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Just got my T-Mobile HTC Sensation in the mail today.. haven't popped in my SIM card yet, just playing with it a bit to see how I like it. My initial thoughts:
Very well built, feels great in your hand, doesn't feel heavy or bulky at all. Big thumbs up
The viewing angles really are bad.. unless you look at it straight on, a black background becomes gray and the image becomes cloudy. I'm probably spoiled by the AMOLED on the N1, but that's my reaction.
The browser is silky smooth! You can pinch-zoom at will, everything is crisp and sharp. But again, it looks washed out to me.
The launcher IS LAGGY. There's just no other way to put it. Swiping homescreens is laggy, pinch zooming out to see all of them is laggy and choppy, and a factory reset didn't solve that problem.
Camera and camcorder are good! Video framerates are good even in low light.
I know LauncherPro would probably fix the lag, but then where is that Dual Core performance? What's the point of designing such a grand 3D interface if the homescreens aren't smooth?
That screen is really bothering me... I thought I would be okay, but despite the resolution I like the Nexus One display better, just because it always looks great even if it's sitting on your desk and you glance at it. With the Sensation, you just see a washed out glow... yuck.
Sorry if this sounds really harsh, but these are my gut initial reactions. I really want to like this phone.. let's see!
The 'dual-core' is more marketing. It adds nothing to the phone's performance. I previously had a G2X and it was slower than my Nexus S. I'm just hoping this phone that I have ordered won't reboot 3x's a day.
you must have had a bad g2x. i've had both and the g2x was way faster than both the nexus s and the sensation.
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The 'dual-core' is more marketing. It adds nothing to the phone's performance. I previously had a G2X and it was slower than my Nexus S. I'm just hoping this phone that I have ordered won't reboot 3x's a day.
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Like the previous poster said. You must have had a bad G2X (like 99% of the people who own one) because the G2X I had was the quickest Android device I have ever used (including the Nexus S). Dual Core is not a marketing term. Android just hasn't utilized the two cores yet (except for Honey Comb). I can attest to games playing at a higher frame rate on both the Sensation and the G2X than they did on my Vibrant, Nexus S and Nexus One.
To the OP....Once I turned the animations off and that stupid animated weather when unlocking the phone, the lag went away. I now have no lag when deleting items from the home screen, transitioning home screens and opening the app drawer. When I kept the phone stock like HTC sent it, it did in fact lag a little but not much. In my opinion HTC put to much animation into Android without having hardware acceleration.
The lag comes from HTC sense...it's an awesome UI for customization and features, but uses a lot of resources.
brian85 said:
The lag comes from HTC sense...it's an awesome UI for customization and features, but uses a lot of resources.
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Yep once were rooted and we can remove sense well be flying even more
pakraider said:
Very well built, feels great in your hand, doesn't feel heavy or bulky at all. Big thumbs up
The viewing angles really are bad.. unless you look at it straight on, a black background becomes gray and the image becomes cloudy. I'm probably spoiled by the AMOLED on the N1, but that's my reaction.
The browser is silky smooth! You can pinch-zoom at will, everything is crisp and sharp. But again, it looks washed out to me.
The launcher IS LAGGY. There's just no other way to put it. Swiping homescreens is laggy, pinch zooming out to see all of them is laggy and choppy, and a factory reset didn't solve that problem.
Camera and camcorder are good! Video framerates are good even in low light.
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I'm also coming from an N1
-Agree on the build quality. Only thing I can say is that I feel a little bit shaky about the actual release button for the back cover but no biggy.
-I feel you on the bad viewing angles
-Agree on the browser
-You know what, I don't have that many apps on my phone but my phone is not laggy, pretty responsive actually, I would say more so than my N1.
-Haven't messed around with the camera too much yet.
One thing though I was sad to shelf the AMOLED on my N1 but am not as disappointed as I thought I would be. Yes the viewing angles are BAD I do admit that but I'm pretty happy with my straight on view of the display. It is very vibrant head on and not far off from the quality of the N1. I wonder if there are multiple screen manufacturers... When I got an MT4G, now that display SUCKED!!! totally washed out even head on. I heard they improved the screens in the later batches but it was nasty. Screen on the sensation is 10x better but no AMOLED.
I exchanged my sensation for a new one today.the 3 hours i was using my nexus one i missed the sensation so much lol. The big screen and higher res ftw
Try GoLauncher and there should be no lag.
jrwingate6 said:
To the OP....Once I turned the animations off and that stupid animated weather when unlocking the phone, the lag went away. I now have no lag when deleting items from the home screen, transitioning home screens and opening the app drawer. When I kept the phone stock like HTC sent it, it did in fact lag a little but not much. In my opinion HTC put to much animation into Android without having hardware acceleration.
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I tried turning off the animations, but it's still a tad choppy.. I'm pretty sure it's just Sense, because I did go ahead and install LauncherPro, and it's smooth as butter. But again, then you lose all those nice Sense widgets (which I like).
