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Today I tried the Hero, and I must say that it makes the Magic just as you would expect. I think this ROM is that we should concentrate all our efforts in order to make it usable.
i think that yes, it is the best rom ive ever tried, but it is too slowly and crashes frequently. htc apps and widwegts are also incredible!
one quesetion. someone have notice that all roms do not let see youtube videos in high quality. Original youtube app from vodafome let me select high quality, in this case no.. and there are great differences!
IsAhT said:
i think that yes, it is the best rom ive ever tried, but it is too slowly and crashes frequently. htc apps and widwegts are also incredible!
one quesetion. someone have notice that all roms do not let see youtube videos in high quality. Original youtube app from vodafome let me select high quality, in this case no.. and there are great differences!
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I don't have this youtube issue. When I watch at a video, in menu pop up it ask me if I want to see it in normal res.
I'm with v2 Rogers rom.
I think that hero is the way... cool interface and widgets but it needs more machine.
IsAhT said:
i think that yes, it is the best rom ive ever tried, but it is too slowly and crashes frequently. htc apps and widwegts are also incredible!
one quesetion. someone have notice that all roms do not let see youtube videos in high quality. Original youtube app from vodafome let me select high quality, in this case no.. and there are great differences!
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If you have a high speed connection like wifi or hsdpa, youtube plays in high quality.
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I think that hero is the way... cool interface and widgets but it needs more machine.
If you have a high speed connection like wifi or hsdpa, youtube plays in high quality.
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are the hardware specs on the hero that much more robust than on the Magic? I should look that up I suppose....
Regardless, I would think that HTC would eventually want to supply the Rosie UI to as many devices as possible, as they did with touchflo 3d when it came out.
I reinstalled Hero yesterday evening as I wanted to give it a try.
I used nk02 version cause my sdcard is very slow for handling the Apps. It's the 8GB sdcard that came with the Magic. I learned the last days that it's class 2 and, in order to have the Apps running properly in the sdcard, we need a class 6.
My new sdcard is on the way and i will be able to double check this.
Anyway, after installing the rom i did several optimization things. I just went to the Dream forum and use what the people are doing. Basically this is what i did:
- Hero SpeedUp v2.0 script. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521421
From here I took the dexopt-wrapper and the optimize.sh script in order to create .odex files for every apk.
- Rosie/Launcher Toggle. Idea here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521877
But the procedure I use is this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3886560&postcount=23
This means that I disable the Rosie UI and use for normal daily use the standard home screen.
Someone will ask why would I want to have Hero when I disable the Rosie UI. Simple: I can switch back to Rosie whenever I want if I want to play with the new home screen.
But, If I want the phone to be responsive and not that laggy, it's better to disable Rosie. In this way the phone works quite well and I still have all the advantages that the new Hero firmware has to offer me:
- Twitter and facebook integration
- new calendar
- all the new menus in contacts, dialer, etc.
- new camera
etc, etc, etc.
I also read that if I just keep Rosie without any widget, it will still run smooth but i haven't tried it yet.
So overall I'm happy of my decision to go for Hero again (I haven't tried Rogers, I moved from Ion to Hero directly) and I will also support the idea to focus on this firmware.
It's really looking good.
P.S: I will also copy this post in the Hero forum as I think it belongs there too.
rommelin said:
- Rosie/Launcher Toggle. Idea here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521877
But the procedure I use is this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3886560&postcount=23
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This didn't work for me.
When I clicked on home (after clearing defaults) it just went back to the home screen (rosie).
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This didn't work for me.
When I clicked on home (after clearing defaults) it just went back to the home screen (rosie).
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Can you see inside the Application Management menu both apps? Rosie and Home?
If you don't have Home, even if you clear defaults from Rosie, it will go back to Rosie as there would not be any other alternative.
So, can you confirm me that you can see both apps?
P.S: Just reminder: after you push Launcher to the phone, you need to reboot.
Doh! rebooted, works now. Thanks
Does anyone know where I can find the stock 2.1 Contacts and Dialer .apk's?
