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Im fairly new to this section of the forums most of my hangout is on the Gtablet side. But what is needed to get this phone up to gingerbread? What are we lacking?
ohhh please...
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Not getting the sarcasm here? I asked a simple question which is not anywhere in this development forum I searched. The Gtab came with 2.2 and has successfully been updated to 2.3 and they are now working on a honeycomb port missing on a few things atm. Whats holding the s4g back?
I believe people are going to get upset with you posting this here.
We are missing the neccesary files from Samsung.
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Not understanding that we have the source from samsung but we are still missing what is required. Why would people seriously get mad?
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Not understanding that we have the source from samsung but we are still missing what is required. Why would people seriously get mad?
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Because it's been asked before.
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That and questions belong in the general section. It helps keep the dev section clean.
Thanks
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From a development point... What is still needed to get this ball rolling? I think the question is appropriate for the development section as its not "who is working on gb" or "is CM coming".
Definetly should be in the general section, but the main thing were missing is a final version of CWM and the devs, the ones we have are great but there time is consumed doing other things. I assume its going to be a while before we get any good roms
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Just to add I don't think anyone is working on froyo roms much less gb. Point of this story is if you want custom roms ditch this phone
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There is no GB development, because there are almost no developers for this phone.
The two active developers don't even have a SGS 4g (well, krylon has a loaner)....
I thought the biggest reason would be that we have no gingerbread updated from Samsung that are compatible with our phone. In order to get gingerbread right now, we would have to port over one from another Samsung device and then make it compatible with ours. Which isn't easy at all from my understanding.
That being said, we do have a small community.
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Understandable, but we dont need a source from samsung for gingerbread. Gtab devs made a GB rom without anything being compatible and are moving to honeycomb with out official support from nvidia or viewsong for either of these roms.
I guess Ill get back to working with the cyanogen I have now to start tweaking but CWM is working on my phone at least.
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Understandable, but we dont need a source from samsung for gingerbread. Gtab devs made a GB rom without anything being compatible and are moving to honeycomb with out official support from nvidia or viewsong for either of these roms.
I guess Ill get back to working with the cyanogen I have now to start tweaking but CWM is working on my phone at least.
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r u working on a rom...? do u need some assistance? i'm not super at programming but willing to learn bcuz sgs4g needs something awesome thats long awaited
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Understandable, but we dont need a source from samsung for gingerbread. Gtab devs made a GB rom without anything being compatible and are moving to honeycomb with out official support from nvidia or viewsong for either of these roms.
I guess Ill get back to working with the cyanogen I have now to start tweaking but CWM is working on my phone at least.
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This is not to flame you, but any questions like this shouldn't be asked in development. It clutters the development forum. It needs to be posted in the "General" section.
This question has been asked there several times as well.
#1 Getting GB to work on any samsung phone currently is a monster of a task. Just read up on the nightlies that CyanogenMod is putting out now for the Captivate. Android 2.3.4 via CM 7 running on Captivate.
#2 The SGS4G is more similar to the Epic 4G than the Vibrant. That being said read what was said from ciwrl (CM Dev Team): "epic is slated for last…its full of nasty hacks"
Hope that answers your questions. Please post in General next time.
Are there even any ROMs out there for this phone? Is there even a CyanogenMod?
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Are there even any ROMs out there for this phone? Is there even a CyanogenMod?
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None at the moment. CWM is priority number one with the current Devs, although a few other mods coming out.
It hardly seems priority. Krylon put it on hold for Bionix and whatever project he's on now
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It hardly seems priority. Krylon put it on hold for Bionix and whatever project he's on now
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Negativity sucks. :-(
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It hardly seems priority. Krylon put it on hold for Bionix and whatever project he's on now
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For one, you have no idea what is going on.
For two, comments like that don't make any dev work faster. Devs have NO obligation to help the masses. Why piss off some one that is helping? Because your impatient? Relax bud. When its done its done. ;-)
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Did ROM GIngerbread development stop for our phone? i havent seen an update for gingerbread in two weeks.. i was hoping to see some lag fix or something....just wondering anyone have ideas if ginger ROMS will Get An UPDATE thanks so much????
