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I haven't forgot about you guys. Today we had a meeting with XDA owners via telephone. Were just getting everything ready before we make a huge announcement. I told you guys I'm NOT going to let you guys down. Just be a little patient.
Thanks
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SamsungJohn said:
I haven't forgot about you guys. Today we had a meeting with XDA owners via telephone. Were just getting everything ready before we make a huge announcement. I told you guys I'm NOT going to let you guys down. Just be a little patient.
Thanks
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I'm not sure there are a lot of expectations here to be let down. We know that in most cases you probably wouldn't be able to offer us beta, or even alpha firmware and software to develop with or on. RC firmware and software would be just as much out of the question so we're down to what is already out, or something that is leaked by people friendly to the development communities that take the chance of getting in to a lot of trouble. So I don't really know what you have to offer yet. I am curious to find out, though.
Dear john, you have sparked a lot of interest, we are drooling at the mouth do you have any gingerbread for us, or dare I speak of honeycomb? ;-)
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"IF" this where to happen it would be a good thing for both samsung and xda for the simple fact that it would help us make better mods for the samsung community and would allow samsung to release things that are more open to modding and customizations that all of us around here love and enjoy making (or in my case learning to make)...hope all goes well with this.
I am a dubious person and do not have expectations as I am still uncertain as to your intentions and more importantly you identity.
But if all is as you say I would take back to the powers that be, many are obviously unhappy with having to run outdated software in the form of the OS on what was at the time of purchase cutting edge hardware.
Give us a option. Give us a way to open the phone up and flash a AOSP option. A more Nexus-ish approach would be fantastic.
The Mainstream will have what they require in a stock configuration and we the ones that know what the potential of the device is can help you in pushing it to its limits.
Well I'm trying to get my post count up so I can comment in development. Anywho kudos to samsung.
Thanks again John, I'm excited and look forward to hearing your announcement!
For those skeptics, he's been trying to prove that he's legit;
http://img602.imageshack.us/i/20110211164013.jpg/
http://img193.imageshack.us/i/20110211205159.jpg/
http://img46.imageshack.us/i/20110211205212.jpg/
http://img841.imageshack.us/i/20110211205219.jpg/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11300099&postcount=78
He already posted these in the captivate forum, let's show him a better welcome while we wait for final details!
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Dear john, you have sparked a lot of interest, we are drooling at the mouth do you have any gingerbread for us, or dare I speak of honeycomb? ;-)
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Honeycomb is made for tablets so I don't think that really helps us. And I highly doubt Samsung is going to release Gingerbread directly to XDA if at all.
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Honeycomb is made for tablets so I don't think that really helps us. And I highly doubt Samsung is going to release Gingerbread directly to XDA if at all.
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maybe samsung will use us for testing and maybe some tweaking...that would give us a chance to develop on it before its officially released and we would just plain out have it early, cause if you give the devs here like 2 weeks with just about anything it will be fully modded and running to its full potential!!!
props to xda devs!!!
Everyone please come over to this thread.
Thanks,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11375386#post11375386
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Hopefully their next approach works out better, they should have known better than to open a topic up to the entire forum
They should probably have moderator's from each device take questions from their users, then they could collaborate and get only the good questions answered. (and you wouldn't have to deal with trolls/flames/etc.)
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Everyone please come over to this thread.
Thanks,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11375386#post11375386
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I suppose the question *since we can't ask specifics* is....
What can you do to help us and or what tools can you provide to the DEVs to help us get every bit of Awesome out of the device that we can.
Put the ball in your court.
Glad THIS thread is still open...
(Does SamsungJohn know how forums work?!?)
ANYhoo... I'm a give 'em enough rope to hang themselves kinda guy and I've actually been recommending the Mesmerize & Fascinate to friends that need new phones based solely on the great XDA community and what they can get those phones to do using only a bread tie, three pennies, and a jar of Cheez Wiz. Kudos to the devs once again!