I think Sense without the 3D animations, and with a standard scrollable app drawer would be the perfect combination.
note: One huge disappointment.. just like my N1, the Sensation browser is very choppy when browsing XDA forums. Really weird.
Hope to add a few comparisons soon
This may sound petty but if you don't have a 4g sim card that will slow you down also I only say this because you are coming from a nexus one
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Robertcrow said:
This may sound petty but if you don't have a 4g sim card that will slow you down also I only say this because you are coming from a nexus one
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A SIM card has nothing to do with the phone's UI being choppy.
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This may sound petty but if you don't have a 4g sim card that will slow you down also I only say this because you are coming from a nexus one
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Not necessarily true. Im using the SIM card from my N1 in my G2X now and getting great 4G speeds. No.changes to my plan either.
Just a shot my wife had issues with her mt4g being slow then she was told she didn't have a 4g sim card then after she got one there has been no lag
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Coming from an N1 myself. I agree on the display. I used my N1 as an alarm clock in the dock and you could get it very dark. On the lowest brightness, the Sensation is like a beacon lighting up the whole room. Viewing angles are not great, but I dunno...I'm usually looking directly at my phone so I doubt it will be a huge issue. The N1 certainly spoiled me....
Some other thoughts:
The notification LED is almost worthless...I didn't even see it until day two of using the Sensation. A strange location and it isn't very bright.
Build quality is excellent, although the "sharp" edges on the front can make it sorta strange to hold...I'll probably get used to it.
After coming from stock Android on an unlocked N1 (not rooted), I can say I am looking forward to this thing being rooted so I can remove the dozens of silly apps I will never use. Very frustrating. Especially since I got one for my Dad and I know seeing a bunch of apps he doesn't want is going to confuse him.
I'm split on sense. I like a few of the widgets and I really like the unlock screen, but having duplicate applications is annoying (a "sense email" and "gmail", a "sense calendar" and "calender", etc). All in all, I would probably opt to remove it and return to stock Android if I could.
The Facebook integration is nice with one glaring problem: It auto syncs the facebook contacts. Not a big deal in the "contacts" app because you can hide them. However, go write a text message and it draws from the "people" app which has no ability to hide contacts and shows them all at once and multiple entries if they have more than one phone number. So I would go to write a text message and see a few hundred people from facebook that I barley know and would never want to text. The only way I could get rid of them was to disable the HTC facebook app, download the official one from the market and then opt not to share any contact info from Facebook. It works just like it did on my N1 (no FB integration, just go to the app) but it just seems silly that they thought of this issue on the contacts display but not for text messaging because the integration is actually sorta cool. For instance, it would download profile pictures for all of my contacts and even show recent status updates in the contacts view. Too bad they botched it on the text messaging.
lightforce said:
yep once were rooted and we can remove sense well be flying even more
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I too switched from a nexus one to the sensation. i love it soo much the only thing i dont like is it seems the data stops randomly when i have full 4g. maybe its my network in colorado but thats a little annoying. other than that with launcher pro and gosms it runs soooo smooth and no lag at all. multitasking is awesome!! when running music beta browser and other appz.
somethings up cause i have no chop. it's butter smooth. ans i have turned none of the animations off.
As most of you know, I am a very happy G2X owner. I returned 3 only to get a fully working device with not one bug on my forth try. That being said, here is a list I have compiled of my opinions on each device.
1) UI performance: The G2X is more responsive within the UI and rarely ever lags if not at all. The Sensation has a little lag with the settings HTC ships it with. After turning off the animations within the settings, removing the 7 home screens worth of widgets and turning off the animated weather upon unlock, the Sensation becomes more responsive and lag is almost non-existent. That being said. I have to give the edge to the G2X because the UI just feels faster overall.
2) Browser Speed: The G2X has a slight advantage when zooming in and out using pinch to zoom but the Sensation is faster when scrolling up and down. I hated that I couldn't flick my finger and zoom to the bottom of the page on the G2X. I noticed no difference when it came to loading web pages but the Sensation has the edge when it comes to Flash playback which is noticeably smoother than on the G2X. Lastly, the Sensation can fit more of the webpage on the display due to it's resolution so I have to give a slight advantage to the Sensation.
3) Game Play: Games play smooth on both devices but I loved the Tegra games that aren't readily available on the Sensation. The non-Tegra games I play on a regular basis (Home Run Battle, Angry Birds and Dungeon Defenders) all run great on either device and I cannot notice a difference between the two when it comes to frame rate. I have to give the slight edge to the G2X due to it having the great looking Tegra games.
4) Display: Coming from the Vibrant, the G2X display did not WOW me. Don't get me wrong. It's a good display (as long as you have minimal bleeding) but it's nothing special. The Sensation's display appears more vivid and sharper while noticeably displaying text more clear due to it's higher resolution panel. Both displays are equal when viewing in direct sunlight but neither one is very good in my opinion. I have to give this category to the Sensation due to a higher rez, larger display and a sharper colors.
