[Q] Why was is necessary to root your Nexus S? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've been contemplating on rooting my Nexus S, since I've done so on my G2 and G1 since it was necessary since their stock roms were slow but I don't see anything wrong with the Nexus S at all. Also, I definitely think the unlock picture on a rooted Nexus S is ugly.
Anyways, post why it was necessary to root your Nexus S besides the fact that you're an android-fanatic
What do you use which needed root?

- Titanium Backup
- Flashing ROMs (Doesn't require root, but its a gateway toward flashing)
- Custom Kernels
Basically, I mess with my phone because stock is boring and not flashing/rooting your phone is well... BORING!
Exciten things up.

Let's not forget the amazing Chainfire 3D!

My first move is always rooting and flashing a stock deodex rom so I can theme it.
Also I use apps for security as well like droid wall, orbot, lbe privacy guard, my backup pro, lookout, which mostly require root.
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lapalways05 said:
I've been contemplating on rooting my Nexus S, since I've done so on my G2 and G1 since it was necessary since their stock roms were slow but I don't see anything wrong with the Nexus S at all. Also, I definitely think the unlock picture on a rooted Nexus S is ugly.
Anyways, post why it was necessary to root your Nexus S besides the fact that you're an android-fanatic
What do you use which needed root?
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I have to delete apk's Ill never use.

Voodoo
Bln (change kernel)
Atomic clock sync
Market enabler
Ahh, and flashing some roms when i'm bored...
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can't use ad free or mlb at bat on ns4g without root
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I have not found a compelling reason to root yet, either.
I rooted both my previous Galaxy S and Vibrant, but that was because they were performing poorly and Samsung is the worst at upgrading their [email protected] software.
But the Nexus S has been pretty stable and I've seen nothing to make me root and play with ROMs (and I am weary of getting back into the WM6 cycle of constantly flashing, hoping that the next build will be the one stable one....)
I have settled on MIUI.ADW.Launcher as my default (using Suave HD icons http://macthemes.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=16804800, which I actually like better than the MIUI ROM), so I really can't see a reason (yet) for going through the hassle of rooting and flashing with this one.

really thats what this whole community is based on, if you are not gonna root it, then you CANT do anything thats discussed here at XDA. I mean I dont even hesitate to root a phone as soon as I get it. Actually make sure I can root a device before I buy it

Yeah, I always think like that too, espcially with htc devices I love pure android and if i were to get any htc or custom skinned phones I would root to change rom but the nexus s non rooted is pretty stable and looking at the rom development in nexus s, majority of it is AOSP-based. but thanks for the replies guys! I think I'll stick to non-rooted until something cool pop ups that needs root or if i wanna further customize
ps: Man saying this, I feel like a traitor to xda and I shouldn't even be here lol
PS PS: one reason for me wanting to root the phone before g etting is was to get HD video but it's unfortunately a hardware problem. blah oh well

Voodoo sound and color
BLN
ext4 speed mod

You guys keep posting things that don't require root
I only recently rooted so I could take screen shots. However my bootloader has been unlocked since the day I got the phone
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Well, BLN, overclocking and the fact that I want to have full control of my device
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lapalways05 said:
I've been contemplating on rooting my Nexus S, since I've done so on my G2 and G1 since it was necessary since their stock roms were slow but I don't see anything wrong with the Nexus S at all. Also, I definitely think the unlock picture on a rooted Nexus S is ugly.
Anyways, post why it was necessary to root your Nexus S besides the fact that you're an android-fanatic
What do you use which needed root?
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I originally did it for BLN.
Just relock it when you are done - no unlock picture

I have a question for u why isnt it necessary lol.
But all in all it unleashes more fun for u and the phone. More roms more apps more battery more power. More jealousy from people that dont have one
Delete unwanted apps etc tweak stuff up
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well depending on network, it unlocks the wifi hotspot capability

I mean, I've rooted my phones before but the Nexus S has no problems with speed, its filled with only google apps no bloatware, it's pretty fast already, and I'm always on XDA to find more android development but I couldn't find a reason to root the phone so I just wanted to see what you guys specifically root it for

Same here i used to root my phones like g1 and vibrant. But i dont find a reason to do so now as everything i need already works.
Keeping it stock i can get the latest update directly from google asap

the primary reason was the addiction to flash. The will to try all the roms that comes out

My addiction that started with the og Droid of flashing something new to my phone just for the hell of it.
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Stock MT4G