I had no delusions that Samsung was a great manufacturer... my TV and DVD/home theater unit have had their share of problems... and I was also aware of the OS update delays in other product lines before I got my phone so that wasn't a big surprise either. BUT, I got in on the free phone thing through USCC and (if I EVER get my $80 rebate) I'll still consider being a Mesmerize owner/user a WIN.
What I see here is a classic example of a company that has the OBVIOUS solution within their grasp and they are actively choosing to find an alternative to it that will provide them SHORT TERM monetary gains. They have set themselves up for failure and they have only themselves to blame. Here's a vocabulary lesson for SamsungJohn et al... crowdsourcing
Guys if you haven't read through it, that topic was closed by a moderator because it was an experiment that failed miserably. (because the general XDA population isn't very good at reading and following instruction, and it turned into a huge flamefest.)
John has been confirmed by several sources to be who he says he is (at least works for samsung) and is here working with the XDA administration to (in an organized way) swap feedback with the developing community (on all samsung products).
On a side note Supercurio has been in correspondence with Korean Samsung and has been also pushing for this very thing to happen, but from what I've read i'ts pure coincidence that John arrived when he did.
Anyway, sounds to me like we need to be patient as information IS coming as soon as they figure out the best way to go about this whole thing. This is how I've taken things from what I've read today, don't quote me....
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Here's a vocabulary lesson for SamsungJohn et al... crowdsourcing
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In all fairness Crowdsourceing is what the whole AOSP is about. Android was and is developed to be Open Source. So if a company is reaching out to the community it can't be all bad.
I just think that for the most part a lot of us here are end users.
While I am sure that others like me want to, and strive to learn more, we simply will not be on a par with the current crop of DEVs as they progress as well.
I think the idea of a couple DEVs from each of the respective forums of the variations of the SGS platforms being in contact is a smart idea.
Dcows, Phidelt, and of course JT and many of the OPs in the Samsung Fascinate IRC channel would be obvious choices.
In fact a meeting of the minds in a channel of choice with only participants having voice would be nice as well.
I do understand and hope that SamsungJohn does know as well that most here are simply end users and just wanna know when we will get xxx or yyy ..
I will now go back to my corner get my Java Text out and see if I can learn, learn, learn....
If samsung really wants to get in good with the developement community, they would be wise to make it entirely official, and go to engadget or someone with a press release. If you want to gain our trust, give everyone the AOSP build.
Do I want sammy to be community-minded? Absolutely.
Am I going to trust one guy who says he works for our manufacturer? Well, let's get to the root of that. Do I trust the company who created out hardware? Not at all.
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Yeah I frequent the irc with those guys and we're always willing to help people... I think a lot of people come to forums just to get help and information rather than to develop and theme and stuff like we do. It would probably be more beneficial for Samsungjohn to maybe set up a date on the irc and say like "I will be on from x time to y time" and then people can get on and ask questions and talk about things, and more of the power users who use the irc regularly will get a chance to maybe learn some stuff or help out Samsung.
It would also make it much easier to control, if things get out of hand then the OPs can simply kick or ban the culprits.
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Man I gotta say that I am VERY proud to be part of the captivate community. We have alot of wonderful devs and determined people here! With CM7 and MIUI maturing to a rather stable usable state, and I9000 sourced 2.3.3 roms chugging away, things are just getting better and better here all the time :].
Ditto.
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I love how active and changing it is. It seems like every developer here is always hard at work to perfect and update their work, something other phone communities don't seem quite so set on doing. I only wish I had enough programming experience to contribute more than downloading, enjoying and reporting the occasional bug, because the more bustling the better.
You can also support them by donating
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+1 Awesome scene
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You can also support them by donating
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Broke ass college student, otherwise I would.
+1 This seems to be a very close knit community. The devs are quick to respond to changes in software, and tend to, for the most part, show an inspiring amount of patience. I am Proud to be apart of this.
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You can help them out in the forums, if someone asks a question you know the answer to answer it, the devs really appreciate not having to micro manage the thread and while they are busy with rom updates. That is what I did to help out, I'm now a member of team phoenix because of it.
