Beejive vs Trillian vs Talk - Thunderbolt General

Which one would drain less battery on this phone? I know Beejive and Trillian use push services to send you messages... what does Talk use? Just trying to save the most battery I can...
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Funny... i was about to post a similar question.. Trillian vs Beejive.
Ive been using both.. tried trillian today... seems to work better reason why-> you can suspend the app and it will keep you logged in and send you an email if someone sends a message, then you just reopen the app. Beejive was able to do that on the iphone.... weird.. i didnt see that feature in the android version.

Cg006 said:
Funny... i was about to post a similar question.. Trillian vs Beejive.
Ive been using both.. tried trillian today... seems to work better reason why-> you can suspend the app and it will keep you logged in and send you an email if someone sends a message, then you just reopen the app. Beejive was able to do that on the iphone.... weird.. i didnt see that feature in the android version.
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They both use push services though. Beejive has been more reliable for me.

GTalk will drain your battery - I found this out when it was left on by accident on the day the TB was activated.
Not sure why but Skype didn't drain as fast. Imo also didn't drain as fast. I'll be testing both Jivetalk and Trillian and will probably buy the latter because of the desktop sync which is unusual in this arena and a colleague tells me it actually seems to work.

I've been using trillian for now, as most of the others I've used don't use the push messaging, and we all know that's a horrible battery drain without that activated.
The thing I don't like though is that if I lose data for a second, and reconnect, it triggers all messages that I've read already as new IMs and sets the notification, which is quite annoying.
I'll look into Beejive. Trillian is the nicest app I've used so far, but it's really picky with data connections. There are times where it just doesn't want to let me log in at all, even though I can get a working data connection just fine.

I leave google talk running all the time, I dont have battery draining problems

I still use Palringo, which I love

I am trying beejive again to see batt life whileon 3g...
Cant believe all the crying about this app costing $10bux while i was searching around for reviews and comparisons. I think this is the first app i bought as soon as i got the phone.

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Need good non-battery hogging AOL+Google Talk app

I've been a constant hunt for a good app for my HTC Touch that does both AOL & Google Talk IMs. I'm using Mundu Messenger currently, but it pulls down my battery like a madman, and it seems like almost every app I've tried does.
What recommendations do people have that might not be a battery hog? I have to have both AIM+Google Talk, but the rest is open to discussion.
Have you tried Beejive IM? Works great for me and seems to be a Push IM client.
www.beejive.com

Is there any messenger like BB mess only for android users?

Hi, i would like to have an app that offers me instant free messaging comunication (using data plan) with other droid users, just like blackberry messenger...
This is because my girlfriend is willing to buy a motorola backflip...
Does this app exists? or will exist?
You'll both have a google phone with gmail addresses. Use the built in GTalk application.
crater said:
you'll both have a google phone with gmail addresses. Use the built in gtalk application.
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derrrrrrr!
+1
Duh!
I feel so stupid right now!
hahahahahaha
ill tell you something, i loove google, but, gtalk is its only service that i dont really use, does this offer instant comunication?is it fast?
Pretty fast, and fairly reliable. Generally if there's a connection issue ur IM gets sent to the receiver as an email to their Gmail account. Definitely works well though. I use it almost exclusively now.
I wish Gtalk on android support facebook talk and others
I use ebuddy, which supports AIM and Facebook Chat.
Had good experiences with it so far.
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I love GTalk,
The only missing feature IMO is file transfer
Could try Meebo as well. Lets you log in with Facebook, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Google Talk, icq, jabber, MySpace. Just pick any account and sign in and you'll be able to IM to all the others.
It's not phone specific, but I find it easier to go from Laptop to Phone to Laptop again this way.
Used to use meebo,switchedto this program called fring cause its got sip support. It can connect to all of those above too, seems to do abetter job off reconnecting after a lost signal.
I still keep gtalk open to talk to my brother, it s more reliable than all the others imo
I tried fring, but could not stand the interface. My 7 year old neice could have done a better job.
In the event that I just HAVE to use an IM beside Gtalk, I use Palringo (for Y!, MSN, FBchat) or the actual AIM app from the market. Both are quite capable.
Try fring. It's not bad & I use it for MSN, Skype
GNja said:
I tried fring, but could not stand the interface. My 7 year old neice could have done a better job.
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hah yeah thats one thing i forgot to mention, the interface is absolutely horrid. looks like someone drew it with a crayon.
I had been looking for a way to reskin it...
nimbuzz was really clean looking but i didnt try it much cause it didnt have sip support
Using gtalk!
i feel sorry for not using it before!!!!
here is an application like blackberry
http://www.whatsapp.com/
waiting for it
figofigo said:
here is an application like blackberry
http://www.whatsapp.com/
waiting for it
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Me also im waiting for whatsapp in the mean time i use messagenow also pmesenger and lucid do the same job
figofigo said:
here is an application like blackberry
http://www.whatsapp.com/
waiting for it
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Is there a way to emulate a BB pin on an Android and chat with BBs?
Does that app is able to do that?
donchele said:
Is there a way to emulate a BB pin on an Android and chat with BBs?
Does that app is able to do that?
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no.
at least 10 characters.

