A Question for any Charge owner - Verizon Droid Charge

I am making the switch to Verizon this weekend (before the data cap is implemented) and want to confirm that you can make a call and surf data at the same time. If so, can it be done on 3g and 4g, one of them, or not at all.
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Just tested my Charge on 4g and yes it can make calls/browse the web at the same time, it seems flawless as well, no lag in the call(tested with my house phone so i could hear the difference) and the browser didn't seem to stutter or slow down.
I'll test 3g for ya just let me figure out how to set it to 3g only... I'll get back to you

Thanks. I thought it was normal that most, if not all 3g phones could do both, but I read somewhere that the Charge couldn't. I thought that to be really weird.
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Blaqhawk said:
I am making the switch to Verizon this weekend (before the data cap is implemented) and want to confirm that you can make a call and surf data at the same time. If so, can it be done on 3g and 4g, one of them, or not at all.
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Sadly it doesn't work on 3g haven't tested it on 4g, but I believe it doesn't have the same radio as per say the Thunderbolt(which will do dual voice and data on 3g).
Anyways hope that helps.

I guess I should have also asked if you are stock or running a custom ROM. There are two conflicting comments here. One said yes and the other says no.
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Blaqhawk said:
I guess I should have also asked if you are stock or running a custom ROM. There are two conflicting comments here. One said yes and the other says no.
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Well you can check my sig, I'm definitely rooted and it works on 4g so far(haven't tested 3g) but I was checking out a bunch of reviews before I bought the phone and I remember one of them said it was capable of surfing the web while making calls so I'm fairly certain stock can do it, also when I was checking the kernel/ROM info none of them said "Added the ability to call/browse the web simultaneously" or something like that, if not it's incredibly easy to root, this was my first smartphone and I rooted it within the first 4 hours of getting the phone out of the box

Blaqhawk said:
I am making the switch to Verizon this weekend (before the data cap is implemented) and want to confirm that you can make a call and surf data at the same time. If so, can it be done on 3g and 4g, one of them, or not at all.
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Only works on 4g.
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That kind of sucks since I won't see 4g for a while on my area. I will have to think about that.
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I just got the droid charge 2 days ago, totally stock no root or anything, havent even got a new app yet. I can be on a call and surf the web and it works fine. 3g area

Setting the record straight:
The Charge will NOT do voice and data at the same time over 3G, unless you have wifi on.
The Charge WILL do voice and data at the same time over 4G.

Welcome to a CDMA network, only phone that can do Simultaneous Voice and Data over CDMA is the thunderbolt, every other phone can NOT do it iPhone, Android, WP7 doesn't matter. 4G allows you to do it because voice still goes over the 1x network, and data is coming over the LTE network. CDMA does not allow simultaneous sessions unless it is an SVDO-CDMA like the Thunderbolt is.

Interesting, thank you for the explanation.
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Web browsing while on talking on the phone...why not possible?

