I have a rooted samsung Fascinate. I want to know if there is any app or anything that I can do to get it to recieve 4g from verizion. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. I only ask because my town has 4g, but I only ever have 1-2 bars of 3g data service at any time. So if anybody knows if I can get 4g, or any way to get a better 3g signal.
Addt info: It is not any problem with my phone, most people in my town have terrible verizon 3g ever since they added 4g
nope its a radio and internal drivers thing.
No, Verizon 4G or LTE requires completely different hardware for the radio inside. The reason your service is suffering from the advent of 4G is due to Verizon converting existing 3G sites to 4G.
When this is done, 3G signal will depricate as there will be less 3G radios serving your zone.
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Since I can't get 4g any suggestions on how to get better 3g
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if your phone can do manual prl updates look through the threads in my sig it might help you a lot
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i have a few question. i just bought my sensation. i would like to know if tmobile is going to charge extra for 4g usage conserding im using a 3g sim card. i read somewhere that 4g phones have different plans.
2nd is tethering free on the sensation and if not is there a way to make free (rooting or something)
3rd is there a way to disable 4g to improve battery
ariel123 said:
i have a few question. i just bought my sensation. i would like to know if tmobile is going to charge extra for 4g usage conserding im using a 3g sim card. i read somewhere that 4g phones have different plans.
2nd is tethering free on the sensation and if not is there a way to make free (rooting or something)
3rd is there a way to disable 4g to improve battery
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You should be able to stick with your current plan. That's what they did for me, and many other posters.
Are you actually seeing a 3G icon? What UL/DL speeds are you getting?
There's currently no way to disable 4G and force 3G. You can disable WCDMA, but that will force 2G only.
Tmobile's 4G is actually just 3G plus great marketing. You can disable 3G to help your battery but then you'd be down to just EDGE.
I am getting 4g service I was just wondering wether there was a 4g sim cand or something that would improve the spewed cause honestly its only a little faster. Also for some reason my Yahoo mail won't sync any sugggestions. And btw I'm loving this phoon coming from the hd7
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Tmobile's 4G is actually just 3G plus great marketing. You can disable 3G to help your battery but then you'd be down to just EDGE.
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So, to clarify, are you saying there's no protocol difference between TMO's 3G and "4G"? Is the TMO 4G just an upgrade in speed of the same 3G data connection? Since it seems there are 4G SIMs, and the IMEI needs to be registered as 4G, and the phone needs special HW and SW for 4G, I was under the impression that TMO's 4G is actually a different protocol.
I understand TMO's 4G does not meet the speed definition of true 4G, but it could still be using a separate data format and protocol than 3G.
On my phone so I really can't provide all the links and stuff but tmobile's
4G is hspa+ which is 3G tech. You can research more about it if you want.
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Since purchasing my phone almost 2 weeks ago I have never gotten 3g. I have replaced my sim and also upgraded data. I have one day left to return and I'm wondering if you guys too are having this issue. Or perhaps is it a tower/radio issue?
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It won't ever show 3g
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Yeah i saw the same thing. I think it's has a lot to do with TMO's 4G not actually being a different technology than it's 3G. So in most cases if you have 3G you also have 4G. Are there any areas where you know that TMO's HSPA+ network doesn't have coverage but the normal 3G coverage does? I'd be interested in that. I couldn't test in my area because the 3G coverage is the exact same as the 4G so the indicator would only change if I entered an edge only area.
The G2 only displays an H which can either be 3G or 4G but it's not differentiated on the phone. So I think it's just because of TMO's network not being a separate technology that requires a different radio. So the phone won't go from 4G to 3G to Edge. It goes straight to 2G because 3g and 4G is the same in technology. Only difference is speed and that that's with any network where you have different speeds in different places.
The 4G is a souped up version of their 3G so you won't see 3G ever AFAIK.
Thought i was the only one that noticed
As a t-mob tech rep I can confirm that this is true. The phone will either display 2 or 4. It was even in the brief training we received. No need to return it
Get Mobile Signal Widget if you want to see it go between 3G(UMTS) or H(HSPA+)
It will not show 3G/4G because it would flip between the two too much.
Yesterday I saw it just said "G". Phone was slow as ****. I love this thing.
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The 4G is a souped up version of their 3G so you won't see 3G ever AFAIK.