5) Build Quality: Both devices feel very solid in the hand and appear to weigh about the same when in my hand. I love the rubbery feel on the G2X back plate as hit helps with grip and just feels great on the hand. In my opinion the back plate on the Sensation isn't as good looking nor does it feel as good. However, the Sensation feels better in your hand due to it's round edges. Both devices have a nice curve to the glass as well so I am giving them a tie in this category.
6) Speaker Quality: Both devices lack in this category due to the volume being to low when playing media. Voice calls sound good on either device but they sound a little hallow/tinny on the Sensation if that makes any sense. People on the other end said I sounded fine on both devices. In the end, someone needs to create a fix for the external speaker volume on both devices. The G2X gets the slight edge for sounding better during voice calls.
7) UI looks: This mainly comes down to preference and I like using both the Sense overlay and vanilla Android but lets face it. Most of us always throw a launcher on top of our UI skins no matter what it is. Sense obviously adds more flash to the UI and the new version has some pretty cool features like the new lock screen. I know there is always widget locker but it doesn't look any where near as good and sometimes it doesn't always remove your stock lock screen. Obviously vanilla seems to be faster and is more responsive so this is a category I am not going to name a winner in since it really comes down to personal preference.
8) Camera: Both of them take good still shots but the Sensation's shots look more crisp and records 1080p video much better. Videos appear to be smoother on top of looking better. The dual flash on the Sensation puts out a litltle more light which can be good and bad by lighting up the night club shots better but also washing out the photos a little more. I never liked flashes on phones anyway. Both of them have good camera apps but the Sensation gets the pick here due to video and still shots looking better.
9) Battery: Unlike some people who have a G2X, I was one of the lucky few to have a good battery and could easily get about 10-14 hours on moderate use. That being said, I get 15-18 hours on moderate use with the Sensation so this category obviously goes to the Sensation.
10) Storage and RAM: HTC really needs to start putting more app storage on there devices. It's 2011 and there still only adding 1gb of app storage. The Sensation has more RAM and even though it's running Sense, it shows a little more available memory on a fresh boot which is 263mb and on the G2X it is 249mb. This category gets a tie.
I have one bug on my Sensation and that is the WiFi death grip with holding it in landscape. I am starting to think these company's just don't care when putting there devices on the market. How hard is it to hold the phone in landscape and check for signal degradation?
I hope this helps you make the decision of whether you want to check out the Sensation or stay with the G2X. Haven't made my mind up yet though. I like them both!!!
Nice write up!
Thanks for the honest review...
thanks u da man
Thank you sir. Can you rate the front facing cameras on these devices? The g2x's is nice and honestly wish w/e drivers are used on it be mirrored onto back facing cam because the lighting is awesome.
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Very very nice review.... Staying g2x.. I felt basically the same with the sensation....
Good lord man, thanks for taking the time to write that up!
The Nexus One was the first HTC device I ever had and every one of their phones after that had extremely tinny speakerphones. I guess it's simply not a priority for HTC. I think it's sad honestly because I love using the speaker.
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Great comparison..I'm own my second g2x and on the ultimate rom and has zero issues..will stay with g2x...
Great review! Thanks.
I went to the mall yesterday and held one in my hands. Looked awesome. One thing that stood out was that when I scrolled through the apps in the app drawer, not only did they seem jerky as they scrolled, but they didn't "fling" as well. Seemed to move perfectly in time with my swipe. Seemed to take several swipes to go through the short stack of icons. Not a deal breaker or even a real concern, but sure seemed noticable. Any comment on that?
Thank you for your review. I had similar perceptions after playing around with a Sensation. The browser didn't perform as well as you have indicated on the unit I used. It was an in store unit so who knows what may have been done with it though. I decided to stick with my ROMed G2X and wait out the update.
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10) Storage and RAM: HTC really needs to start putting more app storage on there devices. It's 2011 and there still only adding 1gb of app storage. The Sensation has more RAM and even though it's running Sense, it shows a little more available memory on a fresh boot which is 263mb and on the G2X it is 249mb. This category gets a tie.
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I typically have 260-270 free on my G2x after a reboot though I'm not running stock. It really shouldn't matter on GB though as it should be dynamically controlled, giving and taking as needed.
The internal storage is a larger deal for those without a decent size and speed Micro SD card. If not for using it to transfer large work files to and from home I could probably do without an external card on the G2X. A couple gameloft games on the Sensation and you'll be out of space in short order. I could see this being quite annoying for some people.
It is going to be interesting to see what happens with both devices as development continues on each device. The G2X is waiting for the GB update and the Sensation is waiting for HTC to unlock the bootloader (I think?).
Both are great phones
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Great review! Thanks.