Yeah if it weren't for the overwhelming community support this phone would be utter crap. Thanks to the devs we are all here.
yeah True, I wouldnt have liked my captivate so much if it wasnt for this amazing community, thank you guys so much
I hope to contribute in future, trying to learn eclipse...
Im proud as well. I have had my cappy since launch and its so cool to see how this community has grown, and the support from the chefs is great. Im always up-talking this forum to other owners that i meet that dont know the actual ability this phone has.
Now if it only was a light sabor too....
Same boat as broke ass college student so I do what I can with answering questions too.
I got my Captivate at the beginning of the year and I still flash ROMS updates as much today as when I first got it. Its because of all the choices that we have as well as updates (still can't believe we are able to run Gingerbread) that makes this phone great.
If and when I am ready to upgrade to my next phone, looking at the XDA development for the phone is going to sway my decision.
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Can't be that broke if you can afford a captivate and beer. Heh
I gotta say I agree, most the people here are to cool. I haven't asked alot of question because I've taken the advice I've seen many times and read read read lol. But when I have asked I got quick responses and never a hard time for asking. So now I try to answer any questions I know the answer to so I can say I contributed somehow. I'm glad I can be a part of the community
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Hey everyone, this was linked on AndroidCentral a few days ago, but I wanted to put it here as well! Apparently there is some strong interest in the Droid Charge by those responsible for CyanogenMod, but they want to make sure there is enough interest for it to be worth their while. They have posted a poll over on RootzWiki to judge interest, PLEASE take a few minutes to make an account and vote in the poll if you have any interest in this at all. The account's not a waste either, its a really great site where a lot of developers seem to hang out.
Anyway, even if you're not specifically interested in CM yourself (and why would you not be, haha), do realize that this would place our Charges in a relatively small group of phones that every dev wants to support, and remains a very popular device for some time to come. Think about certain devices like the OG Droid, DInc, Nexus 1, Galaxy S, Desire HD, etc. that continue to be alot of fun and very well supported long after official support has ended. They all have CM7, and therefore alot of other development as well. This would make our phones more fun and functional, keep us enthralled with them longer, give us updates from the latest versions of Android even if Samsung and VZW decide to give up, and keep their value high when it comes time to upgrade. I really hope they decide to pick this phone for development! Go vote!
Here's the Poll on rootzwiki!
Yes I voted.... have you? Need some more votes please
Obligatory vote for CM7.
I want the ability to skip tracks by longpressing the volume keys
With the help of birdman? Fascinate promises all over again?
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Registered just so I could vote! I want to be able to use a WiiMote on my Charge!!
PLEASE EVERYONE VOTE!!
CM7!
I have been dying for this since I got my charge! really hope the devs decide to put out some sick nightlies.... need to feed the rom addiction.
I posted this a few days back in the general section, but yes
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I registered there, but it won't let me vote... does it need me to wait out some activation thing?
When you register you've gotta wait for an email to activate your account before you can vote or post, mine took a few hours to show up. But thanks everyone for voting, hopefully these devs can see how much interest there is in this phone, and can help us make it great for months and years to come!
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Obligatory vote for CM7.
I want the ability to skip tracks by longpressing the volume keys [/QUOTE
Obviously I voted yes but in the mean time for the track skipping you can try using the PlayerPro music app. It's almost identical to the stock Android music app (after you set it up) from the OG Droid but with a ton more options.
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So guys I now have my SGS III, and I may be in and out for a while, and not giving 100% in here for a little while.
I have NOT gotten rid of the Atrix 2, and I still LOVE this device and will be working on it for a while.
In fact I have a treat for you guys. I will be uploading the system.img of my SGS III to my dropbox, I will link it here in the dev section when it is uploaded, so that any of our ROM devs in here can start porting it, over, I would hope...
By the way I am still finishing up the all in one script for every one, and it should be ready for testing later this week or over this weekend. It will be for a batch file for windows, a shell script for linux and mac users.