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Did ROM GIngerbread development stop for our phone? i havent seen an update for gingerbread in two weeks.. i was hoping to see some lag fix or something....just wondering anyone have ideas if ginger ROMS will Get An UPDATE thanks so much????
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I know how u feel, its as if theres no such thing as development for the charge, specially GB. Its as if the charge doesnt exist. Development could be better.
However I do believe the reason why there isnt much dev for GB is because people arent happy with the leaks or just want to wait for the official release. But there is lagfix for GB my guide is in the dev section. How to simply ext4 gb.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188637
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Thanks
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I was reading r2Doesinc's twitter and it seems he is in the beginning stages of bringing OMFGB to the Charge. If he is able to accomplish this,that is the only ROM we will ever need for our phones. It's pure AOSP goodness, if you haven't heard of OMFGB before.
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I was reading r2Doesinc's twitter and it seems he is in the beginning stages of bringing OMFGB to the Charge. If he is able to accomplish this,that is the only ROM we will ever need for our phones. It's pure AOSP goodness, if you haven't heard of OMFGB before.
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How does it compare to cyanogenmod?
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How does it compare to cyanogenmod?
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Comparable to cyanogen, I love cyanogen but omfgb and omgb are awesome roms, to me omfgb is a little faster than cyan, both are pure aosp. You pretty much have to try both to see which one you like.
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Another thing, 4g is new to these phones, especially 4g lte, I wouldnt say rom development has stopped, more like slowed because of this. They have to work with all the samsung and tw things, combined with 4g, you have to give them extra time. When we get aosp, trust me, development will boom
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I was reading r2Doesinc's twitter and it seems he is in the beginning stages of bringing OMFGB to the Charge. If he is able to accomplish this,that is the only ROM we will ever need for our phones. It's pure AOSP goodness, if you haven't heard of OMFGB before.
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hell yeah i'll be the first one to load it up and test it after seeing and running his and jt1134's work on the Fascinate
blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge 4G
Will we even be able to use LTE with an AOSP ROM though?
Yes with the correct RIL
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Most of us are just waiting for official GB & source. Just because there haven't been any releases lately doesn't mean that it's not being worked on by someone
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Just need some more patience, I figure every device needs about 8 months in the wild before they get near pure ASOP Goodness, even without samsung's mess of code to work with. I remember when I first started my flashing addiction, back with the htc hero.
Htc was so evil with their source to, we had devs actually make their own ril's that surprisingly worked before we had a source that would actually compile.
Post all of your wants, needs,and desires about ICS here. Rumors, facts, whatever else are also welcome.
the new internet browser will sync your contacts with google chrome sync. nice eh?
books app now supports tablet sizes
new updated calender syncing
new camera app
stock email and exchange email now separate apps
face locking
new gallery
google based text to speach API
music by beta music sync
NFC (boo hoo)
Google video EDITOR
google tags??
basic new things to look for,
So The Nexus One isn't getting official ICS because it doesn't have enough space on the system partition(speculation as no one officially knows the real reason) but do you think this will be the case for many phones including the Captivate? Would suck if the bottleneck for peoples phones would be “not enough space"
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There was a link to an article (unofficial) that said Galaxy S, Nexus S, and something else would get ICS.
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So The Nexus One isn't getting official ICS because it doesn't have enough space on the system partition(speculation as no one officially knows the real reason) but do you think this will be the case for many phones including the Captivate? Would suck if the bottleneck for peoples phones would be “not enough space"
*Get Chance and Luck*
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Miui developers have successfully ported ics to the captivate. Link to the article is in the miui thread.
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The cappy is definitely capable of running fully fledged ics smooth to googles standards as it has essentially the same internals as a nexus s
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Miui developers have successfully ported ics to the captivate. Link to the article is in the miui thread.
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That's kinda of hard to believe sense the source hasn't been released yet. Might be a port from the sdk. But its MIUI so no telling who's work they stole this time lol
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That's kinda of hard to believe sense the source hasn't been released yet. Might be a port from the sdk. But its MIUI so no telling who's work they stole this time lol
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I think he's referring to the port from Galnet, and your right. It is a port from the sdk.