Can someone tell me why is not possible or whether it is possible to browse the web while talking on the phone with Android.
Thanks!
P.S. I have a Droid Incredible...rooted...running MIUI rom ;-)
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I can with my Droid X, with any rom.
Verizon iPhone can't
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MUNDO23 said:
Verizon iPhone can't
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That's limitations on Verizon's network, not the Iphone. There isn't a whole lot of phones on Verizon you can talk and surf the web at the same time.
I can on my desire, but tend to drop my coffee as I'm driving my car though.
Desire is the source of all suffering.
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It's pretty bad. I know that much. I had an original Droid before on Verizon, but I got tired of paying so much for so little.
Got ears in your mouth now?
Awesome.
I had the dinc and was able to browse the web while talking on the fone just fine via wifi
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I had the dinc and was able to browse the web while talking on the fone just fine via wifi
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That's a different story. You're not using your mobile network for data at that time, just for calling.
CDMA doesn't allow the use of data and voice at the same time. They use CDMA for calls and EV-DO for data.
AT&T and TMobile are the able to because they use GSM vs. Sprint and Verizon's CDMA. It has nothing to do with the phones.
I do it all the time. On my RootedHTCDesireZ
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I mean seriously when does one surf the web and talk same time?
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LOL way to funny
As stated above, the inability to use both voice and data at the same time is a limitation of a CDMA network (Verizon). It has nothing to do with the phone. Because of this, if you want to do voice and data at the same time, the only way of doing so, is via WiFi, so that your "data" can be done through WiFi as opposed to the carrier network.
But honestly, how often do you really need both at the same time? I consider myself to be a fairly heavy power user on my phone, and still rarely run into a situation where I need both at the same time.
Luckily for you though, Verizon's 4G (LTE) does have the ability to do voice and data at the same time.
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AT&T and TMobile are the able to because they use GSM vs. Sprint and Verizon's CDMA. It has nothing to do with the phones.
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canadariot2312 said:
CDMA doesn't allow the use of data and voice at the same time. They use CDMA for calls and EV-DO for data.
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As stated above, the inability to use both voice and data at the same time is a limitation of a CDMA network (Verizon). It has nothing to do with the phone. Because of this, if you want to do voice and data at the same time, the only way of doing so, is via WiFi, so that your "data" can be done through WiFi as opposed to the carrier network.
But honestly, how often do you really need both at the same time? I consider myself to be a fairly heavy power user on my phone, and still rarely run into a situation where I need both at the same time.
Luckily for you though, Verizon's 4G (LTE) does have the ability to do voice and data at the same time.
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Bingo. "4G" (LTE and WiMax, as well as HSPA+) will allow you to do it for. Also, being on Wifi will let you do it.
But I mean, I don't understand why people want to do both at the same time anyways.
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But I mean, I don't understand why people want to do both at the same time anyways.
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I would have thought the same a few weeks ago but the other day I was calling a friend (I was on speaker) and needed to search on the web something that we were talking about. Impossible. That's how I understood that it could be useful to be able to do the two things at the same time
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If I'm tethering (because my client has a locked down network I can't get on with my laptop) and talking to my boss (weekly meeting), I may need to look things up.
I've done that and simply been looking things up while on my headset with my wife....
dinc2010 said:
Can someone tell me why is not possible or whether it is possible to browse the web while talking on the phone with Android.
Thanks!
P.S. I have a Droid Incredible...rooted...running MIUI rom ;-)
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3g cdma networks can not do voice & data simultaneously. if you have wifi on and are on a call/the phone, then you can(i can). if you have a 4g connection and are on a call/the phone, you can(i can)