Are these even possible to install as .apks? I'm trying to get my phone to as close as stock as possible without rooting. Thanks
i am very interested in this as well, but i think we'll have to wait for root or mods to get the stock dialer, contacts list, sms app and keyboard...
i'm afraid there's only a few of us who /don't/ want the HTC modifications to Android on our phones...
If anyone finds these I'd also like them. The HTC sense ones leave out too many options and replace them with fancy icons.
Add me to the list.
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just adding my 2cents.. i would love to have the stock android dialer from nexus/moto droid please.
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Is there any reason the n1 dialer, contacts and sms app can't be ported/installed on the incredible?
We've gotten a few things, clock, gallery, etc...
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Is there any reason the n1 dialer, contacts and sms app can't be ported/installed on the incredible?
We've gotten a few things, clock, gallery, etc...
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They depend on the stock framework and without root , they cannot be installed. I'm pretty sure that if you try to install them it'll tell that the application already exists.
ok, i was wondering if there was something prohibiting the install... thank you for the update.
bump, now that we have root, has anyone had success getting a stock mms.apk, contacts.apk or phone.apk installed?
without removing phone.apk and mms.apk from the device, contacts.apk is the only one from the n1 dump that will /attempt/ to install, but it fails.
i assume, once the stock phone.apk and mms.apk are removed, the n1 mms.apk and phone.apk will also fail to install, so something needs to be modified, but i don't know much about all of this yet, i imagine i will learn a lot, as roms are released and kitchens, etc...
but if anyone has ability, and wants to take a whack at it, or point us in the right direction for learning what we need to do, please let us know...
otherwise, i suppose we wait for a vanilla rom to come out... here's hoping the nand flash is hacked soon...
You cannot "install" those sorts of apks. You simply have to copy, move or push them into the folder with rw access. It just overwrites the old file and then it will function if it can. If you overwrite the apk with an incompatible one, you will probably crash your phone. You also have to be careful because a lot of applications are dependent on each other.
To remove Sense means removing about 90 applications since they all depend on each other. If you do not remove them all, you will have compatibility problems and a lot of fc's and possibly boot loops. You also have to make sure you have replacements for most of them. Then there is the whole framework issue. Our phones are built and configured to work with Sense and the htc framework. You could probably manage to remove most but not everything without messing up your phone. Since we do not have a way to do a nand backup yet, I would just sit tight.
If you want a phone without any residual bits of Sense, you will want a Cyanogen based ROM. It has no Sense whatsoever.
For now, there are a few good apps in the Market for free that can act as replacements for most things like your contacts, launcher and mms.
If you want to do an easy Sense removing mod that requires root, just search for removing the htc lock screen. It is very easy and will give you the standard Android lock screen with the tab unlock feature. You will, however, lose the music player and notifications on the lock screen that htc has programmed in.
Before I begin, I want to let everyone know I searched endlessly for the problem I'm having and have found absolutely nothing. I'm hoping someone out there can help solve this problem for me. Also I'm posting here rather than any other section because it seems as though I would get the best help here.
I downloaded all of fresh's different vanilla clock options and tried them all individually making sure to wipe data/dalvik cache and haven't been able to achieve the results I'm looking for. Here are the problems:
1. His vanilla lock screen works but not when I receive calls, only when I turn off/on screen. When I receive calls I get the standard Htc lock screen. I've tried everything I can think of including using root explore to remove factory lock screen and also going in through the adb shell. Both ways seem successful until I get a call and realize I have the same problem all over again.
2. The second problem is that the vanilla clock on the lock screen is blurry and doesn't look the way it supposed to. It's black instead of white and very faint. I've found a way to get rid of the clock in the lock screen but would rather have one.
Basically I'm trying get the vanilla lock that's in darchdroid 2.7 or one that operates in that manner and looks the same. I'm assuming that that's the original unmodified/themed vanilla lockscreen.
Oh, and all this time I thought all those vanilla lockscreen mods (JsChiSurf, flipz, and the Gregalous's metamorph) handled calls this way!
I would also like to see this. Just a pure AOSP lock screen with all the looks and functionality of the original.
I'm confused my clock in the rotary aosp lockscreen is white and when I get a call the arc from the HTC lockscreen comes up but that's what's in the frameworks. I don't know what darchdroid looks like cause I've never tried it. I prefer sense roms.