Any messenger better than Palringo?

Does anybody know of a good messenger for Android that is better than Palringo in the following ways?
- solid instant messaging
- push to talk style / walkie talkie style voice chat
- able to voice chat with users of other platforms
I would love what Palringo is supposed to be (and what it was on Windows Mobile) but it's just not getting any better on Android.
For now, I am using Tikl Touch to Talk and the Trillian beta. But Tikl doesn't support enough platforms (yet) and it doesn't save the voice messages from you and friends so you can play them back.
I heard Beejive JUST came out for Android. But paying $9.99 for a messenger kinda stinks especially when it too doesn't support all the platforms that friends of mine use. But, I would buy this one if I had to if someone would just tell me if it's "voice notes" feature feels walkie talkie style (do they play when you get them, is it pretty quick to send them? Does it FEEL like walkie talkie? Is it fast?)
So, any suggestions would be appreciated. I just want what Palringo was on Windows Mobile and Windows. Push to talk with history that virtually always works but feels like push to talk and not click to record, click to stop, click to listen). I would pay if I had to but would of course prefer a free app but any app that does things things would be greatly appreciated.
Does anybody know of such an app?
Download TIKL for walkie talkie. Beejive is great even though the price is steep. I think with beejive you have to manually play vice memos. I don't use it for voice memos.
Sent while sitting on the toilet.
IM+ http://www.shapeservices.com/en/products/details.php?product=im&platform=android
The Pro version costs only $4.95.
Trillian is great and is in a free beta right now
Oh man trillian has been great so far; it handles a bunch of accounts perfectly and the continue to develop it frequently.
+1 for Trillian. It's my IM program of choice on the PC, and the Android version is stellar!
Ebuddy
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Been using Trillian and like it, the battery use seems good as it takes advantage of Google’s C2DM service...
I also like eBuddy; anyone know if it uses Google’s C2DM service also? Just wondering, C2DM should offer better battery, right?
FYI- I'm sure someone already mentioned this, but an updated version of Trillian was released yesterday (can't post links yet) w w w. trillian. im/get/android/
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Been using Trillian and like it, the battery use seems good as it takes advantage of Google’s C2DM service...
I also like eBuddy; anyone know if it uses Google’s C2DM service also? Just wondering, C2DM should offer better battery, right?
FYI- I'm sure someone already mentioned this, but an updated version of Trillian was released yesterday (can't post links yet) w w w. trillian. im/get/android/
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Trillian doesnt use C2DM...It still runs in the background...
purav17 said:
Trillian doesnt use C2DM...It still runs in the background...
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You are right, Trillian definitely runs in the background...
I just was repeating what they mentioned in their blog-
http://blog.ceruleanstudios.com/?p=1612
It says there it uses C2DM. If it doesn't they should change that blog entry...
Try imo. The best one in my opinion, all the others always force close or sign you off our won't even let you sign on.
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I prefer trillian beta for IM. I always keep the battery saving mode (which simply says that it polls less, not that it doesn't poll at all) on and still IM just fine. It's also one of the few free IM apps that does facebook chat decently.
eBuddy kept showing me contacts that I had either blocked or deleted a long time ago on msn for some reason.
imo.im decided to not allow me to see IM's from one of my contacts, and when i asked them about it, they ran me through the usual steps for troubleshooting apps: logout/login, logout then clear data then login, logout then clear data then uninstall then reinstall then login, but when it still didn't work they stopped contacting me.