Will do data and voice over 3g

Both phandroid and Droid life have confirmed that this phone will not only do data and voice over 4g but 3g as well. Yeah! Just another thing to be excited about
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No. simultaneous data and voice is not possible over cdma. They are both wrong. What might happen is voice will go over cdma and data over lte or both will transmit over lte. If you live in an area without lte, you are out of luck.
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how is it possible?
since the new iPhone 4 will do it apperntly they have figured out a way to do it, and you guys only think its not possible because thats what verizon has aalways said, and ven if it doesnt, who the hell cares, who wants to talk and look at the web at the same time
What should work and should not and why (I work on the network)
Ok, I am an engineer working on VZW's network, as well as in the past worked on GSM stuff as well. The reason that VZW could not do voice and data at the same time is because CDMA voice, 1xRTT data, 2G voice, 3G voice, EVDO REV0 and REVA all use the same channel groupes. VZW uses channels 283, 242, 201, 160, 78, 37, and 1019 in the 800 A Band, and with Alltel Acquisition now has 466, 548, 589, and so fourth, the PCS spectrum is abundant too. The LTE is on 700 mhz so uses a different set of radios so could in theory run it at the same time as voice since it would use the other radios to do it. Thats the reason it can work but if they write the software to do it is another thing. They might not because of battery life, would be like running 2 phones off the same battery at the same time. The iPhone will not do it because it will not be LTE ;-)
You could be entirely right as I'm not an engineer for Verizon so I'm not sure, just going off of info based on what I believe I read on one of the android blogs. You can actually talk and surf at the same time. All you need is speakerphobe or headphones ans I wifi connection lol. But I'm pretty sure that anyone on these forums knows that;-)
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I don't know how exactly, but I've been told that you will be able to do simultaneous voice and data on 3g but they are not advertising it because you can only use 1X data.
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cant be done
Haha again I believe you. But I know a little dirt secret if you are close to a wifi router.
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great news this is awesome. Suck it ATT!
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CAN be done
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Fixed your quote for you, one word SVDO.
I wonder if they're doing VOIP trick so they are techinally only doing data alone.
There's nothing prevent HTC from directing the phone dialer through their own VOIP applicaiton.
Also, the iPhone on verizon will not be doing simultaneous voice/data.
So, this is like when you are talking to someone on the phone, you are able to look up stuff like on Maps and all that right?
If Its what I am thinking of..I am able to do that on my Eris(albeit, it is rooted..but..)
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Fixed your quote for you, one word SVDO.
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That's a pretty fancy trick. Run the voice call on the 1X and leave the EVDO open for the data...I like it.
I hate to tell u this but I can almost promise you that your Eris can only do it when your wifi is on. I have a rooted Eris in my hand running kaos froyo as we speak, it will NOT do it unless wifi is on.
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I hate to tell u this but I can almost promise you that your Eris can only do it when your wifi is on. I have a rooted Eris in my hand running kaos froyo as we speak, it will NOT do it unless wifi is on.
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You in the wrong forum by any chance? We're talking about the Thundebolt here not the Droid Eris.
He was probably referring to my post
and yes I know that.
Family Guy: I was referring to your post, I just had a huge argument with a Guy in the Eris forums about this exact issue. He insisted that kaos froyo would do both. I insisted that there Is nothing that kaos could do or anyone else to make data and voice work over 3g on any Verizon phone that is currently being sold. And he insisted that his Eris would. I asked him if his wifi was on, he insisted that wifi and 3g wouldn't run at the same time. Anyway, this went on for like 20 private messages and I finally agreed that he has the only Verizon EVER Has ever sold. It could be worth millions. Again, sorry if I sound like a ****. No harm intended. Can't wait for the ****ing thunderbolt.
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Oh thats hilarious!
Yeah. You will see the Guy I ended up going through the argument with in one ofbthe kaos threads. It all started with him saying that his rooted Eris smoke his all his friends DInc's and lets be honest, if u have ever played with both, you know that's not an accurate statement. On a positive note, you guys check out some YouTube videos of the second Gen. Snapdragon processors, damn!!! They were smoking!!! There is a video on android forums or phone arena with the thunderbolt getting a 2150 with no task killer and that's pretty damn good. I know the entire stigma aelround benchmarks as I've been around here for a while(700+ post) but it takes a fast phone to get that without a "lagfix" synthetically driving up scores
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tethering......busted....