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Miui developers have successfully ported ics to the captivate. Link to the article is in the miui thread.
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Well I don't think it actually has been been ported onto the Captivate yet. B-eock tried but the test didn't boot.
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Well I don't think it actually has been been ported onto the Captivate yet. B-eock tried but the test didn't boot.
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I was trying to fix the touchscreen issue, didn't work! Still have to use two fingers. The not booting, was my mistake I messed up. It boots fine and if you wanna fix reorientation then flash glitch kernel!
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Miui developers have successfully ported ics to the captivate. Link to the article is in the miui thread.
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Good to know, I can finally sleep at night.
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Miui developers have successfully ported ics to the captivate. Link to the article is in the miui thread.
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Care to link us to it?
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Miui developers have successfully ported ics to the captivate. Link to the article is in the miui thread.
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The only link I saw over there was the galaxy s port
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I was trying to fix the touchscreen issue, didn't work! Still have to use two fingers. The not booting, was my mistake I messed up. It boots fine and if you wanna fix reorientation then flash glitch kernel!
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Ooooooohhhh ok. I want to help out with this project, so I'm going to try to help out with the touchscreen issue.
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So The Nexus One isn't getting official ICS because it doesn't have enough space on the system partition(speculation as no one officially knows the real reason) but do you think this will be the case for many phones including the Captivate? Would suck if the bottleneck for peoples phones would be “not enough space"
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The main speculation for why the Nexus One is not getting ICS comes down to two things: ROM storage for the system and the processor speed.
First, the Nexus One only comes equipped with 512MB of ROM. After the system files are installed, it leaves something around 200MB for apps, which is not a lot. ICS is supposed to take even more space than GB, so having something like 50-100MB for user apps would be likely...and unpleasant.
The Galaxy S phones all have 2GB of internal ROM I believe, so I don't think that issue will apply.
Second, the Nexus One has an older 1Ghz "Snapdragon" SoC. Although clocked the same as a Galaxy S phone, it is made with an older design, and performs less work per cycle. According to a few articles I have seen, the "Hummingbird" SoC in the Galaxy S phones has up to 3 times the GPU power of the older "Snapdragon" SoC...and roughly a 30% increase in real world performance.
Given that ICS will have hardware acceleration for 2D drawing, the slower processor (especially slow for GPU type elements) is likely a big hindrance, that again, should not apply to the Galaxy S line.
So keep your fingers crossed for this I guess. I will be! I am confident there will be a working unofficial release, but very doubtful about anything official.
ICS for SGS i9000 post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18872533
Funny watching the threads over time, where is our froyo?
The i900 has ginger bread. Now where is my ice cream sandwich, even before a device us officially released with it.
First real port will be when the cm team gets it going. Imho
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Funny watching the threads over time, where is our froyo?
The i900 has ginger bread. Now where is my ice cream sandwich, even before a device us officially released with it.
First real port will be when the cm team gets it going. Imho
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Your probably right about CM. We know that att is the only reason we don't have official gb.
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Your probably right about CM. We know that att is the only reason we don't have official gb.
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They have to sell their new devices.
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They have to sell their new devices.
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Mcord11758 glad to see you around
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Ok if jellybean is only a minor update to ics and not a total update, couldn't we in a way have that on our Infuse? Just a guess and wonder because if that's true then our devs could once again stomp Sammy feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, it's just a guess after all.
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we will see in time. if the kernel end of it is close i think it can be done. the coming months will be exciting. the dev on this device has finally taken off. i know entropy works from source so it might take a bit of time before it becomes reality but i can't wait to see what happens. i just hope the new features dont bog the phone down, we are working with limited resources. i didn't think i'd be saying that any time soon since the market apps haven't really advanced but there is so much in the way of new interface features in jelly bean as far as multi tasking that it might be a ram hog and really benefit from multi core. it's possible jellybean will prompt me to get a newer phone but not imediately.