After using about 20 different roms I discovered that that I like it the way it came. Although, I did root it to use any rooted only apps, lol.
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knotrkr said:
After using about 20 different roms I discovered that that I like it the way it came. Although, I did root it to use any rooted only apps, lol.
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Have you tried a Sense cleaned up (bloatware) ROM? In any case, you might want to use Titanium to at least freeze some of the bloatware apps. You should still be able to get the OTA 2.3 update if/when HTC/TMo finally gets around to it.
I am not sure if being rooted will prevent that.
root on stock ROM shouldnt prevent it. although you will probably lose root. good idea to wait to update and see what the devs say about any new update. losing root to a new update isnt cool because you never know how long it will take for some one to figure out how to root again.
I am with you. I have not tried nor want to try any roms. I really like the default rom as is. I came from the HD2 where I flashed so many different roms, I ended up staying with a version of the mytouch 4g. Then I went and bought a real mytouch 4g and love it. I also rooted to get rid of the crappy apps. No problem with keeping it as is. People will always try and talk you into flashing a custom, but to be honest this is the first time I never have had any bugs or issues that I had to live with until the "next update".
same here...no matter how many different ROMS I flash, I always end up going back to the stock MySense. I did have a great experience with Orange Sense tho, pure sense and blazing fast thanks to Faux
Totally with you guys, after flashing several roms, trying to get them to work properly, then ending up too frustrated to continue, went right back to stock rom. rooted and removed bloatware. now happy as can be.
Same deal here. I came from the HD2 running android as well with the MT4G build, then I just bought the real deal. Mainly for the wifi calling and the front camera for the video calling. I gave the HD2 to my daughter and for some reason just last week the touch screen stopped working,, for windows and android. So there sending me a replacement, it should be here sometime this week. Does any of you know if I can use HP3 to flash roms and android builds? cuz I did use HD2 and Now I can't find it but I did find HD3. I waS Just wondering if they did the same thing. but I'm glad to hear i'm not the only one who digs the stock sense. I thought I was the only one.. LOL.. although now that CM7 is officially out I may give it a look... but I'm sure as always i'll end up back with stock.. and hopefully we'll get the honeycomb upgrade or the 2.3 sooner or later..
I'm also happy with the Stock Sense Rom, so happy in fact that I haven't rooted yet lol. My last phone was a mytouch 3g, which I rooted a few months into owning it, because with that phone there were so many glitches and so much lag that you had to root it to get it to work decently. And I wound up flashing a bunch of sense roms lol. But with this phone, it pretty much works and does everything I need it to out of the box.
With that said, do you guys really think it's still worth it to root for the non-rom-flashing benefits? i.e. setcpu and removal of bloatware? For my needs, I don't really feel like I need to overclock the phone, but I like the idea of underclocking to save battery...also, while the bloatware apps are annoying, it's not like they have taken away any functionality of the phone...I know everyone here's MO is "ROOT ASAP" but it seems like it's a little more complicated than it was for the MT3G, and while I'm not an idiot, I'm not really a tech-whiz either lol. Just not sure if it's worth the trouble and risk if I don't want/need to flash different roms.
I ran stock for a month and used ADW Launcher EX (normal version does this also) in order to hide the bloatware from the app drawer. This phone has so much power that for me it was out of sight out of mind with bloatware. I would assume LPP and other home replacement apps would have similar functions.
I flashed around a bit after rooting but always came back to stock, but then I switched to Orange Glacier by Faux123. It's stock, just quicker and debloated with some system apps moved in case you want to remove them also. IMO it's a bit better, but I still haven't decided how life changing it is His kernels def are.
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sunsean said:
I'm also happy with the Stock Sense Rom, so happy in fact that I haven't rooted yet lol. My last phone was a mytouch 3g, which I rooted a few months into owning it, because with that phone there were so many glitches and so much lag that you had to root it to get it to work decently. And I wound up flashing a bunch of sense roms lol. But with this phone, it pretty much works and does everything I need it to out of the box.
With that said, do you guys really think it's still worth it to root for the non-rom-flashing benefits? i.e. setcpu and removal of bloatware? For my needs, I don't really feel like I need to overclock the phone, but I like the idea of underclocking to save battery...also, while the bloatware apps are annoying, it's not like they have taken away any functionality of the phone...I know everyone here's MO is "ROOT ASAP" but it seems like it's a little more complicated than it was for the MT3G, and while I'm not an idiot, I'm not really a tech-whiz either lol. Just not sure if it's worth the trouble and risk if I don't want/need to flash different roms.
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I waited around 10 days before I rooted my phone just to get a nice feel of how things ran. yes I would definitely root if I were you. if you dont want to uninstall the bloatware, you can just freeze them with titanium. setcpu with a custom kernel underclocking with screen off will improve battery life as well(only OC to play games or view videos)
hello guys, this is my first time using a android phone. I like the stock Rom but i hate how slow the phone is running. Is there a way for me to overclock the phone and get rid of the awful bloatware tmo put in this thing?
trance112 said:
hello guys, this is my first time using a android phone. I like the stock Rom but i hate how slow the phone is running. Is there a way for me to overclock the phone and get rid of the awful bloatware tmo put in this thing?
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Download ice or royal glacier.
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To root our not to root?