Recieved a text from my wireless carrier stating that my tethering would be cut off or I can pay an additional $30 or so per month. I think it came down to me downloading the OS for an iphone 3gs I've been playing with. Last month I ended up with around 10gb of data usage.
Tried tethering after the deadline date and was directed to a site, stating I need to call customer service. I also tried using data on my phone at this point and was directed to the same site. Call customer service and was told to access their data I would need to give them my phones serial number. go figure.... after the past two years of playing with various phones, nexus one, vibrant, hd2, iphone 4, iphone 3gs, nexus s.... they want to know what Im using .....
Solution????
a different android phone again, with tethering.
or
drop my sim card into my iphone 3gs for a few hours and switch back to the mytouch 4g
DUDE
T-m0 said that?...
ok one are you using hotspots...if so stop im sure thats how they are monitoring your data...
try one of these
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
i personally use
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list?can=2&q=Stable
try one of these it should help
otherwise call t-m0 and tell em #&***& 2^^ with a *!!!! !#*(& in your !(*&$*( so they$&!!!
and they understand fine
Seeing as how you are getting the same site from the phone browser and the computer browser, it seems they just assume, not know you are tethering. The hold should go off after your billing month is up. If not, well do they know you have a smart phone, or are you using it on a feature phone plan? If it is the later, then giving them a smart phone serial will probably make them change your plan to a smart phone plan.
I heard if you use the stock tethering app they charge you... what if you use the one that's built into CM 7? isn't that the same as using android-wifi-teather? I was always unclear about that
Well I have been using mytouch 4g and were using the original tether option and now I'm using cm7.never have had any problems.
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witeboy07 said:
Well I have been using mytouch 4g and were using the original tether option and now I'm using cm7.never have had any problems.
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Well for lite usage you won't have problem. But if you are using bandwidth excessively they will notice it and based on using DPI/SPI techniques they can determine which service and protocol is being used. They would never want people to use free bandwidth when they can get people to pay money for same exact thing. Talk about milking the cow for all its worth lol.
Before the mytouch I had a hd7 and before that the first 4g I had was the g2..download were massive and big..never got caught...I was always using the stock T-Mobile tether option..I guess cus I'm on an old unlimited android web plan...
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Yes I did milk it, downloading the os for the iphone probably did it, will wait till cycle is over and do basic tethering again. Im going to my iphone and switch back to see if that works as well.
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T-m0 said that?...
ok one are you using hotspots...if so stop im sure thats how they are monitoring your data...
try one of these
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
i personally use
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list?can=2&q=Stable
try one of these it should help
otherwise call t-m0 and tell em #&***& 2^^ with a *!!!! !#*(& in your !(*&$*( so they$&!!!
and they understand fine
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tried the other iphone and switch back , no luck . Im on cm7, and have been for awhile, tethered for over a year and now its being stopped. What are the links to and which one do I need for the mytouch? As for carrier its a local one , cbw,
Just got the text. Now down to edge less speeds
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paczek said:
Just got the text. Now down to edge less speeds
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Edge has a speed? What? Oh yea, Slow . I can't do anything on edge other than check email
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tried the other iphone and switch back , no luck . Im on cm7, and have been for awhile, tethered for over a year and now its being stopped. What are the links to and which one do I need for the mytouch? As for carrier its a local one , cbw,
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I downloaded 2.07 and it seems to work. Temp-Rooted.
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Edge has a speed? What? Oh yea, Slow . I can't do anything on edge other than check email
I downloaded 2.07 and it seems to work. Temp-Rooted.
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Yes I do use the tethering hotpsot often for internet at home. I downloaded the app you recommend, will test it out for awhile to see if itll make a difference and still allow me to tether.
I'm having conflicting information put my way about tethering. Is T-Mobile charging for using the WiFi Tether feature in froyo, or are they charging for the Wired Tether feature.
I can't even get a straight answer from store reps or customer service. It's like they don't even know themselves.
Trying to basically find out if I need to go back to using barnacle.
Update-June 1: If you have a Android data package Tethering is FREE.
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RootUserDWR said:
I'm having conflicting information put my way about tethering. Is T-Mobile charging for using the WiFi Tether feature in froyo, or are they charging for the Wired Tether feature.
I can't even get a straight answer from store reps or customer service. It's like they don't even know themselves.
Trying to basically find out if I need to go back to using barnacle.
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I'm not with tmobile, I have been using android phones for over a year plus, starting with the nexus one. I have always been tethering and kept my data around 5-6gbs per month. Last month I hit the 11 or 12gb mark, and within the first week of the new month I was already up to 3.5gbs. Mainly from downloading the Iphone OS, and other tools I needed.
Over the past year, I never once was charged for tethering nor was I warned about it. You shouldn't need to worry about tethering with tmobile, if you hit the 5gb of data they will cut your speeds. I download the tethering app from the first page of this post, and it seems to be working fine as of now.
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I'm having conflicting information put my way about tethering. Is T-Mobile charging for using the WiFi Tether feature in froyo, or are they charging for the Wired Tether feature.
I can't even get a straight answer from store reps or customer service. It's like they don't even know themselves.
Trying to basically find out if I need to go back to using barnacle.
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Yea. I've wondered this as well. I wonder at what point they charge us for tethering and how they prove it. Staying around that 5gb per month.
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[Could be my phone only] This phone has some serious problems!!! :(