Does the Facebook Chat app/widget use C2DM/Push Notifications?

I've only just got the ChaCha so am unable to get a good impression of battery life yet, but does anyone know if the built in Facebook Chat widget/app uses the C2DM framework (like the official app, Beejive, IM+ and others) or does it simply constantly poll the network and drain battery?
The app seems really good and it would be a shame if I had to remember to log out all the time to avoid sucking the battery dry. I'm used to leaving Beejive running all the time as it has VERY little hit on battery.
Does anyone know anything about this?
Cheers.
You have to remember to log off all the time :/
It started to pissing me off not because of the battery drain but because wherever I am I seem like a facebook addict meaning that im constanly logged in FB chat
I'm thinking to uninstall the widget since facebook app has chat if i ever want to chat with FB friend (which is something i dont do often).
But yeah end of the line it seems to have push notifications and when you are on the pc and log in FB chat its turned on the cell phone too.
Want an option like to never go online automatically but only manual because its a nice widget from time to time.

Yahoo Mail causes major battery drain!

Okay, I think I discovered Yahoo Mail as a major cause of battery drain on my Charge. First some background. At one point early on with the Charge I had great results of 20+ hours. That was shortly after setting up Humble and ImNuts Kernal, calibrating the battery, and installing basic apps.
As many of us do, I kept on tweaking from there. I tried various combinations of Imoseyon's kernal, EP1Q modem, and V6 supercharger and related scripts. At some point in the process I lost the battery life. I started getting 6-8 hours max! Of course at the same time I kept working on getting the "perfect" app setup. All this tweaking meant I couldn't tell what started the problem.
Anyway, I've since undone V6, gone back to PBJ kernal, and restored EE4's modem. I thought I noticed some improvement, but really it was no more than a couple hours more than before. Maybe 8-10 hours total.
So, I started thinking about how Data usage kills my battery at work. I get a very weak signal and it absolutely kills the battery. But still, I was able to get up to 20 hours before, even leaving data turned on. So, I wondered if anything was causing it to work extra hard to send/receive vs before.
Long story shortened (a little). I considered the Yahoo Mail app with it's "push only" setup. This is something I didn't have setup right away. I'd used the built in email. So, after disabling "Notifications" in my account and re-enabling the built-in mail notifications, I've recovered my battery life! Today I've been going 15 hours and I've still got 31%. And that was with fairly heavy use and leaving data on all day!
I stress that the Yahoo Mail setting is the only thing I've changed since last week. I've been very patient to make one change at a time so I could track this down properly.
So, anyone with primarily weak signals care to test this theory as well? I really feel this did it, but could use some confirmation considering all the previous variables. I'll do some further testing myself this week. Maybe a day with and a day without. It's difficult not to just jump to GummyCharged 2.0, but I really want to confirm this issue first.
Some confirmation can be found by googling the issue: "yahoo mail android battery drain". Hope this may help someone else.
Yes I have notice this too. I live in a non 4g fringe 3 g area and my battery drains fast as well. Yes I have yahoo mail and have since uninstalled it and have the stock email app pull my mail from yahoo. Also any app like yahoo messenger also runs in the back ground and no matter how much u do a force off, it restart a few mins later. Here is a list of app that run in the background.
A. Yahoo mail
B. Yahoo messenger
C. Live holdem poker.
D. Maps
E. Gallery
F. Gmail
G. Stock email app
H. Music
I. Search
And of all the rest of the stock functions. I wish that most of these apps would only run when you launch them and when you close it, they would stay shut off untill needed. Freezing the apps work but you cant use them until u unfreeze them. I know that this is done for a reason, so that there would be no lag. So I guess these are some of the things we have to live with.
One of the big mistakes samsung did with the charge is not install enuff onboard memory. So when you have all these programs running it does cause a lag and massive battery drain on our phone. As far as the data connection, I can not complain about the phone cause this is a problem that BIG RED is causing an additional drain on the battery. The mighty no connection and searching for service LOL..
END RANT..
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Glad to see it's not just me. You'd think a "push" service would use less battery, but in the case of yahoo mail it seems the opposite.