So I had a galaxy s phone and rooting it made a hugh performance improvement. How much better do you like your phone if rooted? Whats the best feature you like?
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I wouldn't like it if it wasn't...
Although I may not see a huge PERFORMANCE increase with root, my battery does, low volt kernels baby
And I couldn't make my own boot animations, I know... Dumb but I like it...
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I bought the thunderbolt Tuesday evening...it was rooted and alpha CM7 loaded before I went to bed that night...
Just looking at the size of an AOSP rom vs other roms...I always ask how can it not be a performance increase...then well custom kernels, voltage regulators, and all the other nifty awesome tools and tricks that can be used....
At this point I can't own a phone that isn't rooted and customized to my "own" specifications. Making something mine is a huge thing for me in general...
I rooted not for the performance increase (or havent used those features yet), but more to try out custom rom's and remove bloatware that came with the phone
Yea the bloat on this thing is crazy!
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I cant seem to own an unrooted android phone for the reasons below...
Titanium backup, creating full backups in recovery, wifi tether, low voltage kernels, debloat, customizing the rom, and just wanting to try the latest and greatest leaked roms for fun.
I got the phone on launch day and liked sense at first, but then after trying CM7 on the thunderbolt I realized how much I missed Vanilla Android on my OG Droid. Now it's my daily driver and I would have a hard time using the phone unrooted without the ability to tether, use CM7, or overclock. Not having bloatware is a big plus as well.
Rooting it was the first thing I did after I got the phone. I didn't get into flashing the ROMs until das bamf 1.4 release. Now I keep 3 ROMs in CWR; bamf 1.6.2 (my daily), bamf 2b5, CM7. I like the fact that the bloat is minimized and the phone lasts a lot longer than the stock. Ability to use wifi tether is a huge plus as well.
O Root, Root! wherefore art thou Root?
Deny thy father and refuse thy name...
Couldn't help it. Anyhow, root for sure. The quesiton shouldn't be "why should I root," but rather, "why shouldn't I root?" (To which the only two reasons I can give are that you void your warranty and could brick your phone.)
Rooted with an unlocked bootloader is the only way I like my device! Customization possibilities are then endless thanks to the wonderful developers here at xda and other prominent android community sites. I feel so strongly about a rootable device with an unlocked bootloader (either from the manu or completely hacked like the thunderbolt).
So, the features I like best are probably the ones that are being developed right now.

What has been your experience with rooting your Sensation?