Phone was fine, sleeping. Tried waking up and nothing. Tried again nothing. So I figured crap it's shut itself off and won't turn on. So battery pull and turned it back on. Then boom! Get's to the T-Mobile G2X logo and then just freezes there. WTF???
For a while I thought that was it, I pulled battery yet again.
Turned back on and now it booted up ok. WTF is going on with this? I've never seen these type of issues with other phones. What could cause this? Almost seems like a hardware issue because I used it all day today for about 10h with no issues.
So I got the phone at 4PM yesterday.
- Worked fine from 4PM - 11PM. I rebooted myself. Started up fine and then rebooted at 11:30PM
- Worked fine rest of night and went to bed at 2AM...was charging all night, woke up and used it fine. 8:30AM rebooted.
- Used it all day at work and no issue. Was using it while walking the dog at like 6PMish and boom reboot.
- Used it since 6PM and then it just did the hard lock/screen off thing that required 2 battery pulls to revive it.
Before this last what is essentially a crash, I had GPS turned off so that didn't help. I've turned it back on.
In all these situations I had WiFi calling enabled so I'm now trying with WiFi calling disabled and see if I still have issues.
I'm giving this phone a week because I love it so much but if I can't get it stable it's going back and I'll have to go back to VZW and my Incredible. Major bummer
Have none of those issues. Might have a defective phone. And u were a verizon customer and didn't get the TB? Verizon LTE blows everyone... way faster than Tmo.. I have both lol so I know what I'm talking. G2x faster tho but TB faster network. Downloads and browsing
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Have none of those issues. Might have a defective phone. And u were a verizon customer and didn't get the TB? Verizon LTE blows everyone... way faster than Tmo.. I have both lol so I know what I'm talking. G2x faster tho but TB faster network. Downloads and browsing
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Ummm... I got 12Mbps on MyTouch4G on T-Mo's network - my buddy has the TB and has yet to pass 9. If this phone had HSPA+ 21, I imagine I'd be able to eek out 17 or 18 on T-Mo.
Anyway yeah I don't have any issues with mine other than things that were my own stupidity (skipping the Google login and trying to set it up later which broke wifi calling and market access over wifi and required a factory reset to fix). Its an amazing device!
Yeah, I'm all clean here too. I'm not experiencing anything negative and been using the phone all day. Fantastic device, glad I got it.
Sounds like you got a lemon and need to try another before you trash it s having serious problems.....
Try again there's always bad ones out the batch.
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Ummm... I got 12Mbps on MyTouch4G on T-Mo's network - my buddy has the TB and has yet to pass 9. If this phone had HSPA+ 21, I imagine I'd be able to eek out 17 or 18 on T-Mo.
Anyway yeah I don't have any issues with mine other than things that were my own stupidity (skipping the Google login and trying to set it up later which broke wifi calling and market access over wifi and required a factory reset to fix). Its an amazing device!
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on my tb i hit 16-even 20mbps lol i haven't touch over 8mbps on my g2x yet and upload speeds are much better with verizon
Those of you not having problems. Are you all using Wifi calling? Do you have network mode to auto, GSM or wcdma?
CNN just updated their app so maybe that'll help me if that was the culprit.
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I have a Xoom on Verizon that will soon get LTE and I'll use as a hotspots so I don't really need a VZ phone.