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I'm confused my clock in the rotary aosp lockscreen is white and when I get a call the arc from the HTC lockscreen comes up but that's what's in the frameworks. I don't know what darchdroid looks like cause I've never tried it. I prefer sense roms.
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I prefer Sense based roms as well after having numerous problems with dd 2.7 I ran out of patience. Plus fresh is running incredibly smooth for me. But the vanilla lock screen on that rom is neat because it's made so that it comes up all the time in similar fashion to phones that come stock with vanilla such as the original droid. This means that when you get a call to answer/unlock the vanilla lock screen comes up as well. No Sense lock whatsoever. Also I believe that it's themed so it's not completely clear but only semi transparent so that you can tell the lock screen is there. Lol I'm probably not doing a good job at describing it and don't have any screen shots since I"m not using dd 2.7 anymore.
Below is a thread from a while back about putting aosp apks on Sense based roms and you (Papa) have a post that you signed the zips so that they could just be flashed on instead of pushed. I wonder if this is possible with the vanilla lock screen? I figured if anyone would know it would be you or jschisurf. I extracted dd 2.7 rom and looked through the individual files for the lock screen but since I don't know what I'm doing (I've programming illiterate) I didn't see anything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667715&highlight=aosp+apk
It will have to be done differently. Its not an app. Its in the android.policy file in the frameworks folder. I'm not great at classes.dex edits. IR bet is to ask jschisurf. He's the man when it comes to those edits
Should I send him a pm along with a link to this thread then?
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aerajan said:
Should I send him a pm along with a link to this thread then?
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That would be ur best shot
You might want to check out WidgetLocker if you haven't heard of it. It's $1.99 and really customizable.. here's the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732986
And here's a video review of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9InDlQTy5lY At 5:15 it looks like you can get the exact AOSP lock functionality as well as static wallpaper. Then it's just up to you to find the clock widget you like..
Ok thank you. I will pm him and see what happens.
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You might want to check out WidgetLocker if you haven't heard of it. It's $1.99 and really customizable.. here's the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732986
And here's a video review of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9InDlQTy5lY At 5:15 it looks like you can get the exact AOSP lock functionality as well as static wallpaper. Then it's just up to you to find the clock widget you like..
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c00ller, thanks so much for finding this app!!! I downloaded it already and it's awesome! The only thing I wish it could do is replace the answer call drag down bar as well which is part of what I was looking for. This is great though! I wouldn't have know about it otherwise.
No prob I'm actually thinking of getting it myself. I agree though, it would be perfect if it also showed slide to answer a call
1. His vanilla lock screen works but not when I receive calls, only when I turn off/on screen. When I receive calls I get the standard Htc lock screen. I've tried everything I can think of including using root explore to remove factory lock screen and also going in through the adb shell. Both ways seem successful until I get a call and realize I have the same problem all over again.
is there any way to make the receive call the same as the lockscreen?
The in call lockscreen is mutually exclusive of the standard lockscreen, and thus why deleting HtcLockScreen.apk has no impact on the in call lockscreen that displays.
The problem is, the in call lockscreen is controlled by Phone.apk. If it were possible to simply load the AOSP Phone.apk, it would likely work, but I don't think it is that easy, as there would likely have to be major "surgery" to the .apk to integrate into the HTC framework, etc.
The other option is to try and take the elements of just the AOSP Phone.apk file that control the in call lockscreen and incorporate them into our (HTC Phone.apk). Either way, a lot of work, I'm guessing, would be required to make it happen.
So, long story short, this isn't technically a lockscreen issue at all, but a Phone.apk "issue" to address, if possible.
I haven't taken the time to see what it may involve, and haven't even tried to see if an AOSP Phone.apk would load, out of the box (doubt it), but that's the starting point for anyone interested in tackling it.
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Before I begin, I want to let everyone know I searched endlessly for the problem I'm having and have found absolutely nothing. I'm hoping someone out there can help solve this problem for me. Also I'm posting here rather than any other section because it seems as though I would get the best help here.