Your right only time will tell, but I see it as it may be able to be done because after all, everyone said we would never have working BT and now we do, people said the infuse would never see ICS and now we have a few ICS ROM's! I will never rule it out as impossible
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Your right only time will tell, but I see it as it may be able to be done because after all, everyone said we would never have working BT and now we do, people said the infuse would never see ICS and now we have a few ICS ROM's! I will never rule it out as impossible
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there are hurdles but now there is experience and new understanding in the trouble areas. but it was the same way with the galaxy s and gingerbread. even though the hardware was almost identical to the nexus s it took much longer to get a release quality version of cm7 than most snapdragon powered devices, there were betas and early ports with no recovery mode done as proof of concept but the official release took some time. the filesystem, the bootloaders, and the way the kernel starts up is all different from the nexus and that took time to safely port. then with the infuse that was all figured out but the hardware kept throwing curveballs. i wasn't sure if we would see the day that bt was functional and hardware acceleration was working as it should but i felt we would see ics in some capacity since a lot of stuff can be emulated. now i think jellybean might happen but it might finally date the single core chip, single channel ram, and limited ram as multi tasking becomes better in android.
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Your right only time will tell, but I see it as it may be able to be done because after all, everyone said we would never have working BT and now we do, people said the infuse would never see ICS and now we have a few ICS ROM's! I will never rule it out as impossible
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Is BT finally working for Infuse on ICS?
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Is BT finally working for Infuse on ICS?
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Noooo we are all just magically using bluetooth mice and headsets now lol its out finally. I think jellybean will come. And it should not bog down the infuse, itll make it faster with project butter
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Is BT finally working for Infuse on ICS?
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Yes, it is. Check the Dev forum.
goodness I just read the thread in dev section. I am jumping for joy! :good:
I read that someone is working on a port from the gnex to i9000 could we use that as a base?
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wouldn't it be better to wait for the nexus s dump, as that would be more identical and thus easier to port to GS1 devices?
*shrug*
yeah i think a nexus s port would be better but a source build is best. a port from a dump would likely be more proof of concept than a daily driver.
and as far as project butter goes, it might be a double edged sword. i'm sure the phone will continue to feel smooth for the average user but power users will multitask more. we may get more out of the phone than we have before but at the same time it might be easier to demonstrate the difference in newer devices. jelly bean might get the most out of the infuse but the infuse might not get the most out of jelly bean but i can be wrong on this. it's just opinion based on no real knowledge of how they plan to get smother performance or how that affects the resources the infuse has available....
Yea. it will only be a few weeks till source. And with the progress with ics I'm sure it won't take long to build. And entropy said he only builds from source. I'm sure he or nun would test it out.
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It's good to know our beloved infuse will live on for another year or 2 thanks to these dedicated and motivated devs we have they really are something else
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People are already trying to port jelly bean to i9000 I'm not sure how much progress they made but looks promising either way
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28025970#post28025970
new thread for JB talk
To reduce the amount of spam in the thread, a Jelly bean thread was made. Use that thread for discussion.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739713
Thread closed,
YZ.
http://www.lgmobile.co.kr/lgmobile/front/download/retrieveDownloadMain.dev#manual
That link is official ICS update for korean users!!
So few more days till drivers are out
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I don't understand a thing typed up on that page.
But if this is real, I will be overjoyed.
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I don't understand a thing typed up on that page.
But if this is real, I will be overjoyed.
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The OFFICIAL ics is out for su660. When kernel source cones, p990 can be made stable with the drivers in it. Which will make p999 workable when devs get to it.
Hence indirectly out of luck g2x got a life.
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Thanks for the quick explain :good:
RC our God will show compassion on us simple folk, for he is gracious and overflowing with ice cream sandwiches and jelly beans.
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RC our God will show compassion on us simple folk, for he is gracious and overflowing with ice cream sandwiches and jelly beans.
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Thanks.. but who exactly is RC... I heard about him a lot... he seems very important but Im noobie here
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http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Community_Members
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Thanks.. but who exactly is RC... I heard about him a lot... he seems very important but Im noobie here
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He's the reason we have anything on our phone. He's a true developer, not just someone who can compile pre made work. He lays the basis for all the roms.
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http://www.lgmobile.co.kr/lgmobile/front/download/retrieveDownloadMain.dev#manual
That link is official ICS update for korean users!!
