ok so ever since i got my hero i never used any sort of facebook app. normally when i wanna check my facebook i turn on my mobile network and i go to facebook.com using the internet. People using Iphones facebook is like on 24/7 for them. they get facebook notifications to their phones and such. is there a facebook app for the hero that that does and such, and would i need to keep my mobile network on 24/ in order to get the notifications?
Warrior 3000 said:
ok so ever since i got my hero i never used any sort of facebook app. normally when i wanna check my facebook i turn on my mobile network and i go to facebook.com using the internet. People using Iphones facebook is like on 24/7 for them. they get facebook notifications to their phones and such. is there a facebook app for the hero that that does and such, and would i need to keep my mobile network on 24/ in order to get the notifications?
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Facebook Notifications seem to be the weak point of our App. I have a thread a few down from yours about how mine just don't work. I get on occasion a notification if someone writes on my wal directly. But thats it.
WiFi/EVDO shouldn't make any difference, all it cares about ( I would think) is a data connection of some type to reach it's servers.
But like I said notifications on our app are horrid. Bloo isn't the greatest for it either.
That's your phone telling you that you can wait 5 minutes to find out that your friend just took a crap for the second time today.
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That's your phone telling you that you can wait 5 minutes to find out that your friend just took a crap for the second time today.
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Thats funny. Its true some people are like FB addicts or FB stalking its crazy.
This is my first post here. I've read and learned lots from all of you, now I have a question that I can't find an answer to our figure out on my own.
I've searched and searched and tried pidgin, jabber, etc. and can not figure out how to populate my gtalk with facebook chat. Can anyone help me do this? I'd really like to use something like Facebook connect to add them, similar to what aim uses. I have an Incredible.
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Check out Meebo. It connects a bunch of different messengers like Facebook, Talk, Yahoo, MSN, AIM, Windows Live, etc. Really, I haven't heard of any popular messengers that it doesn't work with...
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Check out Meebo. It connects a bunch of different messengers like Facebook, Talk, Yahoo, MSN, AIM, Windows Live, etc. Really, I haven't heard of any popular messengers that it doesn't work with...
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I really want to use Gtalk since it is already integrated into Android. I currently use ebuddy for chat but it's a battery hog. Gtalk doesn't seem to eat as much battery. I know Facebook and Google are in a huge pissing match over $$$$ and there is NO WAY Facebook would ever open their doors and let Google in, but I thought there might be a work around that I could use to get it done myself. I'm just not that smart.
eBuddy (free app Market) - MSN, Yahoo chat, AIM, Gtalk, FaceBook, ICQ, MySpace
Works like a charm
yeah or just use a jabber transport --> but be carefull, it WILL mess with ur contacts
please let me know if you find anything. i have tried just about every IM client out there and the battery problem is almost ridiculous. both my g1 and my vibrant drain 10% per hour on idle if i am connected to an aim client, whereas it drains 1% every 2-3 hours when i kill the aim client with ATK.
I just followed http://technobuz.com/2011/05/add-facebook-chat-to-google-chat/ and it's working like a champ. It didn't mess up any of my contacts either, which is a good thing, because I keep them clean and neat as can be.
Only flaw is some facebook profiles show up as random numbers while others actually show their names. I just sent them a quick "hi" then looked on facebook messages to see who they were, and changed the name in Google Talk.
Which one would drain less battery on this phone? I know Beejive and Trillian use push services to send you messages... what does Talk use? Just trying to save the most battery I can...
Thanks
Funny... i was about to post a similar question.. Trillian vs Beejive.
Ive been using both.. tried trillian today... seems to work better reason why-> you can suspend the app and it will keep you logged in and send you an email if someone sends a message, then you just reopen the app. Beejive was able to do that on the iphone.... weird.. i didnt see that feature in the android version.
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Funny... i was about to post a similar question.. Trillian vs Beejive.
Ive been using both.. tried trillian today... seems to work better reason why-> you can suspend the app and it will keep you logged in and send you an email if someone sends a message, then you just reopen the app. Beejive was able to do that on the iphone.... weird.. i didnt see that feature in the android version.
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They both use push services though. Beejive has been more reliable for me.
GTalk will drain your battery - I found this out when it was left on by accident on the day the TB was activated.
Not sure why but Skype didn't drain as fast. Imo also didn't drain as fast. I'll be testing both Jivetalk and Trillian and will probably buy the latter because of the desktop sync which is unusual in this arena and a colleague tells me it actually seems to work.
I've been using trillian for now, as most of the others I've used don't use the push messaging, and we all know that's a horrible battery drain without that activated.
The thing I don't like though is that if I lose data for a second, and reconnect, it triggers all messages that I've read already as new IMs and sets the notification, which is quite annoying.
