May or may not be informative to some, but if you put your phone on wifi to conserve battery, it may not be staying like that when the phone is sleeping. By default, android tells it to switch back to mobile data when it's sleeping and if you have lots of stuff syncing, that could drain the battery quicker than you want. If you grab spare parts from the market, there's an option in there to tell wifi to never shut off.
I actually want to use this setting so that my exchange account always syncs when on wifi. I don't see the setting in the das bamf toolkit version of spare parts. I know it's around here somewhere.
It's not there as far as I know. Need to get the spare parts from the market.
Try menu>wireless & networks>wifi settings>menu>advanced> wifi sleep policy. Set to never. Hope that helps.
Didn't notice it there before, but saves from having to have a separate application. Thanks
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I am curious, but the only way I can think of to ask this question is to provide an example or two, so bear with me.
You decide you need directions. Fire up Google maps, click my location and it says you need to enable data...DOH!, back out to the menu (or follow the prompt), enable either GPS or Data, and go back into maps. Get what you need, and then leave Maps. Dont forget to turn the GPS or Data back off!
Wouldnt it be better if when you enter Google Maps, it would fire up the GPS or Data connection automatically? And when you back out or have a period of inactivity, disable it.
Same thing with the internet, I know Locale and others can turn on and off the wifi depending on where you are, but, for example, when I am home I rarely need wifi. However, when I open the internet it would be great if it looked for a friendly wifi signal and tried to connect if possible. That way you are always connecting the fastest possible method for your application and doing the least amount of work. If the disconnect would be an issue (since none of the programs has an exit button) maybe a variable timer could be set, or maybe base it off of inactivity.
Like I said, they are just ideas, and I have never understood why nobody (WM for example) has ever implemented anything like this. It seems like it would help conserve battery power and at the same time greatly simplify things.
When you put the G1 to sleep it shuts off the wifi connection automatically, then when you turn it back on, it reconnects to the network if you're still near it.
I have always wondered why Google Maps doesn't turn on GPS when it needs it. It does on the iPhone as far as I know. I have really wanted this to happen for awhile but I just figured Google would be the ones to add it.
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I have always wondered why Google Maps doesn't turn on GPS when it needs it. It does on the iPhone as far as I know. I have really wanted this to happen for awhile but I just figured Google would be the ones to add it.
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Yeah I wonder why also, maybe they were in a rush or some battery issue. also iphone doesn't have gps just the cell location I usually keep that on.
I have a G1 with JF's modded ADP1 image.
Is there any way I can force wifi to stay on even when the G1 sleeps?
It's really irritating that it turns wifi off - the intentions may be good, but it should be possible to choose to let wifi stay on even as the screen blanks out.
Any hacks or commands I can enter as super user to have it my way?
~Christopher
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Why would you want it to stay on?
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I want to be able to decide for myself whether I want wifi to stay on or shut off when the G1 sleeps. The battery saving intentions are good, but let me decide and override if I want to - maybe I've bought one of those bulky 2200mAh batteries and have no worries when it comes to battery usage?
But the actual reason is I'm not on an unlimited data plan, so when I'm at work or at home (which accounts for maybe 85% of my time), both places connected to wifi, I want the G1 to continue to sync email, maybe download podcasts, etc. even if it sleeps without worrying that it uses 3G/Edge for these tasks as it will cost me much in terms of data usage.
~Christopher
Hi folks
I've searched around the forums and have seen a couple of solutions out there for automatically terminating data connections (Bandswitch, WMLongLife, the registry tweak) but each seems to lack some of what I need and do a lot that I don't need.
Here's the lowdown:
- I've already tweaked the Comm Manager to add the 3G on/off switch so I don't need something that messes with that
- I use push email for business so I need the data connection to stay on during the "peak times" that I've set in Activesync (for me, that's 8am-11pm)
- Outside of peak times, I've got the phone checking email every hour. Right now, it seems to be leaving the connection on afterward.
- I want to keep the automatic updates for HTC Sense's weather and stock tabs. Not every 5 minutes, of course, but at least a couple of times a day. Also tends to leave the connection going when used outside peak hours.
As I understand it, the registry tweak won't work for the Sense tabs. Bandswitch and WMLongLife mess with the 3G radio and, as far as I can tell, don't let you set a timeframe (re: the latter - I suppose when you've got push mail going it pings the Exchange server regularly so in theory it shouldn't consider the connection idle, but why mess with it?)
So, in short, anyone got a solution that could switch off an idle data connection outside of the peak times set in Activesync?
If you just want to kill connections during certain times (ie, night time) try G-Profile. I have it set to kill data connections during the night, works fine for me although I am using a new beta version which is available from their site.
Looks interesting but reading through the manual it looks as if you can only set a profile to disable the data connection during certain hours. I'd like to leave the data available, just switch on auto-disconnect.
Plus, again, there's a lot of extra stuff in there that's really not necessary. I'm looking for something more lightweight...
I haven't tried it, but you might want to take a look at CommMgrPro.
It's also from the creator of Bandswitch.
PhoneAlarm can do this.
I had PhoneAlarm installed on my previous phone. True, it can do this.