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It's the same on the G2x that I had briefly.
good to know cause im in love with my phone and didnt wanna chance a exchange! its really not enough good about this phone on here but for any of you on the edge its a great phone coming from a hd2 which was also the SH!T !!
Just a little extra info on this. EVERY 3G cell site in T-Mobile's network is HSPA capable so whenever you are on a 3G site your have HSPA access BUT not every site is HSPA+ (4G speeds). With that said, your phone does not know the difference so even if we wanted an icon to show the difference we couldn't have it. There is one more mode and that is UMTS. This only shows when your phone is idle and not doing data (not very often). It does NOT mean your don't have HSPA access on that site, it just means your phone is not currently doing data. So, we could have a 3G icon for when your idle but your phone would be constantly switching from 3G icon to 4G or H (whichever you have) and that would be annoying. Hope this helps.
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There is one more mode and that is UMTS. This only shows when your phone is idle and not doing data (not very often). It does NOT mean your don't have HSPA access on that site, it just means your phone is not currently doing data. So, we could have a 3G icon for when your idle but your phone would be constantly switching from 3G icon to 4G or H (whichever you have) and that would be annoying. Hope this helps.
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That's what it did for the HD2 & it let me know when I was actually pulling down data, just look for 3G or the H
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That's what it did for the HD2 & it let me know when I was actually pulling down data, just look for 3G or the H
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You will still know with the data activity arrows.
setzer715 said:
You will still know with the data activity arrows.
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On the Sensation yes, HD2 running WM though it was about the only way to know
Its a lie. It just says 4G instead of 3G. Never 3G. Its a ploy to make you believe they have 4G everywhere.
I have an unbranded Asian Sensation and it shows 3G once and a while. There is this one area I notice it switches from the H(4G) to 3G. I know TMO changed the H icon with a 4G one so maybe they removed the 3G one show it always shows 4G even if on 3G??
Ive seen it switch to 3g and its like not having internet. Speeds around 50-100 kbps . A friend with mt4g confirmed.
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~~Tito~~ said:
Its a lie. It just says 4G instead of 3G. Never 3G. Its a ploy to make you believe they have 4G everywhere.
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Tito, long time no see!
LOL, true that t-Mob is trying to brainwash the XDA gang
DeezNotes said:
Yesterday I saw it just said "G". Phone was slow as ****. I love this thing.
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You were on a regular GSM connection, those are old and slow. Not your phones fault, it was basically trying to use data over a rotary phone.
Is your device from tmobile?
So on my phone It says 3G at the top. Sometimes. It says H. But I have miui Tom currently and probably forever? Most of the time when I wana download something from the market I have to pull down the drop down menu and turn off the data icon and turn it back on to refresh the data. Wait for a few seconds and let it work again. I have no problems texting and receiving them. Or browsing the internet. But for the market I'm having to refresh the data. Wondering if there is anything I could do
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the lack of an h or 4g is just indicating that you dont have a hspa connection which has more to do with your area than your phone. the infuse is a 3g device but t-mo started advertising the hspa+ as 4g and att followed. it still operates on the same network and technology as 3g but is faster. 4g is lte (which the infuse doesn't have.) or wimax i guess but that is crappy sprint 4g that is not faster than att 3g and is only deserving of the 4g title because it is literally there 4th generation data network, not because it is actually comperable.
in other countries h and h+ are refered to as 3.5g and/or 3g+ because it is not truely a new generation of network, just 3g made faster.
the market problem is probably do to it being a i9000 port. i dont know what the nature of the bug is but it shows on the i9000 roms and i havent run an aosp rom so i dont know if it is normal for miui or not.
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the lack of an h or 4g is just indicating that you dont have a hspa connection which has more to do with your area than your phone. the infuse is a 3g device but t-mo started advertising the hspa+ as 4g and att followed. it still operates on the same network and technology as 3g but is faster. 4g is lte (which the infuse doesn't have.) or wimax i guess but that is crappy sprint 4g that is not faster than att 3g and is only deserving of the 4g title because it is literally there 4th generation data network, not because it is actually comperable.
in other countries h and h+ are refered to as 3.5g and/or 3g+ because it is not truely a new generation of network, just 3g made faster.
the market problem is probably do to it being a i9000 port. i dont know what the nature of the bug is but it shows on the i9000 roms and i havent run an aosp rom so i dont know if it is normal for miui or not.