I downloaded all of fresh's different vanilla clock options and tried them all individually making sure to wipe data/dalvik cache and haven't been able to achieve the results I'm looking for. Here are the problems:
1. His vanilla lock screen works but not when I receive calls, only when I turn off/on screen. When I receive calls I get the standard Htc lock screen. I've tried everything I can think of including using root explore to remove factory lock screen and also going in through the adb shell. Both ways seem successful until I get a call and realize I have the same problem all over again.
2. The second problem is that the vanilla clock on the lock screen is blurry and doesn't look the way it supposed to. It's black instead of white and very faint. I've found a way to get rid of the clock in the lock screen but would rather have one.
Basically I'm trying get the vanilla lock that's in darchdroid 2.7 or one that operates in that manner and looks the same. I'm assuming that that's the original unmodified/themed vanilla lockscreen.
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The in call lockscreen is mutually exclusive of the standard lockscreen, and thus why deleting HtcLockScreen.apk has no impact on the in call lockscreen that displays.
The problem is, the in call lockscreen is controlled by Phone.apk. It it were possible to simply load the AOSP Phone.apk, it would likely work, but I don't think it is that easy, as there would likely have to be major "surgery" to the .apk to integrate into the HTC framework, etc.
The other option is to try and take the elements of just the AOSP Phone.apk file that control the in call lockscreen and incorporate them into our (HTC Phone.apk). Either way, a lot of work, I'm guessing, would be required to make it happen.
So, long story short, this isn't technically a lockscreen issue at all, but a Phone.apk "issue" to address, if possible.
I haven't taken the time to see what it may involve, and haven't even tried to see if an AOSP Phone.apk would load, out of the box (doubt it), but that's the starting point for anyone interested in tackling it.
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By judging from your work i can see that you are quite good at these, would you mind if you could help us out? i guess a lot of people would want this
Jschisurf, thank you for your feedback! I knew if anyone might have an idea it would be you based on the numerous threads involving your work. I wish I could take what you said and begin tackling it however, I've got no skill in this area. The most I could do is offer you or anyone who can do this a small donation to tackle it and can get it working. However, that being said, I can't imagine how much of a pain in the ass this would be based on what's involved so I'm not going to push it.
I've tried to load aosp phone.apk in past but no go
OK, I've searched for days to try and find a fast, stable, sense-ui (Theme-wise) ROM that works on the HTC Hero. I've found tons of ROMS for the G1, I've tried the CyangenMod 6 ROM, I've spent hours searching for a good ROM. CM6 is a bit faster, but occasionally it will hang. (A bit better than stock 2.1) I don't like that a lot of apps don't work (After downloading an app and installing it, you can't click open or find it in your apps list) and I don't like that the fact that you can't group your contacts or have the Sprint/HTC widgets work. (The only widgets I use are the clock and the email, messages, and voice mail widgets that show how many you received.
Please let me know if you use one like that you can recommend.
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OK, I've searched for days to try and find a fast, stable, sense-ui (Theme-wise) ROM that works on the HTC Hero. I've found tons of ROMS for the G1, I've tried the CyangenMod 6 ROM, I've spent hours searching for a good ROM. CM6 is a bit faster, but occasionally it will hang. (A bit better than stock 2.1) I don't like that a lot of apps don't work (After downloading an app and installing it, you can't click open or find it in your apps list) and I don't like that the fact that you can't group your contacts or have the Sprint/HTC widgets work. (The only widgets I use are the clock and the email, messages, and voice mail widgets that show how many you received.
Please let me know if you use one like that you can recommend.
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For a good sense UI rom I would go with Zen rom. You can find it here.
I've been using this rom NFX-Hero 2.2.1 by nfinitefx45. After playing with other roms and the cyanogen ones, i've come back to this one. I've been running this for a couple weeks and it's pretty smooth and stable. So give it a try. Also, nfinitefx45 is one dedicated developer, he actually visits the thread often and help with answering questions, solving problems/bugs!
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I've been using this rom NFX-Hero 2.2.1 by nfinitefx45. After playing with other roms and the cyanogen ones, i've come back to this one. I've been running this for a couple weeks and it's pretty smooth and stable. So give it a try. Also, nfinitefx45 is one dedicated developer, he actually visits the thread often and help with answering questions, solving problems/bugs!
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+1 nfinite's roms are put together well and are fast yet also solid.