I went to the mall yesterday and held one in my hands. Looked awesome. One thing that stood out was that when I scrolled through the apps in the app drawer, not only did they seem jerky as they scrolled, but they didn't "fling" as well. Seemed to move perfectly in time with my swipe. Seemed to take several swipes to go through the short stack of icons. Not a deal breaker or even a real concern, but sure seemed noticable. Any comment on that?
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I think this app drawer scrolling issue you are talking about is by design in the new Sense 3.0, it scrolls down through the app drawer in pages. Depending on how many apps you have you will have to swipe again to see the next set of apps. When I am using Launcher pro it will "fling" all the way to the bottom of the apps listed. This is not in reference to the tabs at the bottom.
OP: Thanks for the great write-up. I have both G2X and Pyramid, coming from an Nexus One I love the form factor of the HTC Sensation. Right now the G2X has a huge advantage (CM7 within two weeks of release), but (if/when) the Sensation is unlocked and custom roms are avail (Sense removed). I think "for me", the HTC Pyramid 4G will be the perfect phone.
Most suprising aspect of comparison is that the Sensation and G2x are almost identical in physical size
meh...
The sceen on the sensation unit I played with was crap. Washed out blacks and dull color compared to the G2x. I compared both screens using the app drawer (looking at black levels and icons) and viewing several web sites with brightness at 25, 50 and 100%. Even the rep was surprised. Combined with a very slow Internet and a weak cpu and gpu, you can keep it.
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Great review! Thanks.
I went to the mall yesterday and held one in my hands. Looked awesome. One thing that stood out was that when I scrolled through the apps in the app drawer, not only did they seem jerky as they scrolled, but they didn't "fling" as well. Seemed to move perfectly in time with my swipe. Seemed to take several swipes to go through the short stack of icons. Not a deal breaker or even a real concern, but sure seemed noticable. Any comment on that?
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I think you might be referring to page scroll in the new Sense. When you fling through the app drawer it moves by pages and will not let you fling to the bottom with one flick. It gets annoying if you have a lot of apps but if you throw on a different launcher, it acts like every other app drawer on Android.
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Thank you for your review. I had similar perceptions after playing around with a Sensation. The browser didn't perform as well as you have indicated on the unit I used. It was an in store unit so who knows what may have been done with it though. I decided to stick with my ROMed G2X and wait out the update.
I typically have 260-270 free on my G2x after a reboot though I'm not running stock. It really shouldn't matter on GB though as it should be dynamically controlled, giving and taking as needed.
The internal storage is a larger deal for those without a decent size and speed Micro SD card. If not for using it to transfer large work files to and from home I could probably do without an external card on the G2X. A couple gameloft games on the Sensation and you'll be out of space in short order. I could see this being quite annoying for some people.
It is going to be interesting to see what happens with both devices as development continues on each device. The G2X is waiting for the GB update and the Sensation is waiting for HTC to unlock the bootloader (I think?).
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Yea, it could have been that the store model wasn't connected to a fast WiFi/4G signal. I tested both the G2X and the Sensation on my cocktail table about 5 feet from my router. The store model also probably suffered from the hanging data bug as well. Here is the fix for that. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118017
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Great review! Thanks.
I went to the mall yesterday and held one in my hands. Looked awesome. One thing that stood out was that when I scrolled through the apps in the app drawer, not only did they seem jerky as they scrolled, but they didn't "fling" as well. Seemed to move perfectly in time with my swipe. Seemed to take several swipes to go through the short stack of icons. Not a deal breaker or even a real concern, but sure seemed noticable. Any comment on that?
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That's because the sensation's app drawer goes page by page. Its not jerky. Its how they have tweaked it.
jcbofkc said:
meh...
The sceen on the sensation unit I played with was crap. Washed out blacks and dull color compared to the G2x. I compared both screens using the app drawer (looking at black levels and icons) and viewing several web sites with brightness at 25, 50 and 100%. Even the rep was surprised. Combined with a very slow Internet and a weak cpu and gpu, you can keep it.
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You must have played with a faulty unit because mine are sitting on the table right in front of me, set to 100% brightness with the app drawer on both and it's actually quite obvious the icons on the Sensation are sharper/more colorful and the background is darker than on the G2X. I don't know if my DSLR will pick up the darker black on the Sensation since it's such a small difference but I can tell you right now. If I took a picture of them sitting next to each other, you would see the difference in color of the icons and clarity of the icon text. A picture would definitely show, that the Sensation's icons are in fact sharper, more colorful and more vibrant. They just appear to POP more.
I'll post a picture when I get home from work so we can put this argument to rest.
I have played with the Sensation. G2x beats the screen on it by a landslide in terms of color reproduction and black levels. I am still going to try and replace the phone for a Sensation though.
nice review dude
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You must have played with a faulty unit because mine are sitting on the table right in front of me, set to 100% brightness with the app drawer on both and it's actually quite obvious the icons on the Sensation are sharper/more colorful and the background is darker than on the G2X. I don't know if my DSLR will pick up the darker black on the Sensation since it's such a small difference but I can tell you right now. If I took a picture of them sitting next to each other, you would see the difference in color of the icons and clarity of the icon text. A picture would definitely show, that the Sensation's icons are in fact sharper, more colorful and more vibrant. They just appear to POP more.