Bittersweet news... But, thank you for all of your pioneering work on the A2!! Hope we still see you around here now and again (though understandably less frequent). Also, thanks in advance for the sgs3 system.img!
And when you're relaxing in the metaphorical bathtub with your new Sammy, and you have that Archimedes moment with the A2 bootloader... do let us know, won't you? Until then, we'll keep up the good fight.
Indeed, Jim, you are very much a highly appreciated "resident expert" here on the ATRIX 2 side, but I fully I understand you're wanting to play with the new toy -and, admittedly, I am a bit envious of you! But, as alteredlikeness stated, we'll keep plugging away in your semi-absence.
You've been an invaluable resource for n00bs and developers and everyone in between, and for that I (we) thank you yet again for all you've done for us all!
Can't wait to hear back from you periodically, and wish you the best of luck with the SGS3 -I know you will enjoy tearing it apart and making the development of it nothing short of amazing!
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Bittersweet news... But, thank you for all of your pioneering work on the A2!! Hope we still see you around here now and again (though understandably less frequent). Also, thanks in advance for the sgs3 system.img!
And when you're relaxing in the metaphorical bathtub with your new Sammy, and you have that Archimedes moment with the A2 bootloader... do let us know, won't you? Until then, we'll keep up the good fight.
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Oh I am not going anywhere.... I am just focusing SOME of my dev efforts on this new device which is not even officially in stores until Thursday....
Heck 916x10, pre-ordered his at BB on 6-5 and he still does not have his yet, so....
I am still working on the A2, I have not dropped everything that i was working on, to just focus a short period on the SGS 3. I am just for the next several weeks to a month, going to make myself a little more scarce on this forum, while I get my new kernel(s) and CM9 fully up over there, for the SGS 3. I already have a pre-alpha version of CM9 and 2 different accelerated kernels that I am going to be testing this week.... The SGS 3 is just so easy to develop for.
There is still so much to be done over here, and there have been some great strides made with kexec by the CyanogenMod devs, and some of the guys I am working with over in the SGS3 forum. I want to look into some of this for my next hack over here, in a few weeks.
We have been honored to have your insight, talent and patience.
See you soon, God speed my good man!
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Oh I am not going anywhere.... I am just focusing SOME of my dev efforts on this new device which is not even officially in stores until Thursday....
Heck 916x10, pre-ordered his at BB on 6-5 and he still does not have his yet, so....
I am still working on the A2, I have not dropped everything that i was working on, to just focus a short period on the SGS 3. I am just for the next several weeks to a month, going to make myself a little more scarce on this forum, while I get my new kernel(s) and CM9 fully up over there, for the SGS 3. I already have a pre-alpha version of CM9 and 2 different accelerated kernels that I am going to be testing this week.... The SGS 3 is just so easy to develop for.
There is still so much to be done over here, and there have been some great strides made with kexec by the CyanogenMod devs, and some of the guys I am working with over in the SGS3 forum. I want to look into some of this for my next hack over here, in a few weeks.
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Very nice. And I'm sure you'll open a lot of eyes over in the sgs3 forum..
I happened to pop in there today to see what they've (now you've) got going on over there as far as development, and I ran across one if your posts and noticed you got yourself root already while others are still struggling with that.
Also, a while ago I read somewhere that Samsung makes more "hacker friendly" Androids, so to speak - does that hold some sort of truth to it? If so, we should've kept my wife's Infuse (which we traded in for another A2)..
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Very nice. And I'm sure you'll open a lot of eyes over in the sgs3 forum..
I happened to pop in there today to see what they've (now you've) got going on over there as far as development, and I ran across one if your posts and noticed you got yourself root already while others are still struggling with that.
Also, a while ago I read somewhere that Samsung makes more "hacker friendly" Androids, so to speak - does that hold some sort of truth to it? If so, we should've kept my wife's Infuse (which we traded in for another A2)..