I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?
I rooted my sensation just Cos I did the same to my old x10 mini, I found rooting it was easy following the guide on here and flashing new roms is easy too, all I can suggest is that you read the instructions, try different roms to see which one works for you and don't forget that rooting voids your warranty
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When flashing custom roms are you losing all installed apps each time and finding you need to restore via titanium? I ask because I've seen threads say you do and don't lose your installed apps and data.
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johnny0313x said:
I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?
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Heyya,
I'm pretty new here and my experience with android devices was 0 up to three weeks ago when i decided to buy the sensation. I then stumbled upon XDA dev forum and now i'm hooked .
I decided to root and flash a custom rom three days after getting the phone... as far as eye candy goes Sense is brilliant but the functionality is 0.
The whole process of installing clockwork, perm rooting and flashing a custom rom took exactly twenty minutes and was no hassle at all.
At the moment i run P3d Neon-No Sense and the phone is a whole lot better. Battery life is double, RAM consumption is 1/2 and overall the performance is great.
So... my advice... root and flash away!
Thanks jeryko that's the kinda thing I was looking to hear. The sensations touch screen is the only reason I'm Leary about voiding the warrenty with rooting. If you unroot the device can they still tell?
I love sense I think it integrates things nicely and visually (with the exception of a few minor things) and gives a way more polished premium feel to devices. However as stated above it does bog down the phone a bit...even with the dual core. HTC really should have added 1gb of ram I think. Overall though my phones not slow just sometimes a little stutter here and there.
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ive rooted my sensation, well i at least i did / was rooted before the update came out. to be honest i haven't seen any reason to reroot. i still have a unlocked boot loader but the urge to root and flash roms isnt really there for me yet. this is probably because i am happy with sense 3.0 and the phone doesnt lag for me at all after the latest update. the only real thing that will probably get me to root again is when a good aosp rom releases or CM7. i really miss having then bluetooth capabilities of a stock aosp rom
No problem. Well... the sensation has it's drawbacks but price/quality it's definitely worth the money.
About the warranty issue... can't really tell you... I've read on the forum that you can Switch back to stock rom and kernel and S-ON again but the procedure (for S-ON) is a bit risky and frankly i have no clue if after you go through all that there's any way of telling that the phone has been tampered with... you'll have to ask the older and wiser folks around here for a knowledgeable answer.
Root it, stop delaying the inevitable.
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johnny0313x said:
occasional glitchy things that happen with it
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And that's why I don't regret going s-off and flashing custom ROMs. Root just comes with the territory.
Funny thing, I went custom on my Sensation within the first week while I left my wife's stock. Fast forward three weeks later, I was pretty satisfied with the speed and stability on my phone. I pick up my wife's phone and unlock it to surf the net. First thing that happens? Random restart and back to the HTC splash screen. Really?? I'd totally forgotten about the random restarts and choppy home screen scrolling. Ended up s-offing that thing and flashing a custom ROM that same night. She hasn't complained about her phone since.
I'm so tempted....you guys are evil lol Seriously though the only thing holding me back is the warrenty being voided. I didn't care so much with my G2(that thing was the most reliable phone ever) but the sensation is still new and I'm skeptical about how long the hardware will keep up and all. My biggest complaint would be the volume on some things ...everything else works great though except an occasional lack of response until I lock and unlock the phone...which is rare.
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The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it
EddyOS said:
The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it
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Agreed....
I unlocked the bootloader as soon as I could and started loading custom ROMs. I've been running the P3D ROM (Sense version) for a few weeks now, and it's doubled my battery life plus it's faster. My brother has his Sensation still S-ON stock (latest OTA update) and we compared it side by side and we both agreed mine is noticeably faster. I also like the blue neon theme with that ROM.
Even that particular ROM aside, I've had generally better battery life with anything other than the stock ROM. That alone is enough reason to do it IMO.
Link to P3D ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206746
Ok I know that I am a noob to rooting and installing roms. Currently I am on my second one Android Revolution HD™ 3.0.3. Rooting it was the best thing I've done. i wish I would have gotten the balls to root years ago!
Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
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I am very happy with my rooted Sensation. My previous phone was a rooted Nexus One. I can say that rooting is a great way of customizing your phone to your liking.
gustav30 said:
Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
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Titanium batch, best app purchase for the crack flasher. I timed myself, 30 mins tops to go from one rom to another
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+1 for Titanium batch! A must for all heavy Flashers
We should have root access out of the box. Too much fun stuff, but impossible to find a ROM perfect for you. Your going to tweak something eventually
just got my sensation 4g still in box..first thing on to do list is "root it and boot it"
currently running HTC HD2 with ndt miui rom...love it but got to have that 4g