But again, it's like using a tank to kill a fly. Sam with CommMgrPro.
Is there no lightweight solution?
+1 for this. It has to be possible, everyone just seems to lump the functionality in with a load of other stuff I'm not interested in.
Up, I'm looking for this also
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This kind of app is missing...
SO.... last night I left my charging cable at the office and I only had around 20% of the battery left at 11:00pm. For some reason, the thing kept opening the data channel even though it was outside of "peak" hours for push! I had to reset and turn manually turn off all data... couldn't have the phone die overnight as it's my alarm clock!
Any ideas here?
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What about this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610657
I've checked the forums but still theres no answer on what exactly is and what exactly it does, its pros and cons of the 'Enable always-on mobile data'
I would like to know what exactly is that option what sort of apps get affected cause right now gmail still working for me with that setting off. The thing is some people claim better battery life some people claim the opposite.
Anyone knows official use for it?? anyone? I started to test the battery life on it to see if it helps in the event it doesnt I would say the mytouch 4g is the worst phone ever.... i hardly get 10 hours of battery life with the phone just sitting on the desk...
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I've checked the forums but still theres no answer on what exactly is and what exactly it does, its pros and cons of the 'Enable always-on mobile data'
I would like to know what exactly is that option what sort of apps get affected cause right now gmail still working for me with that setting off. The thing is some people claim better battery life some people claim the opposite.
Anyone knows official use for it?? anyone? I started to test the battery life on it to see if it helps in the event it doesnt I would say the mytouch 4g is the worst phone ever.... i hardly get 10 hours of battery life with the phone just sitting on the desk...
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'Always-On' Data tells your phone to open a data connection whenever one is available in your area, not just whenever you need it ('On-Demand' Data). If always-on is activated, your apps can connect and sync data in the background, unbeknownst to you. I got caught with it on my first phone bill, and it ended up costing me a good few hundred dollars. There are a few things you can do to help:
Settings > Accounts and Sync is your best friend. You can choose what accounts sync what data, and how often. The less you sync, the less data is used and the less time your radio spends transmitting (hopefully boosting your battery life a bit). You can also disable background syncing completely here, but that means you will have to manually sync your GMail, Facebook, Twitter etc.
As far as your battery life is concerned, under Settings > Location there are two options to 'Use wireless connections' and 'Use GPS satellites'. Having both of these ticked will use much more battery. Definitely untick 'use GPS satellites' and if you don't use any location-based widgets (like HTC weather) or services (Footprints etc), turn the other one off too. That should give you a bit more than ten hours
Let me know how you get on! Good luck!
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'Always-On' Data tells your phone to open a data connection whenever one is available in your area, not just whenever you need it ('On-Demand' Data). If always-on is activated, your apps can connect and sync data in the background, unbeknownst to you. I got caught with it on my first phone bill, and it ended up costing me a good few hundred dollars. There are a few things you can do to help:
Settings > Accounts and Sync is your best friend. You can choose what accounts sync what data, and how often. The less you sync, the less data is used and the less time your radio spends transmitting (hopefully boosting your battery life a bit). You can also disable background syncing completely here, but that means you will have to manually sync your GMail, Facebook, Twitter etc.
As far as your battery life is concerned, under Settings > Location there are two options to 'Use wireless connections' and 'Use GPS satellites'. Having both of these ticked will use much more battery. Definitely untick 'use GPS satellites' and if you don't use any location-based widgets (like HTC weather) or services (Footprints etc), turn the other one off too. That should give you a bit more than ten hours
Let me know how you get on! Good luck!
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I got kinda confused here. Your saying that settings -> Wireless & Networks ->Mobile Networks -> Uncheck Enable always-on mobile data
By turning it off you get less data consumption per month?
More battery life?
Any dissadvantage?
By your post I assume that if its uncheked then apps wont sync? right now i still receive my gmail and stuff.
100% correct. Turn it off and you'll have to sync your apps manually, but less data and more battery
If you're using email set up with push, this option has to remain on. Otherwise, after a certain amount of time (5 min on most htc's), the data connection is severed and your push will no longer work.
And yes, there is greater battery drain with it on, and higher data usage.
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Just curious if battery saving apps are worth it or is it better to manually turn mobile data, wifi, etc off? Cause those apps of course run a lot in the backgrounding checking if they can improve anything, so curious if it better to manually do those things sometimes?
Cause right now I have DU battery saver, but I don't see it doing a lot that I couldn't do myself.
So short, are those apps worth it or do they use more battery than they save?
Thanks in advance
I've tried a few but in the end I felt manually managing it was best for me. I anyway find myself making sure the automated tasks work, so if I'm putting in that effort I might as well just only do it manually.
I think setting automatic rules always has some problem or the other. For example, timed settings do not work for me because my daily timings are not the same everyday. Location based wifi is good to set, but doesn't always work. Data off when the screen is off also doesn't make sense for me because then messages or emails wont come or come at certain intervals instead of real-time.
One very useful thing I found though, was to use one of the many available apps to automatically switch my phone to 2G whenever its connected to my home or office wifi. That saves tremendous amounts of battery and hassle!
This is my opinion though, others probably have had different experiences...