I'll look into Beejive. Trillian is the nicest app I've used so far, but it's really picky with data connections. There are times where it just doesn't want to let me log in at all, even though I can get a working data connection just fine.
I leave google talk running all the time, I dont have battery draining problems
I still use Palringo, which I love
I am trying beejive again to see batt life whileon 3g...
Cant believe all the crying about this app costing $10bux while i was searching around for reviews and comparisons. I think this is the first app i bought as soon as i got the phone.
Hi All,
I'm very keen to move over from Android to Windows Phone but am unsure about the availability of one of my most used features. On iOS and Android, we can install Facebook Messenger, which delivers Push messages to our phones at minimal battery drain, and also without having us appear as "online" on Facebook.
However, with Windows Phone I understand there is deeply integrated "Facebook Chat". My questions are:
1. Is there some sort of equivilent app?
and
2. If not, what is the battery drain like, leaving the device logged in online all the time. Does it still use some sort of push service to deliver messages? Can I only log into Facebook, and not onto Windows Live?
Thanks!
Hello!
First, there's this app called "IM+ Pro", from which you can use Facebook chat as well.
The deeply integrated Facebook chat (and Windows Live Messenger) are a part of the messaging app. I can't find a way to log out of Windows Live Messenger but not Facebook. I know you can disable Facebook chat alone but keep Windows Live.
And yes, you can set your status to "Appear Offline."
About the battery usage, I don't know much. I will say that I have WLM set as "Available" most of the time, and my battery isn't showing too much drain.
There is also a dedicated Facebook chat app (called FIM, I beleive for Facebook IM) which also supports push notifications. I don't know if it does Appear Offline, but it probably does. It offers advantages over most more-generic IM apps like IM+ in that it supports Facebook group chat and offline messages and such too.
I used to use FIM and it was really good. I use the built-in support now. You can toggle it on and off really easily and integration is excellent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMKM2QJHUH0
you can try FIM
OK the title is self explanatory but lets go a bit further
I have two apps on my phone that I want to stop but primarily Facebook, I don't want them starting when the phone boots and I don't want them restarting on their own when I kill the process or stop the apps, I believe they have processes running that don't readily identify themselves as being associated with the apps so even if I kill/force stop the apps a short time later they just start up again.
I still want to be able to use the apps I choose so I don't want to uninstall or freeze them
The apps (for starters) are Facebook and ES file Explorer, I don't think ES FE is that bad and just stopping it from running on boot would be good enough but Facebook is an entirely different matter, it is extremely annoying.
Sometimes my phone heats up like it is doing a lot of work on something and when I kill facebook it all settles down
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Geoffxx said:
OK the title is self explanatory but lets go a bit further
I have two apps on my phone that I want to stop but primarily Facebook, I don't want them starting when the phone boots and I don't want them restarting on their own when I kill the process or stop the apps, I believe they have processes running that don't readily identify themselves as being associated with the apps so even if I kill/force stop the apps a short time later they just start up again.
I still want to be able to use the apps I choose so I don't want to uninstall or freeze them
The apps (for starters) are Facebook and ES file Explorer, I don't think ES FE is that bad and just stopping it from running on boot would be good enough but Facebook is an entirely different matter, it is extremely annoying.
Sometimes my phone heats up like it is doing a lot of work on something and when I kill facebook it all settles down
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Greenify should do the trick.
There's also Boot manager (if you're rooted+xposed)
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Greenify should do the trick.
There's also Boot manager (if you're rooted+xposed)
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Greenfly does not achieve what I am trying to do, and boot manager does not stop facebook from loading, it is still there in my apps and running no matter what I do and if I force stop it and stop the process it is back there again later without rebooting
I suspect that facebook uses and app or process that is not readily identifiable as facebook by name and then this app or process then manages the actual facebook apps that you see running as facebook, to actually stop facebook you would need to identify this app or process to totally shut it down, so if I am right - does anyone know what this app or process is so that I can stop it and take control of facebook, I rarely use it and don't see why it needs to be running 24/7 spying on me
I am pretty sure someone on these forums know the answer
Geoffxx said:
Greenfly does not achieve what I am trying to do, and boot manager does not stop facebook from loading, it is still there in my apps and running no matter what I do and if I force stop it and stop the process it is back there again later without rebooting
I suspect that facebook uses and app or process that is not readily identifiable as facebook by name and then this app or process then manages the actual facebook apps that you see running as facebook, to actually stop facebook you would need to identify this app or process to totally shut it down, so if I am right - does anyone know what this app or process is so that I can stop it and take control of facebook, I rarely use it and don't see why it needs to be running 24/7 spying on me
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Any app that runs so forceably even when you try to stop it should not be on your phone.