[Q] Really need to ask these questions before I go further

Okay, i'm new to the whole rooting thing and I think I get the basic concept and all of that, but is it beneficial for me?
- Right now i'm running Nova launcher and have it set up perfect for me. No problem with speed or any of that, so not an issue there,
- I have windows 8 so does this make the process of rooting any different? I hear it does in some cases and I don't want to be screwed if I get stuck
- The only reason I am even thinking about rooting is to just get a dang update on my phone. I'm tired of waiting for updates I feel will never come.
- I would need a ROM that I could count on without checking for updates religiously.
- Is rooting something for me? Or should I stick with Nova seeing that I get a satisfying experience with it. (I also hear a lot of ROM's ship with Nova anyway.)
- Is there any step by step tutorials with windows 8 complete with all of the files I will need? (Excluding ROM's of course. I would get those on my own)
If you haven't fully researched rooting or completely understand it I don't recommend it. Also, what's so bad about ics that makes you think jb will blow it away?
Don't take offense as that's not my intention. There are so many posts about people soft bricking their phone or worse mainly because they don't fully understand it or to impatient to wait. The only real reason I rooted was to remove bloatware. I'm still on 4.0.4 and not complaining a smidge
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Spastic909 said:
If you haven't fully researched rooting or completely understand it I don't recommend it. Also, what's so bad about ics that makes you think jb will blow it away?
Don't take offense as that's not my intention. There are so many posts about people soft bricking their phone or worse mainly because they don't fully understand it or to impatient to wait. The only real reason I rooted was to remove bloatware. I'm still on 4.0.4 and not complaining a smidge
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No offence taken at all. I just like the stock android so much which is why I wish I could get my hands on a nexus device, but unfortunately being a college student, I take what I can get.
And iv'e researched it as much as I could im just still confused with a couple things such as the Drivers some people have told me I need to get etc etc. I've watched flows videos over and over and I get HOW to do it, but was there anything done before in any way?
If you dig your setup with nova launcher id suggest sticking with that and wait till official ota. However if u still want to root, make sure its not a USB 3.0 connection as I've seen from another post doesn't seem to work.
Rooting is pretty easy as long as you don't skip steps. Unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash superuser, flash Rom after wiping everything but not before you make a nandroid backup of stock Rom and save it to storage externally, flash boot.img located within zip after Rom flash
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By the sound of it, you have no need for root. You are happy with your current setup and doesnt appear to be an 'advanced user' who messes around in the system all day.
My suggestion is to read up what root actually does, then decide if its something you need/want.
By the sound of your first post - no, you dont need root.
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If you are happy running Nova launcher on a sense kernel than just wait for ota.
By the way... Nova being used by a rom is no different than what you are doing now.
Now if you want the Nexus experience then by all means root. CyanogenMod is awesome on the One S and has everything working fine. I am using it and have the latest Android 4.2.2. CM gives us updates almost as quickly as the Nexus gets.
To the other poster mentioning why would one need jellybean.
Jellybean is on a whole new level compared to ICS. Much faster and smoother. Until you try it you will not understand how ICS is just not as good. Plus the Google Now and the rest of Google services are amazing on JB.
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I'm very familiar with jb for your information...
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Jellybean is on a whole new level compared to ICS. Much faster and smoother. Until you try it you will not understand how ICS is just not as good. Plus the Google Now and the rest of Google services are amazing on JB.
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If you are comparing stock ICS with stock JB, JB is terrible compared to ICS. AOSP JB is better than ICS though, on that I can agree.
I was referring to AOSP JB. I gave up on Sense a long time ago. The only thing I miss about sense kernel is the loudness of Beats Audio. There are sound mods available but none are as loud as Beats on stock.
I did try the EU update version of JB and I felt it was much smoother than ICS. Battery life was the negative on stock JB.
CM 10.1 has been incredible. CM will help me hold on to this phone a little longer until I decide between the One, rumored Moto X, or next Nexus.
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Why root a Nexus 5?