I'll post a picture when I get home from work so we can put this argument to rest.
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I've seen quite a few people post about their Sensation screen looking washed out. The one I saw at T-mobile looked a little washed out to me. I think this is similar to the G2x bleed problem. Some of the units have a problem and some don't. For instance my G2x has absolutely no screen bleed at all but my girlfriends has a slight amount at the top. You probably got a good Sensation where as some of these people that are complaining didn't.
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meh...
The sceen on the sensation unit I played with was crap. Washed out blacks and dull color compared to the G2x. I compared both screens using the app drawer (looking at black levels and icons) and viewing several web sites with brightness at 25, 50 and 100%. Even the rep was surprised. Combined with a very slow Internet and a weak cpu and gpu, you can keep it.
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I noticed the same thing. I was kinda perplexed at the OP's review. The screen on the Sensation looks washed out. Colors were not crisp. Speedtest was almost twice as slow as the G2x. Maybe we tested a defective unit?
I've had the N1 for a long time now. My biggest complaint that I can't deal with anymore is the touch screen. I've been eyeing the Sensation for awhile now. For those of you that upgraded from the N1 did you regret it? What are you're thoughts on the Sensation compared to the N1. Other than the obvious unlocked boot loader.
I've heard there are touch screen issues are these as severe as the N1's?
The nexus one had touchscreen issues?
If you used to fingers and crossed axis it would get confused left to right making it almost impossible to play games using virtual controllers. Intermittantly they will wig out and lose touch screen calibration. You would touch one part and it would read it almost a half inch off. Only work around for the calibration is to lock the screen than unlock it. This is what's driving me nuts.
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The nexus one had touchscreen issues?
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lawl.
Anyway, I came from a nexus one and I haven't had any touchscreen issues with my sensation. Personally im very happy with the phone so far. The only complaint I have so far is I really miss my trackball notifications, and of course the locked bootloader (but in time the second will change). Other then those, I cant really think of anything else.
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If you used to fingers and crossed axis it would get confused left to right making it almost impossible to play games using virtual controllers. Intermittantly they will wig out and lose touch screen calibration. You would touch one part and it would read it almost a half inch off. Only work around for the calibration is to lock the screen than unlock it. This is what's driving me nuts.
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yeah, the sensation has proper multitouch too, no more cross axis issues.
I had the awesome nexus one with very few issues and I haven't had any touchscreen issues with my Sensation! Just some lag in Sense...
I have since given my cherished n1 to my wife. She just wants my games lol....
Yes the touchscreen works finally but besides that I would wait until the bootloader is unlocked. I jumped in because of the 148 price at wally mart. Compared to what I had initially paid for the N1, I think upgrading to this baby is worth it for the price.
Do I miss my N1? Sure do, like the others said, trackball alert was a big thing for me. I miss looking across the room to see if I had missed a call or not from my charger. Also miss the weekly MIUI updates. Since the sensation, I haven't updated miui and I heard the lockscreen has been changed a bit from the normal ones. Makes me want to grab the n1 and start flashing the sucker....maybe just out of withdrawal lol....
The positives is that the phone looks and sounds great. Besides the low speaker volume in speakerphone mode and some other issues like the gallery and video quirks some users have come across. Do not get me wrong, I do NOT regret this phone at all. I just wish the s-off comes already lol.
I don't know if its just me, but the app icons @ the sence homescreen looks blurry, not sharp, NOT GOOD. The lockscreen and the app drawer icons look good & sharp but not in the homescreen for some reason. Plus, theres no black bar behind the icon label text, so its very hard to read the text when having a bright wallpaper.. not that its anything necessary, but it simply looks like ****. Pretty much any other launcher has sharp looking app icons and runs smooth, but I kinda want the Sence widgets etc.
Overall I think the phone UI isn't smooth for ****, I mean, my brothers Desire HD is way more smooth and is powered by a single core cpu (stock rom, no clock or root). Feels like I both hate and love the phone at the same time, HTC really need to shape the phone software up or back it goes!
Have you checked to see what type of screen you have? AUO or Sharp? Check out this thread
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I don't know if its just me, but the app icons @ the sence homescreen looks blurry, not sharp, NOT GOOD. The lockscreen and the app drawer icons look good & sharp but not in the homescreen for some reason. Plus, theres no black bar behind the icon label text, so its very hard to read the text when having a bright wallpaper.. not that its anything necessary, but it simply looks like ****. Pretty much any other launcher has sharp looking app icons and runs smooth, but I kinda want the Sence widgets etc.