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Yes that has always been true, they give cyanogen the first of each new phone for dev purposes. People say he is a sudo Samsung employee.
My captivate had root and roms and even cm5 after 3 weeks of release.
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High Five Bro
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In fact I have a treat for you guys. I will be uploading the system.img of my SGS III to my dropbox, I will link it here in the dev section when it is uploaded, so that any of our ROM devs in here can start porting it, over, I would hope...
By the way I am still finishing up the all in one script for every one, and it should be ready for testing later this week or over this weekend. It will be for a batch file for windows, a shell script for linux and mac users.
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Jim,
I'll look forward to seeing you on these forums hopefully, from time to time. It's a ton of fun with you around, like some big bodyguard type, to keep the riff-raff out, and the regulars in shape.
If I'm ever in the Dallas area, I'll try to get in touch, maybe have a beer. I'm slow moving, but I'm still working on some of the big ideas I've had, with documentation, and some kind of system for matching junior assistants with senior developers, as a method of training, and creating efficiency in getting work done -- but I thought, maybe expand it out to all motorola devices, so that if the petition doesn't succeed, perhaps enough dev's working together can find strategies to circumvent the bootloader lockdown.
I'm looking forward to your script ;-)
Best Regards,
Paul
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Heck 916x10, pre-ordered his at BB on 6-5 and he still does not have his yet, so....
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Hopefully tomorrow is the day :fingers-crossed: I hate BB and will never shop there again, except for when i'm trying to figure out what I want to buy off Amazon and need to see the item in person.
Hey gang,
Maybe I'm just growing weary of watching the Olympics, trying not to get too hyped up over who can row a boat faster, or win at water polo (those little caps they wear creep me out, anyone else?), but in just checking in here as I always do, as often as I do, I notice that I can almost hear crickets chirping. And, it's got me thinking as to why...
Now, don't get me wrong, this community is by far one that I am certain that I couldn't imagine being where I am without them -yes, you guys, all of you! But, quite frankly, only by the good graces and amazing talent of the devs and hackers here (you know who they are, and if you're one of them, no amount of Thanks Button mashing will ever express my gratitude to you), the ATRIX 2 forum has see a calming of waters.
I like that. And, knowing that it was all result from these guys, working their "free" time to get us (well, I never flashed the leak, but you see where I'm going with this) out of the jam that was subsequent of the ICS 'dreaded' leak fiasco. What truly awesome devs we have here, and believe me, I've poked around into other forums and they don't hold a dime to our guys.
I suppose where I'm headed with this is just a gigantic thank you to everyone who works so hard, has such passion, and with patience and talent, help the rest of us knuckleheads out with any problem that we may face. Please, feel free to chime in here, and let our guys know how appreciated they truly are, aside from "clicking their button".
So, it's quiet in here now. It has been so for a few days, or week or so. And, like I said, the only reason for the is because the dev/hack team we have here is next to none, and has delivered us from "evil" (a.k.a.: The "Dreaded" ICS leak) and will undoubtedly do so again. It's quiet here because we have resolve given to us by individuals who care, who seriously kick ass, and who are devoted to our community.
It's nice to see that quietness. Though, a bit unfamiliar, it can only be attributed to our guys, those that worked night and day, to give us this "calm". I do suspect things to liven up, once the official ICS release finds it's way to our phones, but regardless we can all take solace in knowing we're all in the best possible hands!
Thank you, all of you.
You're work is something immeasurable, and can never be thanked enough.
-Apex
+10 Was thinking the same thing the other day..... Greatly appreciate everyone on here from the devs, devolpers, regular faces (well avi's) and those good with Q&A!!!!! O and I bet you know what all the quiet is for BIG things are on the way ..... Let the team rest up from the little storm of the leak and get ready for wave 2.....
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Hey gang,
Maybe I'm just growing weary of watching the Olympics, trying not to get too hyped up over who can row a boat faster, or win at water polo (those little caps they wear creep me out, anyone else?), but in just checking in here as I always do, as often as I do, I notice that I can almost hear crickets chirping. And, it's got me thinking as to why...