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Ohh OK. So 4G doesn't mean 4G speeds. It means 4th generation. As in new. I always thought 4G meant speed 4 ghz or something of high speed data. Something to do with speed. Now that I think of it. G stands for Generation. Anyway thanks
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technokid said:
Ohh OK. So 4G doesn't mean 4G speeds. It means 4th generation. As in new. I always thought 4G meant speed 4 ghz or something of high speed data. Something to do with speed. Now that I think of it. G stands for Generation. Anyway thanks
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The speeds do get faster as the generations progresses, but actual 4g speeds were supposed to be 100mb lol that failed haha. Anyway the market problem happens to me too. If you search apns in CM7 or the MIUI forum there is a fix. I applied it before, and it worked. I am just too lazy to do it again because for me it is not that big of a pain lol.
You won't always have 4G speeds. It's more like 3G+ lol. HSPA+. Get it? Lol if you want 4G speeds for LTE
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Seriously? Another dumb post about phones not getting 4g. Some 4g phones have h and some have 3g icons. Read other threads and maybe you will learn something for once in your life.
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The speeds do get faster as the generations progresses, but actual 4g speeds were supposed to be 100mb lol that failed haha. Anyway the market problem happens to me too. If you search apns in CM7 or the MIUI forum there is a fix. I applied it before, and it worked. I am just too lazy to do it again because for me it is not that big of a pain lol.
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Thanks I'll look That uhp
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I heard somewhere that MIUI doesn't support 4G the same as the stock ROM. When I used MIUI I got slower speeds than stock. Not significantly slower, but "meh" speeds. Otherwise there isn't much of a difference, it only switched to actual "4G" when you're downloading something anyway..
I just got 4G LTE turned on in my area and I can't seem to get 4G to toggle on.. It's only showing a 3G signal. I tried using a 4G toggle app using device info to change it to LTE only, but no dice. I'm sitting next to my friend with a 4G signal, so I know it should work. Can anyone offer any assistance?
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Pretty much in the same situation here except my area has had 4G for months now. I've personally tested a Razr and a Bionic in multiple locations nearby with fantastic speeds and was pretty excited to have LTE on my new phone but haven't been able to hold onto a 4G signal for more than a minute or two.
Since this is my first 4G phone it's been recommended that I call Verizon and make sure my account is setup correctly for it. If that doesn't work, the main Verizon store in my area has full LTE coverage so I'll bring it there this weekend and try to swap out with a new phone.
Hello, a friend of mine of selling a mint Blaze at a great price. Phone is unlocked and I have service with At&t. However, when I insert the sim only get Edge. Is there any way to flash At&t radios to the blaze? I did search before opening a new thread,,, but wasn´t able to get the info I need.
Any help would be very appreciated!
Thanks!
Nope...edge only
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Are you sure? my wife uses the Tmobile s3 with Att and gets 3g. could be this phone runs different frequency's?
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He's wrong. It'll run on their H+ network, but that's all. However ATT's H+ mind you is very congested in a lot of places (NYC especially), but it will run.
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Are you sure? my wife uses the Tmobile s3 with Att and gets 3g. could be this phone runs different frequency's?
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It has multiple bands right?
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He's wrong. It'll run on their H+ network, but that's all. However ATT's H+ mind you is very congested in a lot of places (NYC especially), but it will run.
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So, At&t adopted hspa for T-Mobile
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Your right its really bad in NYC.
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Why are you not using T-Mo? Bad in brooklyn?
Should be able to get hspa+ flash a at&t skyrocket radio fix your apn,
I know it works when using T-Mobile on at&t phones I just flashed T-Mobile radios fixed apn got hspa+ speeds, should work vice versa
Edit: heres some at&t radio's that can be flashed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2270071
I have a Blaze running on NET10 using the AT&T sim card. I can achieve H+ with it, and from time to time it shows me 3G then goes to H+ real quick.
I am able to get (depending on where I am here in Central Indiana) 1-2Mbps with H+ and in other areas I get 12Mbps with H+. Here at the house I show H+ with 3 bars right now and get 1.75Mbps down and 0.42Mbps with a ping of 148ms to a speed test site just 16 miles up the road.
I do have to say it is much better then Tmobile here, I was lucky to get 0.17kbps either way on Edge.
I can tell you that it will help you if you go into your settings and select mobile networks then mobile operators and set yourself to AT&T Network only, let me know if this helps any, it did for me. It has kept me from trying to hit Tmobile towers since I am on NET10 which uses both tmobile and att.