Hi guys,
Just got a Nexus 5, had previously had a Samsung Galaxy S3.
My S3 was rooted, mainly to get rid of carrier bloatware and later because I wanted the Android 4.2 camera with Photosphere (my carrier was stuck on 4.1 until a few months ago).
As time wore on my device had numerous problems ultimately I felt related to rooting, I could never find ROM's with at least one major glitch. I ended up on a stock ROM for most the time with the only root change was flashing the 4.2 camera for Photosphere. Rooting in general I found caused more headaches than it was worth.
Anyways, I just got the Nexus 5 and have no real intention to root it. Since it's devoid of carrier bloatware and it runs super fast and responsive, just wondering what the real credible benefits to rooting it are? (and voiding warranty in the process)??
I don't see a lot of bloatware on the device, it's going to get constant updates from Google (as opposed to devices depandant on a carrier), I don't really need to overclock or mess with kernals on an already fast device.
Am I missing something here?
Sianspheric said:
Hi guys,
Just got a Nexus 5, had previously had a Samsung Galaxy S3.
My S3 was rooted, mainly to get rid of carrier bloatware and later because I wanted the Android 4.2 camera with Photosphere (my carrier was stuck on 4.1 until a few months ago).
As time wore on my device had numerous problems ultimately I felt related to rooting, I could never find ROM's with at least one major glitch. I ended up on a stock ROM for most the time with the only root change was flashing the 4.2 camera for Photosphere. Rooting in general I found caused more headaches than it was worth.
Anyways, I just got the Nexus 5 and have no real intention to root it. Since it's devoid of carrier bloatware and it runs super fast and responsive, just wondering what the real credible benefits to rooting it are? (and voiding warranty in the process)??
I don't see a lot of bloatware on the device, it's going to get constant updates from Google (as opposed to devices depandant on a carrier), I don't really need to overclock or mess with kernals on an already fast device.
Am I missing something here?
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Some people prefer different launchers or ROMs or to have access to certain functions (e.g. full backup) that require root. I've had my N5 for a month and haven't felt the need for it, so I'm still stock, locked, unrooted.
Xposed for me.
Most of the mods from Custom ROMs with the OTA updates from Google
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Xposed framework, Adaway, Lmt launcher, AppOps, AutomateIt Pro... Basicly everything to take control over your device.
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So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
Sianspheric said:
So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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I wouldn't call them minor tweaks at all. There is an extremely wide variety of things that require your phone to be rooted. Often times an app will have limited functionality without root.
Please note that rooting your phone has nothing to do with using a custom rom. (You can in fact have a custom rom that is not rooted) Your problems with your prior phone were not in any way as a result of rooting the phone. If you had problems with the rom (sometimes custom roms have broken components) that has nothing to do with having root access.
At this point, I'd be willing to bet the most common usage of the phone at this point (amongst users of this site) are those who are rooted, but still using the stock rom. More and more users are migrating to the custom roms, but this is because rom development takes a bit of time with major releases.
AdAway is the main reason for me - I HATE adverts with a passion!
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Sianspheric said:
So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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what you consider "minor tweaks", might be a big deal for someone else. Tastes differ.
i root because of 1 main reason, i paid for the device and i believe i should be able to have full control over it.
Another thing is, whatever i do with my phone, i always know what i'm doing and why i'm doing it, so the odds of screwing something up are very little. In case i do need to claim warranty, i know how to set everything back.
Sianspheric said:
So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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Ehm...why did you buy a nexus? Actually i don't even know what you are doing on xda. No offense but... Sound more like an iPhone kind a guy...
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It's up to you whether to root or not. Whatever problems you had with your previous device, it wasn't due to rooting persay, but rather what you did with root access. Rooting doesn't change anything, it just gives you administrative access to the operating system. Running un-rooted is analogous to accessing your desktop PC through a guest account. Rooting your Android device gives you full access like you have on your desktop as as an administrator.
He just wants to know the benefits. No need to harp on him for not wanting to root. If anything Nexus 5 has less reasons to be rooted then OEM phones.
bblzd said:
He just wants to know the benefits. No need to harp on him for not wanting to root. If anything Nexus 5 has less reasons to be rooted then OEM phones.
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Maybe someday he'll want to tether.
AT LEAST UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER
Fastboot OEM Unlock
That easy, it'll erase EVERYTHING. So if you do it now you won't lose much. Do it later when you want to root (like my mother and myself) you'll have to unlock and lose everything.
If you ever need you return it just lock it again it's easy. And you won't lose ANYTHING for relocking it.
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Two words....
Franco kernel
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Titanium back up because I'm too lazy to reinstall all of my apps on my previous device.
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Not much reason to if your main use is as a "daily driver".
Mine is rooted mainly due to needing to use it for development work related to my job, but ad blocking and several xposed modules would require root anyways. That and I just can't help but mess with stuff like CPU frequency/voltage settings, etc.
Ben36 said:
Two words....
Franco kernel
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I second this.
I was previously on Galaxy S2 rooted. I'd tested some custom roms like chamaleon, cm, but at last, what i realized that I needed wasn't a lot of new features i only wanted a good battery performance and a fc and random reboots free phone.
So I returned to stock roms with the more stock-like rooted kernel with Xposed and some additions. At last I got a good battery performance to keep the phone full day without charging.
Now that my N5 is with me for about 6 or 7 weeks I don't need rooting, modding ... nothing. The performance for my daily use is about 30 hours between charges with almost 3 hours with screen on.
That is all I need!
And for backups (i've payed for titanium backup app for my S2) now I use ADB from command line and it's enought for me
Also, the Nexus in this conditions hasn't hanged yet.
It spent more than 350 hours until I decided to change to Dart and I had to restart the phone. this is much better than my old S2 that needed two or three weekly reboots even with stock rom.
So, i'm very happy with my non-rooted N5 but if I need to root it in the near future it will be not a problem to me doing it.
I use it for Titanium Backup myself, whose backups I periodically have uploaded to Box.com. Obviously it's there for when I want to change phone and want to restore app data, especially for game saves, but you also never know if your phone is going to malfunction and you have to wipe or get lost/stolen. I think it's pretty useful to have an app that automatically takes care of backing up your data for you.
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http://lifehacker.com/top-10-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone-1079161983
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