It can be awoken by listening and reacting to any of the numerous intents on android. For example; the app could've been coded to wake up each time you open the camera/dialer/attempt to dial a number/connect to the internet and so on. Google Play Services operates in the same way.
Cutting off wake up paths in greenify should fix that. Or download 3C System Tuner and disable some of the triggering intents for the app.
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Any app that runs so forceably even when you try to stop it should not be on your phone.
It can be awoken by listening and reacting to any of the numerous intents on android. For example; the app could've been coded to wake up each time you open the camera/dialer/attempt to dial a number/connect to the internet and so on. Google Play Services operates in the same way.
Cutting off wake up paths in greenify should fix that. Or download 3C System Tuner and disable some of the triggering intents for the app.
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ok I am going to assume you hae android and facebook app installed............if not then never mind because you have nothing to contribute
if you have the facebook app installed then go ahead and look at apps and processes and try to stop it from invading your phone............good luck with that ...please report back
I have since uninstalled facebook app and will access it through my browser if and when I need to
I worked in IT all my life and I don't like facebook, in fact I don't like seeing people with their faces buried in their phones 10 hours a day, there is something very wrong going on - I love and support technology but as some experts are now saying, it is now a serious health problem and I believe them............so what does facebook have to do with this..................well by far the biggest offender, so much so that it is scary
my advice to anyone with a mobile smartphone is to uninstall the facebook app and just access it through a browser, people need to realize that while you have all these devices and various accounts apps and cookies etc etc, everything you do on every device, everything you access - everywhere you go, everything you do is being monitored and recorded.................everything and I mean EVERYTHING
you think your life is private lol
anyway I couldn't find a way to shut the facebook app down..........so I uninstalled it, not sure that will even make a difference but it is gone, no more updates every 2 days - no more overheating as FB tries to upload stuff to some cloud somewhere without my permission................it is gone
sorry for the rant
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ok I am going to assume you hae android and facebook app installed............if not then never mind because you have nothing to contribute
if you have the facebook app installed then go ahead and look at apps and processes and try to stop it from invading your phone............good luck with that ...please report back
I have since uninstalled facebook app and will access it through my browser if and when I need to
I worked in IT all my life and I don't like facebook, in fact I don't like seeing people with their faces buried in their phones 10 hours a day, there is something very wrong going on - I love and support technology but as some experts are now saying, it is now a serious health problem and I believe them............so what does facebook have to do with this..................well by far the biggest offender, so much so that it is scary
my advice to anyone with a mobile smartphone is to uninstall the facebook app and just access it through a browser, people need to realize that while you have all these devices and various accounts apps and cookies etc etc, everything you do on every device, everything you access - everywhere you go, everything you do is being monitored and recorded.................everything and I mean EVERYTHING
you think your life is private lol
anyway I couldn't find a way to shut the facebook app down..........so I uninstalled it, not sure that will even make a difference but it is gone, no more updates every 2 days - no more overheating as FB tries to upload stuff to some cloud somewhere without my permission................it is gone
sorry for the rant
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Startup Manager would come in handy but it only works for 1 boot and you need to repeat each time you want to reboot
Out of curiousty isn't freezing it better than deleting it?
And yeah the browser version is better
Geoffxx said:
ok I am going to assume you hae android and facebook app installed............if not then never mind because you have nothing to contribute
if you have the facebook app installed then go ahead and look at apps and processes and try to stop it from invading your phone............good luck with that ...please report back
I have since uninstalled facebook app and will access it through my browser if and when I need to
I worked in IT all my life and I don't like facebook, in fact I don't like seeing people with their faces buried in their phones 10 hours a day, there is something very wrong going on - I love and support technology but as some experts are now saying, it is now a serious health problem and I believe them............so what does facebook have to do with this..................well by far the biggest offender, so much so that it is scary
my advice to anyone with a mobile smartphone is to uninstall the facebook app and just access it through a browser, people need to realize that while you have all these devices and various accounts apps and cookies etc etc, everything you do on every device, everything you access - everywhere you go, everything you do is being monitored and recorded.................everything and I mean EVERYTHING
you think your life is private lol
anyway I couldn't find a way to shut the facebook app down..........so I uninstalled it, not sure that will even make a difference but it is gone, no more updates every 2 days - no more overheating as FB tries to upload stuff to some cloud somewhere without my permission................it is gone
sorry for the rant
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I have a suggestion, but you might not get notifications when you have activity on Facebook. You won't know about any Facebook activity until you actually go and check it yourself.
Here is a workaround that doesn't even involve having Facebook or Facebook Messenger installed.
Use your favorite mobile browser(I recommend Puffin Browser or Firefox, Firefox requires some setup though, explained and linked below), go to Facebook in browser, login, have it save your login info in browser.