So few more days till drivers are out
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I'm beside myself. This just made my day!
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He's the reason we have anything on our phone. He's a true developer, not just someone who can compile pre made work. He lays the basis for all the roms.
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faux123 is also very skilled!
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What's LG's turnaround for releasing source been like in the past?
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faux123 is also very skilled!
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Each n every Dev here is skilled. For me there has always been 3 kind of peoples. People who are end users who just buy the phone and fear to fiddle with it cuz it will void the warranty. Others are power users who doesn't care about warranty and do flashing testing and even sometimes tweaking the code (these are the extreme power users). The last are developers some who add their own logic to the code to add new things and fix things the others are extreme developers (who has the android code in their brains like people in LG and Ricardo and last but never the least Google itself)
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He's the reason we have anything on our phone. He's a true developer, not just someone who can compile pre made work. He lays the basis for all the roms.
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RC is the cyanogenmod developer who is in charge of the LG devices. But that's not to say everyone else isn't skilled cmon man.
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RC is the cyanogenmod developer who is in charge of the LG devices. But that's not to say everyone else isn't skilled cmon man.
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I didn't mean to say the others aren't skilled. RC just does the forefront of developing while most developers use his work plus other cherry picks. It's way more than I do, for sure.
And I was just talking about rom devs, faux and morfic are amazing kernel devs. Every dev here is awesome, but we need to really credit RC for the huge amount of work he puts into our phone.
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What's LG's turnaround for releasing source been like in the past?
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The Optimus black's source hit in a couple days.
So what about the news that the Atrix has a leaked official build of ICS now? It's the only other Tegra 2 device that is exactly like our phone. If it would have came out months ago it would have been nice but now that it's out so soon to an official release for the p990 it makes me kind of sad.
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So what about the news that the Atrix has a leaked official build of ICS now? It's the only other Tegra 2 device that is exactly like our phone. If it would have came out months ago it would have been nice but now that it's out so soon to an official release for the p990 it makes me kind of sad.
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Been covered before, the Atrix is a bit too different to be of much help. It's a Tegra 2 but there are some differences.
I'm just concerned if the Korean Su660 is similar enough to the P990, and thus the P999, for its source to be of use, or if we still need to wait for p990 source?
My secondary concern is that there will be additional time/issues getting all this to work on Jelly Bean, which is what the "cool devs" are going to work on anyway.
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Been covered before, the Atrix is a bit too different to be of much help. It's a Tegra 2 but there are some differences.
I'm just concerned if the Korean Su660 is similar enough to the P990, and thus the P999, for its source to be of use, or if we still need to wait for p990 source?
My secondary concern is that there will be additional time/issues getting all this to work on Jelly Bean, which is what the "cool devs" are going to work on anyway.
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It's the same phone, minus a button + an antenna. Besides, the p990 is pretty much a p999 with a different radio and partition, while the su660 is the same with different kernel level changes (as the p990) (or something along these lines. It will get us cm10 though)
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Been covered before, the Atrix is a bit too different to be of much help. It's a Tegra 2 but there are some differences.
I'm just concerned if the Korean Su660 is similar enough to the P990, and thus the P999, for its source to be of use, or if we still need to wait for p990 source?
My secondary concern is that there will be additional time/issues getting all this to work on Jelly Bean, which is what the "cool devs" are going to work on anyway.
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As far as i know, the difference from ICS to JB is MUCH MUCH smaler than GB to ICS. From what ive collected so far, if we got the ics source we will be able to get JB to work almost flawlessly, maybe not perfect, but a normal user like myself wouldnt be able to tell any difference.
To me that is great news
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As far as i know, the difference from ICS to JB is MUCH MUCH smaler than GB to ICS. From what ive collected so far, if we got the ics source we will be able to get JB to work almost flawlessly, maybe not perfect, but a normal user like myself wouldnt be able to tell any difference.
To me that is great news
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Yes, with source for ICS, JB will run fine.
My Iconia tablet was upgraded to ICS stock, than with the source, the devs pounded out a fully functional JB ROM. I use it as my daily driver.