Overall I think the phone UI isn't smooth for ****, I mean, my brothers Desire HD is way more smooth and is powered by a single core cpu (stock rom, no clock or root). Feels like I both hate and love the phone at the same time, HTC really need to shape the phone software up or back it goes!
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Yes, I posted this a while back, the home screen icons ARE INDEED blurry, (and the bottom bar has jagged edges, and the side of the screen has a 4 pixel black bar that problably noone has noticed(but I just found at it was because my sharp screen has a 544*960 resolution, maybe the auo has 540?)) you are not insane, I suppose sence 3,0 wasnt well finished to match the resolution.
Anyone in doubt, add an icon in the home screen, and look at that same icon in the drawer or inside a folder, MUCH SHARPER
The bottom bar being all jagged does bother me at times, but it's no big deal. No blurryness of icons for me. I have a Sharp panel.
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The bottom bar being all jagged does bother me at times, but it's no big deal. No blurryness of icons for me. I have a Sharp panel.
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I have shqrp oanel too, i had 4 sensations, all had blurry icons and so do you and every one else, the blurryness is very very imperceptible, it is something that most people wontnotice. But you do sligbtlykotice it when you compare a homescreen icon with the same onein theapp drawer. Try it with the "people" app,again its very faint, be happy you dontse it
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I have shqrp oanel too, i had 4 sensations, all had blurry icons and so do you and every one else, the blurryness is very very imperceptible, it is something that most people wontnotice. But you do sligbtlykotice it when you compare a homescreen icon with the same onein theapp drawer. Try it with the "people" app,again its very faint, be happy you dontse it
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Haha I don't want to compare because it'll be another thing that's going to start bugging me and will deter me from enjoy the phone. Ignorance is bliss.
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Haha I don't want to compare because it'll be another thing that's going to start bugging me and will deter me from enjoy the phone. Ignorance is bliss.
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Hehe, when i got my first sensation, it is the first thing that I noticed, and i was the first one that bothered me, that and the jaggies.
Then i had to send it back 4 times for various hardware reasons, not, the very faint blur doesnt bother me at all, compared to the rest.
I also think that being software, it isnt a problem and can be fixed.
I too wish I didnt see that stuff lol, all my RL friends, relations, the whole world around me, dont seem to care about this kind of stuff. Except people here on XDA, do we have a desease lol?
My GF desire HD has one of her 4 capactive buttons, the menu one, spelling out mEnu with a capital e instead and the rest normal letters, that is the kind of crap that drives me mad lol
My worst pet peeve used to be dead pixels and scratches. now phones are Gorilla glass, and pixels are so small you have a hard time seeing them if they are dead., So lord all mighty decided to put dust, fuzzy speaker, and various other problems in my phone to make up for it.
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I don't know if its just me, but the app icons @ the sence homescreen looks blurry, not sharp, NOT GOOD. The lockscreen and the app drawer icons look good & sharp but not in the homescreen for some reason. Plus, theres no black bar behind the icon label text, so its very hard to read the text when having a bright wallpaper.. not that its anything necessary, but it simply looks like ****. Pretty much any other launcher has sharp looking app icons and runs smooth, but I kinda want the Sence widgets etc.
Overall I think the phone UI isn't smooth for ****, I mean, my brothers Desire HD is way more smooth and is powered by a single core cpu (stock rom, no clock or root). Feels like I both hate and love the phone at the same time, HTC really need to shape the phone software up or back it goes!
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I've done a lot of comparing with icons on my homescreen and the icons in my app drawer and I see zero difference personally. Maybe something is going on with a portion of the panels.... As for the black box behind the text, HTC removed it in Sense 3.0 for some reason.
I'm coming from the Inspire 4G (US version of Desire HD) and the reason its so much smoother is because in Sense 2.0/2.1 there is a WHOLE lot less going on in the system compared to Sense 3.0. I personally deal with some lag also. I promise once we get S-OFF and we are able to flash custom ROMs, things will get a million times better. All the chefs and devs will tweak the stock ROM to fly on the Sensation and it will be a night and day difference once its perfected. We will get a lot of awesome devs coming to this phone for that specific reason .
My icons were blurry on Sense but ADW fixed everything as usual. HTC really needs to go back to the drawing board with Sense. I don't understand why everyone praises Sense so much. It has to much eye candy, can't change the **** icons and ITS SLOW!
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I've done a lot of comparing with icons on my homescreen and the icons in my app drawer and I see zero difference personally. Maybe something is going on with a portion of the panels.... As for the black box behind the text, HTC removed it in Sense 3.0 for some reason.
I'm coming from the Inspire 4G (US version of Desire HD) and the reason its so much smoother is because in Sense 2.0/2.1 there is a WHOLE lot less going on in the system compared to Sense 3.0. I personally deal with some lag also. I promise once we get S-OFF and we are able to flash custom ROMs, things will get a million times better. All the chefs and devs will tweak the stock ROM to fly on the Sensation and it will be a night and day difference once its perfected. We will get a lot of awesome devs coming to this phone for that specific reason .