I'm not as worried about ram usage as network usage though. With a custom rom it seems fairly responsive. It's the network use that I wish we had more fine control over at the system level. If I could just make some of the offending apps act less aggressively that would be great.
In fact, I wish the OS had a smart signal monitoring feature that could tell apps to throttle back until a strong signal was available.
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I noticed this too. It was causing a huge drain! The only reason I got the yahoo mail app was because the stock mail app wouldn't let me sign in to my yahoo account. Does anybody know the reason for this? It worked less than a week ago...
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The stock mail app is working fine for me. Never had trouble logging in. Maybe try from a computer to see if it needs to verify your account or something?
So far today I am using 5% per hour with yahoo's app disabled and very heavy usage of phone and screen. During one hour with little use it only used 2%. Very acceptable. I'll try turning yahoo on for the afternoon and see the difference.
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Danzanzio said:
I noticed this too. It was causing a huge drain! The only reason I got the yahoo mail app was because the stock mail app wouldn't let me sign in to my yahoo account. Does anybody know the reason for this? It worked less than a week ago...
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What i did is uninstall the yahoo mail app and load the stock email app, you can do all the same stuff with the stock email app as you can with yahoo mail. Also I found that the email app that comes preloaded with the gc 2.0 has issue with yahoo, and other email accounts ( Iam sure other people did not have this problem but i was one of few that did. So please dont flame me and say that iam the only one with this problem). What i did is pull the stock app off my tablet and installed this one on my phone, all problems are gone, i can receive and now repley, create and send my emails. I can now easily setup all of my email accounts, aol-yahoo-comcast, etc. If you can pull the stock email app that was preloaded on the phone before you modded or install any custom rom/themes. Also if you have yahoo messenger installed, get rid of it. I found that between the yahoo mail and messenger app my battery life was almost cut in half.
Ya I'm running gc 2.0 with the same problem. Any way you could post a link of the stock app?
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Danzanzio said:
Ya I'm running gc 2.0 with the same problem. Any way you could post a link of the stock app?
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It's in gummytoolbox
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Update
So, I finished my testing:
Yahoo Mail app notifications turned off:
Used 35% battery in first 6 hours of day with heavy use of phone
Yahoo Mail app notifications turned on:
Used 55% battery in next 6 hours of day with very light use of phone
So, simply enabling the Yahoo Mail app notifications increased my battery use more than 50% per hour. This is even though I went from heavy usage before the change to practically no usage after the change.
Needless to say, I'll be leaving Yahoo Mail notifications off and let the built in e-mail app notify me. Which it does a very fine job of by the way. It's still "push" even.
So, I'm wondering how to find other offending apps. I'd have thought Spare Parts would tell me, but apparently Yahoo Mail was hiding its network usage behind some other title. Perhaps it's lumped under Dialer or one of the mysterious user ID's that show up (1043, I think?).
Anyone know of another network usage watchdog type app for our phones that might shed more light?
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Ya I'm running gc 2.0 with the same problem. Any way you could post a link of the stock app?
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I will try and have it posted by the end of the day or tomorrow. You can try to install the one under the gummytoolbox and see if that one works. I havent tried that one. let us know if it works.
Ya I tried and it didn't work for me.
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Ya I tried and it didn't work for me.
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here is the email app i used, let me know if it works for you. i have about 25 email apps and hope i gave u the right one..
I have tried and tried but cannot get Yahoo mail added to my email. I also tried to download your link but it says my phone does not support this.
chargerchick said:
I have tried and tried but cannot get Yahoo mail added to my email. I also tried to download your link but it says my phone does not support this.
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I think you have to use this one to replace the one in /system/app since it's a preinstalled application.