ajftl said:
Have none of those issues. Might have a defective phone. And u were a verizon customer and didn't get the TB? Verizon LTE blows everyone... way faster than Tmo.. I have both lol so I know what I'm talking. G2x faster tho but TB faster network. Downloads and browsing
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Ummm... I got 12Mbps on MyTouch4G on T-Mo's network - my buddy has the TB and has yet to pass 9. If this phone had HSPA+ 21, I imagine I'd be able to eek out 17 or 18 on T-Mo.
Anyway yeah I don't have any issues with mine other than things that were my own stupidity (skipping the Google login and trying to set it up later which broke wifi calling and market access over wifi and required a factory reset to fix). Its an amazing device!
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I also have the thunderbolt and the nexus s and I previously owned the mytouch 4g. And verizon 4g is spectacular to say the least. I have downloads speeds as high as 20mbs on a consistent basis. Tmobile can not compete with verizon service. But tmobile does offer a great value, and has stellar customer service.
Meh, idk. I use both and while Verizon 4g is currently fast, not always faster, that wont last. On 3g, Verizon is much slower.
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Maybe you could edit the title to say "My Phone" even though some others share your grief. It would appear not all does. .....thus far.
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on my tb i hit 16-even 20mbps lol i haven't touch over 8mbps on my g2x yet and upload speeds are much better with verizon
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And if T-Mobile had gone with a better chipset (21-42Mbps instead of the same 14.4 that the G2 has - mind you the Vibrant 4G has 21Mbps HSPA and my buddy regularly gets similar speeds to yours - 17-19 down and about 2.4 up) for the baseband, it would be a non-issue. T-Mobile has a smaller network and thus more backhaul than Verizon. Also, using the AWS band, T-Mobile can support more calls and data connections per tower than Verizon can on the 700 band. Its just the way that the spectrum works. 700MHz broadcasts further but can't handle as many connections as 1700 can but 1700 requires more towers for sufficient coverage but has over twice the total network capacity as 700. That said, Verizon being an ISP as well gives them a backhaul advantage.
As was previously stated though, do not expect the speeds on Verizon to last. Also keep in mind that Verizon is quite like Sprint at this point - you have to have LTE *AND* CDMA turned on to make and receive calls and still get your 4G data. This equals much higher battery drain than an equivalent "HSPA+" phone on T-Mobile with the same signal strength being taken into account.
Anyway, as was said earlier in the thread, don't give up on the phone. Try a factory reset first (settings/privacy) and set everything back up again - if that does not work, exchange the device. I've had no issues outside of my own doing with the G2x yet which is amazing since I almost never buy the first generation of a device due to bugs. LG really makes high end android phones.
I had installed the Car Home from the Market by sending to the phone via bt. After looking at my usage in spare parts it looks like it was using some sensor all the time so I'm hoping that was the issue. IV uninstalled it and closed the current car home app that's included. So far no sensor usage. Lets hope that fixes it. Would make sense because I doubt other folks installed this Car Home app on their phones.