I'm using the cyanogen rom. CM6. It's actually running android 2.2 (froyo) instead of 2.1, and I think it has a better keyboard and runs very well. I use the "digital clock widget", and the weather and "news and weather" widget, I think both are available in the Market, but News and weather came with the rom. I miss the bookmarks and calendar widgets from Sense, but its not worth going back. As far as voicmail goes I'm using google voice to handle my it, and there are widgets for it too.
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I'm using the cyanogen rom. CM6. It's actually running android 2.2 (froyo) instead of 2.1, and I think it has a better keyboard and runs very well. I use the "digital clock widget", and the weather and "news and weather" widget, I think both are available in the Market, but News and weather came with the rom. I miss the bookmarks and calendar widgets from Sense, but its not worth going back. As far as voicmail goes I'm using google voice to handle my it, and there are widgets for it too.
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I use CM6 as well, and prefer it over any sense rom but the OP wanted sense so I thought I'd humor myself
The CM6 with CyanogenSense theme looks and feels like my stock Hero, but runs way faster and has a better battery life. Zen makes a great rom, bit imo the CM6 is the way to go.
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I've decided to try making a theme using the tutorial thread number 667951. (I can't post links yet I don't think, so again I'll just use this work around.) That being said, I've decided to stick with NFX-HERO for my ROM since the only thing wrong with it is the boot loop issue which I'm going to try starting from scratch to fix it today. So, the tutorial says that a good starting point for a theme would be to get an existing compatible theme and modify that one. (Great idea in my opinion. I've done this in the past with other phones I had.) Does anyone have an idea of a theme that would be useful for me to start off with? I want to change a lot of things on the phone, so the more intricate the theme is, probably the better.
Also, on a side note, if I remember correctly this thread had 3 pages before the site went down. I'm not sure why it was truncated. If any mods know why, please let me know.
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I've decided to try making a theme using the tutorial thread number 667951. (I can't post links yet I don't think, so again I'll just use this work around.) That being said, I've decided to stick with NFX-HERO for my ROM since the only thing wrong with it is the boot loop issue which I'm going to try starting from scratch to fix it today. So, the tutorial says that a good starting point for a theme would be to get an existing compatible theme and modify that one. (Great idea in my opinion. I've done this in the past with other phones I had.) Does anyone have an idea of a theme that would be useful for me to start off with? I want to change a lot of things on the phone, so the more intricate the theme is, probably the better.
Also, on a side note, if I remember correctly this thread had 3 pages before the site went down. I'm not sure why it was truncated. If any mods know why, please let me know.
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We lost about 2 days posts when the site crashed
i used a theme called blue echo to learn where most things go. and in his rom there is a great vending apk that has the market themed as well. then i took a dialer from one of godzen's and moved it all to compare to my stock 2.1 files and made it work with a rom i am currently running. im just now getting into looking at the apps like clock etc but that was a good start for me since there is alot covered there.
OK, let me ask you this. It'll clear up some things I need to know on compatibility. What makes a theme compatible with one ROM and not another? Likewise, what makes an app compatible with one ROM and not another? Is it the structure? If so, how? I'm a computer programmer, but even though android phones are quite similar to a Linux system on a PC, I'm still not sure if I understand the compatibility issues behind themes.
Also, just so I don't have to post again to ask this in case it's relevant, are Blue Echo and GodZen's dialer compatible with NFX? I downloaded them, but it never said anything about NFX. Is NFX similar to Sprint's 2.1 in the sense that it will run any themes I make for NFX?
well the Rom im using is mostly stock so the framework and htc.resource files are the same. for say CM6 (and i havent looked into it just a example) may have say the status bar grey and i want black. in the stock i would change the statusbar_bkg file in the framework.apk folder but in CM6 it may be in the same plae with a different name or the same name in a different place or just non existent all together. as for if they are compatible the only way to know is to try. the only way to know for sure is to open them compare and replace what you need in the correct order. also i use metamorph to apply themes. you can find it in the market. but the Vending.apk theme must be pushed with adb for some reason or it will crash the market.
matter of fact now that i think of it, the Rom im using is about to incorporate NFX. go here and you an see my post where i put what i transfereed over and they should work as i think NFX is mostly a stock (so to speak) Rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731404&page=41
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I've found tons of ROMS for the G1,
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You are using a Hero, right? Not a G1? That would explain the boot loop issue you had with NFX.