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chargerchick said:
I have tried and tried but cannot get Yahoo mail added to my email. I also tried to download your link but it says my phone does not support this.
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Go into your system/app folder and delete the stock email app that you have installed. Of course by deleting this you may/may not lose all of your accounts you have setup. Then download the link and install this one ( also make sure you rename the app to Email.apk ) i dont think you have too, but if you have a problem installing it, try it, you never know). Problem is since you allready have the email app installed, it will not let you install another one. I know this to work, for i have tried several different version that have been floating around these site, and they are all the same version, So i pulled the stock email app that i have on my Gtab and used that one on my Charge and it works great. push/pull-reply-create all works now, as well as being able to create all email accounts that i have without any issues. Just make sure once you have installed that you restart your phone for all to take into effect. Look at the app page on the phone and make sure you have the white envolope w/green @ symbol on it. If you do and you launch the app you should have a page loaded that has all the different email accounts that you can use to automatically setup. Just enter you [email protected] account and the password and then click next and if all setup correctly it will prompt you to pick a nickname and name to use for that account. Finished.. LOL
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Go into your system/app folder and delete the stock email app that you have installed. Of course by deleting this you may/may not lose all of your accounts you have setup. Then download the link and install this one ( also make sure you rename the app to Email.apk ) i dont think you have too, but if you have a problem installing it, try it, you never know). Problem is since you allready have the email app installed, it will not let you install another one. I know this to work, for i have tried several different version that have been floating around these site, and they are all the same version, So i pulled the stock email app that i have on my Gtab and used that one on my Charge and it works great. push/pull-reply-create all works now, as well as being able to create all email accounts that i have without any issues. Just make sure once you have installed that you restart your phone for all to take into effect. Look at the app page on the phone and make sure you have the white envolope w/green @ symbol on it. If you do and you launch the app you should have a page loaded that has all the different email accounts that you can use to automatically setup. Just enter you [email protected] account and the password and then click next and if all setup correctly it will prompt you to pick a nickname and name to use for that account. Finished.. LOL
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Not to sound dumb.....I like the stock email app as well and it does not work on my phone. I DL your file. now I place it on my sd card and flash it, is that how I install it?
No you dont flash it. Once you delete the email app you have in your system folder. Then you just click on the email app to install it. Of course you will have to redo your settings, and then you should be good to go.
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Not to sound dumb.....I like the stock email app as well and it does not work on my phone. I DL your file. now I place it on my sd card and flash it, is that how I install it?
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I have tried and tried but cannot get Yahoo mail added to my email. I also tried to download your link but it says my phone does not support this.
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Did you try to add it manually as an IMAP account? Enter your email address and password and then select manual setup or whatever that option is. Google the SSL IMAP yahoo settings for android and you should be able to get it. That is how I got mine working.
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here is the email app i used, let me know if it works for you. i have about 25 email apps and hope i gave u the right one..
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Thanks it works, you safe my life.
Khanusma said:
Did you try to add it manually as an IMAP account? Enter your email address and password and then select manual setup or whatever that option is. Google the SSL IMAP yahoo settings for android and you should be able to get it. That is how I got mine working.
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Thank you for this! I googled the settings and it worked! Now I can delete the Yahoo app!

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