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I'm also having similar issues with my phone. I received the phone yesterday morning and i've got nothing while trying to wake it up a few times. It's happened about 5-6 times and it seemed to happen while charging the phone. I don't know if that is a coincidence though. I pull the battery and then it will boot up fine. I actually had the same issue with my original G1. The issue went away after the phone received a few updates.
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Meh, idk. I use both and while Verizon 4g is currently fast, not always faster, that wont last. On 3g, Verizon is much slower.
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This. Wait until more than a few Verizon customers are on the 4G network, speeds will drop a bunch. LTE will probably still beat out T-Mobile's 4G, but not by much once the network gets some traffic. As it stands, Verizon only has one 4G phone that is pretty new, so I'm sure the total number of 4G users is quite low.
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I'm also having similar issues with my phone. I received the phone yesterday morning and i've got nothing while trying to wake it up a few times. It's happened about 5-6 times and it seemed to happen while charging the phone. I don't know if that is a coincidence though. I pull the battery and then it will boot up fine. I actually had the same issue with my original G1. The issue went away after the phone received a few updates.
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I'm definitely jinxing myself but....since I removed the Car Home app and then rebooted. Then stopped the Car Home app that came with the phone from running. It's been OK. Battery life is better too. If I can get it to last at least 5 days before a reboot, might be livable until an update comes along.
EtherealRemnant said:
And if T-Mobile had gone with a better chipset (21-42Mbps instead of the same 14.4 that the G2 has - mind you the Vibrant 4G has 21Mbps HSPA and my buddy regularly gets similar speeds to yours - 17-19 down and about 2.4 up) for the baseband, it would be a non-issue.
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I am still pretty disappointed in this. I can't figure out why T-Mobile downgraded their latest phones (Sensation and G2x) to 14.4 from the 21 of the Vibrant 4G. This is supposed to be their flagship phone, but they didn't even put their best modem in it, yet the Sidekick 4G got a 21Mbps modem? Just don't get it.
**** **** ****! Sorry...just happened again. Reboot. Bam. This is irritating to the extreme. Wifi was off, BT was off, phone had been fine all morning. Was exchanging texts with people and put the phone down. Next thing I see, it's rebooting.
WTF!!!!!!!!!
Maybe it's an app that's running but just seems very random.
jimbo831 said:
I am still pretty disappointed in this. I can't figure out why T-Mobile downgraded their latest phones (Sensation and G2x) to 14.4 from the 21 of the Vibrant 4G. This is supposed to be their flagship phone, but they didn't even put their best modem in it, yet the Sidekick 4G got a 21Mbps modem? Just don't get it.
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I believe this has nothing to do with tmobile. the reason why the galaxy s and sidekick support 21mb/s is because the hummingbird processor supports it while the snapdragon and nvidia only support 14.4 mb/s
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mobilehavoc said:
**** **** ****! Sorry...just happened again. Reboot. Bam. This is irritating to the extreme. Wifi was off, BT was off, phone had been fine all morning. Was exchanging texts with people and put the phone down. Next thing I see, it's rebooting.
WTF!!!!!!!!!
Maybe it's an app that's running but just seems very random.
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This doesn't seem so random anymore, and I've read about all the same issues with the O2X. Are you going to try to exchange it before making a final decision?