NFX-HERO was listed in the Hero ROMs section. You sure it's only for G1? Would another phone's ROM actually even flash to a different phone properly? I mean it works, but with boot loops.
Yes they will but may it may not work. And I'm sure that Rom is for a hero and I would flash over and look for myself but I have been threw like 5 Rom's today and just got it back normal lol.
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OK, so today I had a chance to wipe and flash the NFX-HERO ROM again. Now the phone seems a bit more stable. I can boot it and it boots all the way up fine and I can click "Shutdown Phone" and have it shutdown without freezing and rebooting, but now right now I've spotted only one flaw. When I use the phone in disk drive mode, but then pull the USB out of the phone without switching it back to charge only, and it freezes and reboots on me. (This happened last time.) I've also noticed that the phone gets increasingly more unstable as time goes on, so I wouldn't doubt that it would do this even more later on.
Correction, no matter what I do, to remove the USB when I use it as a disk drive, the phone freezes and reboots.
Update again: I decided to use RegawMod instead. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661991) It's super fast, no bugs from what I can see, highly compatible, and it looks slick! I even used a mod to turn my dialer pink. lol I can see this being my ROM of choice for a long time. The only thing I didn't like was that it was lacking the Google Navigation tools, so I installed GoogleApps.apk (If you're looking for this file, just Google GoogleApps.apk) from another ROM and rebooted me phone (So it would show up) and then it worked just fine. I'm not sure why it isn't showing local listings for destinations first, but that may be just because it didn't catch the GPS location right off the bat. I did set my location settings to being shared.
There is a pink theme in 2.1 catalog if i remember right. If you like pink that might be a good start for you to move the files around to see how they are built.
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NFX-HERO was listed in the Hero ROMs section. You sure it's only for G1? Would another phone's ROM actually even flash to a different phone properly? I mean it works, but with boot loops.
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Haha... I see how that can be misinterpreted.
Yeah, NFX is a Hero ROM, I was asking if you were trying to flash it on a G1, because if you were, it wouldn't work.
I like Regawmod 2.1. Fast with a nice dark theme. Based off of damage control. Just my two cents.
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I tried searching the forums and found nothing...
Like a lot of others, i dont like most of the applications that come bundled on my phone and like to get rid of most of them. I cant seem to figure out what .apk file to remove to get rid of the "Kidzone" application. Any ideas?
If any root-level file explorer works, download Absolute System from the Market. It's about two bucks but it's worth it. You can use it to remove any bloatware from your device.
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If any root-level file explorer works, download Absolute System from the Market. It's about two bucks but it's worth it. You can use it to remove any bloatware from your device.
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Not in this case. We do not have S-OFF.
Freezing the apps with titanium backup lasts between reboots, luckily. Won't remove them completely but they will be prevented from running or showing in the app drawer.
Only problem is I'm having trouble finding the package names of a couple bloatware apps, namely kidzone, highlight, friend stream and t-mobile mall. If anyone could find the names of those packages it would be great. I'll look up the names of the apps I did find in a little while and post them for you.
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Freezing the apps with titanium backup lasts between reboots, luckily. Won't remove them completely but they will be prevented from running or showing in the app drawer.
Only problem is I'm having trouble finding the package names of a couple bloatware apps, namely kidzone, highlight, friend stream and t-mobile mall. If anyone could find the names of those packages it would be great. I'll look up the names of the apps I did find in a little while and post them for you.
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Download Absolute System from the Market.
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vimk said:
Freezing the apps with titanium backup lasts between reboots, luckily. Won't remove them completely but they will be prevented from running or showing in the app drawer.
Only problem is I'm having trouble finding the package names of a couple bloatware apps, namely kidzone, highlight, friend stream and t-mobile mall. If anyone could find the names of those packages it would be great. I'll look up the names of the apps I did find in a little while and post them for you.
