).
Hi,
I recently got the Sensation XE and have had it for a week or two now. in the last couple of days, my RAM usage suddenly shot up (going from averaging 200mb free to less than 100mb free). I haven't installed anything recently so there isn't a new application eating it up.
I've read that task killers aren't neccessary and also less free ram reported should mean better performance. firstly, task killers haven't done crap and i have less ram yet its running far slower than when i first got it.
Any advice?
I have the same issue on my SXL. I have also posted a question (here is the link in case I get anything back you may be able to use) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488516
So even dual cores have this issue. How annoying, I was thinking of getting rid and getting an SE What's a good phone these days? They all seem to be going backwards...
Hi,
My HTC one S phone came with 1024MB RAM. I understand that the system OS needs RAM memory so there is actually only 684MB available for running apps.
However, I am using only a total of about 100MB apps for the moment (adding up the MB's used by the apps as shown under 'activated apps') but still there seems to be no more than 280MB free RAM available (while I expect about 580 MB available).
This does not make sense to me. Or does it? Could there be a memory leak?
Anyone with the same problem?
Many thanks.
Now that you mentioned it, I also notice something similar with my phone... I did a bit of searching, and I found something that is a little old (as far as phone time goes), but perhaps useful:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
In summary, so long as your phone isn't eating up all of the RAM, you should be fine (is it impacting your experience? As for me, it doesn't seem to be). I wish I knew better what is going on, though. I would wager, though, that if one were to run an AOSP ROM on this phone, one would see an improvement in RAM usage, esp. since Sense wouldn't be hogging resources (not that it seems to matter much to me right now, though). Also, the reduction of bloatware from using another ROM would further reduce the amount of things running in general.
My Charge is routinely running 275 - 300 MB of RAM even when "idle" and I receive a LOT of warnings that my memory is running low when I'm using Tasker or Evernote. While I use Linux at home on my personal computer, I'm by no means a professional in any real sense of the word. But my layperson's understanding of RAM is that, generally speaking, more is better and allows for a machine to run, boot, etc... faster and more reliably. I've read that the Charge is a RAM wannabe and I know there are phones with much more than is available with this device but does that mean anything for this phone? Should I be using something that will clear more RAM for me or is that just a pipe dream and I have to deal with the lack of RAM by buying a new phone at some later time?
I'm using Tweaked 3.1 and have to say that Dwitheral has made this phone one I'm happy with - my fiancee has the Charge as well and is paranoid about rooting / ROMing, so she is totally stock. Needless to say, her phone sucks eggs and mine doesn't. I'm looking for a replacement but will not do so until Black Friday next year - then I can get a device that's a little "older" for less than $50 that will be a huge improvement over the Charge. In the meantime, with Tweaked 3.1, a Hyperion 3500 mha extended life battery and Tasker, this phone is serviceable. But the high RAM usage nags at me and I'm wondering if this is really an issue and, if so, is there anything to do about it? When I look at running applications in task manager, it is usually none or one, maybe, on occasion, two running applications.
Can someone clarify this for me? Do I need to be concerned and, if so, is there a solution that doesn't start with "Upon entering the Verizon store, ask where the new DNA is located...."
Thanks in advance!
Forget what you know about RAM in Windows, because this isn't Windows. In Linux (and by extension in Android), unused RAM is generally considered to be wasted. The Android low memory killer (LMK) will take care of killing apps and freeing when it needs to make space for other things, and artificially killing stuff is going to make your phone perform worse and use more battery. You need enough free for apps to have room to start without waiting, but not so much that it kills background apps that you want there. You can tweak the LMK, but 275-300MB used (75-100MB free) is pretty close to the sweet spot for this phone.
I guess it is from since of the tweaks I am running, but I usually have an extra 50-80 MB from what you described.
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RAM management is Okayish
Ram management is not good. Heavy apps like pubg cannot run smootly and get reloaded when you use another app
The answer is gonna be different depending on whether you have the 4GB or 6GB version. My 6GB version is working very smooth, but I do think that the stock Pie rom closes apps a bit too aggressively. I assume this helps to save battery. My bootloader is unlocked, so eventually I plan to try out some custom roms too, and hopefully the RAM management will be a little less aggressive.
My device 6 months older now, stock ROM, now i can experience sluggishness in operation, i use stock launcher.
Sometimes it takes few sec pause to shuffle app, sharing between different apps, there are some glitches in performance now. Mine is 4gb/64gb variant.
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My device 6 months older now, stock ROM, now i can experience sluggishness in operation, i use stock launcher.
Sometimes it takes few sec pause to shuffle app, sharing between different apps, there are some glitches in performance now. Mine is 4gb/64gb variant.
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I'm facing the same problem. While switching between apps, it freezes for a second. Don't know why this problem is. On the Mi A2, nothing like this happens. Very poor OS Management.
I don't think so. I'm using this from last one week and everything seems to be working fine. I have a lot of apps installed but they don't freeze nor does the system kills them automatically. I have enabled automatic battery management. I think you guys have little storage left in your internal memory. Try resetting your devices and it should start working fine. In case if it doesn't then it may be the wear and tear part for which I need to be prepared. Thanks.
Any custom roms improve pubg performance the device is Nokia 6.1plus 4gb reply me