Then, open your browser settings and find the option to add the page to your homescreen as a shortcut. Open your Facebook settings in browser, find notification settings, set it to notify you of activity via text or via email, if you choose to notify via email, use the email that you are logged into your device with. Then, open your email app, go to its settings and set it to notify you when you get an email. This setup will save battery, save space because Facebook won't be installed, have less demand on CPU and mobile data. It will also allow you to still receive your Facebook notifications without having the app installed.
A workaround for managing your Facebook messages without having Messenger installed is as follows.
When you open the Facebook shortcut that you added to homescreen, open your browser menu, tap "request desktop site", when the page reloads you can then check your messages by tapping the messenger icon at the top of the Facebook page. If you try to check messages without requesting desktop site first, it will redirect you to install messenger. An alternative to this is to use Puffin Browser or Firefox(use this to set up Firefox in automatic desktop view) or use another browser that saves login info and automatically opens pages in desktop view, this will do everything for you without having to request desktop every time you open the page, just make sure that you create the homescreen shortcut using Puffin(or whatever other browser you use that has automatic desktop site) instead of your usual browser.
All of this requires no extra apps or disabling/hibernating/greenifying any apps.
This is the setup I use for the exact same reason that you're wanting to avoid.
Does this get you anywhere close to what you're looking for?
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Droidriven said:
I have a suggestion, but you might not get notifications when you have activity on Facebook. You won't know about any Facebook activity until you actually go and check it yourself.
Here is a workaround that doesn't even involve having Facebook or Facebook Messenger installed.
Use your favorite mobile browser(I recommend Puffin Browser or Firefox, Firefox requires some setup though, explained and linked below), go to Facebook in browser, login, have it save your login info in browser.
Then, open your browser settings and find the option to add the page to your homescreen as a shortcut. Open your Facebook settings in browser, find notification settings, set it to notify you of activity via text or via email, if you choose to notify via email, use the email that you are logged into your device with. Then, open your email app, go to its settings and set it to notify you when you get an email. This setup will save battery, save space because Facebook won't be installed, have less demand on CPU and mobile data. It will also allow you to still receive your Facebook notifications without having the app installed.
A workaround for managing your Facebook messages without having Messenger installed is as follows.
When you open the Facebook shortcut that you added to homescreen, open your browser menu, tap "request desktop site", when the page reloads you can then check your messages by tapping the messenger icon at the top of the Facebook page. If you try to check messages without requesting desktop site first, it will redirect you to install messenger. An alternative to this is to use Puffin Browser or Firefox(use this to set up Firefox in automatic desktop view) or use another browser that saves login info and automatically opens pages in desktop view, this will do everything for you without having to request desktop every time you open the page, just make sure that you create the homescreen shortcut using Puffin(or whatever other browser you use that has automatic desktop site) instead of your usual browser.
All of this requires no extra apps or disabling/hibernating/greenifying any apps.
This is the setup I use for the exact same reason that you're wanting to avoid.
Does this get you anywhere close to what you're looking for?
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Yes that is what I have done, now facebook doesn't take over my device anymore lol not that I used it much in the first place
In terms of privacy google isn't much better but then they own the OS so not much can be done with that one
Geoffxx said:
Yes that is what I have done, now facebook doesn't take over my device anymore lol not that I used it much in the first place
In terms of privacy google isn't much better but then they own the OS so not much can be done with that one
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It's possible to not have Google on a device and use alternative apps with similar function. There are many members here that take their privacy very serious and uts,what they do with their devicesm
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just a little more feedback on this for those that area interested
After removing facebook (uninstalling the app) the difference in quite extraordinary, yes I have an xperia Z1 which is a couple of years old but it still does everything I need it too, removing the facebook app has made my phone lightening quick, I also no longer have the every other day massive updates and I can still access facebook through my browser when I feel like it, looks just the same responds just the same but without the massive overhead
seriously - do yourself a favour and dump that facebook app................it turned into a monster and there is a very easy solution
Geoffxx said:
just a little more feedback on this for those that area interested
After removing facebook (uninstalling the app) the difference in quite extraordinary, yes I have an xperia Z1 which is a couple of years old but it still does everything I need it too, removing the facebook app has made my phone lightening quick, I also no longer have the every other day massive updates and I can still access facebook through my browser when I feel like it, looks just the same responds just the same but without the massive overhead
seriously - do yourself a favour and dump that facebook app................it turned into a monster and there is a very easy solution
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I wish I could thank this post a dozen times. I tell people to get rid of facebook all the time. People come to this forum wondering why their battery usage is outrageous and why their device is so sluggish. Then you find out that they have Facebook and messenger installed along with Snapchat, Whatsapp, etc..
People just don't realize how much demand these social media apps put on the hardware.
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