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I personally strongly believe that you just dont see it (no insulting or anything), but it is there, i mean it really is not like its all blurry, but maybe recroped by a pixel line.
It is not hardware, the screen isnt a problem, it is just on the homescreen, which is why i KNOW every one has it, or...there are multiple sense version out there.
HTC just hurried sense 3,0 out and its obvious (to me anyway) but I dont mind it all that much now
Maybe it's just me, but after upgrading to 2.3.4...the icons on the home screen don't look blurry anymore. Can someone else check?
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I personally strongly believe that you just dont see it (no insulting or anything), but it is there, i mean it really is not like its all blurry, but maybe recroped by a pixel line.
It is not hardware, the screen isnt a problem, it is just on the homescreen, which is why i KNOW every one has it, or...there are multiple sense version out there.
HTC just hurried sense 3,0 out and its obvious (to me anyway) but I dont mind it all that much now
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Exactly, it's a sense problem, everyone has it, with some icons/colours it's a little difficult to spot, but it's always there, but I thought it was fixed with the 1.45, someone here mentioned that it did.
EDIT : and the above post seems to confirm it.
Think more along the lines of "slight soft focus" rather than blurry, I wonder if it's where they've pulled things over from previous sense versions and not rejigged it for 540x960
I have blurry icons and text too in desktop. Also that bottom bar doesnt have smooth border. This is Sense issue, because other launchers shows perfect fonts.
This is annoying too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYH4Y4zo4cM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e53S8hR1eg
Dude.. Get your eye sight checked by ophthalmologist... Not kidding...
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Dude.. Get your eye sight checked by ophthalmologist... Not kidding...
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Duuude, that bottom bar image in default theme is scaled wrong in Sensation, Sense 3.0, its fixed in 3.5. And dude, sensation has two differend screens, Acer and Sharp. Acer screen has these issues.
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First off I'd like to thank h8rift for his amazing port of CM10 to the One XL.
As an experiment, I wanted to test the battery with the screen on at all times and this phone just would not die. I stopped at 15%, but I probably could have hit 9 hours screen time if I let drain a bit more.
For reference, I didn't have mobile data connected as I was on Wi-Fi the entire time. Limited use of the phone, as you can see by the processes.
I am fairly new to whole rooting/unlocking/flashing aspect of Android, but boy am I glad I took the jump.
Looks amazing tho what Rom is it?
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So you turned your screen on and let it sit for 17 hours? Not really a "true" benchmark of battery but impressive none the less. Go post this in the battery thread and troll on all the other phones' battery thread saying the HOX is superior
You didn't even use the phone. I can leave my screen on overnight too and see 8 hours screen time. That's hardly "insane" or thread worthy for that matter.
Quit hatin guys....have you had a previous device that could do this? I haven't.
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I agree.. I just got the phone as well.. I traded my Samsung Galaxy S3 in for this phone.. and I'm beginning to regret my decision, I could leave the Galaxy off like this guy did and get 1 day 11 hours and 13 mins, obviously from time to time just checking the basics like if I've missed a call or new messages.. and I am happy with that.. but this phone I try doing the same usage and I can get the 11 hours, but not the extra day of usage.. so I'm really disappointed in my decision so far.. this weekend when I get paid again, I'm probably going to trade it back in for the SGS3 .. I love Sense, and I love the update to 4.0.4 Software version 2.20.502.7 It made the phone a hell of a lot more usable in day to day usage.. but it's still not enough to trump the SGS3..
However, if someone can give me good reasons to convince me to stick with the 1X please feel free, it'll save me another $100.. lol.. :laugh:
Yea battery life is important, I was gonna get Galaxy note but instead I got one x... Lol da battery life isn't that significant..
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I agree.. I just got the phone as well.. I traded my Samsung Galaxy S3 in for this phone.. and I'm beginning to regret my decision, I could leave the Galaxy off like this guy did and get 1 day 11 hours and 13 mins, obviously from time to time just checking the basics like if I've missed a call or new messages.. and I am happy with that.. but this phone I try doing the same usage and I can get the 11 hours, but not the extra day of usage.. so I'm really disappointed in my decision so far.. this weekend when I get paid again, I'm probably going to trade it back in for the SGS3 .. I love Sense, and I love the update to 4.0.4 Software version 2.20.502.7 It made the phone a hell of a lot more usable in day to day usage.. but it's still not enough to trump the SGS3..
However, if someone can give me good reasons to convince me to stick with the 1X please feel free, it'll save me another $100.. lol.. :laugh:
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I find it odd you're getting better battery life on the S3 than on the One X, since almost everyone seems to find them fairly comparable. I assume you have the exact same apps installed on both?