Now, don't get me wrong, this community is by far one that I am certain that I couldn't imagine being where I am without them -yes, you guys, all of you! But, quite frankly, only by the good graces and amazing talent of the devs and hackers here (you know who they are, and if you're one of them, no amount of Thanks Button mashing will ever express my gratitude to you), the ATRIX 2 forum has see a calming of waters.
I like that. And, knowing that it was all result from these guys, working their "free" time to get us (well, I never flashed the leak, but you see where I'm going with this) out of the jam that was subsequent of the ICS 'dreaded' leak fiasco. What truly awesome devs we have here, and believe me, I've poked around into other forums and they don't hold a dime to our guys.
I suppose where I'm headed with this is just a gigantic thank you to everyone who works so hard, has such passion, and with patience and talent, help the rest of us knuckleheads out with any problem that we may face. Please, feel free to chime in here, and let our guys know how appreciated they truly are, aside from "clicking their button".
So, it's quiet in here now. It has been so for a few days, or week or so. And, like I said, the only reason for the is because the dev/hack team we have here is next to none, and has delivered us from "evil" (a.k.a.: The "Dreaded" ICS leak) and will undoubtedly do so again. It's quiet here because we have resolve given to us by individuals who care, who seriously kick ass, and who are devoted to our community.
It's nice to see that quietness. Though, a bit unfamiliar, it can only be attributed to our guys, those that worked night and day, to give us this "calm". I do suspect things to liven up, once the official ICS release finds it's way to our phones, but regardless we can all take solace in knowing we're all in the best possible hands!
Thank you, all of you.
You're work is something immeasurable, and can never be thanked enough.
-Apex
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Hi, I kind of took a sanity break over the last few weeks, so that is part of it; I can talk a lot!
But mostly, ICS is around the corner, so no one is really doing much with GB. once ICS really hits hard, I mean full on OTA, it will go nuts. once we get a SOAK image, there should be a bulge in activity, then it will take off with the OTA.
Believe me, there will be plenty of roms and hacks once full ICS comes out.
p.s. Devs get on IRC, I need to talk and get caught up. LOL
It's the calm before the storm. You know before the great ics debacle that's coming.
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It's the calm before the storm. You know before the great ics debacle that's coming.
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
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Well put. All the ics stuff that has happened on here has wore me out. Either that or working 12 hour days.
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Big ups to everyone for all their hard work.
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Well put. All the ics stuff that has happened on here has wore me out. Either that or working 12 hour days.
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Totaly agree...12 hours Mon thru Fri amd 8 on Sat. Coupled with the ICS leak drama, I'm wiped.
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Wiped myself...between when the leak first dropped. To the chinese friend gettin us back to 2.3.5 and a brick. Now I gotta defective replacement that is waiting to be exchanged yet again. Which also means I'll have to go through all the steps again to get back where I am now...phewww...need a day or two break I think lol.
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One thing, is that the devs are there to help. In the community of my old phone, the devs would never answer your PM's or reply to your threads. Here it's the opposite.
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One thing, is that the devs are there to help. In the community of my old phone, the devs would never answer your PM's or reply to your threads. Here it's the opposite.
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agreed, the community here really is something amazing. I can't thank all the devs, especially Jim, enough for what they have taught me
Agreed! When I first got my phone... I didn't even know what rooting was.... about 9 months later I know 100% more! Thanks to all of the devs, I learned the do's and dont's of Android (even though I make some STUPID mistakes sometimes!)
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Hey gang,
Maybe I'm just growing weary of watching the Olympics, trying not to get too hyped up over who can row a boat faster
obviously new zealand haha
but honestly the devs here are amazing with all other forums iv
been on the devs here are absaloutly the best by far no amount
of thanks would compare to what they deserve hope they keep up
up the amazing work
off topic wouldnt it be awesome to have a dev olympics haha :highfive:
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