Am I imagining things??

On several separate occasions I have been on the phone talking while surfing the web and running Google searches. All this while in 3g. Is it possible that Motorola has finally given us a cdma devise capable of simultaneous voice and data without need for 4g? If this is the case why has nobody mentioned it before. Am I the only one who has noticed this? Why was this not a main selling point at the Verizon store? Well, regardless of the answers to those questions I will say, "this phone is AWESOME"
I have been an androider with many different phones since the G1 on T-Mobile. Except for one month i made the the huge mistake of trying apple but i digress. I have also been rooting and romming since the G1. This is the first time that I have had a phone longer than a day without romming it. I have now had this phone a month and still have yet to rom it. I feel there is no need. I am getting 18hrs between charges and that's with screen on and streaming slacker radio in and out of 4g because I travel. Not a single phone that I have heard of or experienced can touch this phone on battery life or even come close for that matter. The build quality is amazing. The UI is amazing. The speed is amazing. The as of yet almost bug free android experience is amazing (only bug I have noticed is a slight lag in the keyboard while in landscape mode but, it always catches up. I type as though its not lagging at all). The display quality is amazing. Oh and by the way, after experiencing siri and all other voice activated apps. Moto voice commands is the best one ever. It actually understands what I'm saying. This is something I have known though since as far back as the bionic. The speed on this phone is amazing. The screen size on this phone is perfect. (IMO) the list of great things I can say about my experience over the last month with this device is almost endless. The main focus of this thread is for others to express their opinions of the phone and to acknowledge the fact that this phone is capable of simultaneous voice and data while in 3g.
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I didn't understand.
You're saying you ccan talk on your phone while on 4G? Or you're saying it stays stable while doing both surfing and talking?
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I do think it's an awesome phone and without need tom change to any custom ROM. I think...
liquelt said:
I didn't understand.
You're saying you ccan talk on your phone while on 4G? Or you're saying it stays stable while doing both surfing and talking?
And yes,
I do think it's an awesome phone and without need tom change to any custom ROM. I think...
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I think he is saying he was about to do voice and data at the same time while his phone was reporting it was on 3G, not 4G.
grmncrsnbr said:
I think he is saying he was about to do voice and data at the same time while his phone was reporting it was on 3G, not 4G.
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VZW has had phones that can do simultaneous voice and data on 3G before. HTC Rezound comes to mind, and I am sure it is not the only one...
SquireSCA said:
VZW has had phones that can do simultaneous voice and data on 3G before. HTC Rezound comes to mind, and I am sure it is not the only one...
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Thunderbolt could do it too. I think it was the first VZW phone that could.
steve0617 said:
Thunderbolt could do it too. I think it was the first VZW phone that could.
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Yeah, forgot about that one.
I noticed this also. I think it's great.
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SquireSCA said:
VZW has had phones that can do simultaneous voice and data on 3G before. HTC Rezound comes to mind, and I am sure it is not the only one...
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HTC has been doing it since the unveiling of their 1st 4g phone. They do it by including two separate antennas. This is the first Motorola device to do it though. I just think it should have been talked about more. Sales guy didn't even tell me about it when I was torn between this or the gsiii.
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IIRC, my bionic did it as well!
yutzyscott said:
HTC has been doing it since the unveiling of their 1st 4g phone. They do it by including two separate antennas. This is the first Motorola device to do it though. I just think it should have been talked about more. Sales guy didn't even tell me about it when I was torn between this or the gsiii.
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I believe the EVO 4G was the first 4G phone ever and it was from HTC. It couldn't do data and voice while on 3G but it could while on 4G.
I'm almost certain that this has nothing to do with 3g/4g and more about the radios that are used. Similar to how the verizon iPhone 5 is incapable out the box of simultaneous voice and data because of how they utilized the radio.
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IIRC, my bionic did it as well!
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I had a bionic. It was a piece of crap. It did simultaneous voice and data only in 4G mode not 3G. This I know for a fact. As far as the one who said that the epic 4G was incapable of this, yes you are right it was. I should have been more specific and pointed out that I was referring to Verizon only as I am not a sprint customer.
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brownrt said:
I'm almost certain that this has nothing to do with 3g/4g and more about the radios that are used. Similar to how the verizon iPhone 5 is incapable out the box of simultaneous voice and data because of how they utilized the radio.
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On a 3G CDMA network the only way to achieve simultaneous voice and data is by providing with two antennas so that while one is being utilized for voice the other can maintain data. There is no way to achieve this with only firmware (ex. Radio file) that is written to do so. You must have the second antenna as well as properly written firmware. The iPhone 5 is a different bowl of wax. The phone isn't capable of this even while connected via LTE because the firmware was written in such a way to prevent it even though LTE is natively designed to do so. So in closing it can be disabled solely with firmware on a capable network but, not enabled solely with firmware on an incapable network.
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Wait a second, let me make sure I understand this correctly... You're saying the iphone5 can't talk and data at the same time? This was a huge selling point for previous iphones, why would they do away with it? Other than to save room in the device to make it smaller, I understand that, but you would think they would want to keep the phone technologically up-to-date (or at least up-to-date with the ancestor devices...)
I always knew Apple was a joke. This is just reason # I-Lost-Count.
iPhone 5 on GSM can do data and voice simultaneously. Only CDMA carriers like Verizon suffer from the problem.
Apple didn't want to put an extra antenna in it because they said it will mess with their design... so they left it out.

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