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I cant figure out what process is Kidzone either, but i think the T-Mobile mall was called "AppPack" (MallLite-4.0.92.apk)
Gumpo10k said:
I cant figure out what process is Kidzone either, but i think the T-Mobile mall was called "AppPack" (MallLite-4.0.92.apk)
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also tried removing the app pack, and it does not remove "kidzone"
Kidzone appears to basically be a locked down version of the home screen that only lets you turn on Youtube, Internet, Bejeweled, and T-Mobile TV from that screen. It requires you to setup a password for the lock screen. It appears to be built into sense. It's not really an application. Mostly a replacement lock screen. There's nothing "kid" about it honestly.
Akujin said:
Kidzone appears to basically be a locked down version of the home screen that only lets you turn on Youtube, Internet, Bejeweled, and T-Mobile TV from that screen. It requires you to setup a password for the lock screen. It appears to be built into sense. It's not really an application. Mostly a replacement lock screen. There's nothing "kid" about it honestly.
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Is there a way to remove the shortcut from the app drawer?
electro_chef said:
Is there a way to remove the shortcut from the app drawer?
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I second that request!
I made a thread in "themes and apps" about cleaning up bloat - still no luck on kidzone though.
I am fiddling around with dumping sense now, that will probably do it. I'll post back here if I can figure out how to make kidzone go away.
Meantime - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16739548#post16739548
okay - sorry to post after myself but I got rid of kidzone.
First, I restored a CWM backup I made right after root/busybox installation.
So, my phone state is fresh S-OFF/Root with SU & busybox installed.
It may be important to note that I did a factory reset to my phone just before S-OFF/Root & had a freshly formatted MicroSD card.
I then installed ADW Launcher from the Market, and hit my "home" key. Selected "Use Default" and chose ADW Launcher.
Now my phone defaults to ADW as it's launcher.
I then installed "Absolute System" from the Market, and used it to remove "HTC Sense"
Closed out Absolute System, then scrolled between all 5 ADW desktop screens, powered down the phone, then powered up again. (*NOTE fastboot = off)
Booted fine, was able to ditch sense without issue, and KIDZONE IS GONE!
As always, make sure to do a fresh system backup before messing with anything like this, but Kidzone is linked to sense, and replacing sense with another launcher will remove it.
HTC Sense was the only app removed from the phone, and I haven't checked everything to make sure it works yet, but no HTC crash report to send, and no force close issues. (yet - to be determined)
I've been itching to ditch sense since I got the phone, and this was my first quick test at it. Works good so far.
Edit to add:
Checked the "personalize" option at the top of the "settings" list. This just brings you back to the main desktop, doesn't throw an error.
I knew this one thing would be messed up somehow after ditching sense, but the fact that it doesn't make a problem and just closes the menu is fine by me.
I'll spend the rest of the day testing out my phone without sense to see how it runs. I'll post back how it went tomorrow.
Edit - 11/01/2011:
When I said "without sense" I meant without the sense launcher. I expanded on and clarified that in another thread (that app thread) but never cleared it up here.
To fully remove sense is one heck of a project, and will take much more then just switching your launcher.
This is great info - but with this last method - can you still use the stock/factory camera app? Is the camera fully functional, it might not be a big deal to some but would be cool to retain full factory camera functionality.
Wow, feels like going back in time -
Yep, stock camera app works fine.
It's tied to sense, and there is no true AOSP ROM out there yet, so pretty much no matter what you do you should keep stock camera functionality.
Actually, keeping the stock camera functionality/app is the main reason why there is no AOSP ROM yet, it's been generally decided that losing that would be...undesirable.
Kidzone is part of Rosie.apk, which is the Sense launcher. You lose it once you switch to another launcher (adw, go, etc...) and uninstall rosie.apk
Blue6IX said:
Wow, feels like going back in time -
Yep, stock camera app works fine.
It's tied to sense, and there is no true AOSP ROM out there yet, so pretty much no matter what you do you should keep stock camera functionality.
Actually, keeping the stock camera functionality/app is the main reason why there is no AOSP ROM yet, it's been generally decided that losing that would be...undesirable.
Kidzone is part of Rosie.apk, which is the Sense launcher. You lose it once you switch to another launcher (adw, go, etc...) and uninstall rosie.apk
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Exactly.. + 1 for blue.
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