Yeah, I'm very specific.. there are certain apps i can't live without and theme-ing i love looking at... I hear it's due to the optimization of the UI.. but I use Nova Launcher anyways.. so it shouldn't really matter.. but I think it has to do with how fast the phones put themselves into "Dormancy mode".. but who knows. well.. other than actual "Developers".. lol.
But I'm can't help but notice the minor differences between the 2 phones.. like another that I just got fed up with is the fact that this phone appears to've been made for Right handers, I'm a lefty, and I can just notice the differences, but anyhow. enough about the phones little foibles ..
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I just got fed up with is the fact that this phone appears to've been made for Right handers, I'm a lefty, and I can just notice the differences
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That's quite possibly the dumbest thing I've seen said on these forums about the one X. I'm lefty, it works perfect. Fyi, most of the world is right handed.
I'm right handed
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Sense is a battery hog. Everyone knows it and HTC have done things to lessen the strain on the battery but a SG3 with an extended battery and an aosp ROM is going to give better battery life. That is just a fact. Is the extra battery life worth giving up a way better screen and form factor...that's up to each person. I would rather have the one X.
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That's quite possibly the dumbest thing I've seen said on these forums about the one X. I'm lefty, it works perfect. Fyi, most of the world is right handed.
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Dude that's hilarious.. Even I had to laugh at that.. I know it sounds dumb, but if you look at where everything is, in comparison to the SGS3. Try holding the 1X with your left hand and try pressing the Volume rockers, or the Power button.. It's awkward to do,.. And Yes, I completely agree that the majority of the world are Right handed.. but even Apple got it right, try Google-ing the photo for the iPhone Guess what hand they are holding the phone with.. lol.. :silly: j/k but honestly..I do like the phone.. I'm just trying to justify trading the phone back in for the SGS3 to myself, and also pointing out certain things I've noticed.. trust me.. I did the same thing with the SGS3 right before I got rid of it.. I came up with any excuse to get rid of it, and now I want it back.. goes to show you, "Some people just don't know what they really want." ha ha..
Now see I'm a lefty....and I have to disagree here..
Obviously everything is made for righties...but honestly try holding the phone in your right hand and try to hit the power button....I can't do it.
In my left hand it fits perfect so my thumb is on the upper left side and index finger is perfectly aligned to hit the power button. In this same position my middle and ring finger line up perfect for the volume rockers.
Maybe I've just adapted to a righties world....but the hox gives me no issues at all...
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Now see I'm a lefty....and I have to disagree here..
Obviously everything is made for righties...but honestly try holding the phone in your right hand and try to hit the power button....I can't do it.
In my left hand it fits perfect so my thumb is on the upper left side and index finger is perfectly aligned to hit the power button. In this same position my middle and ring finger line up perfect for the volume rockers.
Maybe I've just adapted to a righties world....but the hox gives me no issues at all...
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Ah, okay, I see how you're holding it.. and yes that does help, up until you actually start scrolling around or texting on the phone and you have to reposition your hands, and that's fine, once you get accustomed to that method.. I'll have to give that a shot for the next couple of days..
Like I said, I'm trying to give this phone a real shot.. so I appreciate all the comments and suggestions..
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Ah, okay, I see how you're holding it.. and yes that does help, up until you actually start scrolling around or texting on the phone and you have to reposition your hands, and that's fine, once you get accustomed to that method.. I'll have to give that a shot for the next couple of days..
Like I said, I'm trying to give this phone a real shot.. so I appreciate all the comments and suggestions..
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NP! Glad I could help!
Now when it comes to scrolling...I use my right hand on the right side...thumb under the bottom right corner,middle finger on top right, index finger used for screen interactions for where left hand won't reach...
The same time on the left side I have my index on top left and the rest resting on the back of the device and use my left thumb for scrolling and clicking what I can't reach I use my index from the right...or I'll take my left hand completely off and support it with my right thumb and middle finger and use my left index to scroll etc
Hope that was somewhat useful!
once I need to type a lot I'll switch to landscape usually which is a whole new ball game.
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So wait, if you're left handed you should hold the phone with your left? I'm right handed and hold the phone usually always in my right hand.
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Relevant.
Getting back to the original purpose of this thread, I also have seen major battery life increases on CM10. I set 192MHz/1242MHz as my min/max processor speeds, and Ondemand as the CPU governor. With this setup I never get below 50% after a full day out without charging. Admittedly, I use my phone mostly for audio, so the screen isn't on as much as some other people. Even so, CM10 is a marked improvement over any Sense-based ROM. I don't know if I'll ever go back to any ROM that isn't AOSP based!
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But I'm can't help but notice the minor differences between the 2 phones.. like another that I just got fed up with is the fact that this phone appears to've been made for Right handers, I'm a lefty, and I can just notice the differences, but anyhow. enough about the phones little foibles ..
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........What? This is not true, i use the phone and i'm a lefty (otherwise mainly right handed.. not sure why :-/)
Anyways, i've never had problems handling this phone with my left hand, in fact, i can only handle it with my left hand :-/